Came here as soon as I had heard Matthew passed. One of the most impactful smaller roles in the entire series. What an astounding performance, and what a tragic loss.
Me too. First place I cam, he had so many great roles, but this is the one I wanted to see. Showed his great versatility. The world can be such a hard and dark place.
Have been trying to find a video clip from a scene in "Life on Mars" where Joe is listening in on CJ's phone conversation with Stu Winkle and is showing her the evidence he has uncovered on Hoynes. Absolutely chilling. Though he did not speak one word, his facial expression spoke volumes about what an amazing actor he was, and was well deserving of the Emmy nomination he received. This is just too tragic on all levels.
Matthew Perry is so much more than a comedy actor. I mean his comedy timing is perfect but he is also a damn brilliant dramatic actor. I was constantly amazed by performance on West Wing and Studio 60.
@@joemckim1183 Yes, Friends is very well written but it's often the way a line is delivered that makes it funny. If you pay attention you realise that there are quite often lines that are not funny by itself but the way they say them makes it hilarious. This is more difficult than people think and Perry is just awesome with this.
Always find it interesting that Quincy is taking the side of the issue that Bartlett took in Congress. In the flashback when Josh goes up to NH to watch Bartlett speak, Bartlett is talking about how he voted for a bill that helped bring milk prices down at the expense of farmers. That speech won Josh over.
I'm for years late, but as i see it, it is a strategy that works out politically well. The government is paying huge farm subsidies - and usually every Congressman is trying to geht the biggest chunk of the pork into his or her district. So you look the other way when food prices are going down, so that farmers can't live from that anymore and then get subsidies into your district to win over those voters for you. That is also the reason, blue dog democrats in rural districts were able to hold their seats for quite some time, even if in presidential elections, the districts voted Republican for decades already. Those Congressmen were usually quite senior and members of the committees important for agricultural business and fought for their people. The most recent example of a democrat like that is Colin Peterson from Minnesota, the Chairman of the House Agriculture Committee in the previous Congress. People were confronted with the choice to replace a guy that had a free reign of bringing subsidies into their district with a freshman republican who would be at the very bottom of the congressional food chain. In 2020, polarization and nationalization of those toss-up congressional races finally took Peterson down.
The problem with modern politics is that it's too much, too fast, and managed by so many people that nobody's really expected to maintain any kind of consistency; and that's all on top of the fact that everyone's thinking in 2-4 year cycles, and what came before and what might come after doesn't matter, so there's no way to maintain anything for any length of time, or even reflect on the idea that what worked for you to get elected isn't the same thing as what you're dealing with now.
"I hate you and everything you stand for" "CJ you've only known me for like 4 minutes. It usually takes an hour for people to hate me and everything I stand for." "I'm the Press Secretary boo boo. I don't have that kind of time." Classic TV, brilliantly written and acted. God I miss this show.
Grace Skerp Indeed she is and this scene is just a brilliant portrayal of that. In all honesty CJ remains one of if not my total favourite female characters of any show.
Oh yeah, that is NOT where a motherboard belongs. :) I love Josh saying "Technically I outrank you" only to be told "SO FAR UP YOUR," well, you know the rest. :)
I love watching Allison Janney in this clip after her amazing comedic acting in "Mom". She is so talented. The same could be said for Matthew Perry, but I remember how much I loved C. J. in this show.
"Well, this may sound silly, but the Science Editor from the Washington Post has a source, a blind source, who says the Vice-President personally told him - the blind source - that the Vice-President interfered to classify a report that a NASA commission, which he heads, has, saying there's life on Mars." This is an impressive piece of dialogue.
I loved the west wing and it was even better with MP appearance! Great choice wish he had stayed with us longer. HE was nominated for an emmy for THIS ROLE. Well deserved!
Ironically, in another episode during Barletts first run for the White House he talked about how he made the choice to screw over the farmers to make food more affordable for poor families and it was seen as the noble, compassionate thing.
I don't think CJ's complaint is that food is cheaper, it's that congress gutted the safety net for farmers and now that food is cheaper, the farmers can't afford to operate their farms. The new england dairy compact would have increased the price of milk, so it's not like the farmer was suddenly earning less, it's that the farmer was prevented from becoming richer due to rising food costs. There's a subtle yet important distinction between accepting naturally falling food costs and preventing an artificial increase in food costs.
This ep was one of the best. Watching Perry's character connect the dots on the VP's scandal was excellent. I agree they should have kept him. I mean, he's smart enough to crack the case of the scandalous VP, but not good enough to keep on staff? :-)
He was still on staff, just not used on screen except because he was also law clerk to the old Liberal Chief Justice. First time, when the Chief Justice wouldn’t retire, and the second time when they got him to retire when a Conservative Justice died, and they decided to get a female CJ and a conservative Associate Justice played by William Fitchner.
@@scotthartman8993 only one White House counsel was in more than one episode. Lionel Tribbe was a one-off. He was quickly replaced with Babish, who appeared later in season 2, parts of season 3, and then again in season 7.
No one has an answer for the dilemma of (a) lower prices for consumers, and (b) lower revenues for producers. That problem is baked in the cake. So I'm not rooting for either side in this argument between Joe Quincy and CJ Cregg. But I do admire how Joe Quincy held his own when hazed by Josh Lyman and CJ. He was a smart, poised character. Like everyone else, I wish he'd been made a permanent part of the cast.
I didn’t know he was on this show, after Michael Keaton and Robin Williams, I don’t get nervous over the idea of a having a comedic actor play a dramatic character and RIP Matthew Perry.
"It usually takes people the better part of an hour to hate me and everything I stand for." "I'm the press secretary Boo Boo. I don't have that kind of time." LOL
@ac9milan which ones are you refering to? I noticed the "it usually takes people the better part of an hour to hate me and everything I stand for" which is a rewrite of a line from A Few Good Men between Tom Cruice and Demi More
@Kasino80 yeah he was also nominated for best guest srar in a drama series twice for this role, all the more reason. But i guess he was still working on Friends.
The Bartlet Administration also had a habit of putting their known to be "Republicans" bright minds thst Jed Bartlet wants to hear from i.e. Ainsley Hayes and Joe Quincy, in basement offices. ****spoiler*** Life on Mars episode took an interesting turn via Quincy probing this blind source story for C J Cregg.
Think they didn't keep him because the character's a Conservative who's 1) articulate enough to reduce CJ to snarky straw-man replies (which Sorkin PROBABLY thought were legit rebuttals), 2) witty and snarky himself, in his responses to said replies, and 3) just plain cool as heck? You know...the Alex P. Keaton effect. And Sorkin couldn't have that for too long...now, could he?
Yeah that is absolutely not the reason but would you expect anything else than edge and idiocy from someone like him? Also he didnt even understand CJ as she was being sarcastic in her replies so thats the level of smart he has.
Hard Boiled Entertainment They didn’t keep him, because it’s Matthew Fricking Perry, and he costs a gazillion dollars an episode. He was brought in for a very specific story arc, and then disappeared back into Ainsley’s old office.
@Hard Boiled Entertainment: by the fifth season Sorkin wasn't on the show. Personally I think Joe would've been as good as Mulready if Sorkin was still writing the script for the 5th season and beyond.
And when those farmers go broke.. can't make money.. their land becomes bought out by banks who sell to Monsanto... and your food at the grocery store, you won't be able to tell what it is.. :)
I'd like to reference Boston Legal: "We lawyers are paid by our clients by the hour, so it is our moral obligation to make the most of the time they are paying us for - by speaking fast."
This video perfectly expresses Democrats. They don't know why or any specifics, but they will hate any conservative without reason. So, ask yourself: Which party is full of prejudicial people?
I know this is Hollywood. It made my teeth grind when I heard this. My experience is that people who claim all sorts of self-righteous superiority over others such as "I hate you and everything you stand for," often end up in real trouble because that superiority is imagined. I looked at this and I thought immediately of the press conference disaster from Josh Lyman, proclaiming his degrees from Yale and Harvard rendered him invincible to the White House Press Corps. I missed watching this show because the situations seemed relevant. Snide, rude, arrogant remarks like this seem worthy more of a junior high school in Topeka than they do from the White House.
Came here as soon as I had heard Matthew passed. One of the most impactful smaller roles in the entire series. What an astounding performance, and what a tragic loss.
Ditto ... I think about this scene a lot, in these polarized times. His run on TWW was short, but really good.
Me too. First place I cam, he had so many great roles, but this is the one I wanted to see. Showed his great versatility. The world can be such a hard and dark place.
Have been trying to find a video clip from a scene in "Life on Mars" where Joe is listening in on CJ's phone conversation with Stu Winkle and is showing her the evidence he has uncovered on Hoynes. Absolutely chilling. Though he did not speak one word, his facial expression spoke volumes about what an amazing actor he was, and was well deserving of the Emmy nomination he received. This is just too tragic on all levels.
Yeeeas...he was so great in this role ❤
Matthew Perry is so much more than a comedy actor. I mean his comedy timing is perfect but he is also a damn brilliant dramatic actor. I was constantly amazed by performance on West Wing and Studio 60.
Comedy is usually considered harder to do. That's why you see more comedic actors making a successful transition to drama than the other way around.
@@joemckim1183 Yes, Friends is very well written but it's often the way a line is delivered that makes it funny. If you pay attention you realise that there are quite often lines that are not funny by itself but the way they say them makes it hilarious. This is more difficult than people think and Perry is just awesome with this.
So technically there's a Matthew Perry in the Sorkinverse since he acknowledged that The West Wing is a show.
... "I'm the Press Secretary, _boo-boo_ , I don't have that kinda time'' ... my god, she delivers those words with so much style and panache!
RIP Matthew. He was a part of television"s finest hour and his passing brings us here to remember that.
He was one of the best West Wing guest stars.
So sad to hear Matthew has passed. He was so much more than Chandler and this was one of my favourite roles he played.
Always find it interesting that Quincy is taking the side of the issue that Bartlett took in Congress. In the flashback when Josh goes up to NH to watch Bartlett speak, Bartlett is talking about how he voted for a bill that helped bring milk prices down at the expense of farmers. That speech won Josh over.
I'm for years late, but as i see it, it is a strategy that works out politically well. The government is paying huge farm subsidies - and usually every Congressman is trying to geht the biggest chunk of the pork into his or her district. So you look the other way when food prices are going down, so that farmers can't live from that anymore and then get subsidies into your district to win over those voters for you.
That is also the reason, blue dog democrats in rural districts were able to hold their seats for quite some time, even if in presidential elections, the districts voted Republican for decades already. Those Congressmen were usually quite senior and members of the committees important for agricultural business and fought for their people. The most recent example of a democrat like that is Colin Peterson from Minnesota, the Chairman of the House Agriculture Committee in the previous Congress. People were confronted with the choice to replace a guy that had a free reign of bringing subsidies into their district with a freshman republican who would be at the very bottom of the congressional food chain. In 2020, polarization and nationalization of those toss-up congressional races finally took Peterson down.
The problem with modern politics is that it's too much, too fast, and managed by so many people that nobody's really expected to maintain any kind of consistency; and that's all on top of the fact that everyone's thinking in 2-4 year cycles, and what came before and what might come after doesn't matter, so there's no way to maintain anything for any length of time, or even reflect on the idea that what worked for you to get elected isn't the same thing as what you're dealing with now.
Matt Perry is such an underrated dramatic actor.
Agreed.
with a smart alex side as well pure non sense delieved as a straight man!
"I hate you and everything you stand for"
"CJ you've only known me for like 4 minutes. It usually takes an hour for people to hate me and everything I stand for."
"I'm the Press Secretary boo boo. I don't have that kind of time."
Classic TV, brilliantly written and acted. God I miss this show.
+MrPeterpiper1969 Claudia Jean, the mistress of snark.
Grace Skerp Indeed she is and this scene is just a brilliant portrayal of that. In all honesty CJ remains one of if not my total favourite female characters of any show.
My favorite was telling Josh that if he didn't stop getting into internet flame wars, she'd do something rude and crude to him with a mother board.
Oh yeah, that is NOT where a motherboard belongs. :) I love Josh saying "Technically I outrank you" only to be told "SO FAR UP YOUR," well, you know the rest. :)
Ass. The word is ass. "So far up your ass."
This is a YT comment section. What's with all the decorum?
I love watching Allison Janney in this clip after her amazing comedic acting in "Mom". She is so talented. The same could be said for Matthew Perry, but I remember how much I loved C. J. in this show.
RIP, Matthew. I love that you were brave enough to take roles as such unpleasant and difficult characters after leaving Friends.
Matthew Perry should have been a series regular after Sam left.
Honestly though
If he wasn't already on the top rated sitcom at the time making bank maybe that would've been possible.
@@joemckim1183 Hey he left advertisement to become lawyer for the White House ! Monica would be so proud
@@saurabhkumarsingh3986 "could I be more of a republican?"
Sorkin used him for Studio 60. But that show only lasted one season and was stupidly cancelled.
The *GREATEST* show in the _HISTORY_ of television
. . .”While life expectancy goes up, it’s not victimizing the undertakers”-a sarcastic line well delivered!
He was such a hugely talented actor. He was taken much too early.
It's rather amusing how, in two minutes, so much Sorkin dialog gets recycled (from so many places!), and still comes across fresh.
"Well, this may sound silly, but the Science Editor from the Washington Post has a source, a blind source, who says the Vice-President personally told him - the blind source - that the Vice-President interfered to classify a report that a NASA commission, which he heads, has, saying there's life on Mars."
This is an impressive piece of dialogue.
She is an impressive actress.
I loved the west wing and it was even better with MP appearance! Great choice wish he had stayed with us longer. HE was nominated for an emmy for THIS ROLE. Well deserved!
Ironically, in another episode during Barletts first run for the White House he talked about how he made the choice to screw over the farmers to make food more affordable for poor families and it was seen as the noble, compassionate thing.
I don't think CJ can tell the press "Yeah, they got hosed on that one. They got rogered but good."
I don't think CJ's complaint is that food is cheaper, it's that congress gutted the safety net for farmers and now that food is cheaper, the farmers can't afford to operate their farms. The new england dairy compact would have increased the price of milk, so it's not like the farmer was suddenly earning less, it's that the farmer was prevented from becoming richer due to rising food costs. There's a subtle yet important distinction between accepting naturally falling food costs and preventing an artificial increase in food costs.
This ep was one of the best. Watching Perry's character connect the dots on the VP's scandal was excellent.
I agree they should have kept him. I mean, he's smart enough to crack the case of the scandalous VP, but not good enough to keep on staff? :-)
He was still on staff, just not used on screen except because he was also law clerk to the old Liberal Chief Justice. First time, when the Chief Justice wouldn’t retire, and the second time when they got him to retire when a Conservative Justice died, and they decided to get a female CJ and a conservative Associate Justice played by William Fitchner.
I don't understand why they didn't develop his part...he really did a good job in this.
Likely money.. same reason you only saw the White House Counsels seldom even though the 2 main ones were very good actors.
@@scotthartman8993 only one White House counsel was in more than one episode. Lionel Tribbe was a one-off. He was quickly replaced with Babish, who appeared later in season 2, parts of season 3, and then again in season 7.
@@jasonkoch3182 like i said money.. not sure we ever heard the names of the others
Another character we could have happily seen more of.
I love him in Fools rush in.
It such a shame MP wasnt involved in more of Aaron Sorkins projects. His personality lent itself to work perfectly with Sorkinism
So weird to see them here after watching Mr Sunshine and how different the characters are! Been a fan of Matty's since the 90s. Ali fan since ww!
RIP Mr. Perry!
No one has an answer for the dilemma of (a) lower prices for consumers, and (b) lower revenues for producers. That problem is baked in the cake. So I'm not rooting for either side in this argument between Joe Quincy and CJ Cregg. But I do admire how Joe Quincy held his own when hazed by Josh Lyman and CJ. He was a smart, poised character. Like everyone else, I wish he'd been made a permanent part of the cast.
I love the show, love 'em all, but that may be my favorite line ever. I'm the press secretary, boo boo, I don't have that kinda time. Awesome.
I didn’t know he was on this show, after Michael Keaton and Robin Williams, I don’t get nervous over the idea of a having a comedic actor play a dramatic character and RIP Matthew Perry.
i can TASTE the Chandler Bing sarcasm
That's probably because, like Allison Janney, Matthew Perry is a lot like many of the characters he portrays.
Rest in peace, Matthew Perry. You will be forever missed. 😭💔
"It usually takes people the better part of an hour to hate me and everything I stand for."
"I'm the press secretary Boo Boo. I don't have that kind of time." LOL
Aaron Sorkin used a variation of that last line in “Charlie Wilson’s War” 🤓
@ac9milan which ones are you refering to? I noticed the "it usually takes people the better part of an hour to hate me and everything I stand for" which is a rewrite of a line from A Few Good Men between Tom Cruice and Demi More
RIP, Matthew Perry.
I wish our current press sec could be this professional.
@Kasino80 yeah he was also nominated for best guest srar in a drama series twice for this role, all the more reason. But i guess he was still working on Friends.
I guess working as a junior copywriter didn't pay off and Chandler decided to give politics a whirl.
The Bartlet Administration also had a habit of putting their known to be "Republicans" bright minds thst Jed Bartlet wants to hear from i.e. Ainsley Hayes and Joe Quincy, in basement offices.
****spoiler***
Life on Mars episode took an interesting turn via Quincy probing this blind source story for C J Cregg.
"That was a staircase okay? What do want"? Lol
@Kasino80 And who do you think WROTE A Few Good Men? Why Aaron Sorkin of course!
That was Chandler not Quincy.
You can still see the Chandler trying to break free.
Isn’t he the one who took down the VP on his first day there?
Yeppers
There was a handful of good drama series back in the day
That's back when the best shows used to be on network TV. You also had the main Law & Order going strong.
@Kasino80 yeah, that's the one i was talking about!
I'm a teacher and i've called my students boo boo. It works!
Think they didn't keep him because the character's a Conservative who's 1) articulate enough to reduce CJ to snarky straw-man replies (which Sorkin PROBABLY thought were legit rebuttals), 2) witty and snarky himself, in his responses to said replies, and 3) just plain cool as heck?
You know...the Alex P. Keaton effect. And Sorkin couldn't have that for too long...now, could he?
Bingo
I'm fairly confident that isn't the reason.
Yeah that is absolutely not the reason but would you expect anything else than edge and idiocy from someone like him? Also he didnt even understand CJ as she was being sarcastic in her replies so thats the level of smart he has.
Hard Boiled Entertainment
They didn’t keep him, because it’s Matthew Fricking Perry, and he costs a gazillion dollars an episode.
He was brought in for a very specific story arc, and then disappeared back into Ainsley’s old office.
Food is cheaper...? What planet is he living on?
I wish CJ outranked me by like 17 rungs.
You don't work at the White House like Quincy does she outranks you by about 31 rungs.
@@joemckim1183 Then again, @toddjh isn't a fictional character so it might be hard to judge who outranks whom.
Allison Janney could just be on top of me. I wouldn't gripe at all.
Chandler!
RIP matt perry😢
Does the press secretary really have authority.
RIP Quincy.
Press secretary boo boo. 😂😂
Just Friends.
@Hard Boiled Entertainment: by the fifth season Sorkin wasn't on the show.
Personally I think Joe would've been as good as Mulready if Sorkin was still writing the script for the 5th season and beyond.
I'm pretty sure this episode (Not Joe's last ep, but this one) was in season 4, when Sorkin was still there
I love Sorkin's reused lines!
What lines were reused
Mathew Perry could’ve played Sam Seaborne.
I think I would have preferred him
And when those farmers go broke.. can't make money.. their land becomes bought out by banks who sell to Monsanto... and your food at the grocery store, you won't be able to tell what it is.. :)
A person can accomplish a lot by walking and talking fast!
I'd like to reference Boston Legal: "We lawyers are paid by our clients by the hour, so it is our moral obligation to make the most of the time they are paying us for - by speaking fast."
This is exactly why CJ was asked to jump off a cliff.
This video perfectly expresses Democrats. They don't know why or any specifics, but they will hate any conservative without reason. So, ask yourself: Which party is full of prejudicial people?
He's a trans...spons...ster.
Rest in peace
I know this is Hollywood. It made my teeth grind when I heard this.
My experience is that people who claim all sorts of self-righteous superiority over others such as "I hate you and everything you stand for," often end up in real trouble because that superiority is imagined. I looked at this and I thought immediately of the press conference disaster from Josh Lyman, proclaiming his degrees from Yale and Harvard rendered him invincible to the White House Press Corps.
I missed watching this show because the situations seemed relevant. Snide, rude, arrogant remarks like this seem worthy more of a junior high school in Topeka than they do from the White House.
C. J. doesn’t understand supply and demand. But she does understand the value of bailing out political cronies.
CJ saying booboo like that......i'll be in my bunk.