It would have been interesting to see what they would have been if the lead singer wasn't such a downer. As I understand it, Marr would write the instrumental then Moz would generally add the melancholy lyrics, even if was an upbeat tune.
I think we could all agree that was epic… I don’t think any of us thought that Johnny Marr could pull that off as good as he did. Remember people, this was Live television and it sounded unbelievable! I give him a lot of credit for what it took to get in front of millions of people and actually own that song. There should be not one negative comment, whatsoever… He deserves a big applause, he created that original guitar sound… Timeless and Eternally priceless
Marr has replaced the chasm that Morrissey left when he turned into an arsehole. He's doing the job of two here, and I think it's better than the original.
‘There’s a Club if you’d like to go? You could meet somebody who really loves you.. So you go and you stand on your own, and you leave on your own, And you go home and you cry, and you want to die.’ It never got better than that.
Marr must be a rock photographer's dream - he never throws a bad shape when playing - totally cool throughout. Only Prince could match him for sheer coolness while playing. Effortless, but full of passion. Guitar God!
Well, he actually transcends his own source material here. That guitar work in the last two minutes.... pretty much the coolest guitarist of the last 35 years right there. Everything is about creating musicality and excitement. Nothing is about wearing technique as a badge. You understand that here, and you understand why Clapton’s Spoonful live is great, too.
Strange thing is that Johnny Marr is only four years older than Noel but because he was only 19 when The Smiths became huge and 23 when they split up it seems like he has been around for longer. He’s been famous for nearly 40 years. He wrote this song when he was 20, which is incredible.
Epic. How fking cool was that. I’m not entirely sure the immediate audience fully appreciates what they’ve just witnessed. Sheer class at work. Superb work Mr. Marr and a MASSIVE shout to the rest of the rhythm section, emulating Joyce and Rouke is no easy task. Fking brilliant lads.
That wicked guitar slide at 0:15 , etc. Sounds like a train locomotive passing a fixed spot at a super speed - creepy cool. Such great percussion and instrumentation. Superb track and performance!
I know right? In my opinion the rythm section of the smiths is the best part, obviously it is not the popular opinion, who cares? Joyce is my favorite drummer
Exactly! That is why I really liked the first few Moz albums with Rourke and Joyce. Once they left I never really liked Moz's music. I know total sacrilege on my part! They need to get back to together.
+Gem Faulkner Look Marr regardless of musical talent has done fk all outside of The Smiths. Saw him support The Stone Roses and was pretty shite. Morrissey seems to of done quite well though post Smiths.
+kinkokonko do your research before you make a comment like that. He's worked with bands like The The, Modest Mouse, The Cribs, Oasis, The Pretenders... doesn't seem like fuck all to me. I will agree on the Morrissey bit.
+MrPge1970 On that point, the song would be 1000% better without the depressing as hell lyrics. The tune soars, but the words make you want to jump down a well. I always wished this tune had different lyrics or even was just an instrumental.
Thats what i always said,,this song could never sound live!! But jon showed me i was wrong... Very good and they all played on point ... Good performance
This is fucking BLISS. I love Morrissey so much, but Johnny as a solo artist puts Smiths' songs together so much better than Morrissey's band ever could. The way he has put this together is genius, I love it so much.
The whole band and JM, were... Hitting! It! That drummer though! His expression, the pure joy seen on his race and in his sticks; that says what ALL were feeling, including the audience!!! I love this video
Will forever remember getting up, hungover as hell after a night of drinking, flipping on the motel room TV, and hearing charmed's version of the song... I never watched the show, but remember my cousin absolutely loving it when it was first airing, so to hear this song as the opening woke my ass up pretty quick. Crazy how music works
I didn't think he would have the balls to actually sing, but not only did he sing, he did one hell of a job. I mean, Morrissey did sing lead vocals on the original track of How Soon is Now correct? Because Marr sounded A LOT like Morrissey.
Just an absolute stunner of a rendition. Sonic as fuck, Johnny in the zone and his voice at least in this song comes very close to Mozz's sound. A blinder...
@@dereksteele291 and I think that's all he was saying...the music is a bit dated. And.. this style isn't very popular anymore. Therefore most of the audience probably isn't emotionally or that artistically invested in it. Like radiohead...I've met people that have never even heard of them...😔 guess I'm just becoming irrelevant also😢
I saw him perform this live. Just amazing. Although I’ve seen Morrissey live too and his vocal is still as it ever was. Better still, I saw the Smiths live many years ago when I was a student in Brixton London. Now that was special. Good to see they are keeping their music alive for a new generation. Genius guitar man, top ten of all time.
Johnny Marr is awesome. He does a fine job singing. But he is one of the greatest guitarist of all time!! The Smiths were the second greatest band ever!
@@kelvinpeterson6169 I'm not denying Morrisey is an excellent lyricist . But you can absolutely get the tone and style of the Smiths music even if you don't understand the lyrics.
Incredibly nailed it......I saw Johnny Marr at HOB in Anaheim back in 2013......He was phenomenal........I saw the Smiths back in the day also........Morrissey 's great too.....
The technical mastery it took to record this song was incredible. After Marr and producer John Porter finally got it, they spent the next several months trying to figure out how to play it live. Andy Rourke call the song a curse. Great to listen to, impossible to reproduce.
Well here it is children. At 3.57 into the song Mr Marr detunes his guitar to create the sound. No studio auto-tune-tom-fuckery there. That's Hendrix style invention (using the instrument to create sounds rather than tech). See Marr's ork with The The (Dusk). epic work....:)
Marr and Morrissey are still here and still rocking ...I've seen marr and morrissey both 1 year apart of each other in San Diego ca. 2018/2019 "Does that mean I've seen the Smith's" Hahaha. One can dream haha I love them both. Viva Morrissey and Marr forever.
The guitar sound that has haunted countless guitar players for 35 years
Yep
Drummer here. I am also haunted by that guitar sound. : )
It goes back to an old Bo Diddley song called "Mona" so a bit longer than 35 years.
Mesmerizing and distinct and identifiable.
Why? Its tremelo played in time
One of the best songs ever written. Doesn't get the widespread credit it deserves - only to those who appreciate it.
Agreed
Tellement
It's an old song. Bottomline, if you're under 50. YOU SIMPLY MISSED OUT.
This one song alone beats out 99.9% nonsense you hear today.
2 words....Fucking brilliant....
Morrissey was the vocals and image of the Smiths, but Marr was their sound.
Morrissey is a bellend
@@mission1001 Ha!
Marr does an superb job! holding the song together,however i'am, reminded about the frontman of the smiths!
@@mission1001 he really is a twat. Marr is the real talent behind the Smiths
Morrisey was the face,johny was the soul.
Brilliant rendition. People forget how much of an impact this band had in such a short span. Phenomenally melancholic
It would have been interesting to see what they would have been if the lead singer wasn't such a downer. As I understand it, Marr would write the instrumental then Moz would generally add the melancholy lyrics, even if was an upbeat tune.
@@tompaulcampbell That's definitely true on William It Was Really Nothing, which is one of my favourite Smiths songs.
Nah. People don't forget.
It's not a rendition.
The problem with Johnny doing this song is that he is so cool, no one believes he would ever leave a club on his own.
Win!
Lol, well played
100% true
Ha-ha! Yeah, well said... 😎
Can't stop laughing!
I think we could all agree that was epic… I don’t think any of us thought that Johnny Marr could pull that off as good as he did. Remember people, this was Live television and it sounded unbelievable! I give him a lot of credit for what it took to get in front of millions of people and actually own that song. There should be not one negative comment, whatsoever… He deserves a big applause, he created that original guitar sound… Timeless and Eternally priceless
Marr has replaced the chasm that Morrissey left when he turned into an arsehole. He's doing the job of two here, and I think it's better than the original.
@California Dreaming Before Morrisey stopped performing it? I think Johnny overtook him for better vocals.
Marr is better!!
Geez. Well I guess I just got surprised by how good Johnny can sing this. Wow.
Marr comes up with most of the material hes on. Hes the main song writer. Dont let anyone tell u different. His language is the guitar
‘There’s a Club if you’d like to go? You could meet somebody who really loves you..
So you go and you stand on your own, and you leave on your own,
And you go home and you cry, and you want to die.’
It never got better than that.
Unless you actually wanted to die...
@@spiderjuice9874so edgy
never was a big SMITHS fan but that was bad ass! he did an incredible job on the vocals. very impressive.
Marr must be a rock photographer's dream - he never throws a bad shape when playing - totally cool throughout. Only Prince could match him for sheer coolness while playing. Effortless, but full of passion. Guitar God!
Johnny Marr has him beat. Prince did get a bit vulgar with his own self adulation on stage.
Well, he actually transcends his own source material here. That guitar work in the last two minutes.... pretty much the coolest guitarist of the last 35 years right there. Everything is about creating musicality and excitement. Nothing is about wearing technique as a badge. You understand that here, and you understand why Clapton’s Spoonful live is great, too.
Marr fans go through a journey. Learn the songs on the album and then figure out wtf he did to keep himself entertained playing it live for years.
even after watching/listening to this a hundred times, this is still an awesome performance -
Johnny marr is probably my favourite guitar player of all time. Too cool for school.
There's just nobody like JM, gives me the goosebumps every time ❤
What a great performance, everything is just perfect!
Does Johnny Marr look like scar face. Toni Montana. Morrissey say hello to my little GEETAR
😂😂😂😂😂💩💩💩💩💩💩
"I made all the right connections on the street...With the right woman, I go straight to the top..."
Johnny Marrtana
Literally never made the association... and now that's all I'm going to see
S O with a little Liam Gallagher thrown in....
Noel Gallagher’s dad once again showing us how it’s meant to be done.
Definitely a genetic resemblance.
"Not even Johnny Marr is as good as Johnny Marr" - Noel Gallagher
😂😂😂
Strange thing is that Johnny Marr is only four years older than Noel but because he was only 19 when The Smiths became huge and 23 when they split up it seems like he has been around for longer. He’s been famous for nearly 40 years. He wrote this song when he was 20, which is incredible.
Soul brother mate soul brother wished Noel was a guitarist like this man tho I still love his playing
Johnny is so enjoying this performance. His smile after he defines the guitar warms my soul. LOVE his playing!
I’m starting to think we will never have music as good as we did in my youth. Timeless! One of the best tracks ever wrote
Epic. How fking cool was that. I’m not entirely sure the immediate audience fully appreciates what they’ve just witnessed. Sheer class at work. Superb work Mr. Marr and a MASSIVE shout to the rest of the rhythm section, emulating Joyce and Rouke is no easy task. Fking brilliant lads.
Unfortunately bookended by one of the biggest tools on TV.
Agreed. Not sure they realised what they were witnessing.
I've never seen someone make playing the guitar look more natural he blew my head right off ❤
This is definitely a studio song because it has so much feel but this is the best version i have heard live by far!
one of my favorite guitarists playing one of my favorite guitars playing my favorite song ever. I love this video
Also one of the best guitarists has a style unlike anyone
That wicked guitar slide at 0:15 , etc. Sounds like a train locomotive passing a fixed spot at a super speed - creepy cool. Such great percussion and instrumentation. Superb track and performance!
Greatest Guitar player I've ever seen. Marr is a legend.
fuking brilliant! every player NAILED their parts
Drum part is wrong I'm afraid. Have a listen.
Snare is a bit plodding, but doesn’t hurt the performance at all.
right
Amazing, right?! It's almost like they rehearsed it beforehand!
...
My God I can't get enough of this video. My new favorite version of this song.
the 2nd guitarist has the slide part down to a tee 100%
Thinking that myself mate.Minted👍
That's James Doviak - he is a machine!
He’s played it a zillion times, and probably grew up listening to it as many!
God I hope so😂
Right on
Truly a gem....
I'm so happy to have seen this video. My teenage heart ache
Lost in the Marr vs Moz debate, is the contribution of both Rourke and Joyce. The bass lines make many of the songs.
I know right? In my opinion the rythm section of the smiths is the best part, obviously it is not the popular opinion, who cares? Joyce is my favorite drummer
“William, it was really nothing” is a perfect example of this
so fucking true!
Exactly! That is why I really liked the first few Moz albums with Rourke and Joyce. Once they left I never really liked Moz's music. I know total sacrilege on my part! They need to get back to together.
@@bphcx shut up
His voice in this is on point. JOHNNY FUCKIN MARR.
lol
Yes it is - it is wonderful- but it's not Morrissey's voice.
Beautiful tunes from Johnny but it needs SP Morrissey's voice.
+Gem Faulkner Look Marr regardless of musical talent has done fk all outside of The Smiths.
Saw him support The Stone Roses and was pretty shite.
Morrissey seems to of done quite well though post Smiths.
+kinkokonko do your research before you make a comment like that. He's worked with bands like The The, Modest Mouse, The Cribs, Oasis, The Pretenders... doesn't seem like fuck all to me.
I will agree on the Morrissey bit.
+MrPge1970 On that point, the song would be 1000% better without the depressing as hell lyrics. The tune soars, but the words make you want to jump down a well. I always wished this tune had different lyrics or even was just an instrumental.
Sweet Jesus...I am so glad I grew up to this music. Wow!!!!!!!
The depth of texture and complexity Marr adds to the original is breathtaking.
Thats what i always said,,this song could never sound live!!
But jon showed me i was wrong...
Very good and they all played on point ...
Good performance
i am bewildered by so much beauty of sounds
He was in the zone and he knew it.
djvartan When is he not?
Love him messing with the tuning pegs around 3:20. What a player
I have never seen that before.
SO RAW MAN I'M SO GLAD SOMEONE IN THE COMMENTS MENTIONED THIS.
I can barely tie my shoes and this cat is playing and tuning at the same time...life is not fair
Legendary.
@@JeffCrowell11 Jeff, Stevie Ray Vaughn (R.I.P.) used to do that as well. Of course, he was always off his face when performing.
~ Bastard always makes it look easy! Love his style...Anything and Everything he's done!
Johnny Marr and his incredibly talented band blow my head off every time I hear them play this. Too cool for school!
Wow sounds amazing. Marr’s vocal fits perfectly.
This is fucking BLISS. I love Morrissey so much, but Johnny as a solo artist puts Smiths' songs together so much better than Morrissey's band ever could. The way he has put this together is genius, I love it so much.
I must say I'm surprised over how good Marr sounds here. A very good live rendition guitar AND vocals.
Marr is in the zone! A beautiful thing to watch. Go man go.
Guitar was always the best part of this song. Morrissey's band does a decent cover version, but this is the real deal.
I say the best part of the song is the whole song
Marr is covering Morrissey’s voice, so this too is a partial cover. I do love Johnny’s playing though.
He recreates the guitar sound perfectly! Morrisey looks old and middle aged now. But Marr looks almost the same.
Marr is the man!
Morrissey is either old or middle-aged. He can’t be both!
Wow he kinda looks like Al Pacino from Scarface ... say hallo to my lil' friend!
Hillarious mate, I can't not see it now
+Zelpo777 What Pacino is to acting, Marr is to guitar. Better, even. Simple as that.
+Zelpo777 He looks kinda like Nils Lofgren.
Zelpo777 😂😂
Hahaha, I thought the same thing!!
He is so cool tunning his guitar!
Just stumbled onto this old performance and I'm blown away. It made me feel like that it was the first time hearing it. Awesome!
LOVE the way these boys JAM it out on the guitar near the end. LOVE JAM!! 👍
Absolutely extraordinary stuff. Astonishing. And, boy, isn't he having fun! Cheers.
Untuning the guitar during the song (with a capo to boot) & getting it back in tune during the song is pure talent.
He's not called Johnny 'fucking' Marr for nothing.
Watched this loads of times. Can't believe how tight these guys are. Brilliant.
Blown away, great vocals. True genius.
This resonated with me as a teenager, still does at 51! I love you Johnny Marr ❤️
Amazing ..... brilliant.... awesome....no more words have I
All power to Mr. Marr...If Morrisey can play Smiths songs that he co wrote....then why can't Johnny, who is playing both parts do it.
I’ll say it..Andy Rourke (and Peter Hook) made me want to play bass. And this is one of the songs that did it. Totally under appreciated.
Not Nick Karn?
Wow, that's awesome. love the tuning during the solo, wicked.
The whole band and JM, were... Hitting! It! That drummer though! His expression, the pure joy seen on his race and in his sticks; that says what ALL were feeling, including the audience!!! I love this video
Well said! They owned this track and speaking as a pro drummer, he was on point with this performance.
My daughter and I just saw Johnny Marr in Tempe and when he played this song the whole place went crazy.
damn! great voice Johnny! never knew you could sing!!!!
Brilliant! Johnny Marr is simply brilliant! What a performance!!!
Well over 30+ years listening to the Smiths, and solo projects.
These guys are original’s.
Well done Johnny😎
I don't do many comments in RUclips, but just have to say this is an awesome live performance of a gold standard that will last for decades...
Will forever remember getting up, hungover as hell after a night of drinking, flipping on the motel room TV, and hearing charmed's version of the song... I never watched the show, but remember my cousin absolutely loving it when it was first airing, so to hear this song as the opening woke my ass up pretty quick. Crazy how music works
The deep base and soulful undertones make this a masterpiece. 1 of the best songs of the 80s
I didn't think he would have the balls to actually sing, but not only did he sing, he did one hell of a job. I mean, Morrissey did sing lead vocals on the original track of How Soon is Now correct? Because Marr sounded A LOT like Morrissey.
He sounded f*cking stellar for sure and a lot like that other guy that sings it.
One of my favorite guitarists that I haven't seen yet.
Johnny Marr, it turns out, is just badass.
Right on the money with the same sound, great job indeed.
not only a sublime guitar player but a vocalist who is not much inferior to Morrissey.
Daniil Lytovchenko
Just an absolute stunner of a rendition. Sonic as fuck, Johnny in the zone and his voice at least in this song comes very close to Mozz's sound. A blinder...
Howl!! My guitar HERO!!! Manchester!! Dancechester!! Dang Madchester! What music history!
Brilliant song!! Amazing lyrics and music! This song holds the test of time!!
There’s no substitute for talent.... brilliant..
I forgotten how good this tune is 👍
I would be willing to bet 98% of the audience behind them are hearing this song for the first time, and were not even born when it first came out.
Nor do they care...the smiths are radiohead are so dam great! Love this song!
and?
@@dereksteele291 and I think that's all he was saying...the music is a bit dated. And.. this style isn't very popular anymore. Therefore most of the audience probably isn't emotionally or that artistically invested in it. Like radiohead...I've met people that have never even heard of them...😔 guess I'm just becoming irrelevant also😢
@@knightrider9742 so if most of those people have never heard the song so the song is not dated
@@abelmontalvo4052 valid point ...you're brilliant.
He makes that guitar sound like your in a beautiful dream! I can't get over how good that sounded!!!!
I would love to put this song in an 8 hour loop and sleep to it!
I saw him perform this live. Just amazing. Although I’ve seen Morrissey live too and his vocal is still as it ever was. Better still, I saw the Smiths live many years ago when I was a student in Brixton London. Now that was special. Good to see they are keeping their music alive for a new generation. Genius guitar man, top ten of all time.
Detuning the guitar at 3:19? Marr is still impressing me 30 years later
Amen to that. Marr is the man...
p.s. Did you catch the Bo Diddley groove at about 2:45? It fits perfectly...
jdexposure no, I didn't haha!
+jdexposure Yeah its perfect, the original riff of the song is also Diddley-ish
listen to Disco Stomp by Hamilton Bohannon and Can I want more - That's where Marr said he got he idea for this
Nailed it totally.
Yes, better than ever
fredintheshed1
I hope he nailed it...He wrote the freakin song lol.
Veronica Harris who took the jam out of your donut?
Veronica Harris haha he does that.
He swung a giant hammer into the
Forehandead of Morrissey
Completely hitting the target.
THAT GUITAR SOUND !!
+WolfHeavyMetal Great !!!!
Wow! He can even sing this Classic correctly! Well done! A true guitar hero for the rest of us...!!
Johnny Marr is awesome. He does a fine job singing. But he is one of the greatest guitarist of all time!! The Smiths were the second greatest band ever!
sellinmcgellin acdc
sellinmcgellin PINK FLOYD!!!!!!!
as long as it isn't bieber or most of the pop crap around today , simon cowell and his cronies have killed real music
For me the smiths were the second best band ever too, but the first being the cure
Pop music was just as bad in the 80s as it is today. Occasionally bands like the Smiths would have modest chart success, butr that was it.
The real genius of The Smiths
1000%
Morissey wrote the lyrics moron
@@kelvinpeterson6169 Aaaand Johnny Marr wrote literally everything else...
@@hiddensecreturl Marr did the music Morissey the style and most of the Lyrics.
@@kelvinpeterson6169 I'm not denying Morrisey is an excellent lyricist . But you can absolutely get the tone and style of the Smiths music even if you don't understand the lyrics.
Incredibly nailed it......I saw Johnny Marr at HOB in Anaheim back in 2013......He was phenomenal........I saw the Smiths back in the day also........Morrissey 's great too.....
In my top five of fav guitar players awesome player!
I was so focused on "him-not-being-morrissey", that I almost missed this phenomenal guitar performance! Wild stuff!
The reason we all love The Smiths. Mr Johnny Marr ladies and gentlemen.
I keep coming back to this video-
Me three
Me four
How can you not? What a performance!
One of the best Smith's song !!!! Johnny's voice is good !!!
The technical mastery it took to record this song was incredible. After Marr and producer John Porter finally got it, they spent the next several months trying to figure out how to play it live. Andy Rourke call the song a curse. Great to listen to, impossible to reproduce.
What I read was the Tremelo setting would drift out of synch with the beat of the song so they had to record his guitar in snippets.
@@SoundmanForEver Here’s a great channel and great video discussing how they recorded it.
ruclips.net/video/O7A1HkunGmY/видео.html
All I hear was Marr nailing it live. The months nonsense is nonsense.
@@roberth1322 I guess Marr and Porter are liars then. Robert H has got all the facts. 🤣
@@mrblonde432 Touché. You OK mate?
Johnny FOOKIN Marr!
British feelings
MOI NAME, IS JOHNNY FOOKIN MAHH
@Wayne Holmes 🖕🖕🖕
FOOOK Yeah!!
Goosebumps...That was amazing!!
Hope that The Roots took notes from this guitar god (and they’re supremely talented). But no one can bend a chord like Mr. Johnny Marr. Genius.
I saw Jonny Marr at 02 Academy this week. The man is genius and to this day F***ing brilliant!!!
Well here it is children. At 3.57 into the song Mr Marr detunes his guitar to create the sound. No studio auto-tune-tom-fuckery there. That's Hendrix style invention (using the instrument to create sounds rather than tech). See Marr's ork with The The (Dusk). epic work....:)
Paulos Meek Joey Santiago is one of the greats in that respect
Paulos Meek thousands of other guitar players do the same thing with a tremolo. Nothing new here.
Anthony vWWVW. W w. W. Week-end w. W W. W W
You're just going to ignore all of the studio experimentation that Hendrix did?
I think Jose feliciano was doing it before hendrix
JM is an absolute legend!!
Wow..Sounds similar to Morrissey's vocals.. On a side note, i think we can safely say where Noel Gallagher's biggest influence comes from..
Its clearly johny squire
Yeah he loves Johnny he said so in like a million videos. I think Johny gave Noel a black les Paul when he was first coming up and broke
+Rhythmista great work from the sound guy, recreating the same eq and room
+Rhythmista sorry but Gallagher may be a good guitarist by far from the genius invention of sound of Marr ...
***** Yeah I agree but nobody said he was a better guitarist in the first place.
The man’s a genius. This is jangle of the highest order - in a class of its own. Always strikes me as an English Byrds
This is the coolest man alive right here!!!!!
best version of this song I have ever heard
Totally agree.
I don't think anything comes close to this live performance of it:
ruclips.net/video/eFLKyNLM1Tk/видео.html
I love this song...forever.
Marr and Morrissey are still here and still rocking ...I've seen marr and morrissey both 1 year apart of each other in San Diego ca. 2018/2019 "Does that mean I've seen the Smith's" Hahaha. One can dream haha I love them both. Viva Morrissey and Marr forever.