Iracing did scan and release the Chicago street course layout with coordination from nascar like a year before it was announced irl. It's not unprecedented to try and build hype with a sim, and I agree that it should happen more.
That 90° right-hander leading into the not-quite-straight high speed section, capped off by another hard right is *_incredibly_* reminiscent of the Adelaide street circuit; that part is a big reason why Adelaide is one of my favourite tracks to drive in simulators (I'll admit hometown bias, but it _is_ still a super fun drive). Can't wait to have a go at the Arlington course myself!
Looks pretty good. Nice width for a lot of the layout, variety of surfaces, some smooth & some bumps, actually some elevation change. We aren't truly going to know until there's cars on track running in anger, but, thus far, looks pretty good by street course standards.
I'm SO old I drove the actual Long Beach GP course back in the 1980's-- certainly well before it would be closed off to regular traffic, and certainly well within the speed limit, but at least I could get SOME idea what it would look like from behind the wheel.
You're welcome.... jkjk wasn't me. But with TMS going away, and this coarse coming to the Dallas area, I am super stoked to have Indycar back in my neck of the woods. I wish it was TMS, but I will take what I can get short of going to Alabama every year.
At least the good news, this street course will actually will be good and produce some pretty decent racing. The only complaint I will say with this track is that pit exit. I kinda don’t get why we can’t at least get something like Interlagos for example where ya exit the pit and don’t blend out til the straight after the chicane. Idk if it’s cause of where it’s placed and has no room or what, but definitely can make that better. Also the people that did this track mod r really good. They did the current Downtown Detroit circuit and Nashville as well and they’re really nicely detailed. Which now that ik there’s a version of the Arlington Street Course for AC, imma have to play around with it to see how cars of other motorsports race this track like I did with the Vegas F1 circuit. Especially sports cars cause I’m a major sports car racing fan.
I saw a version of the track map where instead of the incredibly slow double hairpin before the Sochi section, it was left-right that connected the straight and the Sochi section. I think I'd prefer that to what it is now. Also, that pit land is going to be a problem. It would almost be better to have it walled off and rejoin the track after turn 3. Starts and restarts will also be a mess
An oval would be better. Texas was a success and they are moving it to appease the billionaires. Us fans filled up Texas year after year and this is our reward. Unless indycar goes to an all oval schedule, the series will not exist in 5 years. Ovals bring in the money and there’s no debate.
@@thebigguy5590How can you make an All-Oval series when NASCAR owns most of the ones that can safely host Indycar races and they aren’t going to play ball with anybody else?
@@Kingofweasles tell them you are going there and deal with it. Force the issue. Indycar just doesn’t try because it focuses on the billionaire club instead of the fans. Or here’s an idea: build your own ovals or go to all the current ovals multiple times per year. The fans want ovals not parking lots. This isn’t Formula E!!!!
Every year fewer fans were showing up at TMS for all events on property asphalt and dirt cars and even flat tracks so I guess the area is not supporting anything there so you have to make a change like it or not
@@jimhaines8370TWS is not the same track as TMS, TWS was a track in college station that was slowly dying for the last 30 years until they finally demolished it to make way for housing
Turn 2 has got to change for sure, nothing like merging onto the highway in rush hour traffic in dallas. With a ton of traffic I think 4-5-6 could be a lot more interesting
This isn't the first video i've seen of this mod, but getting a better idea of the potential speed of the course has me feeling even better about it than I was. I was thinking a 1:33 should be possible, and you did that, and then a 1:32 as well. I'll admit to not having been to a street circuit before, but I've been to a few ovals and a number of road courses. (God I love Road America and Mid Ohio, and a handful of others have been very nice to view at, too.) I can't see well enough for the "seeing the whole track from one spot" aspect to be a viable selling point. I also don't see the appeal of being stuck in one spot, and likely not having ready access to shade. I prefer road racing, but going back to an earlier Texas video, I wouldn't go to a road race in Texas in August, or probably at least the 1st half of September, anyway. It's just too damn hot and humid to not be miserable. (I'm from the largest ciry that's fully within Kansas, btw, so Dallas and Austin are simple enough. Just take I-35 south.) I also think a notable part of the perception problem is just the oval saturation you get with NASCAR. After all of that, you kind of want something different here and there. And in any case, I'll need to rewatch TMS 2023 and the recent Nashville SS event, because I just don't recall a lot of specifics from either one. Conversely, there are definitely plenty of iconic visuals there in downtown Nashville. And yeah, the backstretch here reminds me of Sao Paulo, and maybe a few other things. Hopefully, they do the Start and Restarts on the backstretch, just to have more room. As for the Pit Lane, I don't think it'll be awful. There won't be a massive speed differential. Perhaps they can do a little banking in that tighter section. As it was, you were getting to or a bit above 100 mph there in the middle of Turn 6, so that's not too bad. So I feel pretty safe in saying you've got a 130-mph straight, a 150-mph straight, 2 160-mph straights, and a 190-mph "straight". That ain't bad, and I think those figures could be a bit conservative in some instances. And with the 90s not being real slow, that'll reduce the accordion effect and field spread.
Turns 1-3 are worse than I expected, turn 2 especially and that start/finish straight is comically short. I hadn’t even anticipated the pit exit being so sketchy. Imagine starting a quick lap in qualy and two corners in you have to back off because someone has come out of the pits 🙄 As suspected turns 5 and 6 are absolutely dreadful. Bad for drivers but at least it will provide no passing opportunity… That whole section stinks of ‘this event is for corporate guests first and IndyCar fans second’. The track from turn 8 to the end though is pretty good for a street track - not embarrassingly narrow, good corner profiles, some elevation changes. They just need to sort out the rest of it!
I agree. They should still be at the oval. It was a huge success and Indycar is intentionally sticking it to the fans again. It’s like they purposely don’t want any fans. First a terrible TV deal and now a parking lot 🤦♂️
kudos to the modders but that track looks absolutely terrible. Expected Mickey Mouse section by the stadium and the rest is as uninspired as it gets. And really don't understand what they were thinking with the pit exit (assuming it's accurate like that).
It doesn’t matter if the Arlington GP is a smashing success, the series should be at the Texas Motor Speedway. Even if the oval loses money, the oval is more important. Get rid of all successful road and street courses and replace them with ovals no matter what.
Another unnecessary street course. I'm open to it and willing to give it a chance. Just wish the sport would listen to what the fans want. It's not game over because Milwaukee came back. They got a Thermal Dud points race and this. The least they could do is give the fans something they want to even the score.
Iracing did scan and release the Chicago street course layout with coordination from nascar like a year before it was announced irl. It's not unprecedented to try and build hype with a sim, and I agree that it should happen more.
That 90° right-hander leading into the not-quite-straight high speed section, capped off by another hard right is *_incredibly_* reminiscent of the Adelaide street circuit; that part is a big reason why Adelaide is one of my favourite tracks to drive in simulators (I'll admit hometown bias, but it _is_ still a super fun drive). Can't wait to have a go at the Arlington course myself!
Looks pretty good. Nice width for a lot of the layout, variety of surfaces, some smooth & some bumps, actually some elevation change. We aren't truly going to know until there's cars on track running in anger, but, thus far, looks pretty good by street course standards.
2:54-3:30 I 1000% agree, just wish we had an official IndyCar game they could add the circuit on
And one made by an _actual_ studio, not... Whatever the hell Motorsport Games is trying to be.
I'm SO old I drove the actual Long Beach GP course back in the 1980's-- certainly well before it would be closed off to regular traffic, and certainly well within the speed limit, but at least I could get SOME idea what it would look like from behind the wheel.
Dammit, I thought they were going to open the track to the public or something. This makes more sense, kudos to everyone who put it together.
One would hope that they start the race on the back stretch like they do at Mid-Ohio.
You're welcome.... jkjk wasn't me. But with TMS going away, and this coarse coming to the Dallas area, I am super stoked to have Indycar back in my neck of the woods. I wish it was TMS, but I will take what I can get short of going to Alabama every year.
What’s a coarse?
At least the good news, this street course will actually will be good and produce some pretty decent racing. The only complaint I will say with this track is that pit exit. I kinda don’t get why we can’t at least get something like Interlagos for example where ya exit the pit and don’t blend out til the straight after the chicane. Idk if it’s cause of where it’s placed and has no room or what, but definitely can make that better.
Also the people that did this track mod r really good. They did the current Downtown Detroit circuit and Nashville as well and they’re really nicely detailed. Which now that ik there’s a version of the Arlington Street Course for AC, imma have to play around with it to see how cars of other motorsports race this track like I did with the Vegas F1 circuit. Especially sports cars cause I’m a major sports car racing fan.
Tbh its not too bad, the important thing is it feels like an Indycar street course
We need to run 22 ovals a year. Road and street courses are proven failures.
@@thebigguy5590 nah bruh, Not everyone's cup of tea. I find it boring and needless personally.
I saw a version of the track map where instead of the incredibly slow double hairpin before the Sochi section, it was left-right that connected the straight and the Sochi section. I think I'd prefer that to what it is now. Also, that pit land is going to be a problem. It would almost be better to have it walled off and rejoin the track after turn 3.
Starts and restarts will also be a mess
Where did you see that alternative layout? I’m intrigued now…
Driving the DP-01?! You're my hero!
Best indycar/champcar ever made 👌
This looks like a really nice track. I like that its bigger than all the permanent road courses other than Road America and Thermal.
An oval would be better. Texas was a success and they are moving it to appease the billionaires. Us fans filled up Texas year after year and this is our reward. Unless indycar goes to an all oval schedule, the series will not exist in 5 years. Ovals bring in the money and there’s no debate.
@@thebigguy5590How can you make an All-Oval series when NASCAR owns most of the ones that can safely host Indycar races and they aren’t going to play ball with anybody else?
@@thebigguy5590 You're so wrong about everything 😆😆
@@Kingofweasles tell them you are going there and deal with it. Force the issue. Indycar just doesn’t try because it focuses on the billionaire club instead of the fans. Or here’s an idea: build your own ovals or go to all the current ovals multiple times per year. The fans want ovals not parking lots. This isn’t Formula E!!!!
@@kylegoodman5196 nope. The fans have spoken and will not support Arlington. We support every oval and they are taken from us.
Nice late brake move there!
Incredibly cool! Nice pass at the end
Whos up for some more David Land gaming content🙌
This feels very much like a Toronto
@@codileger4876 not even close.
You’ve never watched a race at Toronto.
Instead of texas world speedway, we got JerryWorld speedway 😭
Every year fewer fans were showing up at TMS for all events on property asphalt and dirt cars and even flat tracks so I guess the area is not supporting anything there so you have to make a change like it or not
@@jimhaines8370TWS is not the same track as TMS, TWS was a track in college station that was slowly dying for the last 30 years until they finally demolished it to make way for housing
@@jimhaines8370 doesn’t matter. We need to be at only ovals no matter what. Who cares if a race makes money or not. The internet community has spoken.
TWS is defunct. It closed in 2017.
Texas world speedway is now a planned neighborhood
Turn 2 has got to change for sure, nothing like merging onto the highway in rush hour traffic in dallas. With a ton of traffic I think 4-5-6 could be a lot more interesting
This isn't the first video i've seen of this mod, but getting a better idea of the potential speed of the course has me feeling even better about it than I was.
I was thinking a 1:33 should be possible, and you did that, and then a 1:32 as well.
I'll admit to not having been to a street circuit before, but I've been to a few ovals and a number of road courses. (God I love Road America and Mid Ohio, and a handful of others have been very nice to view at, too.)
I can't see well enough for the "seeing the whole track from one spot" aspect to be a viable selling point. I also don't see the appeal of being stuck in one spot, and likely not having ready access to shade.
I prefer road racing, but going back to an earlier Texas video, I wouldn't go to a road race in Texas in August, or probably at least the 1st half of September, anyway. It's just too damn hot and humid to not be miserable. (I'm from the largest ciry that's fully within Kansas, btw, so Dallas and Austin are simple enough. Just take I-35 south.)
I also think a notable part of the perception problem is just the oval saturation you get with NASCAR. After all of that, you kind of want something different here and there.
And in any case, I'll need to rewatch TMS 2023 and the recent Nashville SS event, because I just don't recall a lot of specifics from either one. Conversely, there are definitely plenty of iconic visuals there in downtown Nashville.
And yeah, the backstretch here reminds me of Sao Paulo, and maybe a few other things.
Hopefully, they do the Start and Restarts on the backstretch, just to have more room.
As for the Pit Lane, I don't think it'll be awful. There won't be a massive speed differential.
Perhaps they can do a little banking in that tighter section. As it was, you were getting to or a bit above 100 mph there in the middle of Turn 6, so that's not too bad.
So I feel pretty safe in saying you've got a 130-mph straight, a 150-mph straight, 2 160-mph straights, and a 190-mph "straight". That ain't bad, and I think those figures could be a bit conservative in some instances.
And with the 90s not being real slow, that'll reduce the accordion effect and field spread.
Impressive someone was able to have that track done that quickly. Car looked to have a fair bit of understeer 😀.
Here I was, in Arlington Texas, thinking they blocked off the roads to show off. I’m incredibly bright.
Just me? Or did that CHAMP CAR just crush it!!!
Looks great. Going to be an excellent race weekend.
Maybe it's just the environment in AC playing tricks, but this kinda reminds me of Toyko R246 from Gran Turismo??
Great idea releasing content with the announcement of a new track but that's never going to happen because Mark miles lives in the year 2000.
Turns 1-3 are worse than I expected, turn 2 especially and that start/finish straight is comically short. I hadn’t even anticipated the pit exit being so sketchy. Imagine starting a quick lap in qualy and two corners in you have to back off because someone has come out of the pits 🙄
As suspected turns 5 and 6 are absolutely dreadful. Bad for drivers but at least it will provide no passing opportunity… That whole section stinks of ‘this event is for corporate guests first and IndyCar fans second’.
The track from turn 8 to the end though is pretty good for a street track - not embarrassingly narrow, good corner profiles, some elevation changes. They just need to sort out the rest of it!
Isn’t it the new street circuit?
Awesome !
I imagine the circuit will not be this bumpy irl
It will be worse unless Jerra' pays to repave everything (especially the concrete public roads!)
I actually like the track 😊
First sector looks awful but other than that it's great
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What do you think about Hailie Deegan go to INDY NXT
Plenty of money to be made creating these games I’d imagine 😂😂
Even more proof we need to ditch the hideous aeroscreen. Give me one example where it’s made any difference?
Is this a joke? 😂
great, another parking lot race
5 turns of 14 take place in a parking lot.
I agree. They should still be at the oval. It was a huge success and Indycar is intentionally sticking it to the fans again. It’s like they purposely don’t want any fans. First a terrible TV deal and now a parking lot 🤦♂️
All of the variety in this track, and you're going to pretend like it's "just a parking lot race"🤣
@@RyTrapp0 the entire track is a parking lot. They should make the layout lead to Texas Motor Speedway.
kudos to the modders but that track looks absolutely terrible. Expected Mickey Mouse section by the stadium and the rest is as uninspired as it gets. And really don't understand what they were thinking with the pit exit (assuming it's accurate like that).
I will be shocked if we get through the inaugural race without a red flag.
I know. There has never been a red flag at any oval. Another reason TMS is superior.
@@thebigguy5590 Hmm, I seem to remember SEVERAL red flags at IMS ... and that's an oval, right?
@@JonDoe-ln6nl I don’t
@@thebigguy5590 2003,2016??
But it's not TMS 😭....
I know. Texas was almost a sellout and Indycar took it from us anyway.
@@thebigguy5590 "Almost a sellout"?! Wow. Pass the dutchie, dude!
It doesn’t matter if the Arlington GP is a smashing success, the series should be at the Texas Motor Speedway. Even if the oval loses money, the oval is more important. Get rid of all successful road and street courses and replace them with ovals no matter what.
Another unnecessary street course. I'm open to it and willing to give it a chance. Just wish the sport would listen to what the fans want. It's not game over because Milwaukee came back. They got a Thermal Dud points race and this. The least they could do is give the fans something they want to even the score.
I agree! But the sport needs to advertise their current ovals better and fans need to show up tho
There's enough ovals for now.
@@kylegoodman5196Nascar adding more roadcources to engage with foreign fans.
I say go back to Pocono and Michigan and Kansas
@ethantaube2512 Michigan has PJ1 and Pocono needs major safety upgrades after the Wickens incident.