Substitutions and other tricks for non-separable differential equations -- differential equations 4

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  • Опубликовано: 16 сен 2024

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  • @Erik_Caballero
    @Erik_Caballero 2 года назад +3

    Thank you so much for making this series! I'm taking differential equations right now and these videos help so much!

  • @sh0ejin
    @sh0ejin Год назад +2

    for a bernoulli’s diff equation, you can divide both sides by y^r. And take y^(1-r) as a U. This works because U’ ends up being y^-r. If you follow this far, you can see this is a linear first order diff. equation.

  • @Vladimir_Pavlov
    @Vladimir_Pavlov 2 года назад +5

    A very strange approach.
    Bernoulli equation: y' +A(x)*y =B(x)*y^n, n≠0,1 ,substituting z=y^(1-n) reduces to linear. If it is difficult to remember,then divide the original equation by y^n (for n>0, you should not lose the trivial solution y(x)≡0):
    y'/y^n +A(x)/y^(n-1) =B(x), z=1/y^(n-1)=y^(1-n), z' = (1-n)*y^(-n)*y'= (1-n)*y' /y^n.
    We obtain the linear equation z'/(1-n) +A(x)*z=B(x), z'+(1-n)*A(x)*z= (1-n)*B(x).

    • @Oskar-zt9dc
      @Oskar-zt9dc 2 года назад +3

      That is very nice, I think I kinda like your approach more the Michaels

    • @Vladimir_Pavlov
      @Vladimir_Pavlov 2 года назад +2

      @@Oskar-zt9dc If this was MY approach, I would walk with my chest out.))
      But this is a standard, well-known approach, and I was taught that way.

    • @noelani976
      @noelani976 2 года назад

      I guess you are or were an engineering student, Michael is different; he does a lot of Pure Mathematics.

    • @schweinmachtbree1013
      @schweinmachtbree1013 Год назад +2

      @@noelani976 The substitution z = y^(1-n) for reducing a Bernoulli equation to a linear equation is taught in differential equations courses on pure math degrees too. In fact this is the first time I have seen the approach presented in this video, and I have to say it is much more onerous than the substitution (note that it is a very simple substitution; we're just considering some power y^m instead of y).

    • @noelani976
      @noelani976 Год назад

      @@schweinmachtbree1013 Okay, noted!

  • @zeropotential6830
    @zeropotential6830 Год назад +1

    Thank you so much sir for teaching us such important topics at free cost. And obviously you go through these topics thoroughly.

  • @holyshit922
    @holyshit922 2 года назад +1

    Bernoulli differential equation
    You like integrating factor
    There is so called separable integrating factor for Bernoulli equation
    If the Bernoulli equation is in the form
    y'+A(x)y=B(x)y^{r}
    mu(x,y)=exp((1-r)Int(A(x),x))y^{-r}

    • @schweinmachtbree1013
      @schweinmachtbree1013 2 года назад

      I have never heard the term "separable integrating factor" before - does it go by any other name?

    • @holyshit922
      @holyshit922 2 года назад

      @@schweinmachtbree1013 this is integrating factor but in the same form as RHS of separable equation
      mu(x,y)=f(x)g(y)

  • @robin1826
    @robin1826 2 месяца назад

    Thank you!

  • @SuperYoonHo
    @SuperYoonHo 2 года назад +1

    Thank you!!!

  • @sillymel
    @sillymel 2 года назад +1

    (35:59) I disagree here. If the original equation was y’/x^2 = (y^2+xy-x^2)/(x^2), you’d be correct, but both sides of the actual original equation are continuous and equal at x = 0 when y = (3x+x^3)/(3-x^2).

  • @lexinwonderland5741
    @lexinwonderland5741 2 года назад

    I looked up the name on the shirt... man, that is AWESOME music. Great taste!!

  • @schweinmachtbree1013
    @schweinmachtbree1013 Год назад

    There's a mistake at 12:08 - to get _y_ you need to multiply _z_ by e^ _x_ , so you should have cancelled the e^(- _x_ ) in the denominator instead of distributing it through.
    Also you are using the notation y_0 for two different things -- the solution of the homogeneous equation corresponding to a linear equation, and the y value of an initial condition -- and sometimes at the same time, so I would suggest y_h instead of y_0 for the homogeneous solution.

  • @Vladimir_Pavlov
    @Vladimir_Pavlov 2 года назад

    About the last task. If it is possible to solve the differential equation in a general way without using any initial condition, then this is what should be done.
    Because if you change the initial condition, you will have to go back to solving the equation.
    In this case, the general solution (can be tested on any popular computer algebra system) is y(x)= {(x+C*x^3)/(1-C*x^2), where C is any constant ⋃ y(x)=-x}. Formally, the solution y(x)=-x can be obtained for C→∞.
    Now you can set different initial values for both x>0 and x

    • @sillymel
      @sillymel Год назад +1

      I agree that there’s a problem with what he described as the interval of validity, but what you described isn’t it. Note that for 2 to be in the interval of validity, the solution would have to be valid for every x between 1 and 2. However, at x=sqrt(3), which is definitely between 1 and 2, y is discontinuous, so the solution isn’t valid there.

  • @synaestheziac
    @synaestheziac 2 года назад

    I dunno if anyone else is doing the warmup problems but for the second one (x^2*y’+2xy=y^3) I got the following particular solution:
    y=(5/(4x^3(1+4x^5)))^(1/4)
    I guess I should plug it in to check it, but I’m exhausted from solving it… and I’m pretty sure I made a mistake somewhere

    • @jamieee472
      @jamieee472 Год назад

      yea something's wrong there. i got sqrt(5x/(2+8x⁵)) and verified it on wolframalpha

  • @BethKjos
    @BethKjos Год назад

    For some reason this feels like it's going a dozen times farther and faster than my college diff-e-q course. Which is cool, because that was a long time ago in a university far, far away. I do have a question, though. Why do you keep saying "antiderivative" instead of "integral" or "integrate"? Is there a subtle technical difference?

    • @schweinmachtbree1013
      @schweinmachtbree1013 Год назад

      antiderivative means the same thing as indefinite integral, so I guess it saves a syllable (although of course one could just say "integral" with "indefinite integral" being understood, because indefinite integrals are much more common than definite integrals in the study of differential equations)

  • @dodgsonlluis
    @dodgsonlluis Год назад

    Isn't the general solution the sum of the solution for the homogeneous equation and the solution found?

    • @schweinmachtbree1013
      @schweinmachtbree1013 Год назад +1

      The general solution of a linear differential equation is the sum of the corresponding homogeneous equation and the so-called particular solution. E.g. for a linear first-order ODE y' + A(x)y = B(x), letting y_h be the homogeneous solution and y_p be the particular solution we have (y_h)' + A(x)y_h = 0 and (y_p)' + A(x)y_p = B(x), and therefore y = y_h + y_p satisfies the equation since (y_h + y_p)' + A(x)(y_h + y_p) = ((y_h)' + A(x)y_h) + ((y_p)' + A(x)y_p) = 0 + B(x) = B(x). However linearity is essential, so adding a homogeneous solution and particular solution for e.g. a Bernoulli equation y' + A(x)y = B(x)y^r (r ≠ 0, 1) won't work, as you can check.

  • @synaestheziac
    @synaestheziac 2 года назад

    I don’t understand the justification for why the +C can be dropped at 14:48. How exactly can it be absorbed?

    • @Oskar-zt9dc
      @Oskar-zt9dc 2 года назад +1

      It's because u just need one function that satisfies the DE, so you can cancel stuff. It's like you just can substitute whatever you want.

    • @dodgsonlluis
      @dodgsonlluis Год назад

      @@Oskar-zt9dc We have y=A/x (if we want simplify the logarithms) and the terms in the first step disappear too. The constant A disappears in the final result.

    • @synaestheziac
      @synaestheziac Год назад

      @@Oskar-zt9dc okay yeah, because the way we use y_0 is just to replace the left side of the homog. eq’n with zero when it reappears in the inhomog. eq’n. I just got confused when he was talking about the constant being absorbed once y_0 multiplies with z

  • @padraighill4558
    @padraighill4558 2 года назад

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  • @NotoriousSRG
    @NotoriousSRG 2 года назад

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    • @mathmajor
      @mathmajor  2 года назад

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    • @NotoriousSRG
      @NotoriousSRG 2 года назад

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    • @MichaelPennMath
      @MichaelPennMath 2 года назад

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