@@datninjahd9905 Idk if you've tried high rounding in cold war but I have and in my experience. Yea the revives are technically infinite like you said BUT on the other hand if you keep downing over and over in the higher rounds, it becomes infinitely more difficult to continue crafting revives. That's the way I remember it. Dont get me wrong I think 3 self revive limit is a better system but that didn't make the lack of that system in cold war worse imo.
They need to remove the armor plates. It’s absolutely useless and only causes a distraction in an otherwise high intensity game mode. Just increase the durability of Jugg.
I definitely feel like armor plates need to be improved so it can fit into zombies better, also they are adding arguments to perks, field upgrades, etc. which will change how the perk works like giving jugg dying wish
@@DaUnstoppableGameron one hand it is more useful than the shield on the other shields are a lot cooler and I dont necessarily mind taking a hit from the front while being invincible for a few hits from the back and get to have a super cool shield.
@@Blessed_Souls Putting plates in the vest feels like a chore rather than a mechanic, not to mention that to craft more plates you have to go into a menu.
- Only start with pistol - Points per hit instead of per kill - Knuckle crack when PAPing - Remove armor plates That's all they need to give old zombies fans almost everything they want. Honestly mantling should be removed too as it gives you too many escape options against zombies, but its so integrated into the engine/game they probably realistically couldn't at this point.
@@nikkmann149 I agree with everything you said but I think starting with a pistol should be a optional thing since their is now a camo grind in zombies and you have e no guarantee that you’ll get it in a play through
Here’s two changes I’d make to that: 1. Keep loadouts. The mystery box and wall buys are now more useful in bo6 than they were in Cold War. You won’t want to just keep your loadout now… unless you are camo grinding. So now it’s perfect. 2. Removing armor should be paired with removing super sprinters. Super sprinters simply exist to keep you from being invincible because of armor. Super sprinters completely ruin routes and quick thinking. You can’t remove one or the other without it ending up being trash. Need to remove both or none at all.
Sadly as a hardcore zombies player Cold War was a disappointment to me. The biggest thing that killed it was how they changed the core progression of zombies. I feel like loadouts killed that progression. The starting pistol and having bad weapons in zombies was a core part that made the wonder weapons and good weapons that much more special. Now every weapon is OP and even starting with the pistol is too strong. I am still cautiously optimistic for the mode but I miss the old formula.
I don’t think starting pistols will ever come back again, but I’m glad they at least brought back custom loadouts for all mystery box and wall buy weapons.
I definitely disagree because the pistol was perfectly fine killing zombies until you had points to buy a wall weapon. People act like the pistol was so difficult to survive until round 2 where you had enough points to buy a wall weapon which were decent in every game. Early rounds have never been hard in any game except the very first zombies. The only different was high rounds were harder in general in which case you already had a decent weapon from the box except on the rare occasion in which you got nothing but snipers or you miss managed your points. The only difference is you can pick a weapon that you enjoy playing with and it can be customized to your play style which makes the whole experience more enjoyable not really easier. As long as you train zombies is easy. Train and kill, train and kill. Some weapons are just slower not harder.
The fact that zombies will be online only is stupid and unnecessary if someone is attempting to make it to round 100 and their Internet dies around round 99 that would be sad
And for us constantly stuck in shadowbans lobbies because of crybaby reporters, we can't even get into zombies at all. I've sat in queue for 2hrs at one point trying to get into a game
@@lalter_which is dumb because Cold War zombies basically felt like multiplayer but with zombies which will cater to mp and warzone players but not the core zombies fanbase
What's cray about you guys saying that. It literally Has all of bo3 things but more. This formula is still zombies so it's wild you think it's so different
The fact zombies just became a "level up your guns to use WZ and Multiplayer" game mode, just saddens me and make me not excited for the game Saying this is "Cold War Zombies but better" does not give me anymore hope, what BO6 needed to be was LESS Cold War Loadouts, points per kill, field upgrades, armor plates all has to go, they make the game way too easy, I want zombie to be a survival mode, not a grindy kill as manay zombies until you get bored mode
It was always kill zombies till you get bored mode. Sure, the og maps were harder because less tools available but that also meant you got set up faster. Plus you can still play without interacting with all the extra stuff you don't like
@@rhettbutler5397"You don't has to interact with the extra stuff" That loterally not an argument, they designed and balanced the game around these features, and basically means abandoning coop. The different between Cold War Zombies and the OG is that you never get bored because you'll probably die before getting to that point, no matter how set up you were, you could still get easily overwhelmed and die quickly, Cold War give people so many chances to get out of sticky situations
@@rhettbutler5397 Literally didn't even read what I typed and I really doubt you play the og zombies You just really wanted an excuse to call me bad and make skill issue jokes
I miss point farming and maps that didn't force your hand into doing the story easter eggs. WAW-BO3 zombies was the best and I hope they will bring maps that will go based off of the themes and linear gameplay from those games once in a while.
Online only is due to the gobble gums. As soon as you use one, it will be removed from your inventory. In BO3, you could “dashboard” and keep all your gobble gums.
@@TheRealR500 oh facts. I know BO2 is not perfect. Lots of bugs and glitches. I’m talking more about just the flow of the game and the maps. They just feel different than this. It’s hard to explain.
@@Jeffreymaxwelllhow long can you chew a gum for? At first it’s good but after 5-6 bites it goes stale and loses flavor. It’s the same gum but it taste the same because of how overchewed it is. Same thing applies to zombies
Probably we will never get those things back unfortunately, if this game is looking like cold war, that means that zombies will die easily for every weapon so, not only WW or traps, easy high rounds coming again...
I'm a big fan of the new save system. I live in an area where if it storms, the power is almost guaranteed to go out, so knowing that if I hear thunder I can simply save and quit until it blows over is really reassuring for high round / EE attempts.
@@deistormmods It wasn't as good but it certainly wasn't ass. They are trying to cater to new players whether you like that or not. Do you really expect a new person to hop onto Gorod Krovi and enjoy the game mode the same way we did when we slowly got used to the mode over time?
@@quentinkaalekahi2216 ......no internet equals no play meaning one day the servers will go down. Meaning we don't own it. Also not everyone has internet nor do they want to play online. Most of my zombies experience growing up was playing couch co op with my cousin without internet
I’m about to quit online games, They ain’t what they used to be.. Recently I’ve been playing offline psp games and the amount of creativity and passion for games from developers has declined exponentially, I can see the money at play and how investors just push their developers to make profit and the product has been declining in quality. I hope this inspires others to stop wasting money on trash product maybe things will change if we just stop buying.
@@zSoulz193exactly, every year they find a way to manufacture a record breaking launch. Also since the last 5 years worth of sales will be tallied ontop of that, the figures can only go up
Blame Truth will have you believe it's the worst zombies of all time lol. I know you're friends with him but glad to see you don't subscribe to his bullshit. And I even usually agree with him, but he's crazy hating on this mode with what's been shown so far
- The save & quit feature will be bugged at launch. - Bundles will infest the game. - Shotguns will be OP at launch. - The game will mainly be an AR game.
@@zeezilthereal ooooh ok. I mean that's somewhat fair but even then, shotguns remain really powerful that a patch like that doesn't matter. Maybe it's just me but I don't know
Me and 3 of my friends only play zombies for the high rounds,,, and we never bothered about doing Easter eggs, and we like to search out hidden secrets within each zombie maps and do random stuff for the fun of it,,
Loadouts and rarities don't belong in RB zombies espec at beginning of game. Why cant make 2 difficulties to have one classic and casual to please all. So that's me back to old zombies again along with Double tap and better point system which should be a staple too. So frustrating to hear , wish the community made the content. 😔
But they’re not promoting classic trayarch zombies. They’re promoting a Cold War 2 and as much as you think people liked the movement and armor system and loadout system a large majority of the zombie community hated it they’re changing the zombies we used to love to Cater to the warzone and multiplayer community like why do we need a mini map for zombies? Why would you have an armor system for zombies? Zombies isn’t what it used to be they’re taking everything that was loved about black ops 3 yes but they’re running away from the foundation of what zombies is. Starting with nothing and finishing with everything
Bro shut up. There will be an classic mode in bo6 with the normal mode like with these two modes it will balance the game and also you can turn off the mini map thanks to the hud customization they added also no they don't want warzone and multiplayer players in zombies
@@Zer0_Decepti0nmost players probably don’t know this and will hate on it for it. But once they realize it was in bo3 they’ll be happy and okay with it lol
I think that, based on what I read on the blog, this year is gonna be what Cold War wanted to be, a fully realized zombies experience. They are going out of the way to fix a lot of things that went wrong in Cold War: We finally have a set crew, reworked salvage, added gobblegums, reworked perk upgrades, improved the HUD, added back a lot of the challenge from older games, and more. To me when people say "It looks just like Cold War so it's bad" I'm like... Did you even read the blog? Did you watch the trailer? Also, of course a sequel is gonna look similar to it's predecesor! BO3 and BO4 looked pretty similar, but no one says a thing. I do however have some gripes with the game, obviously loadouts are still a thing which is not fully good, though it seems they are bringing back the armory/weapon kits, meaning the box and wallbuys might be useful again. As well as the point system from Cold War coming back presumably, but I can live with those two things. The new problems that I am really bummed about are the MW engine (tac sprint and armor plates suck, Cold War armor wasn't perfect, but it was way better than this), the dumb always online thing, and the HUD, while improved from previous games, still has some more work to do. Overall, I think this year will be the best we've seen since Cold War, and possibly even BO4, though we still need more information and of course playing the game to really know for sure.
The reason they require an internet connection is this game has some data streaming thing so they don't have to download all textures onto your console. They say it's to save on size but it's still a pretty big game with that reduction
The main thing they need to do with zombies, is get rid of loadouts like in cold war. Spawn in with a pistol like zombies is meant to be. Make wall buys and box mean something again.
It’s really a bummer to see the direction they are going in for the newer zombies games. They ruined the point system, they ruined PaP, they ruined perks, they ruined progression with loadouts, and they added crafting and armor which further ruined progression, now anyone can get to round 100 with ease. With the new save and rejoin feature nobody should have a problem getting to round 100 at some point
I can imagine the internet connection is to ensure everyone is playing the same game version to prevent glitches and bugs exploiting or breaking the game in an offline state. But also for the auto save feature in case of a disconnect or power outage or camo & xp tracking 😊
The Internet connection has nothing to do with that. it’s for the texture streaming feature to reduced console gigabyte space and for a better experience the Internet is required for campaign as well
Don’t be worried about connection in zombies guys. Cold War was also online only for the most part. You had to be online to level up your account. Same goes for vanguard. The only reason MW3 has shit connection is because it’s open world with a couple dozen players who each have dozens of zombies spawned.
The game requires internet at all times because they’re using streaming to help run the game. Apparently they needed more power than these consoles could provide, which seems pretty stupid honestly, to run this game at the fidelity they wanted. The problem is how will that affect your connection/ping if you have to stream parts of the game while playing online? My prediction is the game will run worse the slower your internet is, which just plain sucks.
YES! They’re finally going back to the old… nvmd. What a f*ckin’ let down, dude. I’ve been playing zombies since WAW and I now believe it will never be like the good old days again (WAW,BO1,BO2). I’ve been patiently waiting for the next Treyarch zombies game to release hoping they would take it back to its roots, but I was let down yet again. I think that’s it for me boys. I don’t think I have it in me to wait around for another 3 years or however long until the next Treyarch zombies game comes out in hopes that they would give us (the dedicated OG’s of zombies) what we really want. I’m 36 now and my free time is valuable to me more than it was in the beginning. Zombies was the last thing keeping me interested in the COD games. It sucks, man, cause I was really looking forward to this one. It is what it is, and I just have to accept that now. It was great while it lasted though and I still have DOOM: The Dark Ages to look forward to. I had shotty’s on my skull in BO2 zombies the last time I played. 😢
If i buy BO6 it's only for zombies because MP is ruined by the match making, cheaters and micro transactions. But i won't hold my breath, i wait until a few weeks after launch and when ppl are still positive about zombies i might buy it.
if my hud is covered with +100 elimination after every zombie kill then im not playing it. I cant stand every little point pop up. It takes away from the experience and is very distracting.
The reason you need an Internet connection is because to keep the file sizes as small as possible they are streaming textures etc from their server, so without Internet connectivity it would look like dog shit.
@@alexisramirez3338 it's not 300 GBs. It was including warzone bo6 and I think both Modern Warfares all together make 300. Though, I think they said it alone is 100 gbs. So still a shit ton, but at least it's not 250 lol
@@annotated4769 imagine one year having a steak, the next year you get a steak again, the next year another steak, then you start getting imitation beef year after year and never get steak again.
I'm really happy about having only round based maps but I also wouldn't mind having onslaught as a challenge mode especially the one where there's no bubble you have to stay in and it's just constant fast waves of zombies. It's also just good for camos too.
Doesn’t matter if it’s online now anyway if you get disconnected while playing it’ll make. Temporary save so you can pick back up where you left off so the internet argument point is kinda null and void at this point dude. Plus it being online is what allows the save quit feature to begin with which I’d say is a nice welcome change in the eyes of most zombies players.
Armor fundamentally breaks a lot of zombies in these new games. Because of it they increase the amount of “ranged” zombies. Im sure in the later rounds like just in cold war the zombies will be able to 3 hit you making the armor more important than the actual perk juggernog. It needs to just be freaking removed at this point.
I could’ve sworn self revived was always limited to 2 or 3 I remember playing solo and buying the quick revive machine and after a certain number of times the machine just gets disabled
I was hoping that they bring back outbreak alongside the round based, I thought it was a nice addition to Cold War and added some variety to zombies whenever I got bored of playing the same maps
Coming from living in West Virginia I did not see that “going from rainy prison island to a small town in West Virginia” ain’t gonna lie had me dying 😂
Zombies doesn’t have its own identity anymore. Trying to shoehorn zombies into Warzone was the dumbest thing they ever did. We’re never going to have the simple maps like Kino where you just play for fun, or epic maps like Origins anymore because it all has to tie into Warzone.
liberty falls is the simple map, and they already stated that each map is gonna be strictly zomvies themed that fits the map. This maps looks absoultely amazing, espically the atmosphere
i dont know, one thing is for sure, i played call of duty for a week straight, went back to xdefiant and actually realize how much i miss xdefiant. the match making is so much better.😂 there is no match making
Honestly so far I'm impressed but I'm keeping my eyes open for now. I think the bo6 leaks were crazy tho 😭 I am beyond happy for the round based zombies coming back for sure
Its a common misunderstanding why CoD needs an active internet connection. Its actually a technical reason, CoD servers offload a lot of the tasks server side not end user side. If you tried to run CoD without a server it would take 10 times more data stored locally and you'd be pushing consoles way past what they are capable of computing CPU side. To run CoD locally would be a monster of a computer to handle all the tasks locally. If you want to test this yourself you can with another game. On PC you can emulate EFT with SPT Aki. You actually host a server locally on your machine to run the game, but be sure to have a pretty decent rig before trying it.
The required Internet has nothing to do with the save and quit feature it all has to do with the streaming textures Because that’s a thing apparently To save space gigabyte space on your console all, of the modes, including campaign, require Internet
Why are they acting like the zombies build thing is new, you could make a loadout in bo3 and the gun would appear in the box and wall with all attachments.
I dont mind cold war system being back in bo6 but they might have to remove stuff that us players dont like For example point system being 100 per kill instead of hitting and gain 10+
The gameplay actually looks great so far the theme is freedom to the player and im absolutely all for it yes we will have to see how it turns out on release but more wins than losses in my opinion.
Nero, I would have to disagree with you on the catch. It makes sense as to why internet will be needed to save your zombies game as I’m sure Activision has developed the ability to allow this feature to work by having to save your game to the cloud and built an infrastructure within that. It is difficult to build an infrastructure that would allow saved games on the current platform that BO6 might be running and requires more money and maintenance.
I love zombies. If zombies is good enough, I’d buy a cod game just for zombies. Black ops 6 zombies already looks good enough to buy just for that imo. I will be playing the other modes and I used to be more of multiplayer person but since Cold War I think I’ve been putting, more or less, even if not more time into zombies than multiplayer. I have a feeling I’ll be putting more time into zombies for sure this time around especially due to the cross progression because I think I’ll level up far faster in zombies than MP and there’s a camo grind and all for zombies as well. Lots of stuff to grind for in zombies
Online only zombies is a huge L. It’s infuriating honestly cause if this game is as good as bo3 or better (not likely) it means that some day I will never be able to play again when the servers get shut down. Other than that this mode looks pretty awesome, coming from a huge zombies bro
I play offline games exclusively i need my game to still be there after i buy it 2 to 3 years after, if offline is not there for at least zombies hard pass, hope an update supports it in the future but offline never gets love 💔
So I'd just like to mention that there is code for the map avalon. Well Avalon is also an apparent warzone map, its outbreak themed meaning its returning even with code backing it up. Otherwise I'm hyped for this game.
3:35, they have been making us connect to the internet in zombies since Cold War. Even on those servers they would give you the solo player a “personal server” to be connected to and play on. I am assuming they have to do the same thing since with BO6 since they haven’t figured out how to give players personal servers offline. The pause and play is a bonus though
This game will suck simply because it's made in the eyes of modern cod devs and Activision. These games are developed to drive actual cod fans away, and coddle the casual, non hardcore cod fan into buying skins that cost more then the game itself, even though it was made by A.I. in 8 seconds and on top of that it's in a game where you can only see your left hand while playing.... Again, this game is developed to frustrate you, as a cod fan, to the point that you quit playing, so they can sell more A.I. generated skins to non cod fans, and those cheeky fuks have the balls to call it "for player retention" Cod fans everywhere, don't buy this trash. Instead, go buy MWR on PC. It's on sale right now. There is a mod coming out for it soon. Welcome to essentially og mw2 remastered. A cod game developed to be fun like the good ol' days. I promise you it will be 100x better then every cod developed post blops 4 combined
my one complaint about this game, is really a problem with modern cod. It just doesn't look like cod anymore. It looks like battlefield. So much weapon sway, super skinny weapons that don't look real in-hand, graphics that are trying too hard to look "realistic". Like the gameplay and info of everything sounds great. I just wish it looked like cod
I understand where you are coming from but BF did that without that COD smoothness but here even with the sway and the skinny weapons it is still with that COD smoothness which is what matters IMO.
i get what you mean, this is EXACTLY what i and many others said back when MW2019 was first shown. i never really liked it. I think cold war did it the absolute best imo
@@silencedmaxim5889 good games. Not better than classic CoD, sorry. I'm a classic CoD fan. I'm not someone who was a BF fan who switched to CoD with MW2019. Classic Cod >>> Classic BF games
Or at least limited selection of weapons at start, like in BO4. Being able to go in with an LMG on hand at round 1 just makes the gameplay feel underwhelming.
A lot of those "features" are things that used to be a part of the game. Yet again they're taking things away and then bringing it back later and saying it's new, same old.
What? You never used to be able to save and quit. You never used to be able to join your friends once they've already begun. Never used to have a boat. Never had evolving enemies
Keep warzone elements out of zombies. Remove loadouts and armor and killstreaks. Give us the old point system back. Give us an offline mode. At the very least, the save state should be removed when you take a down or updated when you tske a down so you cant exploit the game by undoing your mistakes period.
Limited self revives have always been a thing in zombies since Black Ops 1. Cold War devalued high round challenges due to having infinite Revives.
Not really infinite lol. Also only people getting that much revives are high skilled players and that barely makes up 10 percent of the players
@@derrickfarbes1805 higher rounds in cold war 30+ you have an over abundance of rare scrap and can keep buying self revives id say that’s infinite.
@@datninjahd9905it’s also easy to lose them all since how expensive everything is
@@datninjahd9905 Idk if you've tried high rounding in cold war but I have and in my experience. Yea the revives are technically infinite like you said BUT on the other hand if you keep downing over and over in the higher rounds, it becomes infinitely more difficult to continue crafting revives. That's the way I remember it.
Dont get me wrong I think 3 self revive limit is a better system but that didn't make the lack of that system in cold war worse imo.
They need to remove the armor plates. It’s absolutely useless and only causes a distraction in an otherwise high intensity game mode. Just increase the durability of Jugg.
Or go back to badass buildable shields that are themed to the map
I definitely feel like armor plates need to be improved so it can fit into zombies better, also they are adding arguments to perks, field upgrades, etc. which will change how the perk works like giving jugg dying wish
@@DaUnstoppableGameron one hand it is more useful than the shield on the other shields are a lot cooler and I dont necessarily mind taking a hit from the front while being invincible for a few hits from the back and get to have a super cool shield.
@@Blessed_Souls Putting plates in the vest feels like a chore rather than a mechanic, not to mention that to craft more plates you have to go into a menu.
@DaUnstoppableGamer you want the shield that makes you invincible from the back got it somehow better than balanced plates
- Only start with pistol
- Points per hit instead of per kill
- Knuckle crack when PAPing
- Remove armor plates
That's all they need to give old zombies fans almost everything they want.
Honestly mantling should be removed too as it gives you too many escape options against zombies, but its so integrated into the engine/game they probably realistically couldn't at this point.
@@nikkmann149 Ya they literally used the same coding from Cold War and added a couple zombie types.
I hate the mantling bro i literally hate it
Maybe they can have a classic mode
@@nikkmann149 I agree with everything you said but I think starting with a pistol should be a optional thing since their is now a camo grind in zombies and you have e no guarantee that you’ll get it in a play through
Here’s two changes I’d make to that:
1. Keep loadouts. The mystery box and wall buys are now more useful in bo6 than they were in Cold War. You won’t want to just keep your loadout now… unless you are camo grinding. So now it’s perfect.
2. Removing armor should be paired with removing super sprinters. Super sprinters simply exist to keep you from being invincible because of armor. Super sprinters completely ruin routes and quick thinking. You can’t remove one or the other without it ending up being trash. Need to remove both or none at all.
Sadly as a hardcore zombies player Cold War was a disappointment to me. The biggest thing that killed it was how they changed the core progression of zombies. I feel like loadouts killed that progression. The starting pistol and having bad weapons in zombies was a core part that made the wonder weapons and good weapons that much more special. Now every weapon is OP and even starting with the pistol is too strong. I am still cautiously optimistic for the mode but I miss the old formula.
Pistol will definitely be neared/ act like it was before since they teased the mustang and Sally’s
I don’t think starting pistols will ever come back again, but I’m glad they at least brought back custom loadouts for all mystery box and wall buy weapons.
Just start with a pistol then , if you didn’t like a gun you just change it lol
@@lukegravity3911 not the same
I definitely disagree because the pistol was perfectly fine killing zombies until you had points to buy a wall weapon. People act like the pistol was so difficult to survive until round 2 where you had enough points to buy a wall weapon which were decent in every game. Early rounds have never been hard in any game except the very first zombies. The only different was high rounds were harder in general in which case you already had a decent weapon from the box except on the rare occasion in which you got nothing but snipers or you miss managed your points. The only difference is you can pick a weapon that you enjoy playing with and it can be customized to your play style which makes the whole experience more enjoyable not really easier. As long as you train zombies is easy. Train and kill, train and kill. Some weapons are just slower not harder.
The fact that zombies will be online only is stupid and unnecessary if someone is attempting to make it to round 100 and their Internet dies around round 99 that would be sad
There's save and quit and auto save for dc... Did you watch the video?
Someone didn’t watch the video…
And for us constantly stuck in shadowbans lobbies because of crybaby reporters, we can't even get into zombies at all. I've sat in queue for 2hrs at one point trying to get into a game
Why couldn’t it be “like black ops 3 zombies but better”
Because they need to dumb it down and make it appealing to multiplayer and warzone players.
Because it’s not better than bo3. It’s good, but it’s not that level.
@@lalter_which is dumb because Cold War zombies basically felt like multiplayer but with zombies which will cater to mp and warzone players but not the core zombies fanbase
@@ahzora8017I really wish Warzone never existed. It changed the development of the CODs that released afterwards and not in a good way imo
What's cray about you guys saying that. It literally Has all of bo3 things but more. This formula is still zombies so it's wild you think it's so different
The fact zombies just became a
"level up your guns to use WZ and Multiplayer" game mode, just saddens me and make me not excited for the game
Saying this is "Cold War Zombies but better" does not give me anymore hope, what BO6 needed to be was LESS Cold War
Loadouts, points per kill, field upgrades, armor plates all has to go, they make the game way too easy, I want zombie to be a survival mode, not a grindy kill as manay zombies until you get bored mode
It was always kill zombies till you get bored mode. Sure, the og maps were harder because less tools available but that also meant you got set up faster. Plus you can still play without interacting with all the extra stuff you don't like
You definitely don't wanna do that unless they make it fair because leveling up guns in zombies is always much slower than playing mp
@@rhettbutler5397"You don't has to interact with the extra stuff"
That loterally not an argument, they designed and balanced the game around these features, and basically means abandoning coop.
The different between Cold War Zombies and the OG is that you never get bored because you'll probably die before getting to that point, no matter how set up you were, you could still get easily overwhelmed and die quickly, Cold War give people so many chances to get out of sticky situations
@@grafpanzer1277 I mean, unless you're bad at zombies then sure, you wouldn't get set up quickly and would more than likely die.
@@rhettbutler5397 Literally didn't even read what I typed and I really doubt you play the og zombies
You just really wanted an excuse to call me bad and make skill issue jokes
If my internet lags and that affects hitreg in solo, imma be hella mad
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Connection interrupting in a solo game lol
It's saves solos games if you get disconnected
@@Quietkidfr I would assume that after 4 years of dev time that Treyarch can save my game while still running the game client side
@@Quietkidfr10$ people will go down mid disconnect
Sometimes it doesn’t boot you immediately, it lags and then boots you
I miss point farming and maps that didn't force your hand into doing the story easter eggs. WAW-BO3 zombies was the best and I hope they will bring maps that will go based off of the themes and linear gameplay from those games once in a while.
Liberty Falls is rumoured to be more classic survival orientated, with a more subtle EE quest.
Online only is due to the gobble gums. As soon as you use one, it will be removed from your inventory. In BO3, you could “dashboard” and keep all your gobble gums.
Zombies just doesn’t feel like the zombies I grew up playing. I don’t know if it’s just me, but I didn’t enjoy Cold War zombies as much.
You guys are stuck in 2013, you haven't moved on. BO2 was good yeah, but in 2013, not anymore.
@@eLNofar If it ain’t broke, don’t fix it. It was fine with where it was at
@@Jeffreymaxwelll bo2 is actual garbage if you drop the nostalgia
Bo3 and cold war clear in graphics and gameplay
@@TheRealR500 oh facts. I know BO2 is not perfect. Lots of bugs and glitches. I’m talking more about just the flow of the game and the maps. They just feel different than this. It’s hard to explain.
@@Jeffreymaxwelllhow long can you chew a gum for? At first it’s good but after 5-6 bites it goes stale and loses flavor. It’s the same gum but it taste the same because of how overchewed it is. Same thing applies to zombies
I want double tap and normal point system
Probably we will never get those things back unfortunately, if this game is looking like cold war, that means that zombies will die easily for every weapon so, not only WW or traps, easy high rounds coming again...
I was hoping they’d bring back zombie specific prestiging. I loved grinding to level 1000 in bo3 zombies even tho I only made it to 600 or so
If they are on zombies and high level they are most likely zombie players. You act like people are jumping back and forth nonstop like that
@@derrickfarbes1805dude shut up
I'm a big fan of the new save system. I live in an area where if it storms, the power is almost guaranteed to go out, so knowing that if I hear thunder I can simply save and quit until it blows over is really reassuring for high round / EE attempts.
That was my goalpost: as long as it’s better than Cold War and built on the Cold War systems in a refreshing way, I’m sold. It looks great.
@@carlhilliard3111 why do you like Cold War it’s totally different from og zombies
cold war zombies is ass though when compared to previous treyarch zombies. why would you be happy with garbage?
@@deistormmods cool brother
@@deistormmods It wasn't as good but it certainly wasn't ass. They are trying to cater to new players whether you like that or not. Do you really expect a new person to hop onto Gorod Krovi and enjoy the game mode the same way we did when we slowly got used to the mode over time?
@@chosen_theartist1581it’s still zombies tho. You gotta get out of the past and accept that things change
This actually looks decent.
It sucks
@@Kungpl0w have you played it?
It looks actually amazing, maybe the best zombies since bo3
Absolutely not@@Quedaco
@@Quedacocan’t say that yet but mostly definitely has potential
Your friends joining mid game was also a thing in cold war
@julio-_2531 in Cold War, it only worked up till about round 10, but people have said it works at all rounds in bo6
@@orangeyz9614 i didnt know up to what round i just knew it was a thing i usually play zombies in solo so didnt know up to the round
That requirement for internet is absolutely horse shit!
Not really lol.
@@quentinkaalekahi2216 yes really lol
@@gamerdudeforlife101 how ? It doesn't really change anything
@@quentinkaalekahi2216 ......no internet equals no play meaning one day the servers will go down. Meaning we don't own it. Also not everyone has internet nor do they want to play online. Most of my zombies experience growing up was playing couch co op with my cousin without internet
@@quentinkaalekahi2216 it is , servers go out or they shutdown you lose everything
I’m about to quit online games, They ain’t what they used to be.. Recently I’ve been playing offline psp games and the amount of creativity and passion for games from developers has declined exponentially, I can see the money at play and how investors just push their developers to make profit and the product has been declining in quality. I hope this inspires others to stop wasting money on trash product maybe things will change if we just stop buying.
Hate to say this but bo6 will be the most downloaded cod. And im hoping itll be better than the last 5
@@dreamsdicc1817 well yea it’s gonna be free on GamePass 👶it being better is subjective
Yeah. There's nothing they can do. Although I think it should set a standard and reset the COD cycle back to devs having 3 years
It’ll be the most downloaded because of game pass.
@@zSoulz193exactly, every year they find a way to manufacture a record breaking launch. Also since the last 5 years worth of sales will be tallied ontop of that, the figures can only go up
@@CoolManCoolMan123 ya maybe theyll realise giving them more time actually makes a better cod💀
Blame Truth will have you believe it's the worst zombies of all time lol. I know you're friends with him but glad to see you don't subscribe to his bullshit.
And I even usually agree with him, but he's crazy hating on this mode with what's been shown so far
- The save & quit feature will be bugged at launch.
- Bundles will infest the game.
- Shotguns will be OP at launch.
- The game will mainly be an AR game.
1. ok
2. dont care
3. so?
4. no
Doesn't the third and fourth point contradict itself?
@@blutuber9151 He said shotguns would be op at launch so im thinking that he meant it would be an AR game after the shotguns got patched
@@zeezilthereal ooooh ok. I mean that's somewhat fair but even then, shotguns remain really powerful that a patch like that doesn't matter. Maybe it's just me but I don't know
Ive played local mp on ps4 jailbreak the shotguns are pretty ass, lmg and ar are way too strong and smg feels like a water gun its trash
Me and 3 of my friends only play zombies for the high rounds,,, and we never bothered about doing Easter eggs, and we like to search out hidden secrets within each zombie maps and do random stuff for the fun of it,,
It's looking good so far. Treyarch is cooking, and all the announcements that are part of Zombies
you must be 12
@deistormmods Whatever you say, dude, because someone who is excited for zombies to be back. Since I have been there since the beginning
@@deistormmods YOU must be 12
@@SgtTankDempsey nothing wrong with being young or into the newer cods, its just a trend im noticing
@@deistormmodsconsidering cod is a 18+ game there is something wrong with it
Loadouts and rarities don't belong in RB zombies espec at beginning of game. Why cant make 2 difficulties to have one classic and casual to please all. So that's me back to old zombies again along with Double tap and better point system which should be a staple too. So frustrating to hear , wish the community made the content. 😔
But they’re not promoting classic trayarch zombies. They’re promoting a Cold War 2 and as much as you think people liked the movement and armor system and loadout system a large majority of the zombie community hated it they’re changing the zombies we used to love to Cater to the warzone and multiplayer community like why do we need a mini map for zombies? Why would you have an armor system for zombies? Zombies isn’t what it used to be they’re taking everything that was loved about black ops 3 yes but they’re running away from the foundation of what zombies is. Starting with nothing and finishing with everything
Bro shut up. There will be an classic mode in bo6 with the normal mode like with these two modes it will balance the game and also you can turn off the mini map thanks to the hud customization they added also no they don't want warzone and multiplayer players in zombies
5:30 has this not always been a thing? I remember doing it in bo3
It has.
Wasn't in cold war. Last time we saw it was 6 years ago
@@Zer0_Decepti0nmost players probably don’t know this and will hate on it for it. But once they realize it was in bo3 they’ll be happy and okay with it lol
Last zombies mode I played was BO2 and I loved it. This looks good!
@@Knight_of_the_Old_Code me too it’s been a year you on ps5? Ps4?
I think that, based on what I read on the blog, this year is gonna be what Cold War wanted to be, a fully realized zombies experience. They are going out of the way to fix a lot of things that went wrong in Cold War: We finally have a set crew, reworked salvage, added gobblegums, reworked perk upgrades, improved the HUD, added back a lot of the challenge from older games, and more. To me when people say "It looks just like Cold War so it's bad" I'm like... Did you even read the blog? Did you watch the trailer? Also, of course a sequel is gonna look similar to it's predecesor! BO3 and BO4 looked pretty similar, but no one says a thing. I do however have some gripes with the game, obviously loadouts are still a thing which is not fully good, though it seems they are bringing back the armory/weapon kits, meaning the box and wallbuys might be useful again. As well as the point system from Cold War coming back presumably, but I can live with those two things. The new problems that I am really bummed about are the MW engine (tac sprint and armor plates suck, Cold War armor wasn't perfect, but it was way better than this), the dumb always online thing, and the HUD, while improved from previous games, still has some more work to do. Overall, I think this year will be the best we've seen since Cold War, and possibly even BO4, though we still need more information and of course playing the game to really know for sure.
The reason they require an internet connection is this game has some data streaming thing so they don't have to download all textures onto your console. They say it's to save on size but it's still a pretty big game with that reduction
The main thing they need to do with zombies, is get rid of loadouts like in cold war. Spawn in with a pistol like zombies is meant to be. Make wall buys and box mean something again.
If YOU want to YOU can load in with just a pistol
@neko8074 yeah but its not the same, it should be forced like every zombies prior
It’s really a bummer to see the direction they are going in for the newer zombies games. They ruined the point system, they ruined PaP, they ruined perks, they ruined progression with loadouts, and they added crafting and armor which further ruined progression, now anyone can get to round 100 with ease. With the new save and rejoin feature nobody should have a problem getting to round 100 at some point
I can imagine the internet connection is to ensure everyone is playing the same game version to prevent glitches and bugs exploiting or breaking the game in an offline state. But also for the auto save feature in case of a disconnect or power outage or camo & xp tracking 😊
The Internet connection has nothing to do with that. it’s for the texture streaming feature to reduced console gigabyte space and for a better experience the Internet is required for campaign as well
Don’t be worried about connection in zombies guys. Cold War was also online only for the most part. You had to be online to level up your account. Same goes for vanguard. The only reason MW3 has shit connection is because it’s open world with a couple dozen players who each have dozens of zombies spawned.
The game requires internet at all times because they’re using streaming to help run the game. Apparently they needed more power than these consoles could provide, which seems pretty stupid honestly, to run this game at the fidelity they wanted. The problem is how will that affect your connection/ping if you have to stream parts of the game while playing online? My prediction is the game will run worse the slower your internet is, which just plain sucks.
No. The already added a save and quiet feature
Love how the zombies fly everywhere after explosions
YES! They’re finally going back to the old… nvmd. What a f*ckin’ let down, dude. I’ve been playing zombies since WAW and I now believe it will never be like the good old days again (WAW,BO1,BO2). I’ve been patiently waiting for the next Treyarch zombies game to release hoping they would take it back to its roots, but I was let down yet again. I think that’s it for me boys. I don’t think I have it in me to wait around for another 3 years or however long until the next Treyarch zombies game comes out in hopes that they would give us (the dedicated OG’s of zombies) what we really want. I’m 36 now and my free time is valuable to me more than it was in the beginning. Zombies was the last thing keeping me interested in the COD games. It sucks, man, cause I was really looking forward to this one. It is what it is, and I just have to accept that now. It was great while it lasted though and I still have DOOM: The Dark Ages to look forward to. I had shotty’s on my skull in BO2 zombies the last time I played. 😢
If i buy BO6 it's only for zombies because MP is ruined by the match making, cheaters and micro transactions. But i won't hold my breath, i wait until a few weeks after launch and when ppl are still positive about zombies i might buy it.
Micro transactions? Like skins? You're pressed over skins?
if my hud is covered with +100 elimination after every zombie kill then im not playing it. I cant stand every little point pop up. It takes away from the experience and is very distracting.
zombies content is back youtubers got there job back
The reason you need an Internet connection is because to keep the file sizes as small as possible they are streaming textures etc from their server, so without Internet connectivity it would look like dog shit.
Or you could download the whole thing and have good textures
Bs 300gb cods arent small.
@@alexisramirez3338 ever hear of downloading the part of the game you want to play
@@alexisramirez3338 it's not 300 GBs. It was including warzone bo6 and I think both Modern Warfares all together make 300. Though, I think they said it alone is 100 gbs. So still a shit ton, but at least it's not 250 lol
@@andrewheeley9008 it's definitely not for that because if they allowed the devs to actually optimize the game the file size would be smaller
I still don't understand the BOCW zombies hate ngl.
@@annotated4769 imagine one year having a steak, the next year you get a steak again, the next year another steak, then you start getting imitation beef year after year and never get steak again.
@@tjm7699that doesn't explain why cw is bad you're just calling it bad with no explanation
@neko8074 do you know what steak taste like compared to imitation beef?
Good gameplay should always be prioritized over camo grinding.
I'm really happy about having only round based maps but I also wouldn't mind having onslaught as a challenge mode especially the one where there's no bubble you have to stay in and it's just constant fast waves of zombies. It's also just good for camos too.
Casual zombies fan. But Cold War was my favorite version so I’m happy to see this.
The graphics were kinda meh. But the gameplay was great. I wonder, what platform was the footage we saw captured on?
Doesn’t matter if it’s online now anyway if you get disconnected while playing it’ll make. Temporary save so you can pick back up where you left off so the internet argument point is kinda null and void at this point dude. Plus it being online is what allows the save quit feature to begin with which I’d say is a nice welcome change in the eyes of most zombies players.
The game seems good. Nostalgia gets in the way of experimenting structure changes in the game sometimes, but we have to try before canceling the game
I think having Gobblegums return is a negative but I'm glad loadouts are coming back again.
Armor fundamentally breaks a lot of zombies in these new games. Because of it they increase the amount of “ranged” zombies.
Im sure in the later rounds like just in cold war the zombies will be able to 3 hit you making the armor more important than the actual perk juggernog. It needs to just be freaking removed at this point.
Man your intro tune never fails to make me smile
The maps lack atmosphere it’s ok but it will never beat the zombie trilogy
You think this map lacks atmosphere?? Are we watching the same thing
Take out armor plates, bring back perk bottles, and get rid of the health bar.
I could’ve sworn self revived was always limited to 2 or 3 I remember playing solo and buying the quick revive machine and after a certain number of times the machine just gets disabled
The hype is finally back. I havent looked forward into a COD game sinxe BO2
No Thank you freak DRM games!
I was hoping that they bring back outbreak alongside the round based, I thought it was a nice addition to Cold War and added some variety to zombies whenever I got bored of playing the same maps
Coming from living in West Virginia I did not see that “going from rainy prison island to a small town in West Virginia” ain’t gonna lie had me dying 😂
Zombies doesn’t have its own identity anymore. Trying to shoehorn zombies into Warzone was the dumbest thing they ever did. We’re never going to have the simple maps like Kino where you just play for fun, or epic maps like Origins anymore because it all has to tie into Warzone.
We didn't watch the same reveal I guess
liberty falls is the simple map, and they already stated that each map is gonna be strictly zomvies themed that fits the map. This maps looks absoultely amazing, espically the atmosphere
The only thing in bo6 that is from WZ is armor plates
@@FaZeloffOfGlizzywoodloot and kill streaks?
Facts
Its now a means to lvl up guns for warzone
i dont know, one thing is for sure, i played call of duty for a week straight, went back to xdefiant and actually realize how much i miss xdefiant. the match making is so much better.😂 there is no match making
Honestly so far I'm impressed but I'm keeping my eyes open for now. I think the bo6 leaks were crazy tho 😭 I am beyond happy for the round based zombies coming back for sure
Its a common misunderstanding why CoD needs an active internet connection.
Its actually a technical reason, CoD servers offload a lot of the tasks server side not end user side. If you tried to run CoD without a server it would take 10 times more data stored locally and you'd be pushing consoles way past what they are capable of computing CPU side. To run CoD locally would be a monster of a computer to handle all the tasks locally.
If you want to test this yourself you can with another game. On PC you can emulate EFT with SPT Aki. You actually host a server locally on your machine to run the game, but be sure to have a pretty decent rig before trying it.
The required Internet has nothing to do with the save and quit feature it all has to do with the streaming textures Because that’s a thing apparently To save space gigabyte space on your console all, of the modes, including campaign, require Internet
Why are they acting like the zombies build thing is new, you could make a loadout in bo3 and the gun would appear in the box and wall with all attachments.
That's not a loadout tho you still need to find that weapon either on the wall or box, not equip a fully fleshed loadout
Now if they got rid of sbmm this could be cod of the century
I seen a spider, it’s a no go for me.
I dont mind cold war system being back in bo6 but they might have to remove stuff that us players dont like
For example point system being 100 per kill instead of hitting and gain 10+
I could see always online to prevent game save cheats for cloud save cheats
The gameplay actually looks great so far the theme is freedom to the player and im absolutely all for it yes we will have to see how it turns out on release but more wins than losses in my opinion.
I switched to cold War zombies for the 1st time and I really enjoyed it
Nero, I would have to disagree with you on the catch. It makes sense as to why internet will be needed to save your zombies game as I’m sure Activision has developed the ability to allow this feature to work by having to save your game to the cloud and built an infrastructure within that. It is difficult to build an infrastructure that would allow saved games on the current platform that BO6 might be running and requires more money and maintenance.
Please play more custom zombies on the second channel to build up the hype for this year!!
Round based is and always will be the best
I love zombies. If zombies is good enough, I’d buy a cod game just for zombies. Black ops 6 zombies already looks good enough to buy just for that imo. I will be playing the other modes and I used to be more of multiplayer person but since Cold War I think I’ve been putting, more or less, even if not more time into zombies than multiplayer. I have a feeling I’ll be putting more time into zombies for sure this time around especially due to the cross progression because I think I’ll level up far faster in zombies than MP and there’s a camo grind and all for zombies as well. Lots of stuff to grind for in zombies
It looks like a combination of BO4 and Cold War. I think I'm sold.
Its bo3 + cw
Online only zombies is a huge L. It’s infuriating honestly cause if this game is as good as bo3 or better (not likely) it means that some day I will never be able to play again when the servers get shut down. Other than that this mode looks pretty awesome, coming from a huge zombies bro
I'd rather have Outbreak 2. Hope these maps are actually decent so they don't get stale in the first 5 runs
What ever happened to a 2 year cod this one needs to be the one
I agree with you, always online objectively sucks.
Like the MP, though, the reasoning I believe is for there to be constant texture streaming.
I play offline games exclusively i need my game to still be there after i buy it 2 to 3 years after, if offline is not there for at least zombies hard pass, hope an update supports it in the future but offline never gets love 💔
So I'd just like to mention that there is code for the map avalon. Well Avalon is also an apparent warzone map, its outbreak themed meaning its returning even with code backing it up. Otherwise I'm hyped for this game.
3:35, they have been making us connect to the internet in zombies since Cold War. Even on those servers they would give you the solo player a “personal server” to be connected to and play on. I am assuming they have to do the same thing since with BO6 since they haven’t figured out how to give players personal servers offline. The pause and play is a bonus though
Honestly pretty pumped
Both the campaign & zombies might be great it's just the MP that will be sour
This game will suck simply because it's made in the eyes of modern cod devs and Activision.
These games are developed to drive actual cod fans away, and coddle the casual, non hardcore cod fan into buying skins that cost more then the game itself, even though it was made by A.I. in 8 seconds and on top of that it's in a game where you can only see your left hand while playing....
Again, this game is developed to frustrate you, as a cod fan, to the point that you quit playing, so they can sell more A.I. generated skins to non cod fans, and those cheeky fuks have the balls to call it "for player retention"
Cod fans everywhere, don't buy this trash. Instead, go buy MWR on PC. It's on sale right now. There is a mod coming out for it soon. Welcome to essentially og mw2 remastered. A cod game developed to be fun like the good ol' days.
I promise you it will be 100x better then every cod developed post blops 4 combined
No outbreak, outbreak was gooooood...
You'd have to play online anyways because half the shaders/graphics are sever side. Other zombies was online only already
The afk thing relates to if you are paused
They need to remove weapon rarity it takes out the attempt of trying new weapons
Spider zombies!
my one complaint about this game, is really a problem with modern cod. It just doesn't look like cod anymore. It looks like battlefield. So much weapon sway, super skinny weapons that don't look real in-hand, graphics that are trying too hard to look "realistic".
Like the gameplay and info of everything sounds great. I just wish it looked like cod
@@rommelthedesertfox3089 no. I'm sorry, but no
I understand where you are coming from but BF did that without that COD smoothness but here even with the sway and the skinny weapons it is still with that COD smoothness which is what matters IMO.
@@scovafd Bad Company 2, Battlefield 3, Battlefield 4, and Battlefield WW1 (although that last one I didn't like as much as the others).
i get what you mean, this is EXACTLY what i and many others said back when MW2019 was first shown. i never really liked it. I think cold war did it the absolute best imo
@@silencedmaxim5889 good games. Not better than classic CoD, sorry. I'm a classic CoD fan. I'm not someone who was a BF fan who switched to CoD with MW2019. Classic Cod >>> Classic BF games
We need no load outs no tier to weapons so no blue or green guns and upgrading them that way and no armor and then zombies is so back
For real. They made it warzone
The question is: will the point system be like the older zombies or these new zombies?
Jedi survivor was the same way why tf I need internet to play a single player game
Looks fun. They ruined BOZ when they killed primis off imo. So its nice to hear the good doctors name again. Keeping my expectations tempered.
The only thing i don’t like is no pistol starts. But the map actually looks cool
Or at least limited selection of weapons at start, like in BO4. Being able to go in with an LMG on hand at round 1 just makes the gameplay feel underwhelming.
A lot of those "features" are things that used to be a part of the game. Yet again they're taking things away and then bringing it back later and saying it's new, same old.
What? You never used to be able to save and quit. You never used to be able to join your friends once they've already begun. Never used to have a boat. Never had evolving enemies
I think having to always be oonline is to stop PIRACY!
Keep warzone elements out of zombies. Remove loadouts and armor and killstreaks. Give us the old point system back. Give us an offline mode. At the very least, the save state should be removed when you take a down or updated when you tske a down so you cant exploit the game by undoing your mistakes period.
It does graphically look pretty darn good the vids are on a ridiculously powerful high graphic high FPS computer but still looks good