Quirky San Francisco Street and Neighborhood Names | How To Say It Like A Local
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
- San Francisco Bay Area has a lot of quirky street names and neighborhoods with unusual pronunciations. Plus we've got some pretty picky preferences when it comes to nicknames and how to refer to places. I've been getting some wrong! How many did you know about?
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San Rafael is San Rah-fell
Excellent video, but ... one word you should really learn to pronounce correctly is "pronunciation"! It's not "pronounciation."
Also "Van Go" is NOT the "Dutch way" of pronouncing "Van Gogh." Dutch people have no idea why Americans pronounce "Van Gogh" as "Van Go." (The British say "Van Goff," which is closer but also wrong.)
Spanish speakers, we call it San Pancho which is short for Fransisco
Interesting fact! I did not know that. 🤓
I would love for you to come to Visitacion Valley and the Portola districts and see what we have to offer once we get the all clear from Mayor Breed of course.
I still have that on my list! I seriously was going to come visit this month and then the quarantine happened :(
Hey there! Got ur last reply and removed it so your contact info isn't public. Will definitely contact u soon to arrange for a visit. :)
Hey there! Just an FYI that I sent an email but got several bouncebacks. Feel free to find me on Instagram at ZeeneInRealLife and send me a private DM :)
Still waiting in January 2021 😱
I have never heard anyone refer to the Financial District as fee-dee, but I have heard people pronounce FiDi as both parts rhyming with the words lie, die, sigh
Thanks for the correction 👍
I rewatched the Hawaiian style restaurant episode with the guava malasada and chicken katsu. You mentioned "dogpatch" area. Where is this. I've never heard that location term.
Unfortunately that restaurant is now closed :( It's a small neighborhood east of Portrero Hill. When you lived here Dogpatch was very obscure - mostly residential and best known as being HQ for a local Hell's Angels chapter :) (a friend of mine lived down the street from them). I guess due to the low rents, it's become a hot retail/restaurant and start-up area the last decade or so. It's gotten quite gentrified.
There is a book titled "San Francisco Street Secrets" that tells the stories of the various streets. It's a fun read as it includes a lot of dirt.
Interesting! I will look for it.
When I get out of quarantine I'm throwing a big party at my Cabrillo Pad.
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The Avenues was used as collective term for Richmond and Sunset Districts. Valencia St and Valencia Gardens were pronounced "Valencha". Polk Gulch and Eureka Valley are now archaic. South of the Slot was used going way back as a colorful term for South of Market. Little Hollywood is little known, but truly cool, Lots of American flags on patriotic holidays. Saint Mary's Park (neighborhood and actual park) is in danger of cancelation by the Khmer Woke as they labor to enshrine the anti-Christ as king of the world. There was no Design District, Theater District, SOMA, South Beach, South Park, Mission Bay. These were created to boost real estate interests. Or the creative creative industries that has prospered off the tech/real estate/art student/biotech boom.
Interesting history! Thanks! Still lots of real estate “neighborhoods” being created today.
I heard that too. My great grandfather said Valencia like that. also Kearny was (car-knee).
Haven't heard us called "locals" but rather "natives"....SF native, City navtive, 3rd/4th/5th generation native. Locals....not so much.
Thank you for this. Good to have a review. I think I'm using the preferred version for all of those after 30+ years here, though I'm sure I'm saying St. Helena wrong. You didn't cover "Arguello" which majority seems to be "Ar-gwel-o" while I insist on "Ar-gwey-o". I'll do "Ca-bree-o" as well if I'm feeling grumpy.
"Cesar Chavez" needs to be with "Ch" like in "Church", but isn't pronounced like Spanish.
Any neighborhood that takes "District" also takes "The". Adding "Inner" or "Outer" always removes "District."
I've noticed variety with regard to adding "the" with Inners or Outers, but I always add it in such cases.
Anything taking "Heights" or "Hill" doesn't take "The".
I got corrected on CLEM-ent (to the correct cluh-MENT) the first time I went there, and now pronounce it properly.
People have started adding "The" to "Dogpatch" and it hella bugs me.
I've never heard anyone say "FiDi" only seen it in print.
I have never heard of anyone refer to San Mateo county as the "South Bay". It's simply "The Peninsula". Also, the Silicon Valley is NOT San Jose. Silicon Valley (and "South Bay") is Santa Clara County plus arguably small parts parts of southern San Mateo and Alameda counties.
agree about San Fran. I try to explain to people who aren't from the bay and they don't' get it. it's like going to NYC and calling it Yorkie or some nonsense. you would get weird looks. same here. it just grates. Ghirardelli with hard g is correct. it's also correct in Italian. the whole point of putting the h is to keep the g hard because it would sound like J when preceding I or e.
Are you a San Francisco City Guide? do you go on SFCG walks? so yeah do more on street names and districts and how do you think about what and where Bernal Heights is relative to the Mission or GG Park or Corona Heights Park,.. and names of streets yes, and is there some confusion about Kearny , there were two in SF history ,, one in the Mexican American War and the other,,, which somewhere i thought it was named after the other? and ofcourse fun names like Brannon, lots of interesting stories about him and , and and
There is tons of people that call it Frisco. It is also infused with the music... RBL Posse, San Quinn, Mac Dre, Rappin 4 Tay, and there is many who grew up in the city that will call it Frisco...
Nothing wrong with calling it Frisco or San Fran, it's a free country. Call it what you want.
Local for 25+ years now
It is a class thing. When it was a workingman's town, it was called Frisco, by the working class. Needless to say, times changed and the wealthy preferred " San Francisco". They won the town.
Truck Drivers in particular called it Frisco.
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Ca-BRILL-O is correct. Cabrillo is a Portuguese name and Portuguese pronounce "LL" with a 'L' sound not Spanish 'y' sound.
Ca-bree-O wipes out Portuguese culture and replaces with Spanish. And that's not culturally nice! And you do such nice videos!
Interesting! Thanks for the background and you’re right that it’s likely Portuguese. There are so many different cultural influences in S.F. and they do get muddled. Glad you are enjoying the videos!
It's amazing how much interesting information you pack into your videos. I can't believe I've been saying some of these names incorrectly all these years. Maybe it is I because am in the far Southbay. But also because of the accent. Oddly, I just uploaded a video with my voice narration for the first time a few minutes before watching yours about proper pronunciation. I have a long way to go.
I'm sure u r fine. :)
Down south in LA, we have a peninsula also, the Palos Verdes Peninsula which fun fact the current occupant of the White House built one of his National golf courses on the Palos Verdes Peninsula. Ten years ago, my mom and I went to the wedding of family friends @ the golf course which overlooks a few of the holes and the ocean. During dinner, my mom asked one of the servers if he ever came there,my mom had asked it partly curious and partly as a joke. The server said that he was there the previous week.
Down here , we have a beach in Long Beach called Cabrillo Beach, I think we tend to put a Spanish twang when saying Cabrillo with some of us rolling the r with a trill. Though technically, LA'S south bay is El Segundo , Torrance, Manhattan, Hermosa and Redondo Beach, we add in Hawthorne, Gardena , Long Beach, San Pedro and the aforementioned PV peninsula, Rancho PV , Rolling Hills and PV and Rolling Hills Estates
Fun facts!
Hey Zeene: I enjoyed your sailing video.While we'll have to wait for the Shelter In Place Orders to lift, I'd like to suggest that you create a video on the various types of Bay Cruises available. Seeing San Francisco from the water is huge fun, and we have tons of options available.... Thanks....
Thanks Finn! Will put that topic on my list. You are right that getting out on the water is a must do activity...
Hi Zeene, I’ve been a longtime watcher of yours...okay wait that sounded creepy . Let’s start again lol I’ve been a viewer and big fan of yours for about a year and love your videos. I just wanted to say as a former SF local your videos help me feel closer to home. It’s been over 10 year since I moved from the City and I miss it all the time! Also glad your staying productive and finding new ways to keep kicking butt on your channel! Stay safe and sanitized girl!
That's awesome and really appreciate you supporting the channel :) Stay safe and healthy!
Hmm, maybe you can do a video on local place or things you have been eating or making while quarantined. What have you been doing to occupy yourself, if you do not have to work from home ( I work from home, right now.)
Fun! I was thinking of a "weird stuff left in the grocery store after hoard buying" so thanks for the idea of a food video 👍
I think one could get away by saying Frisco but beware about saying g opinions about football. I almost had my butt kicked in the 80s because I said something bad about the Niners.
😂 Or the Giants...
what about Dore Alley? I worked with the Dore Alley clinic and we pronounced it like "door" but I have heard people recently saying "door-ee"
Good one!
Oh hi! Glad youre back, youve been missed.. short story short, ive lost my restaurant job at sfo. its super silly out there.. when this is over, pho on me..
Hi Luigi!! Glad to hear from you - I was about to reach and and see how that was going as I was sure the airport got impacted. Sorry to hear :( DM me on Instagram and we can chat...
Urban culture in the Bay Area accepts “frisco”. I’m from San Jose but I have a lot of friends from the city
Thanks! Interesting to hear :)
Hahaha yet is the operative word! Especially when you have a hungry teenage son!
Lolz
So true! I noticed locals say one Chinatown and refer to one on Clement Street as Richmond.
Good one; although IMO Richmond/Sunset has newer restaurants and is more varied in terms of regional Chinese cuisine.
I thought you might mention Greenwich, which I used to pronounce as it's spelled, only to find it's pronounced Greenich. With Gough, I think of a golf course. Cabrillo is another one, lol. The most annoying thing I find to this day is, most streets don't have signs at most intersections, and good luck finding addresses, even on a lot of buildings, but sometimes I find the name of a street engraved in the sidewalk (strange). Decades living here and I can't believe this hasn't been resolved. Zeene, this is a fun video and I'm glad to hear you plan to do more.
Way too many weird ones to fit into one video! The lack of signs at each intersection bugs me also! Hope you are doing well :)
Longtime columnist Herb Caen often lamented the lack of street signs. They're on one corner only if you're lucky
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Another fun fact, the correct pronunciation of Dutch painter Van Gough is pronounced the same as the Street in San Francisco although you sound really pretentious if you used the same pronunciation as Gough Street.
Wow! So the world has been saying his name wrong all this time :)
Tom Pelly BTW, I just re-read my reply and hopefully it didn’t come off as sarcastic! 😰 Written is so hard sometimes without the vocal intonations and facial expressions. I meant it in a wow, mind blown kind of way. Edited for clarity!
Zeene InRealLife Just thought it was a nice lighthearted reply with no hint of sarcasm.
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How prescient you were about this being a long quarantine: it's April 20, 2021, and we are still in various stages of renormalizing, with each county open, opening, or still closed, depending on the presence of CoVid, etc. Spaced indoor seating allowed in Martinez, spaced outdoor seating in Alameda County. We will get through this!
This thing has lasted way longer than I guesstimated way back then!