The Creepiest Base of WW2
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- Опубликовано: 14 окт 2024
- Doctor Wernher von Braun, the mastermind behind the German V-2 rocket, woke up in the middle of the night after hearing the raid sirens of the Peenemünde Army Research Center complex.
Still with sleep in his eyes, he made his way to the raid alert communications center to see if the enemy had truly discovered the top-secret facility on the quiet island of Usedom in the Baltic Sea.
The artificial fog system surrounding the secret complex was activated to shroud it from any eyes above. There must be something wrong with the sirens, a tired engineer muttered. There were no enemy aircraft in the area.
Yet, as von Braun and his team headed back to their quarters, one of the guards noticed something odd. A flare lit up the sky, then another, and another. Soon, the artificial fog had disappeared, completely exposing the base.
The roaring sound of a hundred engines signaled the beginning of Operation Hydra: Britain’s plan to get rid of the V-2 rocket program. Von Braun and the entire team of German scientists were about to face a rain of bombs…
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From 2018 to 2021 I worked as a medical driver at a very prestigious and large retirement community, Rogue Valley Manor. I would take the residents to and from their medical appointments. There was very many WWII veterans living there. I had one senior who I regularly took to and from the eye doctor every week. His name was Fred Speer. He was 99 years old then. He was at Peenemunde. He worked daily with Von Braun. At that time, as Fred stated he was just a kid out of high school who was good with working numbers. He followed Von Braun around everyday acting as a human calculator. I asked him one day that didn't the Allies bomb that facility? He stated yes. He said they knew the bombing raid was coming so they placed himself as well as the rest of the people there on an island about 10 miles from Peenemunde. They watched the raid from there.
Interesting, thanks.
Good egg.
Fascinating thanks for sharing!
I doubt they knew. A lot of rocket scientists were killed in that raid.
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I would say my guy is imminently more credible vs what you got. He was exactly who I said he was. That's just fact. Just saying.
I have some pieces of a V1 dug up from an English farm field in my personal collection. The Estes model rocket version flies impressively well. Testament to its simple yet effective design.
My dad worked in the "rocket racket" at Aerojet from 1949 to 1969. I remember him bringing home a paper titled "Was you effer in Peenemunde?" It was a bunch of Germanized English quotes and questions.
He thought Theodore Von Karman was a better & smarter person but that Von Braun had a better PR guy.
both Karman (Hungarian origin) and von Braun (German) worked in the US after 1945 ... von Braun's last project were the Space Shuttles. Most well known were these and the Saturn rockets for the Apollo Moon missions.
I would highly recommend a book titled "The Rocket Team: From the V-2 to the Saturn Moon Rocket" written by Frederick Ira Ordway III & Mitchell R. Sharpe. First printed in 1979. Excellent book with lots of great stories.
The Polish underground had taken surveillance photos of the V1. They even managed to recover and smuggle out a v1 which had been lost in marshes near Peenemunde
Wow, that's like the discovery of the Russian missile's on the island of Cuba in 1962 that sparked the Cuban Missile Crisis, for a very long time the official story was that imagery from a U2 overflight is how they were discovered but that wasn't true, it was "human assets", aka spies who discovered and reported them to a CIA team that used to sneak onto Cuba about once a week at predetermined times and locations to get reports from them, the U2 narrative was invented to protect them so Cuban intelligence wouldn't catch on to the fact that there were Cubans spying for the US on the island, they kept the U2 cover story in place for as long as any of those assets that were part of discovering the missile's were alive because they continued being human assets there for years, only after they'd all passed away did US intelligence declassify their existence along with the true story of how the missile's were discovered.
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A friend of mine’s Dad went down in a Halifax on one of the Penamunde raids. Spent the rest of the war as a POW.
Thank you for sharing
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Not forgetting that Von Braun forged a career with NASA after the war.
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@@jamesjross 😂
Surely the fact that this base and also the tunnels at Mittelbau Dora doubled as concentration camps with huge casualty figures due to the usual reasons, is way creepier.
Why did they spare the liquid oxygen facility? Makes no sense.
Because tell me what are you going to do with liquid air with nothing to use it on hmm?
You have 3 bombing waves to hit only 3 targets. How is the oxygen a higher target than the brains behind it. The Place they are built. And the place where all the advacements are made.
You take out the people who came up with the ideas. The Place the ideas are kept and can thus be reverse engineered. And the ability to make the bulk of the parts. An oxygen plant is quite low on that list of priorities so yes... It does make a lot of sense actually because making liquid oxygen isnt exactly hard or complex to do...? Not like... say. building a rocket motor?
@@brentonherbert7775I don't think you understand what you're talking about
@@signalsoldier28 Well considering you didnt correct im going to assume you dont ether :)
At least you all fit in... nobody on this page knows what they are talking about. This whole comment section reads like an adult diaper forum.
Speaking of the V2s it makes you wonder if the Nazis did put a person in space just out of pure curiosity if it could be done
It could have been done (considering the payload capacity), but they didn't.
They propably didn't have specialised life support equipment for that, especially not landing. they considered a human- guided version intended to reach america. (with a big first stage)
To get to space, They only used Reichsflugscheiben (ufo's) . 😊
You can see it all in the excellent fiction, Iron Sky :)
If he (or she) died from encountering unknown circumstances, who would they have to have told about it?
No it doesn't.
One of their Rockets did break into space and came back down I remember reading about but cant remember the distants the Germans were so far a head of their time
They did put a monkey up.
iM From Medfor Too and used to wash dishes for the Rogue Valley Manor. Thats cool! I never knew that about the vets though!? wow!
The real bonus was that the Germans were forced to relocate the production facilites underground at a massive cost in time and labour, not to mention that by decentralizing the facilities it made doing the science and manufacturing harder.
Werner Von Braun, was way ahead of his time, thankfully the allies appreciated his value and gaoled him in the west, preventing the Russians from his intense knowledge of rocket power.
His thoughts probably brought space travel into existence thirty years befoe its timeThe technical advancements were way before its time. Jet engines were developed faster as was rocket technology. Add all the micro electronic development and we are today at least fifty years in front of wher we should be.
Micro surgery for which i am most grateful for having had successful heart bypass surgery, being one of life's normalities today.
Electronic development flight engineering car engine development, faster rail engins are but a few areas mankind excells with today.
In reality we should just be deveoping colour television now rather than it becoming commonplace in the sixties onwards.
A lot of that tech was developed by the West, and the jet engines were developed on Whittle's published work.
@@johnathanh2660 Agreed, but a great deal of his work was based on Von Brauns notes and theories.
@@stevebagnall1553
Jet engines were Whittle and the British, Rocket engines were the Germans and Von Braun.
"Electronic development flight engineering car engine development, faster rail engins are but a few areas mankind excells with today."
This was already well underway BEFORE the space race. I suggest you look at the proximity fuse and the cavity magnetron.
"In reality we should just be deveoping colour television now rather than it becoming commonplace in the sixties onwards."
Work on this was in place in the 1950s, in part by the BBC.
“Gaoled”??? What the hell is that?
@@vincedibona4687
Jailed, British variant.
It's fairly uncommon now as we've done what we (linguistically) usually do 'adopt' words and their meanings from other places and contexts. :)
Feel free to Google it....
Lancaster "G for George" of the Royal Australian Air Force flew the first Hydra mission, one can currently view her at the Australian War Memorial Canberra she flew 90 missions across Europe in WW2.
How was artificial fog created to cover the 9.8 square mile facility?
You might have heard of this thing called wind...
It has this habit of making stuff spread out.
I understand that the Brit’s said they were lucky that the V2 were coming up 30 miles short of London tricking the Germans.
London impacts were being media-connected to flights that overshot, so the Nazis trimmed the range down...
Don't call us Brits and don't use erroneous apostrophes. English, British. Londoners.
@@jamesjross -- sorry, didn’t realize it was an issue.
@@Charles-k9g5y Sorry I was being facetious - I doubt anyone would care - Although I never hear anyone say "I'm a Brit". I was just trying to be funny - but you lose all tone in comments.
The British were broadcasting in their news reports that the rockets were landing west of London. The Germans listened to the British news, and adjusted the rockets so (they thought) would land in London. But they actually fell east of the city.
Almost 1yr. later the Brit. echelons took notice. What a raid !. Thanks. Dave
Who's Dave?
The mosquito was a fantastic aircraft.
Yes!!!
Ah yes 'The wooden wonder'
I always thought the Polish Underground/Resistance had a part to play.
I also thought the first V2 fell on Paris 06/09/44.
Nothing mentioned ... ?
The fog system made it the creepiest base?
another great clip from the Dark team. Always appreciate the content.
because you're simple and easily amused and like badly presented, mistake ridden nonsense?
@@jamesjross No, just to trigger projection from the passive aggressive incels and karens that frequent RUclips. You rang the bell, good boy. Now enjoy your frenzy and keep foaming at the mouth
In hindsight the allies really have to thank the rocket men. Who else could use up so much German resources. The V weapons were scientifically amazing but strategically completely useless at the time.
I can remember very well the v1,it was ok while you could hear the engine ,but once it stopped it came straight down
If you don’t hear it it’s coming towards you
Well thats how gravity works now isnt it ? Lo.l. Id imagine anything with propulsion is going to come down eventually once its energy source stops
*whispers* Hail Hydra
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"..........hail hydra."
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Rocket racing sounds like something that should have originated in Florida
Hard to believe that Von-Braun, would go onto be the lead engineer of NASA JPL and his work, result in mankind, landing on the moon.
He wasn’t lead engineer of nasa. He was the head of the Saturn V development which was part of the Apollo program. But yes his Nazi past was conveniently forgotten.
Look up kissinger's nazi paperclip imports into the US. Not just scientists, but also intelligence experts that created what is disguised as an "American" intelligence organization. Their proteges still running it to this day.
Yeah he got his dream of putting a rocket on the moon.
@@sblack48 Good
von Braun headed the work for the US Army Missile Command at Redstone Arsenal in Huntsville, Alabama.
The Germans ran the show.
Are the thumbnails just ironic now!?!
...as are the titles.
Tom Bower's books, "Blind Eye to Murder" [post-war cover-up of widespread, generalised atrocities in Europe, done mostly by Nazis] and another, "Paperclip Conspiracy", examined selection of those guilty of war crimes but not prosecuted, being deemed useful to the USA.
So sad we had to lose all the best scientists of the 20th century in a single bombing
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the Lancaster dropping the bombs at night with precision that killed over 500 prisoners but the island base was the second or third base for the V2 or the A4 the first base had been found through aerial photographs The scorch ground they didn't know what it was some of the people that studied and deciphered the aerial photographs noticed it and they couldn't figure out what it was and they brought it to the attention of the higher-ups and that's how they found the first base and blew them out and then they moved to the island and that bombing raid didn't even slow the V2 down it kept coming
Yeah... But it did more to stop the V2s than not even attacking at all. Thats what a lot of people who think they're smart talking about stuff in hindsight seem to forget.
Nobody knows what you even said. Use periods next time
Could you repost this, using proper grammar, spelling, and punctuation this time? Thanks.
@@vincedibona4687 Average response of someone who has nothing to add.
What was so creepy? All the camps were much scarier Imo.
I had read that the Rocket Club that Vob Braun was in just followed Dr. Goddard here in the US. Dr. Goddard offered the technology to the US government but was rejected (Oooops). What further compounded the situation was the Treaty of Versi forbad the Germans from making too much Steel. . . . . They didn't need steel . . . . Germany has allot of Bauxite (Aluminum). I had also read the total quantity for the V2 was 2000 ea.
What is so creepy about Peenemunde? This is "Old News", nothing new here.
did you find that v2 that went to orbit?
They didn't say it went into Orbit. They said it entered space before returning and hitting its target.
@@coryfogle5353 Never happened. However, saying it was acheived could bring much financing. That's what the Gernan rocketeers were about. Government financing their work. All military's first question: can you weaponuze it ? Saying "yes"= $. Saying "no" means the project may get financing, but the leadership would be replaced by those interested in weaponizing it. Before such a meeting, the military already believes it can & should be weaponized.
I think like making a tent near the jetty forest area to easily go jetty thinking of this: own country, others' rule imagination which they together secretly don't tell others of situation but try to create a summarised decision and action to do. Stuff like vape, boat, cigarettes, their happiness should be my loss of experience in life. Can't be none knew or in a type of belief totally, they knew they are attacking secretly to add suffering to exist.
Heavy medal of honor flashbacks...
how did they create fog for cover at there commanded
Der Riese is way creepier
What's so creepy about a remote place we're bleeding edge technology is cobled up out of the Earth🇺🇲🗽⚖️⚙️⚙️⚔️
Rocketman... Epic nickname
You forget the Antarctic base which is the most secret base of WW2
Admilal Byrds naval defeat there. Forrestal "jumped" out of a window because he wanted to tell the news of the defeat in the Antarctic. 😢
How do you bomb POW camps with "pin-point accuracy"?
Rocket science is easy, it's just simple newtons laws. Its the engineering of them that's difficult
it had CCTV
Well eyes have been officially opened even more. In the first 1:20 of this video, they mentioned something about artificial fog.
So the Germans had the technology to do it back then. We already know that our government is notorious for renaming things. Could this artificial fog be cloud seating today? Used for the same purpose.
No. Fog is created from 100% humidity in the air. The amount of water vapor necessary for 100% humidity varies according to the air temperature. The colder the air, the less water required. The amount of fog directly related to the amount ot "treated air". That's a long way of saying, lower the air temperature and saturate it with water vapor creates a fog curtain. They made it's own liquid oxygen for fuel and, as you know, liquid oxygen is quite cold. Pipe it out to locations requiring fog and add pressurized water and easy peazy fog. Getting the mixture/nozzles right has much in common with rocket combustion chambers.
@dbeelee8564 or they just use a copper container leave it out in the sun because it gets 100 degrees in Germany. Put cold water in, boom. Artificial fog, stop being so confusing. Just say it
I don't care what anyone says... The German Scientists were the greatest in the world back then. In some ways they still are.. Not Nazi scientists but German scientists. Wernher von Braun would have been imprisoned or shot if he refused to work on the V-2 for the Nazis. So when we got him as a NASA scientist there should have been no prejudice against him.. Of course, being in the U.S. some people did not like him and he was left out of the LIMELIGHT he DESERVED!
Lol. Out of the limelight they deserved ? Then, how do you know his name ? Von Braun was the limelight. Von Braun was active in getting a craft to space, but he didn't built a space craft. Those (plural for the moon project) were designed and built elsewhere. Those remain a secret. Flight to space is one thing. Space flight is a whole different thing. Landing on the moon and returning very much different than the other two. His Peenemunde boss took care of the space flight and moon landing part. Sssssshhh ! Lol. Taught to me as a child by those who did it. Ever see a personal rocket ? One you strap on your back & fly around ? Me watching at 5yo. Hint: it doesn't look like a rocket's body, but the chemicals, properly mixed, creates a controlled thrust designed to lift, move or hover and land a person off the ground. Same 5 yo observing the first US spy satelite navigational system. Where do you want to look ? Somewhere off rocket tragectory? OK, then ...
What was creepy about it?
So if the British hadn't missed Mr. Brown the Yanks wouldn't have got to the moon?
Hail Operation Hydra! ;-)
First to say "Hail Hydra".
To have been a fly on the wall and to have learned all the top secret information they had there would have been interesting.
The Germans developed many weapons that no one had seen before.
NOT SCIENTISTS!!! -> ENGINEERS
and IT'S NOT "ROCKET SCIENCE" => it's ROCKET ENGINEERING!!!!
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Avengers? 😅
Real history is more interesting than Hollywood and comic book fiction
@@adamsteele6148You are spot on about that!
Ahh....brain surgery...huh? Good...good.....not exactly rocket science though.
VonBraun headed NASA...🤐
There we go. Polish intel again ;)
That time the British bombed NASA?! Too soon?
4:25 "Propaganda minister Gerbels"
What the hell is the matter with 'murikans and your complete inability to pronounce that particular name. Now don't get me started on NUKULAR.
Buuuuurrrrrnnn the Nazis!!! lol admittedly I have a laundry list of terrible American things, Operation Paperclip is top 10
Don't mistake Americans for the lizards in charge!
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