We All Wrestle With God
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The more I learn about Christianity, the more my mind is blown! I converted to Catholicism over 3 years ago following the sudden death of my father and my life has completely transformed. One of the things I learned quite recently was that the original meaning of the word peace was to have things right with God. This is so beautiful and interestingly when people have asked me how I am over the last few years I unknowingly have answered ‘I’m at peace’. So beautiful and true in a world full of iniquity, duplicity and false promises. God bless you Jordan.
How is it that you get to heaven? What must you do?
@@Max-dd4ow read the god's word the bible and, Jesus was an example to imitate.
to get into heaven (Gods presence) you need to do two things" one, believe like we all have that you are a sinner....ask Jesus to forgive you and be your Savior and Mentor. Get on that path and Faithful is He who calls you, and He also will bring it to pass. 1 Thessalonians 5:24
@@Max-dd4ow
Be born again
@@Max-dd4owAll you have to do is sincerely ask Jesus Christ to forgive your sins, confess to Him that you believe He is the risen Son of God and ask Him to come into your heart, and then you will be saved. From that point on, each new day will be your personal walk with Christ. Some days will be more of a struggle to follow Christ than others but know we can never be perfect. We are covered by His blood. Living a Christian life is walking with Christ one day at a time. You will find a peace of mind and peace in your heart through Christ that we can never find on our own. Learning as much about Christ as you can and staying in prayer with Him throughout the day will help grow your walk more than anything. I hope this helps. Christ turns away no one who comes to Him.
Wrestling with God is evidence that the relationship with God is even possible. You wrestle with your brother, in play or challenge or anger, because your relationship is real. So God is happy to be there with you, and for you, whether you're happy or angry -- God can take whatever you decide to throw at him.
And he'll absolutely give as good as he gets. We do it at our own peril, but it may well be that there'll be greater peril if we don't.
Imagine not having a relationship with the one true God! Hes our creator. He is greater than my father and mother. So. I thank him! But i also respect. my parents.
Imagine believing in a God that your people did not create and that a people that hate you created one that has a weekend to a point that nobody shows up for church anymore one that has the weekend so bad Muslims will defend Christianity before the average pasty white dude. Insult Jesus in Italy next to Vatican City and nothing happened. Insult him in Dubai and you get arrested.
"God can take whatever you throw at him."
This line is going to stay with me
When you wrestle with your brother it's different, my brother exists and was there.
Peterson is a remarkable mind but he's tried to slide his expertise in psycology over to theology and it doesn't work, again because one is real and testable and the other not.
To wrestle with God can only be interpreted as overcoming the cognitive dissonance required to belive.
I have heard it translated similarly as "let God prevail" or "those who let God prevail"
So wrestle with the Lord. But when you realize He is right, let him prevail in your life. Don't fight to win, fight to learn something you didn't know before.
My thoughts exactly. Very well put
“Don’t fight to win, fight to learn something you didn’t know before” ❤😊
I really appreciate this. Especially your last sentence. Thank you ♡
Absolutely.
I digress, I think what you want is to fight to win, because even if you don't win, you still would've learned something, and if you win, you didn't win against god, but won against yourself.
"Man, sharpens man." I believe we become wiser by wrestling with God.
Yes. Iron sharpens iron
@dianemiddeler7041 Indeed. That is where the metaphors are derived from.
yes self transcendence induced by god is crucial to wisdom
@@karsenhummel9341fear of God is the beginning of wisdom
@@ChristEnlightenment from my experience the beginning of wisdom comes from humility to gods incredible power, not fear from it.
I have heard Mr. Peterson say many profound things , but this may be the most profound thing I may have ever heard ! This man may have the most beautiful mind that God hath made!
And to think if Christian's rear the Jewish bible in Hebrew they would already know this
But then every Christian would need to learn how to read Hebrew
Peterson is himself an atheist
"This man may have the most beautiful mind that God hath made!" read Augustine, Pascal, or any number of the great Christian minds of the past and they make Peterson seem like a hack
I would say he does in the present time. But we can't forget Carl Jung or Alan Watts
It is easy to give up on God. Just walk away, pay attention to the needs of the flesh, the pleasures of the flesh and ignore the Divine. I did that as a young woman, but never entirely. That's easy, its what most people do. I never could give up entirely.
It is harder to wrestle with God. Don't give up on God.. don't give up on faith and trust, even if God makes you miserable. Even when the world and your fate doesn't make sense. Even if you can't see what the good news is supposed to be (I still don't understand what the good news really is.)
. I've learned that in my own life. I told God I'm not giving up on him, after my husband died, my heart is broken... I have so many questions, but I'll be damned if I give on God. I was miserable, angry ..but I love God too much to walk away, this time. NOT again. Someday I'll know why God couldn't heal my husband. Maybe I won't. I'll love God, none the less.
Your perseverance is admirable, may God pour his love and mercy upon you ❤☦️
So you can manage to love a god that would set you on fire for not believing he exists, huh? I doubt you understand what love means. You accept the god of the bible. You don't love him.
@@wesleywashington1251God ❤
@@Sophie-PPowerful Amen. 🙏🙏🙏🔥🔥🔥💯💯💯
The answer to your Question is this: " Tell yourself right now that you already have Peace right now. I mean, there Peace is what is at the end of a battle, a war, or a wrestle. That's you know that you chose you...
I'm looking forward with great anticipation for your new book to come out about that, sir.
Character & spiritual growth
petersssssson is the serpent which does decieve people about God and Jesus and The Holy Spirit.
petersssssson says The Holy Bible is True yet he has not Professed The Name of Jesus but one time, he is a lying hypocrite.
I wrestle with God every day and it usually ends with him saying "are you finished"?, lol.
The fight one should have with God should not be a fight of destruction but a fight to understand remember when you were in school the teacher would say something and you would ask why ask God why
@@cohenlabe1You have no authority on the matter. Nor does JP.
@@skiphoffenflaven8004 🤣🤣🤣🤣
@@skiphoffenflaven8004No one is portraying themselves as an authority on this..... I'm sorry you feel offended but you're arguing against something that no one said
I've thought about this a bit, too. People who have decided not to believe have stopped engaging with God, but people who have decided to just believe and not worry about it further have also stopped engaging with God. Both decisions are, imo, not the right way to interact with religion
I, personally, when felt in despair, said to God: “I will not let go until you bless me.” Life becomes a struggle at times, ask God for help, pray, be patient, do not bend over evil.
And God, Who sees everything will aide you, He will comfort you, put your trust in Him. Wrestle with Him, and He will bless you 🙏✨🙏✨
The Wiseman eventually submits to God!
A slave listens and does as the master says because of force a loved one listens does because he loves to be chosen you have to love God. If God wanted you as his slave you would have been made an angel with out choice and that is the difference between Islam and Israel
@@cohenlabe1you made yourself to god’s equals and worship your desires like idol worshippers. You went so far to say that you killed god and all sins are gone with him.
You will pay for this sin on judgment day.
@@cohenlabe1even the angels were given choice, if only once with complete knowledge and understanding of God and His will
@@internetdude1233 show me chapter and verse in the Jewish bible
@@cohenlabe1Satan (al-shaytan) and co. (i.e. fallen angels aka demons).
GOD has definitely blessed this man!
I really dont want to be part of those who wrestle with God
Jacob, and you , are wrestling with God. Surrender..to His will. Give Him the Glory, Power, and Praise forever and ever Amen and Amen.!
1. Wrestling as in trying to understand not just blind faith
2. In Jewish/ Israel understanding an angel is a messenger of God the word in Hebrew for angel is malloch literally messager. So if I fight the messager I fight the one who sent it. 3.Blind fath is okay but not good enough to be chosen
also have to say when we get to wrestle with God in our lives living in this world when all is said and done and hey some of us accept God's call a decade or 20 years before our own deaths. And that is amazing. And at the time when we die and we die greatly in a happy death, many of those who die a happy death are called to do even greater things alongside of God, fighting against the demons we in this world face. That is what my friend and I do ever since he died. With the Glory of God always and forever amen. Thanks Jordan Peterson, you helped me in late 2019 but my best friend helped me even more, I think you are literally the psychiatrist speaker of my best friend.
You are really helping me thanks Jordan
Well that explains everything.
Another meaning to Israel is “Let God Prevail.” Therefore, the people of Israel are those who have wrestled with God and allowed him to prevail in their lives.
Good luck interpreting that one, good doctor...
I don't wrestle with God. I try my best to go along with his will. I have turned all my worries over to him and I let him take care of my problems. Whatever happens it is his will and I say okay.
I was reading a book about Abraham Isaac Jacob it was one of the only two times I've heard God's audible voice and he spoke about my children I wanted more but being a mother is more than I'd ever trust me with
Amen ❤
Go JP! Keep growing in the Most High God!
Jacobs baptism. Worth remembering Jacob was very worried he might die the next day. He was terrified of going home to see his brother. Jacob wanted that blessing and he wasn't going to let go without it.
Also it happened in a river. Water is always the place things will probably die and when people live it's a miracle. Baptism, Noah, Jonah, twice with Moses etc.
Even in creation, chaos is the water. Noah's flood is the reversal of creation.
Jacob never was “baptized.” He wasn’t a gentile/Catholic. He was a Jew and will always be a Jew. His descendants are even referred to as “Jacob” in a reference to the collective Nation of Israel (still in exile or within the modern State of Israel).
Who told you JACOB was “baptized”?
With in the meaning of united or together, not against. End fight is a better word them wrestle, as far as I concerned.
The Magnificent Defeat by Frederick Beuchner is an amazing book on the topic of wrestling with God.
In looking more deeply at the meaning of the word Israel, Abarim feels it is about Jacob becoming a receptacle in which God can be received and retained. I love this more than the wrestling, though there is no doubt we wrestle as we grope for understanding our true selves and God's presence in our lives. Such poetry! That is why I love Jordan.....soul of a poet.❤
if hypocrisy was a human being this man sure make a good candidate!
A lot of wrestling with only one winner, as HE takes you up a notch.
Humility, acceptance and fortitude. You're going to need a lot of these if you decide you're going to wrestle with God, else you get your hip dislocated.
Life; living in full experience.
Joshua1:9🙌
Yes,he always wins,SO HERE WAS OR IS OUR LEARNING.
It is said that the angel whom he fought with was the angel of his brother Asav whom he fought with. (Explanation: Each angel has their time where they sing to G-D, Jacob held the angel down delaying the angel, the age then bestowed upon the name Yisroel/ Isreal to Jacob)
I love hos biblical and mythical psychology stuff
Good thing he's good wrestler he should go for belt w.w.e champion, stay blessed 🙌 😇 🙏
Too deep for me tonight. Just want to smoke joint & reax👍 I'll come back to this video👍
real question. should I buy the book?
No other human physically wrestled with god from morning to dawn except Jacob
I already like the way you articulate your thoughts, and yet I am once again struck by your words. Not often do I feel like this. To be honest it's a lil scary. I know of
Yeah I got it what it means to wrestle with God, sure!
To consider that we surrender after wrestling with God even though he slows us down and we let him fight our battles for us that would be discernment for us to be amused by
استغفر الله ،تعالى عن مايصفون
You will only wrestle with God until you meet Him nailed to the cross. Just as He surrendered to the shame of the cross, so must we. The wrestling ends there.
Didn't know that is what Israel meant. Always enlightening to hear your messages. Gives me a better understanding. Thank you ❤
Genesis 32: 23-33
Maybe it means wrestle in the sense of interacting, becoming involved with, training with as a sparring partner (as wrestling is known to strengthen one for battle), and that God is one whom you challenge and who challenges you.
I believe there’s more to the story it’s those of us who have decided that the tenants of the Bible are our responsibility… We wrestle with it every day… Because the world is not like us… But we are put here to love the world… God is not a cerebral God he is a relational God
note: you are wrestling with god not against god.the purpose of the struggle is to work together with god to become what he wants you to become.excessive pride may cause injury leading us to humility where god can now use an bless us.most of are struggles with god is about bringing our own will in subjection to his will.making a demand of god is futile unless what you are asking for is something he wants to give you anyway.if you want a great blessing be prepared for humiliating circumstances as a primer to recieve what you want.
Im wrestling even now 😭😭😭💪😊
AMEN
It’s not about wrestling with God…. It’s about wrestling with yourself in your belief in God and wondering why it’s so hard! The answer is the natural man your trying to overcome for your creator.
Wrestling w/God helps us attain Soul Growth & Compassionate Progression
I think the shocking thing in the biblical text is that fact that Israel (Jacob), prevailed. He won the fight.
So, he didn't just wrestled, he prevailed.
But, what does that mean?
What does it mean to wrestle with God?
And, at what point did Jacob prevail?
I don't know
better question is what was he wrestling about? (Jacob wrestled with powerful angel)he wanted something...what was that he wanted so bad?? he wanted from the angel a blessing, because it meant so much to him, he risked his life," that" was so pleasing to God that his faith in God and that God exists and he is a rewarder to the one who cares to find him.
Being a best friend and cooperating with God is far far better, more efficient, expressive, unique, meangingful, creative, kinda just more of everything good literally, if that makes sense.
I like Tel Aviv. And that's all I have to say about Israel. Well, I also like Ofra Haza and Miri Mesika. 😊
Father Seraphim Rose: “Atheism, true ‘existential’ atheism burning with hatred of a seemingly unjust or unmerciful God, is a spiritual state; it is a real attempt to grapple with the true God…”
Isaiah 55:8-9
For a better understanding of why this wrestling occurs.
This seems to be 1 reason of many !
To wrestle with God on a secular level is to wrestle with the ideology you grew up with. To very thoroughly test it and throw away the dross. To get rid of what no longer serves you and others.
Who dare rustle with his creator. This is GOD, not zues or Oden
True
It's because, sometimes it's difficult to do the right thing and so you literally have a mental fight with yourself trying to come up with lame reasons why U shouldn't do it and then you do it anyway because you know it's the right thing to do.... Know what I mean??
Jacob started out wrestling, but his hip was dislocated, causing him to cling just to keep upright.
Just one story describing God as an angel.
And if you wish to know the key to overcoming like jacob overcame? It is weeping. Yes you read correct.
One of the minor prophets describes jacob as weeping while holding onto the angel.
King david practiced this alot.
All jokes aside, lacrimology is ancient.
Abraham 'wrestled' with God over sodom and gomorrah.
Jordan Peterson please read “Blood Wars” by Jonathan Mercedes Level up knowledge!
I think the term wrestling with God refers to Israel's relationship with him. A cycle of disobeying and repentance. Israel was destroyed and brought back up multiple times throughout the Old Testament.
This is a bit of a misnomer. Israelites are the people of the house of Israel. Israel's name changed after he wrestled with God but much earlier than the Israelites becoming a nation.
We also note that the Elohim were the dominant group of the Space Alien Conquerors over much of the Mid East, from the Red Sea north through into Mesopotamia, in an area that extended from Greece across northern India over to modern day Iran.
The Elohim empire, at one point, was centered in a very large city that the boss, El-Yon, caused to be created. It was the City of El-Yon, named in Canaanite, Bab -El-Yon (City of El-Yon), that we call Babylon. It was here that the Elohim had their controlling structures placed, including their main airports, and the generation devices for their elecro-radiative bubble (a force field intended to control radiation levels) called a GANZ in the proto-hebrew of those days.
But what if it were not only the Khazarians making religions out of ‘source material’ that originated with the Space Alien Conquerors? If such a general condition, that is the Kali Yuga levels of Galactic Center Emanations being a such a low level that the human mind naturally favored a religion interpretation on all of reality, it would be expected that other humans would also be doing this.
Can we find other examples? What would they look like? Are there patterns, clues, that we can use in our search? Yes, turns out there are patterns that can be teased out of human history that can point us at this same behavior.
The anonymity of the authors of this material is important to its interpretation, and its creation. This is also a referentially important marker for these writings. Remember, none of the books in the Bible, or its Torah source, are attributed to any author. So Job did not write the Book of Job. That sort of thing. We have no idea who wrote any of the books in the Torah/Old Testament, unlike, as an instance, the Talmud. It was not important to the Space Alien Conquerors that the human scribes, their slaves, be known for their work of recording their master’s pronouncements. This is not really the way that humans operate organically. We like the attention from other humans of being able to say, “I wrote that”…BUT our Space Alien masters did not see us as individuals so much as disposable parts of their environment. So no attribution was even a consideration.
Other clues include the actual language of the book. Is it filled with repetitions of ‘lord’, ‘lords’, ‘god’, ‘gods’, or even ‘El’, ‘Elohim’? Does it have repeated differentiations between categories of ‘gods’, such as ‘most high’, ‘arch-angel’, ‘satan’? Does it contain linguistic pointers to such as ‘baal’? Is human sacrifice discussed? Are there extensive discussion of rituals? Especially rituals involving the ‘cleansing’ or the ‘anointing’ of the human body? Does it have material about the ‘forbidden’ foods, and other substances? What about how to prepare the body after death, including ritual removal of certain organs, most notably in the abdomen?
All of these are clues pointing to the patterns of misinterpretation of Space Alien source material as being religious guidelines. These clues are derived from the real world example of the Talmud and Torah. We suspect that other materials, also misinterpreted as religious sources, exist in human history. Do they?
As we suspect, it seems they do. When we search (without AI for the moment as it is wokonian & that will be misleading), we can locate several instances of JUST this pattern appearing. In fact, we find it right off in a book that is the most copied and translated book in human history with far more translations than the Bible.
We find this pattern to also be replicated in other cultures with a similar situation in which one book (Book A) is acting as a base for religion, while a another book (Book B) from the same culture is a key to the correct reading of Book A, but is ignored as Book A is definitively defined to the culture as a book about religion and it can be nothing else. Very similar situation as the Torah being held as a religious text, rather than a book of rules from the Elohim (the Space Aliens Conquerors). We find that this pattern is repeated in various levels of complexity across several cultures and languages.
The smart man, looking for material misinterpreted as a religion will start where religions are so dense that you can’t walk a block without tripping over one, that is, India. And as we are after old misinterpretationsbb of material, we went to Sanskrit.
We are smart men. It was easy to find the first, then many examples of potential Space Alien materials being misinterpreted. Sanskrit is replete with such. They are spilling out all over. Same with Tamil. A lot of material exists to be examined in this new light.
Choosing a very prominent example, and applying the filter to it that it was totally wrongly translated, and some of the context of the material would be altered by this mistranslation, it can be instantly seen, that is the very first line of this first chosen target among many, that this is NOT a religious instruction, but rather is part of a manual on how to Fly your Vimana.
It actually is a ‘how to connect (your mind) to Space Alien devices’ manual. It is not flying specific, and does not deal with the aerodynamics, nor flight capability of the Vimana, so much as it delves into instructing humans how to work the Mind-2-Machine interface that is used to, not only, fly the Vimana, but also to control all the Space Alien Conquerors base technology. As an instance, the technology includes what we would label as ‘air traffic control’ which was automated, but was programmed by directed thought control. It was one of these devices that is at the center of the bad misinterpretation of the Tower of Babel (Bab El-Yon’s control center) story. The reality may have been much more akin to a global slave revolt on the part of Humanity. This was just preceding the time when the Elohim finally left Earth.
The first example that I examined was chosen for specifics of its presence in history, and that it met my search criteria. As noted, its first line, when translated without a religious focus, is clearly part of an instruction manual. As much of the Sanskrit source is fragmentary, as with the Torah/Old Testament, it can be presumed that this alone indicates that we have a limited understanding of a remnant of a larger work. If read in that light, and with exact, non religious, translation of the words involved, we get the line that says, “these instructions, are about controlling the activation of the Vortex”. The rest of this book continues with explicit instructions on how to ‘meld the mind (to the) Vortex (of power/control)’ .
We have the original language, and it is easily seen that the religious interpretation is wrong. Very much like learning the “El” is not a Hebrew word, thus is not the Hebrew word for ‘god’, thus the Torah, and Old Testament, as is commonly understood now, are mistranslations that are misleading as to both context and content of the book. In my first Sanskrit target search, the wording is very parallel to the situation of the word ‘god’ being put where the actual word is ‘El’. Here we have various translations of the word as being ‘disturbances’, ‘anxiety’, ‘stress’, ‘tension’, and more, when the original is rightly translated as ‘vortex’, or alternatively ‘whirlpool’. This latter is how the humans characterized the experience of the ‘bonding’ with the Mind2Machine interface, that is, likening it to ‘plunging into a whirlpool’. Other impressions applied to this experience in this, and other, similar volumes, include language about ‘maelstrom’, and about violent reactions (and how to avoid them) within the mind when connected to the interface. When you first encounter this material, you will not have a clue. Much of this material is, as with the Bible, now a major influence on our civilization’s development.
This language is now badly translated and interpreted to point to avoiding ‘demons’, and ‘spirits’. These and other words have been applied when the source Sanskrit is discussing how to do directed thought into the interface without damaging either the work at hand, or yourself. It is from these types of descriptions at a technical level, badly translated, and misinterpreted, that the modern descriptions of ‘hell’ arise.
It turns out that the ‘directing thought’ part of the procedure is actually quite simple, and, as with all kinds of simple things, doing it wrong was quite deadly. These volumes also expose that training is absolutely required for everyone even attempting to use the Mind2Machine interface, and that there are many ethnic groups that are incapable of merging with the Space Alien control mechanism. Thus the whole ‘GMO human’ effort on the part of the Elohim, and other sub groups of the Space Alien Conquerors.
The smart technically minded person, given a new work assignment that involves operating a new piece of equipment, will examine the operations manual for the warnings. If there are a predominance of warnings to operations instructions, it is easy to judge the risks involved.
In our operations manual, newly discovered disguised as a religious practices text, we find that just over 75% of the presentation is warnings. Hmmm….pretty risky stuff.
Let me introduce you to the word "All". Amazingly other languages have this word.
The word "All" is an accumulative total. Therefore let me introduce you to the word "Total". Which is the Whole of a set. Therefore let me introduce you to the word "Whole". Whereas we can reference as "Holy".
As there are "All Cars" and "All People". There is only One "All of the Alls". The Reality.
The Reality is the Union of Subjective Reality with Objective Reality.
@@Ordinal_Yoda I don’t understand. You
I say the words bellow are accidental or intentional mistranslation for “space aliens”
“All Mighty” “Most High”
‘lord’, ‘lords’, ‘god’, ‘gods’, or even ‘El’, ‘Elohim’
‘gods’ ‘arch-angel’ ‘satan’
@@carlsonbench1827 The Laws of Motion are Onnipresent and Omnipotent.
And everything was made for Real.
Imagine being such a Chad that you wrestle with God and, even though you lose, God still thinks you're good enough to be the father of His followers.
God bless you, brother. I am praying for you and your family. You are a blessing to so many and myself. All of these attacks you are having to go through are going to increase your faith even more when you come out on the other side. God bless and protect you and your family always.
Chosen people? By who? Themselfs?
YHVH.
It seems like it. Chosen by themselves.
The last line was ❤️🔥
Amen. We are trained by Himself because we are in the realm battle
It actually means to be in somekind of state or situation..
The explanation given in the bible is that because Jacob was with (sarita) god (el) his name will be Israel.
The english translation is a bit problematic.
This is a common verb in hebrew.
For example, if you are in a state of mourning, than you are "saruy (in a state of) be (in) evel (grief or mourning).
I hope this clears things up a bit.
Submit to God. God wants whats best for you. God is whats best for you. So God wants you to lisyen to him because he loves you . Submit to God. Its whats right
It is clear in the text. The text says "Angel of YHWH". This figure is mentioned elsewhere as YHWH Himself, meaning the "Angel" is also God, but they are one being. Also, the word "angel" in Hebrew doesn't mean angel, it means messenger, which includes angels. So the correct translation would be "Messenger of YHWH", and when we include the fact that the Messenger is YHWH Himself, we can conclude that the Messenger is none other than Christ.
not really because God has many angels that are serving him and this one send was of the lower rank than Christ . the name YHWH was read Jehovah and we should glorify this holy name.
@@mrazik131 "Christ" is not a rank. And this angel wasn't an angel at all. As I said, in Hebrew, the word angel meant messenger. So it was the messenger of the Lord. And that messenger was also called Lord many times. So if this messenger is God, we can conclude safely that it is Jesus Christ before His incarnation.
Is real
I find it sooo weird that people read these texts and then live their lives based on them. I became a non believer before my confirmation BTW.
For the algorithm
Amazing suit, inspirational man, intelligent speach, man I admire you Jordan
wrong it means prince of GOD
I don't see you walking with a limp, which God did you wrestle with? Most importantly which God, did I wrestle with? I as well, am In no ways walking with a limp. What are you talking about? Dr/Professor Jordan Peterson?
People wrestle with the extraterrestrial, Yahweh.
The real God, the Divine Mind in which everything exists, does not wrestle.
He does not inflict any kind of pain or anguish, but leaves you to find Him in your own way and at your own pace.
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You can also break the name ISRAEL down with the ones who started the 12 tribes with God.
Isaac, Sarah. Rebehah, Abraham, Esau, Leah. Now Jacob is there also with his name being changed to have the initials of everyone. ISRAEL!
It’s been an education and a privilege to watch this man’s spiritual journey.
Does it mean that the Israelites did fight those whom were sent by God? The prophets of God? The opposite of submission to God?
Interestingly enough whenever I read the Bible, I replace the word Israel with my own name, and somehow it seems to fit
If you have a relationship with God, occasionally you will wrestle with him. There's no true wrestling unless there's a solid relationship behind it.
Is also interesting that they are the number 1 producers of guns.
Jordan Peterson works for The Daily Wire, a Jewish organization, if you didn't know.
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🤦do not think doc...feel...close your eyes and ears and open your mind and heart to Jesus...God bless U all 🙏
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Wow what a god ly thing 😮
Not quite - there is a critical element that this is missing. Israel is not just to wrestle with God, there is a critical other half to the word. It is a wrestling through which God prevails. So everyone isn't effectually wrestling with God - it's those whose wrestle is allowing God to prevail in the world. That was Israel's calling and covenant.
Wrong. Just trying to sound smart. Jacob - later named Israel - didn't wrestle with God, but with an angel.
God didn't break no hip, silly.
And it doesn't mean to fight, it comes from the word שררה in Hebrew (I'm an orthodox Israeli Jew) which is another word for reign. As in reign with God, who reigns it all.
The plot thickens...
Israel pushed to have Jesus crucified. God knew ahead of time and they still wrestle today. Goes too deep to explain further in this little space, but Jesus is God and He will and is bringing them back to Himself (God). 🙏♥️
he wrestles with a homeless vagrant he meets by the river, just horsin around. he finds out in the midst of their play when the man asks him if he knows he who is. Jacob obviously doesn't and the man eventually tells him something to the affect of "I am God and you are Israel." Jacob freaks out and runs away. it happens in Genesis