Update: They released an emergency patch this morning, rolling sparks doesnt even do decent damage now, sparks are the worst weapons in the game Im really not happy that they made this change. Not only does it completely invalidate this video, but now perfumeres arent even going to be that fun in PvE.
I mean it was a 1 shot in pvp. a literal, honest to God one shot. It had to be nerfed. Sadly they did not just nerf it, they N E R F E D it old Blizzard style. They took your big nice sword and gave you back a pocket knife. Shit balancing in Elden Wrong, nothing new.
Fire spark and the poison one are still viable in pve, the pvp viability almost doesn’t exist however you can get good damage on charge attacks on the fire spark. The other ones should have been more tame than fire spark for sake of balance but they should have gotten a damage buff
Dont think I have seen it hit for more than 1600. Maybe if the new dlc version (Carian Sovereignty?) true combos, you might hit 2300+ but I dont think it will 1 shot a 60 vig morgott runed host. Never managed to land it, personally.
Bad take; they're just niche and have a different play style than melee weapons. Think Frozen needle. Lower damage but exceptional defensive capabilities, it's run and gun. Outlast the enemy. Your gameplay looks like you think they're daggers tbh. And yeah, rolling sparks needed that nerf. It's also a patch so noobs don't steamroll the game, they'll revisit the bottles in the future no doubt.
speaking about frozen needle, there's a greatsword that has a proyectile on its heavy attack, it's called "Lizard Greatsword" but in comparison with frozen needle, it's infusable, does decent damage, seems it's the longest greatsword in the game, and finally; it does strike/pierce, instead of the standard/pierce damage.
@@WeeabooPocky once my frozen needle w/ offhand carian sorcery sword high wears off I'll be grinding that out, looks like a ton of wacky build potential
The running heavy attack was my favourite but ever since the new patch it either hits once for crap damage or misses? Before it hit like 3 times. And I didnt even use the lightning ash cheese.
they really did remove the one thing that made this useable huh. it was broken, but they didnt need to kneecap it this hard. could have buffed the base damage at least...
@@lazysylph3312 We all have the same exploits = Balanced. Plus EVERYTHING can one shot or two shot us. PVP stays ruining the fun in Fromsoft games, that shit can go.
@@Kn1ghtborne that sounds like a parody of an argument, from my point of view. I am fully aware that I can also abuse the same exploit, the point is that we shouldn’t have to. Also, there is an unbelievable difference between getting two hit by big spell/greatsword, and getting shredded to death by a bit of powder that isn’t telegraphed. Edit: I wanna say that I agree that fromsoft should stay in their lane with PvE if they’re going to neglect basic design principles while forcing us to engage in PvP if we want to play with another. I like playing soulslike games solo, but mostly because online implementation sucks. I’ve been playing the seamless co op mod with my partners and it has been a breath of fresh air.
welcome back dude :D now that dlc dropped, are you interested in changing your drip, or gonna keep being a knight set enjoyer??? i'm guessing you'll at least change the headband for the miquella one.
I'll still be wearing the knight set, the oathseeker will make an appearance from time to time, seeing as its almost just a palette swapped knights armor
@@SgtJager00 oathseeker is a nice set, are you going to use it with or without leda's chest piece?? My favourite armors from the dlc are the black knight, solitude, rellana and rakshasa. I swear dude rakshasa reminds me a lot to alonne and alonne's knight sets. Elden Ring is DS2 II confirmed.
They still work really well for me in pve. use them right and you can pretty much stun lock and kill before they can do much and on big bosses rolling sparks still works really good.
Don't boost dmg but boost buildup. This would make them fun and relatively unique weapon that would be great to run offhand. Finally give the perfume armor a passive that effects perfume bottles.
now they've been nerfed into being absolutely dogshit they should have just nerfed the damage build up when you spammed at the ground. I melted countless overleveled phantoms with the madness ones before they rightfully nerfed them there was literally no counter to rolling sparks.
@peppers1616 If you disagree, that's fine. No need to be disrespectful about it. The damage isn't terrible, but I don't think perfume bottles are good in pve because the damage, stance damage, and ability to stagger are too low for the slow speed, and they have deceptively short range. Rolling sparks struggles against targets that are small or move around a lot. The video above already shows why they're not good in pvp, so I won't explain that. They need a buff in some way, probably to their speed and/or range
@@solderingiron1008 I apologize, you are right, I shouldn't have responded that way nor used those words. I have been using perfumes in PvE and didn't find it particularly difficult so it felt balanced but they could do with a buff. Regardind PvP, I feel like you can make almost anything work since most of the time pver's are not really ready for an invader showing up.
@peppers1616 It's all good! That's a fair point about pvers generally being unprepared, but they still have many advantages like summons (which can be overleveled), no friendly fire, and flask count. There are more viable options that are more fun to use in my opinion
Update:
They released an emergency patch this morning, rolling sparks doesnt even do decent damage now, sparks are the worst weapons in the game
Im really not happy that they made this change. Not only does it completely invalidate this video, but now perfumeres arent even going to be that fun in PvE.
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I mean it was a 1 shot in pvp. a literal, honest to God one shot. It had to be nerfed. Sadly they did not just nerf it, they N E R F E D it old Blizzard style. They took your big nice sword and gave you back a pocket knife. Shit balancing in Elden Wrong, nothing new.
Fire spark and the poison one are still viable in pve, the pvp viability almost doesn’t exist however you can get good damage on charge attacks on the fire spark. The other ones should have been more tame than fire spark for sake of balance but they should have gotten a damage buff
Bro you think I WON'T cook? Lol just watch and see
"decent"
My brother in Christ you must be baiting
Anyone who thought doing 2700+ damage to another player wasn't a bug, really hasnt been paying attention to balance updates.
Doesn’t carian grandeur still do that unbuffed? I could be wrong
Dont think I have seen it hit for more than 1600. Maybe if the new dlc version (Carian Sovereignty?) true combos, you might hit 2300+ but I dont think it will 1 shot a 60 vig morgott runed host. Never managed to land it, personally.
And they nerfed our fireworks on the 4th of July. Japanese company still mad about WW2 no doubt.
Bad take; they're just niche and have a different play style than melee weapons. Think Frozen needle. Lower damage but exceptional defensive capabilities, it's run and gun. Outlast the enemy. Your gameplay looks like you think they're daggers tbh. And yeah, rolling sparks needed that nerf. It's also a patch so noobs don't steamroll the game, they'll revisit the bottles in the future no doubt.
speaking about frozen needle, there's a greatsword that has a proyectile on its heavy attack, it's called "Lizard Greatsword" but in comparison with frozen needle, it's infusable, does decent damage, seems it's the longest greatsword in the game, and finally; it does strike/pierce, instead of the standard/pierce damage.
@@WeeabooPocky once my frozen needle w/ offhand carian sorcery sword high wears off I'll be grinding that out, looks like a ton of wacky build potential
Their "Defensive play" is incredibly shit too, same reasons as in the video. You either haven't fought the right people or are being misleading
Finally a new video from our deer friend jagertan 🦌
We got sgt Jakarta editing before GTA 6
Jurgen's back, day ruined.
The running heavy attack was my favourite but ever since the new patch it either hits once for crap damage or misses? Before it hit like 3 times. And I didnt even use the lightning ash cheese.
The deer is right people
THEY ALWAYS HAVE BEEN.. the majority of Randos in CO OP can't even put a dent in any boss that I get summoned in.
it is really nice to see you back jager
Thank you man!
Should’ve been a deathblight perfume.
they really did remove the one thing that made this useable huh. it was broken, but they didnt need to kneecap it this hard. could have buffed the base damage at least...
Usea- you cannot fathom the amount of times I was oneshot by these things. Followed up by a insult to injury true combo triple swift slash.
@@UrVidaGameMum GitGud
If gitgud means we need to outperform players of equal skill, while they are using exploits, sign me the fuck off
@@lazysylph3312 We all have the same exploits = Balanced. Plus EVERYTHING can one shot or two shot us. PVP stays ruining the fun in Fromsoft games, that shit can go.
@@Kn1ghtborne that sounds like a parody of an argument, from my point of view. I am fully aware that I can also abuse the same exploit, the point is that we shouldn’t have to. Also, there is an unbelievable difference between getting two hit by big spell/greatsword, and getting shredded to death by a bit of powder that isn’t telegraphed.
Edit: I wanna say that I agree that fromsoft should stay in their lane with PvE if they’re going to neglect basic design principles while forcing us to engage in PvP if we want to play with another. I like playing soulslike games solo, but mostly because online implementation sucks. I’ve been playing the seamless co op mod with my partners and it has been a breath of fresh air.
welcome back dude :D
now that dlc dropped, are you interested in changing your drip, or gonna keep being a knight set enjoyer???
i'm guessing you'll at least change the headband for the miquella one.
I'll still be wearing the knight set, the oathseeker will make an appearance from time to time, seeing as its almost just a palette swapped knights armor
@@SgtJager00 oathseeker is a nice set, are you going to use it with or without leda's chest piece??
My favourite armors from the dlc are the black knight, solitude, rellana and rakshasa. I swear dude rakshasa reminds me a lot to alonne and alonne's knight sets.
Elden Ring is DS2 II confirmed.
Another thing I like about the poison bottle is it inflicts deadly poison too which I noticed freaks people out
They still work really well for me in pve. use them right and you can pretty much stun lock and kill before they can do much and on big bosses rolling sparks still works really good.
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@@matth464 yessir!!!
Yall heard it here first folks: sargento jager doesn't believe in smelling nice 🤨
Don't boost dmg but boost buildup. This would make them fun and relatively unique weapon that would be great to run offhand. Finally give the perfume armor a passive that effects perfume bottles.
This is why i chose to keep my pc disconnected until i beat the game
Jager back >:3 ❤
now they've been nerfed into being absolutely dogshit
they should have just nerfed the damage build up when you spammed at the ground. I melted countless overleveled phantoms with the madness ones before they rightfully nerfed them
there was literally no counter to rolling sparks.
Agreed they nerfed them into oblivion
I just lost my dawwwwg
The nerf was good
Unfortunately, after the fixes, they're not even good in pve either
Works good for me I can stun lock and kill most enemies before they even have a chance to attack and on big bosses rolling sparks still works.
What a dogshit take. They're great in pve. I'm sure you can make them work in invasion if you really want.
@peppers1616 If you disagree, that's fine. No need to be disrespectful about it. The damage isn't terrible, but I don't think perfume bottles are good in pve because the damage, stance damage, and ability to stagger are too low for the slow speed, and they have deceptively short range. Rolling sparks struggles against targets that are small or move around a lot. The video above already shows why they're not good in pvp, so I won't explain that.
They need a buff in some way, probably to their speed and/or range
@@solderingiron1008 I apologize, you are right, I shouldn't have responded that way nor used those words.
I have been using perfumes in PvE and didn't find it particularly difficult so it felt balanced but they could do with a buff. Regardind PvP, I feel like you can make almost anything work since most of the time pver's are not really ready for an invader showing up.
@peppers1616 It's all good! That's a fair point about pvers generally being unprepared, but they still have many advantages like summons (which can be overleveled), no friendly fire, and flask count. There are more viable options that are more fun to use in my opinion