depends on the sister. im pretty sure Tarianna Palos, the Our Martyred Lady Superia and female narrator (also known for her part time job as Space Elf Murder Jesus Yvrainne) is all about saving the people of the Imperium
They also dislike space marines because THEY betrayed the emperor during the horus heresy. They REVERE the custodes because the custodes never had a single traitor amongst them.
@@nullakjg767 Same logic as the dwarves from Fantasy lol. Humans are weak, because they fall to Chaos. What are you saying abut Chaos Dwarves? Silly you, such thing does not exist!
The thing about the space marines not using cover could be explained by the fact that this (their charge) is happening very quickly. It has been stated that your average space marine can move about 23 meters per second, accelerating almost instantly. Imagine being a necron and seeing a space marine standing 20 meters away on some street then in less than a second you have a chain sword through your chest. If you also consider the fact that the necron weapons are far better at long range but the space marines has the edge in mele, running in instead of taking cover could make sense. Besides the scarabs could probably not give fewer fucks about cover so there is a good chance the space marines would just get swarmed if they tried. Then again, we all know it is mostly to make them look cool.
Also helps explain the melee scenes. What we are seeing is how a space marine sees it, but in actually it's a bluur of sparks, bullets, and fresh corpses.
I’m just gonna be honest, a space marines going twenty meters per SECOND is kind of retarded. Sure it sounds cool for lore or whatever, but can you actually imagine what that’d look like? It’d be like watching someone using speedhacks in a game, I just can’t imaging them going that fast and not looking silly.
@@paralyzedtortoise8446 That's pretty much most of the universe honestly, retarded things that didn't have a lot of thought put into them but it sounds cool so hey why not, like "depleted deuterium" lmao.
@@paralyzedtortoise8446 kinda the point. In a universe with ever evolving fungal orcs that will win almost any war of attrition, the absolute fuckery that is Chaos, and Tyranids humanity needed some absolutely brokenly OP defenders. Plus in 40k humanity has undergone situational eugenics with people being taller, stronger, and more physically capable due to how harsh damn near every world is.
@@paralyzedtortoise8446 For a human it might be fast, almost twice as fast as Usain Bolt, but it's actually not that amassing, they're still slower than a cheetah. Given that they're 8-9 foot tall they'd have huge strides it wouldn't even look that silly. So it comes down to do they have the strength to propel their bulk? With genetic engineering, yeh they do.
"You slicing that person was unnecessary." First, that's not a person. It's a Necron. Second, it's a *NECRON.* They don't exactly stay dead with a fatal wound. The more you render them broken the longer you can be sure it won't get back up.
@@AceTaxiaGaming Two things. 1. If we're going off Fair Use criteria, then CVR (unlike most reactors) is definitely a "content creator" because his works are *transformative*, i.e. they add new meaning (in this case, CVR's experience with US tactical doctrine) to the original IP. 2. The entire point of a reaction is to go in either blind or semi-blind. Blaming a reaction channel for not researching their subject material is like blaming a review channel for pointing out their subject's shortcomings. This hypocrite (he's not a "critic", since that term implies legitimacy and professionalism) doesn't do his own research, then parrots the "reaction videos are lazy and bad" meme to score easy internet points instead of asking "Hey, why are reaction videos usually bad?" He's the epitome of lazy, ill-informed comments.
Or volkite weapons too (provided of course that you aim for exposed areas or weak spots). I believe there was an artwork for siege of tallarn, where a few iron warriors suffer the effects of volkite fire.
@@ivanivanovic5586 I believe that was Phosphex. Pretty sure the Tallarn Desert Raiders didn't have access to Volkite. But one of the Istvaan atrocities had an image of marines being hit by Volkite, I believe.
The Sisters of Battle do not have the benefit of redundant organs, reinforced skeletons, or enough raw muscle mass to unironically compete in gorilla MMA matches. Their armor is lighter and thinner than that of an Astartes, their weapons are scaled down, and their reflexes are slower than a Space Marine's, which is compounded by the fact that they don't have the Black Carapace to neurologically interface with their power armor. The Sisters HAVE to be be tactically mindful because they are still just baseline humans with good wargear, and even then the Sisters of Battle are also batshit insane religious fanatics that will often choose to fight virtually naked and charge _ahead_ of Space Marines. Space Marines, in contrast, are faster, stronger, more heavily armed, their wounds close in seconds, they have redundant organs, the benefit of being able to go into cryptobiotic stasis to survive life-threatening injuries, and they often have the benefit of decades or centuries of martial training. Standing behind cover is advantageous and favored by Chapters like the Imperial Fists, but if an enemy can get through Astartes power armor in the first place, concrete and plasteel is only going to do so much. Better to sprint 100 yards over the course of a few seconds to rush the enemy and overpower them with weight of numbers, brawn, and martial prowess than to give them any advantage at range, which the Necrons generally have over most races since their weapons can disintegrate most materials like a sledgehammer through a sandcastle. Furthermore, standard Necron Warriors are generally slow, unresponsive, and tend to suck at melee due to being mindless automata outfitted with energy rifles that might not even have melee attachments, and higher classes of Necrons generally being few and far between. And it's also typical for SOME Marines to either hold back and lay down suppressing fire, or to fire as they advance. This is why Assault Marines generally carry a melee weapon and a bolt pistol or plasma pistol, even if they aren't outfitted with Jump Packs. Hell, the presence of force field technology in the 40k universe often makes melee a necessity, or have you forgotten those two psychic twins from the Astartes videos who could stop supersonic bolter rounds with their minds?
The halo isn’t just for ultramarines. Also Space marine armor is way thicker than the sisters armor. The fact marines charge so often is because you can outshoot a marine, especially if you’re a necron with a super gun, but you can’t out melee a space marine unless you’re a Ork or Tyranid or other marine. Them closing the distance is the scariest shit ever for anyone else. One good weapon for scarabs is flamers, and before you say they’re made out of metal, there’s literally a concoction of prometheum made just for melting down necrons cause otherwise you’d just have a flaming skeleton.
Prometheum is the older bro of Napalm, basically. Then there's the absolute unit of a Chad Eldest Brother, that is Phosphex. Even VACUUM doesn't instantly put it out, but vacuum is the only way you have even a realistic chance of combatting Phosphex.
@@skebaba918 Then phosphex has a real world counterpart, called N-Stoff in german or Chlortrifluorite aka the strongest oxidizer in history, anything except Gold and copper just burns with a white flame, even glas and the ground burn
Basically Sister of battle faith is so great that they can pull literally miracles (one of their mechanics). Heck their most of Living Saints come from the Sisters of Battle and are among the mightiest beings in the Imperium, said to be blessed by a portion of the God-Emperor's power. They are often able to decimate foes with psychic blasts of holy fire and gifted with an Inviolable Aura which allows near-invulnerability in battle. Many Living Saints can also conjure angelic wings, allowing them to bring righteous death from the air. Death itself is not permanent for a Living Saint as they can be resurrected should the Imperium ever need their help again All Space Marines use the same gear sans very specialiced ones. The halo is usually a Rosarius that generaters a personal force field to defend its wielder. About the sisters of battle vs space marine armor is like comparing an armored civilian vehicle with a tank. Space Marines move much faster than Sister of Battle due to the black caparace without even counting their superior base speed plus the Space Marine's armor has a range of auxiliary systems that improve the Space Marine's effectiveness, including auto-senses made up of thought-activated communications systems, augurs, audio filters, targeting reticules and numerous other features like life support systems and combat stims.Sister of Battle's armor lack most of those plus their armor offers less protection The scene of the SM fighting 1 foe at a time is probably due to SM enhanced reaction speed slowed down so we can see what happens: The SM moves in quickly to eliminate the enemy one by one to avoid being overwhelmed before they can react. Space Marines are not only fast in reflexes but also on speed even if that varies depending on the author For example on the Night Lords Book Talos a traitor Space Marine(but no "gifts" of the Chaos Gods) sprinted at 92 kmph for 10 minutes on uneven terrain before running out of breath
@@fabricatorgeneralunit8726 no, it's more of a less unreliable refractor shield projector. Void shield provides you with 100% reliable shield but it could be overwhelmed and then it turns out. iron Halo gives you a bubble that have 50/50 chance of bouncing bullets off but it does not turn off after deflecting a lascannon shot like the void shield does.
The Necrons are at least partially based off Terminators, since they’re essentially killer robots. They even had an ability in the tabletop called “I’ll be back” in the past. Now they’re no longer emotionless killdroids, but their leaders are loads upon loads enjoyable. Look up Trayzn the Infinite, one of, If not the most famous Necron Lords, and probably the biggest asshole in the galaxy and I love him to bits.
@@timbackman5915 I just see Magnus fanboying around the collection, running from 1 exhibit to another, with Trazin constantly saying something along the lines of "Get in the stasis chamber"
@@timbackman5915 I'm currently listening to The Infinite and The Divine, about 2/3 done with the book. I've never been into Necron lore all that much despite liking their models. But after this? Damn I love these spiteful, scheming bastards :D
The iron halo is energy shield generator.. When Saint Celestine blessed Roboute Gulliman with it, he's confused why everyone thinking its an holy relic when it's just energy shield generator.. 😂😂imo when fighting necron u need to close ur distance ASAP & goes melee ur not gonna match them in fire power & they immortal, the only way to kill them is to push them as fast as ur can & nuked their tomb complex that burried underground
incorrect. Iron Halos are one of many forms of Conversion Field Projector. It protects the bearer by scanning the environment, calculating, and inverting the side of the equation of E=MC^2 inbound projectiles that are determined to impact at. 20 MegaNewton Lasgun shot? its now 50 million atoms of hydrogen with no velocity. incoming Javalin 2 Meltamissile? It gets predetonated as some of its hull is converted into light. How they work on unarmored Commissars is a question worthy of science. Sororitas pattern Power Armor actually does have miniature Conversion Field projectors in it as well, its just that their Faith happens to optimize it so well that they can completely break the efficiency parity
Poor Gullinan, “crowned” by a demon, seeing how weird Cawl has become in 10,000 years, all while an Eldar woman he can barely stand is there. Then the internet turns that into memes.
@@F14thunderhawk Is this Golden Age of Technology stuff or what? I'd assume all civvies would have shit like that on them, just in case, so they can survive until the closest Men of Iron (basically Astartes w/ Imperial Guard numbers, because they are AI Combat Platforms basically) can arrive to eliminate any threat in the area.
@@chrisl4665 He's gonna need a lot of Zoloft for the massive hit of depression he's gonna get when he learns how the emperioum has been doing all this time.
Using cover is situational Taking cover against Necrons is pointless as the Gauss weapons (or worse tesla weapons) will destroy your cover or you'll get swarmed by scarabs. Not to mention if a higher tier unit that can resurrect warriors is nearby someof the 'dead' necrons will put themselves back together and returnto the fight. Necron warriors on the whole have too much of an advantage at range, they have comparatively fewer useful units for melee. You're much more likely to see them take cover against Orks, who are strong melee, but the average orc has abysmal aim. Though their gunz can hit like a freight train so you really don't want to get hit, especially if the More Dakka stratagem is used.
@@-Seeker- well you can see in the animation that the beam decimate the sister's cover in seconds as the beam passes through. if they stayed behind cover they will be instantly hit, might as well run so they can dodge with their astartes' speed and reflexes
@@-Seeker- Here's the thing: The space marines *can't* stand back up after being shot. The Necrons *can*. If they try to engage in a straight shootout, the Necrons automatically win via attrition, as some of them *will* stand back up. However, most necron armies get routed/ fall back when their leaders have been dispatched (the big chungus with the lazer cannon and massive glaive at the end). Thus, the marines/sisters engage in melee to reach the enemy HQ. If they can put *HIM* down, it can end this. TL;DR Necrons can *potentially* stand back up after getting shot down. Thus, they will inevitably win a shootout via attrition.
@@evanchristianA I love how both of you assume that I meant for them to STAY in cover eternally. I said the first shot. After that you can charge all to your heart's content and the enemy missed their opening shot.
@@magnum32b Yes I know Necron lore, thank you. That doesn't negate what I said. Momentary cover once in a while to throw off the enemy is useful. I NEVER talked about long engagements from cover.
Fun fact. The bones on that captain's shield are said to be the remains of the previous captain preserved by the power field. Also, the assault intercessor sergeant totally does a no look behind the back chainsword kill.
I said it back when this trailer came out and I say it again. The skeleton being a former astartes makes no sense. Why? Because of their conversion. Hint: The Ossmodula leads to the fusing of the rib cage into a solid mass of bullet-proof, interlaced bone plates.
In terms of tabletop, Space Marines are the ideal starter army partially because of the amount of chapters and rules they have you can EASILY tailor your Space Marines to whatever sort of playstyle and tactics you want to use. If you like; Bricky has actually done a video on his channel giving tips for tabletop on what is the best army to start with.
0001=year 1, 1001=001 M1, 2001=001 M2 in warhammer 40k terms they say year first then the millennium. The 13th black crusade was launched year 999 millennium 41 so 999 M41 we are in the age of terra year 021 M2, 2021. If i am wrong then correct me. Year 021 millennium 2
I believe the closest thing to a bolter we have atm, is either aa12 with frag12 rounds, or if you want bigger round, mark19 full auto grenade lanucher.
@@ivanivanovic5586 that’s actually about perfect size wise. Regular bolsters are about 20mm, and heavy bolters are about 30mm. So basically those weapons but with fancy future explosives.
The takeaway I get is: bigger than a 12ga round, but smaller than a 30mm cannon round… 0.75” is roughly the diameter of a slug round… but the bolts carry *significantly* more mass/explosive/whatever… So, really no takeaway, yay!
@@paulpolito2001 I’ve spent way more of my life than I’ve should thinking about how these ridiculous weapons work lol. Chain swords are more like table saws than chain saws
Hey Paul, the space marines’ complete refusal to use basic preservation tactics has actually sparked a joke faction in the community: The reasonable marines. A heretical(but still loyal) chapter that astoundingly values conventional military tactics, rather than running head first into any engagement.
And they even DARE to offer the enemies of man the chance to...to.. SURRENDER (except chaos for obvious reasons...and probably orks? Anything that will obviously never surrender
Iron halos are usually used to denote captains, they also serve a purpose as the generator of a personal shield bubble. The color scheme sugges ultramarines. The red helmet is used to denote a sergeant in the ultramarines.
This dude (the boxer who took a few too many blows to the head) doesn't do research, half a Google search would tell him this basic shit. Not like he saw the Ultramarines in bricky's fucking video
In terms of what army to start, the single best piece of advice i can give, is to pick the faction you find coolest. As far as how to start them, most factions have a "start collecting" kit, and/or a "Combat Patrol" kit. Both are good value compared to buying your kits individually, but Combat Patrol boxes will give you a roster that can be fielded for play right away in the smallest typical game mode: combat patrol (500 points)
Also i would recommend getting battlescribe on your pc (a program that helps you write and organize your army lists) and look at some youtube guides for how to use it and put together lists generally.
Also you will need the core rule book, and the codex for your army. Core rules come packed in with the starter editions if you are interested in running either space marines or necrons (they come in the starter box that people have been suggesting to you).
I not much of a lore expert but, the iron halo that the shield captain wears is a personal energy shield that is awarded as a metal of honor. The reason I am sure of this is the the Lamenters were awarded one from the Ultra Marines for liberating a planet from the orks, they declined because in the fight to liberate the plant they murdered the Human slave camps to halt the orks production. The declining of the Iron halo caused the Ultra Marines to distrust and dislike the Lamenters
The reason in this case for the seemingly unjustified charge actually reflects the mechanics of the game. Necron weapons are more ranged focused and eat through armor, meaning that unless a necron army has been specialized for melee the best way to minimize losses will be to close to melee with them as fast as possible.
Notice how when the sisters of battle came out full force they made sure to get behind a line of space marines. lol Even out in the open they knew to use cover, in that case the hulking masses of the space marines.
The halo is called an Iron Halo. Iron Halos are typically given to Captains. It gives off an energy field that allows for resisting wounds and stopping damage. Those were Ultramarines in the battle. The cheapest 40k army to start is the Custodes as it requires the fewest number of models to make an army. Space marines are probably the next cheapest and a Combat Patrol box is supposed to get you a 25 power lever or 500 point game with them +/- depending on the box. Indomitus was a great box set at the time but was limited release and had 2 factions in it just like the starter sets.
2:10 - As commissar Cain puts it in the book Duty Calls: "That was all we needed, a bunch of psalm-singing fanatics in power armour getting in the way of a properly co-ordinated military response. I hadn’t had much personal contact with the Ecclesiarchy’s orders militant in the past, but on the few occasions I had done, I’d found their undeniable martial prowess so closely allied with the worst kind of Emperor-bothering tunnel vision that deploying them effectively in anything resembling a coherent battle plan was all but impossible. The best you could hope for was to point them in the vague direction of something important to the enemy, shout ‘heretic!’ and leave them to it. If you were lucky they’d put a useful dent in the opposing forces, and even if they didn’t, at least you’d got them out of the way before they started preaching at you."
In the FFG RPG "Black Crusade" those Necron scarab swarms were the bane of Space Marines, because for balance reasons Space Marines couldn't dodge hordes and the scarabs, though weak packed a lot of fire power up close.
Gripes about one at a time melee fights? Welcome to just about every action movie game or t.v. show ever. As for Necron warriors, don’t expect a sense of self preservation. That’s the mental capacity of Immortals or above. Warriors are our chattle, our disposable garbage. Basically zombies with guns. Lastly, sitting in cover likely is unwise with the scarab swarms. Running past them seemed to incur less casualties. Better to fight the devastating ranged attackers in melee where they are significantly weaker while not blinded by a cloud of those vicious little mecha-bugs.
The halos usually is reserved for higher ranking space marine and is also a shield generator. As for scarab vs space marine, a squad of space marine would most likely have someone (or an entire other squad) with a different weapon layout like a flamer to deal with swarm enemy type. The bolter/chainsword is just the most popular so in the trailer it goes XD.
The Sisters aren't under any obligation to link up and fight with Guardsmen, but they often do. They'll show up and start performing miracles like healing the wounded, often asking the Guardsmen around them to pray with the sisters, or sing battle hymns. The point is the Sisters will incorporate the Guardsmen into activating the miracle to bolster their faith, which in turn makes the Guardsmen fight fanatically. After all, the Emperor's most faithful showed up and personally asked the Emperor to bless them.
That...or they shoot them all for being HERETICS due to how the regiment worship's the emperor... really depends on the sisters and why the best way to use them is still the method Ciaphas Cain uses. Point at the enemy, scream heretic as loud as you can and stay out of the way of the crazy nuns with guns as they charge the enemy
"Space Marines...their unwillingness to use cover fascinates me..." The question is: Why would a genetically engineered Super Soldier with 19 extra Organs, to make him (at least in the Lore Books) nearly unkillable, covered with Mark VIII Power Armor, which turns him into a walking Tank, that only heavy Weaponry starts to scratch it (in the Lore), would need extra cover? He IS the Cover. More Cover would be a Space Marine in Terminator Armor, which is basically a walking personal Bunker. And even more cover than that, would be a Dreadnought.
The Shield the Marine is useing is a Storm Shield, that in addition to beining a slab of metal is also a very powerfull energy shield generator. Also figthing Necrons in Melee is denying them their guns. The best Gun in the Galaxy won't help you if someone is trying to bash your head in with a rock.
Your comments about Necrons and cover fire are dead on. The base Necron warriors are barely conscious automatons with no real sense of self preservation. (A side effect of getting the uh...budget download during the transference process.) As a result, they'll completely ignore incoming fire unless told to take cover by commander, and most Necron commanders are not known for valuing the lives of their individual subjects. Especially now that said subjects are basically ghosts of their former selves.
Even more so since pretty much all basic Necron units can (Relatively) casually be resurrected so long as a lord is nearby, with just the right kind of ball in his hand.
Hi there ! I saw that loremasters already told yo uabout some of your questions in the comments :) I'll add some little things here and there about my experience on the tabletop :) First, in the lore as well as on the tabletop game, Necrons are better than marines in term of firepower and ranged fight, so a firefight will always eventually turn in favor of the Necrons. It is also the case with Tau and Eldars. So when fighting these factions, staying stuck behind a cover that is not necessarily more protective than your armor will only grant you a few seconds before the covers themselves are obliterated and disintegrated on a molecular level. On the other hand, marines are far superior at close range, against most units of these three factions, so their objecive will be to rush in the no man's land as quick as possible because even if they take a lot of casualties, the survivors will do the job. One thing that is always underrepresented in the videos is the speed of a space marine : in full armor, they are quicker than human world class athletes but videos always make them appear heavy and kinda clumsy because it visually makes them appear powerfull and inexorable. I had several experiences of that on the tabletop : unloading terminators from transports and charging with all I got, yes, I took a lot of models off the board, but when I engaged in melee, my god, that was brutal and quick ! :) Also, you are definitely right : swarms of scarabs are the doom of elite armies like space marines. To counter them : flamers, frag ammo, plasma, psychic powers and melee, because yes, a space marine can behead six oponents at a time, and besides he can kill with every part of his body, so basically he can crush a lot of scarabs with his feet and fists. Though in the end the scarabs could overwhelm them, yes, definitely. Sisters don't have SM level power armor, but I see that someone already gave into much detail on the subject ;) And for the shield guys, they are usually veterans and not numerous enough to cover all their comrades. You also fight with what you have at hand : in another context, it would be possible to have lots of shield wielders on the field, but the Ultramarines are not Imperial fists (they, on the other hand, focus on shields and defensive tactics) It's not an Omega, it's an Ultima ;) (inverted Omega, obviously)
The halo around their head is actually a piece of kit called the iron halo. The iron halo actually projects an energy field to block or reduce incoming fire. Basically a force field. It is often only gifted to senior space marines so it can also be seen as a sign of rank. Long story short, the halo is a badge of seniority and a piece of kit, it is not unique to the ultramarine and those are ultramarine. You were right about the primaris. It's also funny you mention microwave guns. There used to be a class of weaponry called volkite which were basically heat rays. They fell out of favor during the horus heresy because they had trouble with penetrating space marine armor as well as how complex they were, so their production was roughly discontinued.
The Indominuts box is great because it'll start you off with two small forces; both space marines and Necrons. To get your feet wet though and to start out with a few paints they sell little starter boxes that are 1-3 models with a few pots of paint. I'd honestly start there and if you get hooked you know where to go next already
Ohhhh! That is exactly where the fun is. But I am still going to pointlessly analyze questions like "can the bug swarm write a poem?" or "Do Necron dreams not make any sense like human dreams??"
I like that even though you're nitpicking-ly criticizing every video (which is what the videos are about), it seems like you are genuinely interested in the lore. I've been watching your videos since you first were exposed to warhammer and it's crazy to see how deep you've dived into the specifics of it. Anyway, you're enthusiasm in just learning about a fictitious setting to sell miniatures is what keeps me watching.
1) A space marine would not have any problem hitting a scarab mid air, space marine armour litteraly auto aims and does calculations if the target is not too far away. And astartes can actually aim better than their computer (?) if the target is further away. Remember that bolted round are rocket propelled so they won’t slow down and have almost no drop. Ammunition would more likely be the problem. 2) Also it makes perfect sense to charge if you are a space marine. You compare the combat with modern day warfare but there is a crucial difference; the weapons today far outshines the individual protection, and bullets can be delivered in such quantity that any charge is negated. Have been like that since atleast WWI. Combat with a space marine should be compared more to medieval times. Most hand weapons (even most necron ones) can not go through space marine armour faster than the space marines can get to the person wielding the weapon. Think armoured knight charging a bowman. Not modern day soldier charging a machine gun... also some of the marines have op storm shields... And space marines are much more efficient in qcq than at range vs a human sized combatants. They are so fast and so strong that anything moral (unfortunately not the necrons) are petrified by a charge for the cheer impossibility of something so strong and heavy to be able to move that fast. It’s called trans-human-dread. Charges was one of the most efficient strategies until 1800 hundreds or so. For example the Swedish kings used a strategy named gå-på during the pike and gunline warfare. The whole point was to charge a gunline and close the distansen to rout a much larger army. It work, Sweden with its relatively small army beat the Russian army partly thanks to this strategy during the early 18th century.
1. Faith in the emperor is cover. 2. They're Ultramarines; not Imperial Fists. Imperial Fists would be more mind tuned to use shields as Ultramarines are numbers, speed and maneuverability over static positions though it does seem they did try to set up a gun line to cover the assault element but alas, lack of cover and scarabs ruined that.
The Halo is a shield generator usually given to a captain or above. It's called un-creatively the Iron Halo. Also Necrons don't die. They dematerialize and are reconstructed in either a ship orbiting the planet or a tomb complex under the planet. Then their telephoned back into battle. Necron tactics are basically built around the fact that they functionally immortal.
The sisters do have a mechanic to cheat your way out of a wound. They get miracle dice, which are rolled when they are created, and then sit around with that value until used, and later they can use those dice in an "act of faith" to use the value of a miracle dice and discard it, instead of rolling to determine the outcome of some rolls, which does include saving throws.
Point of fact Primaris Space Marines are the upgraded space marines, with many Chapters either bolstered by the newly engineered forces (all of whom were recruited just after the end of the Heresy) or entirely new chapters formed out of Primaris. But the regular Space Marines at this time can undergo the upgrade process (known as crossing the Rubicon - because you can't go back) which is a very painful and excruciating process, and the first to do so was an Ultramarine Chapter Master Marneus Calgar.
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Space marine armour can shug off quite a bit more than sororitas armour. A modern grenade launcher might knock an astartes slightly off balance but the amour its self would be left relatively unscathed
@@CombatVeteranReacts space marines are much larger and with thr advantage of having the black carapase allowing them to connect their nervesystem to their armour, despite being quite heavy, the armour actually further enhances a space marines strength and speed while a sororitas armour will enhance their strength it cant read their movements to the same degree. Sororitas also use a bolter pattern that is scaled down for human use
Regarding the whole suicide scarab thing- that's actually something they can do in game - if you run lots of scarab swarms it can be a nasty surprise for the enemy when one of them just dumps a pile of mortal wounds on a unit.
4:25 Kind of. The save thing is a universal mechanic that most models get armor saves and some get an “Invuln” save on top of that. The Sisters’ unique thing is that they have a special resource that lets them rig their rolls (you get “miracle dice” when certain things happen that you immediately roll and you spend them by using one of them for a dice roll instead of leaving it to chance). You can use this to get around the randomness to an extent and guarantee a shot hits, or to ensure you tank something, or have an especially good melee attack, etc. It’s very powerful but you don’t get a ton of these dice so you have to spend them carefully
@@CombatVeteranReacts They're also a renewable combat resource, being able to build more swarms of them mid-combat with use of Canotek Spyders. They're a great role filler in the army.
Think with the running thing it’s more that you don’t want to end up in a gunfight with necrons, they have far superior firepower at range. Space marines have a huge advantage in melee combat so they probably just aren’t willing to fight at ranged against superior firepower.
Yeah, they want to end the fight as quickly as possible because the longer the fight goes on the more shots they're going to take from Necron guns which they can only handle so many of.
I love the horror on the guardswoman's face when her friend gets atomized. It's the little details like that that make the characters feel human, and makes you root for them.
If I remember correctly, the pointed Halo is some sort of shorttime shipgrade powershield device, creating for a short amount of time a practicly unpentratable bubble. In my compleatly nonhumble oppinion, the Necrons are the most powerfull faction in the entire W40k universe, If they would awaken all at once, nothing could stopp there endless hords of undying armies~ not even Chaos it self. I vagely remember that Chaos lost to the Necrons and was forced to abandon there realworld holdings once long ago. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Stuff to note (most people have already pointed these out so I'm just adding to the emphasis) - Yes, sisters of battle perform acts of faith to do pretty supernatural stuff. - Those are ultramarines. Primaris ultramarines specifically. If you keep looking at primaris next to regular (or firstborn as they are called) marines, you start to see the differences. - The guy with the shield is a captain. The iron halo is not just an indicator of rank, it's also pretty useful wargear that generates a power field around him. Iron halos are not exclusive to the ultramarines, they exist within pretty much all chapters, and their appearance will vary depending on the chapter (for example, blood angel iron halos are usually chalice-shaped or halo-shaped with blood drop ornaments). - Most space marines are so zealous that they will almost always charge the enemy head-on despite how tactically unsound it may be. Their zealotry leads them to believe they are in themselves the only sufficient cover. And the fact that in most instances this is indeed the case, only adds to the fire.
As far a boxes go here are my recomendations: The Indomitus boxes are hard to get hold of, avoid that pathway. For starting out there are three box types that are good for the level of beginner: all three contain an army of Space Marines and Necrons. Recruit - 20 Push to fit Miniatures plus gaming mat, rulers, dice, Transfers, Datasheets and the recruit starter Guide Elite - 27 Push to Fit Miniatures, Gaming Mat, Rulers, dice, Transfers, Datasheets and Elite Starter Guide Command - 27 Push to Fit Miniatures, 30" by 22.4" gaming board, Push fit plastic terrain, The Warhammer 40,000: Command Manual, Range rulers and dice, Datasheets, A Space Marines Transfer Sheet with over 600 transfers, Warhammer 40,000: The Rules softback book. (The Core book would be needed to be bought seperatly) Recently Games Workshop release new starter army boxes to replace their "Get Started" boxes, Known as "Combat Patrol" and include the following forces: Dark Angels - 10 Miniatures Adeptus Mechanicus - 15 Miniatures Deathwatch - 15 Miniatures Death Guard - 39 Miniatures Necrons - 15 Miniatures Space Wolves - 17 Miniatures Blood Angels - 15 Miniatures Space Marines - 18 Miniatures Drukhari - 18 Miniatures Each box contains Soldier Units and at least one Vehicle Unit Then there are the Paints and the other tools, but that can be covered another time.
I am disappointed in the lack of heavy flamers knowing they were going against the Necron. Heavy flamers are supremely effective at dealing with a mass of scarab. If a marine has them on them, a little once-over with the flamer does well at removing them.
I haven't seen a video in which the author considers necrons, so some things could have already been heard... 1) The starting point of the imperial calendar is not the Birth of Christ, but the first human flight into space, i.e. 1961. Therefore, our year 2021 according to the imperial calendar will be M1.060 2) Not only the Sisters of Battle are capable of Acts of Faith. Anyone who sincerely and fervently believes in the Emperor is capable of this. And Acts of Faith are not limited to healing. After all, these are divine miracles. 3) The Warhammer 40,000 universe, despite the entourage , is a fantasy. And, as in many other fantasy universes, there are undead in Warhammer. In 40k, the undead are represented by the necron race. The simplest undead troops are skeletons and zombies. From the first appearance, from the second vitality and slowness, to put everything in metal - that's the basic necron warrior for you. Zombies are usually represented as stupid and slow - so no hiding places. Only a blunt attack in the forehead. 4) The Sisters of Battle, like other Adeptus Sorroritas, have a negative attitude towards Space Marines. In most Orders, the Emperor is revered not as a God, but as ... the founder. They admit that He created primarchs and legions. But not as a God. Because of this, in the eyes of the Sisterhood, Space Marines are heretics. Yes, and the genetic modifications of the paratroopers from the point of view of the sisters are mutations and heresy (turning a blind eye to the fact that these modifications come from the Emperor). But they are too useful for the Imperium to openly try to destroy them. Which wouldn't stop some fanatical sister from giving the Astartes a little shit. And such battles, when Astartes are shoulder to shoulder fighting with Sorroritas , are not the most common thing that can be found on the battlefield. 5) That shield fighter is just an animated old miniature Astartes. The claims are not to the animators, but to those who came up with such miniatures. 6) The original plot moves of the necrons are the legacy of later editions. Initially, the cyberzombi had only a hatred of life and the inspiring will of K'tan P.S.: An online translator was used to write this post. Therefore, I ask you not to pay attention to strange constructions of phrases, etc.
If you like necrons then I'd advise the following. Recruit Edition starter set, Paint + Tools set, undercoat, Tamiya Ultra thin plastic cement. For about $115 you would get undercoat, 12 paints, 1 textured base paint, starter paint brush, mould line scraper, clippers, plastic glue, 20 minis, basic rules, and a VERY simple game mat and building. The space marines may not appeal to you but the recruit edition is only $5 more than a box of necron warriors on their own and you get 10 necron warriors, 3 scarab swarms, necron royal warden, marine lieutenant, and 5 man marine assault squad. It will let you try your hand at painting two very different factions to a basic battle ready standard that can be greatly improved upon with only a few more colours, if you enjoy painting. If you decide to delve deeper then you have something to build from. If you hate it or another faction takes your fancy you haven't spent much on painting practice minis.
A little strange when you talk about fire and movement and use of cover as if it's the be all and end all of tactics in a universe with tyranids, orks, necrons and more. First off, Space Marines don't always use cover for a good reason. Their armour is better than whatever cover they might hide behind. Secondly, they're shock weapons. They have to be moving forward. If you reduce Space Marines to just a basic rifle team then what's the point? You might as well just field more guardsmen. A regiment of guard will outshoot a space marine company any day of the week in sheer firepower. Moving on, Space Marines do use fire and movement. They also have devastator squads with heavy weapons for this reason, to provide suppressive fire and create kill zones as well as tackle bigger threats like tanks, large and powerful enemies like the Carnifex or just purge entire areas with heavy flamers and melta weapons. Space Marines have three components. Assault squads are recon, close combat and are basically your fast moving support. They can recon forward, they can hang back and jump in when you need to fill a gap or they can quickly rush and take over a position or break an enemy. Devastators provide the heavy weaponry and the cover fire for the rest of the larger unit. Tactical squads are the most experienced and they're generalists. They are the ones who will be seizing and holding ground and exploiting opportunities. The devastators provide cover so the tactical squads can move up. The assault squads recon for the other two to set up in good positions or to take the best advantage of the situation. The assault squads rush a position and then hold it just long enough for tactical squads to then reinforce them, followed by devastators. When you're a guardsman fighting a tyranid or ork wave, what is the point in fire and movement? You have to get as many rounds downrange as possible. You cover is going to be pointlessly trapping you once a gaunt or an ork with an axe just close the distance and at that point, your unit is just dead. Sometimes it's just better to form up a big old firing line outside of cover and just mow down that wave of tyranid gaunts with volley after volley of lasgun fire, backed by your other heavy weapons like bolters, flamers, artillery, mortars, etc. If you're fighting necrons, they will sit in cover at range just firing at you. The only way to beat necrons is to just quickly overwhelm them and break up their cohesion. The longer it drags out, the worse it is for the guardsmen or space marines who have to deal with them. Hell, for Space Marines, they drop in via drop pod, from orbit, and the whole point is speed and aggression to break the enemy before he can figure out how to deal with them. Sitting in cover and moving up is ridiculously suicidal when you can just run up, tank the hits with your power armour and overrun the position.
I'd say the effectiveness of Astartes was from conventional tactics being mostly thrown out the window. In most cases, their power armor and superior physiology WERE the cover. Any enemy force relying on conventional suppressive tactics to keep them buttoned up and hunkered down would shatter in the face of of an enemy just plowing right through it, like if tanks were deployed in the Battle of Hastings.
A few points from the video: Start Collecting boxes are a good place to start, most factions have one. Otherwise just start with a basic troop box and get used to painting with them. Scarabs are absolutely great for bogging down and killing Space Marines, in a recent game my opponent's Scarab unit did a number to a squad of Chaos Marines. Space Marines tend to be superior combatants in melee combat, so they'll often break cover to engage at close range. In game and in universe they're more likely to lose protracted firefights against opponents such as Necron Warriors or the Tau Fire Caste even when taking advantage of cover, so they'll accept the casualties of the charge for the advantage they hold in melee.
5:55 Space Marines ignoring cover was a mechanical oddity and dates back to older editions of 40k. In the 5th edition rules for example, a unit of models could roll ONE saving throw for each wound suffered by the unit (first roll to hit, then to wound). The save could be from armour, cover or some device that granted an invunerable i.e. undeniable save. The source of your choice i.e. the highest dictated your save. From the Warhammer 40,000 5th edition core rulebook page 21 COVER CHART Cover type - Save a) Razor wire, Wire mesh - 6+ b) High Grass, Crops, Bushes, Hedges, Fences - 5+ c) Units (friends and enemies), Trenches, Gunpits, Tank traps, Emplacements, Sandbags, Barricades, Logs, Pipes, Crates, Barrels, Hill crests, Woods, Jungles, Wreckage, Craters, Rubble, Rocks, Ruins, Walls, Buildings, Wrecked Vehicles - 4+ d) Fortifications - 3+ Space Marines had an armour save of 3+ or success on three or higher on a d6 - six-sided die. Thus, they NEVER had a reason to stay in cover since they were "walking cover" and could shield weaker units by blocking line of sight. Since the fiction sells the models, GW has kept Marines running at their foe ignoring tactically more viable options - less so on 9th edition. Edit: Microwave weapons are a great idea. If the ceramite armour had no reflective coating, the microwaves could cause a thermal run off and not cook, but explode from within. Cooking or really just heating would be horribly painful, but not instantly deadly. Weaponization would be rather difficult due to loss of energy to ambient water vapour and other compounds especially at long ranges. In our world that could be done at in near contact (< 1 m), but the power source and power storage as always would make this impractical as a weapon. Plasmas, meltas and explosives would be far more reliable and safer in terms of potential collateral damage.
That Guardsman would've been a burden for this Sister, because the training and equipment of Sister is much better than those of regular Guardsman. The Iron Halo is not unique for only the Ultramarines. They can be in any Chapter of Astartes. Though they're only reserved for the most senior members of the Chapter. And the cover is actually kinda useless against the Necrons. Especially with the size of an Astartes. And considering that they're wielding weapons that can turn into atmos anything in it's way when shooting. Just not that fast. And the simple Necrons don't think for themselves. They're too... I shall say "robed" of their ability to think. They're like the old Necrons - mindless automatons, who follow commands and can't mostly do anything except that. And the Scarabs are not kinda combat ones...They're designed to build, repair and harvest things, but not to kill. It came only as a side effect, I think. The Necron Warriors are too unthinking to think and cooperate. Without anyone of high-ranking necrons.
The Indomitus box is now out of production but there are other starter sets that offer figures for less than the individual squad sets. Any of the boxed army sets will offer a saving over buying units individually and if you aren't worried about the game then it doesn't matter how effective the selection is on the table. The introductory paint sets for both marines and necrons come with some figures but you are limited to Ultramarines.
Necron infantry like warriors are usually commanded by some form of leader (lord, overlord) and have basically no personality since they're soulless. Thats why they won't use cover or do some advanced tactics. The necron lords are somewhat connected to their army and they send some kind of impulses to let them fight
An Iron Halo is a personal shield generator that protect the Marine from incoming fire. As they are very rare, usually only senior members of the Chapter are granted it use.
The necrons are basically 40k’s version of zombies or liches, so they’re pretty sluggish but they’re extremely resilient so you can’t be too thorough to ensure they stay down
What you said about the Scarabs is actually a entirely valid strategy, they move fast, get in close, CAN hit hard if luck is in your favor (6's are either exploding 6s or auto-wounds, I forget.) and you have a stratagem that costs you a command point, but it allows you to explode one of your scarab models to cause d3 mortal wounds. And if you have a Scarab Hive, you can regenerate that sacrificed scarab. And if you use a certain dynasty, each of those scarabs have op sec, meaning they can hold and contest objectives.
The iron halo is not only a mark of rank and skill but it's also a projector for some arcane half understood personal shield technology. So it serves both a ceremonial and a practical purpose
4:25 In game it's called "Miracle dice" You can get it from different ways but it's basicly this: You roll 1 dice and take it to the side. whatever the result is you can use that number instead of the dice that you are currantly rolling. It can be very OP.
Iron Halo is also essentially an old force field too. Super rare. The ultramarines, as an old chapter with lots of loot essentially, have more than other chapters.
Not quite true about the armors of sisters and space marines being the same. True, they are both power armors, but space marine armor is a modern Abrams while the sister's armors is a Sherman. They're both tanks, but one is far more advanced.
Couple things: Space marines have really, REALLY good armor. Their armor is better, and they are genetically engineered compared to an adeptus sorritas. Secondly, I can see why it is smart for a space marine to take cover, but space marines (specially in lore) can take heavy punishment and keep pushing forwards, so cover usually is over seen. Thridly, Necrons tend to not do so well in melee combat, although they do have special units like Destroyers made for melee, the general army isn't that good in close combat. So charging the Necrons with space marines isn't the worst idea, since Necrons have better guns and has a good chance of beating the marines in a fire fight.
As far as getting into the tabletop, a few tips: 1) The best faction to start with is ALWAYS the one you like the most. Building and painting an army’s worth models is an endurance race and getting and keeping the motivation to keep going is the hardest part. So while there ARE armies that are easier or harder to paint, if you don’t like how the faction’s lore, aesthetics, or playstyle, don’t buy it just because it’s more “beginner-friendly” and ESPECIALLY not because it’s doing well in the competitive meta. 2) With all the vids you’ve been watching, you’re probably starting to get a good idea for which factions’ lore and aesthetics you like, but playstyle can be a little hard to gauge w/o actually, well, PLAYING. Luckily, there are a couple good ways to “try before you buy.” The Games-Workshop-approved ways are to go to a local game store (esp. a GW specific one) on a 40k game night and see if any of the folks there would be willing to let you play their army (or a small subset of their army) for a demo game OR to buy into the small-squad variant game 40k Kill Team, which are basically rules to let you play (still in 8th edition currently) satisfying games with much smaller forces. You can also test things out on a virtual tabletop like Tabletop Simulator, which’ll give you maximal freedom to test things out, and the only really good socially distanced option but since they can let people play without buying GW’s models GW doesn’t like it. 3) If you really don’t have a preference between multiple factions, the general rules of thumb for what makes a faction more newbie-friendly are: (A) fewer, more elite models, like space marines, custodes, & knights (B) lots of large flat surfaces without as many tiny details, like space marines & tau (C) Wide diversity of effective tactics that let you adapt to different opponents, like Space marines, admech, or guard (D) More recent & frequent updates to the model line so you don’t feel abandoned in the long-term...like space marines. You will note that Space marines are (quite deliberately) in literally ALL of those categories, but most have at least one or two ways in which they are “easier” than others. 4) Some factions can play on the same team, some can’t, so if you have multiple interests that can team up, there’s no real harm in getting some of each. The specifics have changed from edition to edition but last I checked in 8th edition, any Imperium faction can be allied (which is called an “Imperial Soup” army), any Chaos human (including chaos space marines, renegade knights, and traitor guard-same as imperial guard, just allied with Chaos and covered in more spiky bits) or demon factions can play together (“Chaos Soup”), any Eldar faction can play together (“Eldar Soup”), Tyranids can play with Genestealer Cults, and Tau can play alongside Farsight Enclaves Tau or “Gue’Vesa” (same as Imperial Guard, but allied to the tau instead of the Imperium and covered in more shiny bits) 5) Most factions have something called a “start collecting box” which generally gives you enough models to make a small core to start an army. Some are better deals than others and some include units that aren’t actually all that useful, so you’ll want to check whether the ones for the faction you picked is a good deal, but they are ALL cheaper than buying the models separately. And some factions have other special deal boxes like that, like the Indomitus box, so take a look for the factions that interest you.
While I can't really suggest an army, might I suggest that you start with Kill Team which is basically Warhammer on a smaller tactical scale where you control maybe a squad or two of troops. This naturally results in a lower barrier to entry as there are fewer models to acquire and collect not to mention you can easily take your Kill Team models and use them in the full army in the future. If I might make a suggestion if you go this route....try a bit of a theme and make an Imperial Guard kill team with the units in the kill team being based off of you and your soldier buddies just translated into Warhammer. Would be fun at least and allow you to add personality to your soldiers.
Necrons scarabs got a cool rule on tabletop game : For every 6 on the dices you roll to hit your enemy, this enemy suffer a caualities that cannot be saved. It represent be overwhelm by thousand of this thing. Even tanks fear them when there are in large number.
This thing over the head of the spacemarine is an iron halo. It is a sign of seniority and leadership amongst them. It is also a protectiondevice, because it has an integrated forcefieldgenerator. You can equip a spacemarinecaptain with it, for extrapoints.
You do make a good point at 11:00. Space Marine's big weakness is their lack of numbers. That's why armies that tend to be the most effective against them in melee are the ones that can swarm them like you said. Orks and Slaanesh Daemons come to mind.
On the "cover" issue, that Captain especially simply would not care. He has his armour, he has an energy shield projector on his backpack, he has a physical shield, and that physical shield ALSO has an energy shield projector! I think he can go without cover. 😛
You could say the Nercons react slower than Space Marines because their machines. They are always calculating and readjusting their aim to shoot a fast moving target. Getting in melee range is the best choice for Space Marines but the problem is not getting shot when your trying to get in melee range.
The best way to get into Warhammer. Is just go to your local GW store, check out the boxes they have there. Then ask them to help set you up with the paints and stuff you need. Staff out here in DFW were quite helpful. I went with a Custodes army btw, cheap (relatively) and mostly just gold
The Halo is a "Iron Halo" its a piece of technology that has in it a refractor shield. think typical sci-fi shielding tech but less realiable. They are usually issued to high important people, as having your officers not die easily is a good thing on the battlefield. As for the Charging bit, that was actually a bit of tabletop flare here, look at the tiles of on the ground, this is a bit of a cinematic 40k tabletop game style Also when fighting Neroncs, theres are basically 3 options you have fighting them. 1: Be as mobile as possible as the Necrons soldiers software/remnants of their minds isnt that fast and their targeting while accurate as hell isnt as swift to react to changes. 2: Go into close combat for similiar reason but there you have the advantage of their software trying to mitigate friendly fire 3: Just surrender and hope that the local overlord is one of the more reasonable ones that just try to restore their civilisations and not the crazy ones
i think this quote explains you alot about space marines and covering or camouflage: camouflage is the color of fear...i have no need to hide from my foes...i have no fear of death. my colors i wear openly, they proclaim louder than any words. i am proud to live, i am proud to die
They are the Necrons, they near unkillable and will probalby heal from getting its chest cut open given time, so probably resonable to remove its head. Ofc in older lore there were stories where they were hit by melta weapons and reduced to siver puddles, and a Necron Lord with a ressurection orb still get them to repair themselves. These are definitely Primaris, but i am resonable sure they are Ultramarines. And yeah the Halo is common across legions sometimes with small variations in appearence. Mostly reserved for seniority or special people who has earned them in some way. The space marine power armor is much stronger, tougher and thicker than the sisters of battle and the standard necron warrior is a drone, i will not take cover or duck at all. Ofc the point that cover is important for marines stands that much stronger since at least lorewise a shot from a necron Gauss weapon will kill a marines outride if he is hit. I would say that due to training and psudo since the marine could probably hit the scarabs, but its true they can overwhelm them, so they are best fought with area weapon. And they'll happy eat through a marine or a tank As for cooking a marine in his armor, large parts of it Dark Imperium is a good starting box space marine primaris vs. deathguard both two factions has beautiful models in the box. Custodes are easy starting because every model is expensive pointwise. Kill team can also be a really good place to start, fewer models required and they can be individualized. Or just go with whatever faction you think is coolest Keep up the good work.
The iron halo is indicative towards the seniority within the majority of chapters yes since its meant to be a shield generator device of a kind to protect commanding officers or veterans, its similar to the Crux Terminatus that Marines in Terminator armor would have or the Rosarius that would be awarded to Space Marine Chaplains.
Some lore about IRON HALOS :The Iron Halo emits a very strong Conversion Fieldaround its wearer, which makes his armour even harder to pierce with enemy ranged and melee weapons. In addition it also provides its user with immense resilience to even the most potent weapons such as Lascannonsand missiles of all varieties. The energy shield the Halo generates stands a good chance of deflecting many deadly projectiles that would slay even an unprotected Space Marine with ease. Note: i even heard of iron halos that act more as deflector shield bending projectile vector in such a way to not hit the space marine... the effect is strongest around the head (this is why some some space marines feel no need to wear a helmet anymore.)
The iron halo is a device every chapter uses. It is a shield generator that can be used to defend against attacks that would normally ignore the armor, like a lascanon, melta weapons, big artillery hits and such. It is usually only available for captains and chapter masters because it is so rare. Terminator armor has a similar effect and Chaos forces use a similar game effect but it is called dark aura there. Yep, they are Primaris but still Ultramarines. They wear an upside down omega symbol btw, the normal omega symbol is used by the Alpha Legion (who are also sort of blue-ish). In TTS big E calls it a toilet seat :-) On the tabletop there is usually not that much cover because you need to be able to move tanks and big creatures over the field. Sitting in a ruin isn't safe: artillery or some magic powers can still hit you and wipe out the squad (including Space Marines), so sometimes it is better to charge and get close (I guess the armor is the cover). Foot slogging is still the worst approach, tanks or drop pods are safer of course. In 30k there are shield units, called breacher squads, they are really hard to shoot but many good units from 30k don't exist in 40k. The animators maybe learned close combat from the movie Blade, where the stuntmen wait for Wesley Snipes to turn and fight them :-) The Necrons also started not that original; they started as Chaos Androids and where copied from the Terminator movie before they put an Egyptian theme on them and fluffed them out.
I love in all your videos you are applying actual military logic. The problem is, in 40k, the rule of cool rules. Logic goes out the window to flex how badass you are on the enemy.
If you get into the tabletop choose which army you think is coolest. If you want availability choose space marines they’re easy to paint constantly being updated.
Fun fact: Sisters technically despise space marines due to them being engineered, but work with them for the sake of them protecting the Imperium.
depends on the sister. im pretty sure Tarianna Palos, the Our Martyred Lady Superia and female narrator (also known for her part time job as Space Elf Murder Jesus Yvrainne) is all about saving the people of the Imperium
they're fond of guardsman however, just regular human fighting for the emperor!
They also dislike space marines because THEY betrayed the emperor during the horus heresy. They REVERE the custodes because the custodes never had a single traitor amongst them.
@@nullakjg767 Same logic as the dwarves from Fantasy lol. Humans are weak, because they fall to Chaos. What are you saying abut Chaos Dwarves? Silly you, such thing does not exist!
I blame the grey knight, And there blood orgy ritual.
The thing about the space marines not using cover could be explained by the fact that this (their charge) is happening very quickly. It has been stated that your average space marine can move about 23 meters per second, accelerating almost instantly. Imagine being a necron and seeing a space marine standing 20 meters away on some street then in less than a second you have a chain sword through your chest. If you also consider the fact that the necron weapons are far better at long range but the space marines has the edge in mele, running in instead of taking cover could make sense.
Besides the scarabs could probably not give fewer fucks about cover so there is a good chance the space marines would just get swarmed if they tried.
Then again, we all know it is mostly to make them look cool.
Also helps explain the melee scenes. What we are seeing is how a space marine sees it, but in actually it's a bluur of sparks, bullets, and fresh corpses.
I’m just gonna be honest, a space marines going twenty meters per SECOND is kind of retarded. Sure it sounds cool for lore or whatever, but can you actually imagine what that’d look like? It’d be like watching someone using speedhacks in a game, I just can’t imaging them going that fast and not looking silly.
@@paralyzedtortoise8446 That's pretty much most of the universe honestly, retarded things that didn't have a lot of thought put into them but it sounds cool so hey why not, like "depleted deuterium" lmao.
@@paralyzedtortoise8446 kinda the point. In a universe with ever evolving fungal orcs that will win almost any war of attrition, the absolute fuckery that is Chaos, and Tyranids humanity needed some absolutely brokenly OP defenders.
Plus in 40k humanity has undergone situational eugenics with people being taller, stronger, and more physically capable due to how harsh damn near every world is.
@@paralyzedtortoise8446 For a human it might be fast, almost twice as fast as Usain Bolt, but it's actually not that amassing, they're still slower than a cheetah. Given that they're 8-9 foot tall they'd have huge strides it wouldn't even look that silly. So it comes down to do they have the strength to propel their bulk? With genetic engineering, yeh they do.
"You slicing that person was unnecessary."
First, that's not a person. It's a Necron.
Second, it's a *NECRON.* They don't exactly stay dead with a fatal wound. The more you render them broken the longer you can be sure it won't get back up.
The reactor (he's not a content creator) doesn't give two shits about even just a simple Google search. He's the epitome of lazy content
@@AceTaxiaGaming Two things.
1. If we're going off Fair Use criteria, then CVR (unlike most reactors) is definitely a "content creator" because his works are *transformative*, i.e. they add new meaning (in this case, CVR's experience with US tactical doctrine) to the original IP.
2. The entire point of a reaction is to go in either blind or semi-blind. Blaming a reaction channel for not researching their subject material is like blaming a review channel for pointing out their subject's shortcomings.
This hypocrite (he's not a "critic", since that term implies legitimacy and professionalism) doesn't do his own research, then parrots the "reaction videos are lazy and bad" meme to score easy internet points instead of asking "Hey, why are reaction videos usually bad?" He's the epitome of lazy, ill-informed comments.
Necrons are annoying lmao
"A Microwave gun of some kind"
In 40k that is called a "Melta-Gun".
They do cook marines quite well.
Or volkite weapons too (provided of course that you aim for exposed areas or weak spots). I believe there was an artwork for siege of tallarn, where a few iron warriors suffer the effects of volkite fire.
@@ivanivanovic5586 Volkite are great, but hasn't the tech for making more of them been lost by 40k? Or is it that they are just really tough to make?
@@reasonableastartes Tough to make and for a while, it was illegal to make. I think.
@@reasonableastartes Somewhat lost, but Cawl has reverse-engineered them into neo volkite
@@ivanivanovic5586 I believe that was Phosphex. Pretty sure the Tallarn Desert Raiders didn't have access to Volkite. But one of the Istvaan atrocities had an image of marines being hit by Volkite, I believe.
The Sisters of Battle do not have the benefit of redundant organs, reinforced skeletons, or enough raw muscle mass to unironically compete in gorilla MMA matches. Their armor is lighter and thinner than that of an Astartes, their weapons are scaled down, and their reflexes are slower than a Space Marine's, which is compounded by the fact that they don't have the Black Carapace to neurologically interface with their power armor. The Sisters HAVE to be be tactically mindful because they are still just baseline humans with good wargear, and even then the Sisters of Battle are also batshit insane religious fanatics that will often choose to fight virtually naked and charge _ahead_ of Space Marines.
Space Marines, in contrast, are faster, stronger, more heavily armed, their wounds close in seconds, they have redundant organs, the benefit of being able to go into cryptobiotic stasis to survive life-threatening injuries, and they often have the benefit of decades or centuries of martial training. Standing behind cover is advantageous and favored by Chapters like the Imperial Fists, but if an enemy can get through Astartes power armor in the first place, concrete and plasteel is only going to do so much. Better to sprint 100 yards over the course of a few seconds to rush the enemy and overpower them with weight of numbers, brawn, and martial prowess than to give them any advantage at range, which the Necrons generally have over most races since their weapons can disintegrate most materials like a sledgehammer through a sandcastle. Furthermore, standard Necron Warriors are generally slow, unresponsive, and tend to suck at melee due to being mindless automata outfitted with energy rifles that might not even have melee attachments, and higher classes of Necrons generally being few and far between. And it's also typical for SOME Marines to either hold back and lay down suppressing fire, or to fire as they advance. This is why Assault Marines generally carry a melee weapon and a bolt pistol or plasma pistol, even if they aren't outfitted with Jump Packs. Hell, the presence of force field technology in the 40k universe often makes melee a necessity, or have you forgotten those two psychic twins from the Astartes videos who could stop supersonic bolter rounds with their minds?
The Sisters have supernatural an superhuman powers due to their FAITH in the Emperor...
The halo isn’t just for ultramarines. Also Space marine armor is way thicker than the sisters armor. The fact marines charge so often is because you can outshoot a marine, especially if you’re a necron with a super gun, but you can’t out melee a space marine unless you’re a Ork or Tyranid or other marine. Them closing the distance is the scariest shit ever for anyone else. One good weapon for scarabs is flamers, and before you say they’re made out of metal, there’s literally a concoction of prometheum made just for melting down necrons cause otherwise you’d just have a flaming skeleton.
Right. The Sisters' power armor is good, but it isn't Astartes-level. No black carapace interface, etc.
Prometheum is the older bro of Napalm, basically. Then there's the absolute unit of a Chad Eldest Brother, that is Phosphex. Even VACUUM doesn't instantly put it out, but vacuum is the only way you have even a realistic chance of combatting Phosphex.
@@skebaba918 Then phosphex has a real world counterpart, called N-Stoff in german or Chlortrifluorite aka the strongest oxidizer in history, anything except Gold and copper just burns with a white flame, even glas and the ground burn
Basically Sister of battle faith is so great that they can pull literally miracles (one of their mechanics). Heck their most of Living Saints come from the Sisters of Battle and are among the mightiest beings in the Imperium, said to be blessed by a portion of the God-Emperor's power. They are often able to decimate foes with psychic blasts of holy fire and gifted with an Inviolable Aura which allows near-invulnerability in battle.
Many Living Saints can also conjure angelic wings, allowing them to bring righteous death from the air. Death itself is not permanent for a Living Saint as they can be resurrected should the Imperium ever need their help again
All Space Marines use the same gear sans very specialiced ones. The halo is usually a Rosarius that generaters a personal force field to defend its wielder.
About the sisters of battle vs space marine armor is like comparing an armored civilian vehicle with a tank. Space Marines move much faster than Sister of Battle due to the black caparace without even counting their superior base speed plus the Space Marine's armor has a range of auxiliary systems that improve the Space Marine's effectiveness, including auto-senses made up of thought-activated communications systems, augurs, audio filters, targeting reticules and numerous other features like life support systems and combat stims.Sister of Battle's armor lack most of those plus their armor offers less protection
The scene of the SM fighting 1 foe at a time is probably due to SM enhanced reaction speed slowed down so we can see what happens: The SM moves in quickly to eliminate the enemy one by one to avoid being overwhelmed before they can react. Space Marines are not only fast in reflexes but also on speed even if that varies depending on the author
For example on the Night Lords Book Talos a traitor Space Marine(but no "gifts" of the Chaos Gods) sprinted at 92 kmph for 10 minutes on uneven terrain before running out of breath
Living saints are demons of the Emperor.
Celestine is the emperor's greater daemon
@@xanosdarkpaw1 cease thy heresy! XD
Yeah that was almost certainly representing the use of a faith dice to pass a wound save.
Literally the holy wall of text
"He can't slice 6 people at once."
Space Marine: "Hold my beer, brother."
I figured it was the Captain being engaged by multiple opponents in melee but his skills were good enough so he only had to fight them one at a time
In the 40k rpgs there is a talent called Whirlwind of Death. Enemies that surround a marine with that talent are gonna have a bad time.
The Iron Halo is across all chapters and usually denotes a Captain rank
Also it's a protective energy shield-bubble generator.
@@DoctorM42 isnt it a weak-ish void shield generator?
The iron halo is also a personal shield projector.
@@fabricatorgeneralunit8726 no, it's more of a less unreliable refractor shield projector. Void shield provides you with 100% reliable shield but it could be overwhelmed and then it turns out. iron Halo gives you a bubble that have 50/50 chance of bouncing bullets off but it does not turn off after deflecting a lascannon shot like the void shield does.
@@DoctorM42 thanks
The Necrons are at least partially based off Terminators, since they’re essentially killer robots. They even had an ability in the tabletop called “I’ll be back” in the past. Now they’re no longer emotionless killdroids, but their leaders are loads upon loads enjoyable. Look up Trayzn the Infinite, one of, If not the most famous Necron Lords, and probably the biggest asshole in the galaxy and I love him to bits.
They're mostly based off Tomb Kings. Lore, Mechanics, aesthetics, tactics, all are too similar to ignore.
Goood ole Trazyn.. we all love the little bastard! Somehow tho i imagine him and Magnus having quite interresting conversations.
@@timbackman5915 I just see Magnus fanboying around the collection, running from 1 exhibit to another, with Trazin constantly saying something along the lines of "Get in the stasis chamber"
@@timbackman5915 I'm currently listening to The Infinite and The Divine, about 2/3 done with the book. I've never been into Necron lore all that much despite liking their models. But after this? Damn I love these spiteful, scheming bastards :D
The iron halo is energy shield generator.. When Saint Celestine blessed Roboute Gulliman with it, he's confused why everyone thinking its an holy relic when it's just energy shield generator.. 😂😂imo when fighting necron u need to close ur distance ASAP & goes melee ur not gonna match them in fire power & they immortal, the only way to kill them is to push them as fast as ur can & nuked their tomb complex that burried underground
incorrect. Iron Halos are one of many forms of Conversion Field Projector. It protects the bearer by scanning the environment, calculating, and inverting the side of the equation of E=MC^2 inbound projectiles that are determined to impact at. 20 MegaNewton Lasgun shot? its now 50 million atoms of hydrogen with no velocity. incoming Javalin 2 Meltamissile? It gets predetonated as some of its hull is converted into light.
How they work on unarmored Commissars is a question worthy of science.
Sororitas pattern Power Armor actually does have miniature Conversion Field projectors in it as well, its just that their Faith happens to optimize it so well that they can completely break the efficiency parity
Poor Gullinan, “crowned” by a demon, seeing how weird Cawl has become in 10,000 years, all while an Eldar woman he can barely stand is there. Then the internet turns that into memes.
@@chrisl4665 In the grim darkness of the far future , there are only memes.
@@F14thunderhawk Is this Golden Age of Technology stuff or what? I'd assume all civvies would have shit like that on them, just in case, so they can survive until the closest Men of Iron (basically Astartes w/ Imperial Guard numbers, because they are AI Combat Platforms basically) can arrive to eliminate any threat in the area.
@@chrisl4665 He's gonna need a lot of Zoloft for the massive hit of depression he's gonna get when he learns how the emperioum has been doing all this time.
Using cover is situational Taking cover against Necrons is pointless as the Gauss weapons (or worse tesla weapons) will destroy your cover or you'll get swarmed by scarabs. Not to mention if a higher tier unit that can resurrect warriors is nearby someof the 'dead' necrons will put themselves back together and returnto the fight. Necron warriors on the whole have too much of an advantage at range, they have comparatively fewer useful units for melee. You're much more likely to see them take cover against Orks, who are strong melee, but the average orc has abysmal aim. Though their gunz can hit like a freight train so you really don't want to get hit, especially if the More Dakka stratagem is used.
If it protects you from the first shot and gives you the chance to shoot back at least once it's not pointless.
@@-Seeker- well you can see in the animation that the beam decimate the sister's cover in seconds as the beam passes through. if they stayed behind cover they will be instantly hit, might as well run so they can dodge with their astartes' speed and reflexes
@@-Seeker- Here's the thing: The space marines *can't* stand back up after being shot. The Necrons *can*. If they try to engage in a straight shootout, the Necrons automatically win via attrition, as some of them *will* stand back up. However, most necron armies get routed/ fall back when their leaders have been dispatched (the big chungus with the lazer cannon and massive glaive at the end). Thus, the marines/sisters engage in melee to reach the enemy HQ. If they can put *HIM* down, it can end this.
TL;DR
Necrons can *potentially* stand back up after getting shot down. Thus, they will inevitably win a shootout via attrition.
@@evanchristianA I love how both of you assume that I meant for them to STAY in cover eternally. I said the first shot. After that you can charge all to your heart's content and the enemy missed their opening shot.
@@magnum32b Yes I know Necron lore, thank you. That doesn't negate what I said. Momentary cover once in a while to throw off the enemy is useful. I NEVER talked about long engagements from cover.
Fun fact. The bones on that captain's shield are said to be the remains of the previous captain preserved by the power field. Also, the assault intercessor sergeant totally does a no look behind the back chainsword kill.
The bones of a saint will do too!
I said it back when this trailer came out and I say it again. The skeleton being a former astartes makes no sense. Why? Because of their conversion. Hint: The Ossmodula leads to the fusing of the rib cage into a solid mass of bullet-proof, interlaced bone plates.
@@hermaeusmora424 GW isn't really known for following their own lore.
@@hermaeusmora424 I heard they changed to overlapping bone plates? Which makes more sense but still doesn't change your Point
In terms of tabletop, Space Marines are the ideal starter army partially because of the amount of chapters and rules they have you can EASILY tailor your Space Marines to whatever sort of playstyle and tactics you want to use. If you like; Bricky has actually done a video on his channel giving tips for tabletop on what is the best army to start with.
We are at 3rd Millenium
0001 = 1st Millenium
1001 = 2sd Millenium
2001 = 3rd Millenium
So just 39 more to go then
We are in the 13th Millenium of the Human Era. We should stop counting BC/AD.
@@tigeriussvarne177 yeah, but warhammer 40k and the world uses BC/AD like you or not
@@Gradashy You are right, it is AD.
0001=year 1, 1001=001 M1, 2001=001 M2 in warhammer 40k terms they say year first then the millennium. The 13th black crusade was launched year 999 millennium 41 so 999 M41 we are in the age of terra year 021 M2, 2021. If i am wrong then correct me. Year 021 millennium 2
Bolters are more like automatic rpgs. The rounds explode.
I believe the closest thing to a bolter we have atm, is either aa12 with frag12 rounds, or if you want bigger round, mark19 full auto grenade lanucher.
@@ivanivanovic5586 that’s actually about perfect size wise. Regular bolsters are about 20mm, and heavy bolters are about 30mm. So basically those weapons but with fancy future explosives.
@@chrisl4665 Yes indeed. Autocannons are 30-37mm, if I'm not wrong, and heavy bolter 25mm (if .75cal bolt is measured in inch).
The takeaway I get is: bigger than a 12ga round, but smaller than a 30mm cannon round… 0.75” is roughly the diameter of a slug round… but the bolts carry *significantly* more mass/explosive/whatever…
So, really no takeaway, yay!
@@paulpolito2001 I’ve spent way more of my life than I’ve should thinking about how these ridiculous weapons work lol. Chain swords are more like table saws than chain saws
When it comes to GW 99% of all advertisement involving Space Marines involves the Ultramarine chapter.
Hey Paul, the space marines’ complete refusal to use basic preservation tactics has actually sparked a joke faction in the community: The reasonable marines. A heretical(but still loyal) chapter that astoundingly values conventional military tactics, rather than running head first into any engagement.
And they even DARE to offer the enemies of man the chance to...to.. SURRENDER (except chaos for obvious reasons...and probably orks? Anything that will obviously never surrender
But they will charge (benefits of melee can't be overlooked), so they just more shooty.
Iron halos are usually used to denote captains, they also serve a purpose as the generator of a personal shield bubble.
The color scheme sugges ultramarines. The red helmet is used to denote a sergeant in the ultramarines.
They are indeed Primaris Ultramarines.
The Captain was also the only here with a shield (no Bladeguard present) so a shieldwall is not an option.
@@gargoylesplinth867 The Imperial Fist are in dissagre
@@sfierrocastillo5880 No disagreement at all. I was merely referring to this particular video. :)
This dude (the boxer who took a few too many blows to the head) doesn't do research, half a Google search would tell him this basic shit. Not like he saw the Ultramarines in bricky's fucking video
In terms of what army to start, the single best piece of advice i can give, is to pick the faction you find coolest.
As far as how to start them, most factions have a "start collecting" kit, and/or a "Combat Patrol" kit.
Both are good value compared to buying your kits individually, but Combat Patrol boxes will give you a roster that can be fielded for play right away in the smallest typical game mode: combat patrol (500 points)
Also i would recommend getting battlescribe on your pc (a program that helps you write and organize your army lists) and look at some youtube guides for how to use it and put together lists generally.
Also you will need the core rule book, and the codex for your army.
Core rules come packed in with the starter editions if you are interested in running either space marines or necrons (they come in the starter box that people have been suggesting to you).
I not much of a lore expert but, the iron halo that the shield captain wears is a personal energy shield that is awarded as a metal of honor. The reason I am sure of this is the the Lamenters were awarded one from the Ultra Marines for liberating a planet from the orks, they declined because in the fight to liberate the plant they murdered the Human slave camps to halt the orks production. The declining of the Iron halo caused the Ultra Marines to distrust and dislike the Lamenters
Metal of honor, nice one :P
The reason in this case for the seemingly unjustified charge actually reflects the mechanics of the game. Necron weapons are more ranged focused and eat through armor, meaning that unless a necron army has been specialized for melee the best way to minimize losses will be to close to melee with them as fast as possible.
If you look at the left shoulder of the Space Marine with the red helmet, you’ll find the Ultramarine sigil. 5:15
Notice how when the sisters of battle came out full force they made sure to get behind a line of space marines. lol Even out in the open they knew to use cover, in that case the hulking masses of the space marines.
I mean, let the mutants die first. Solid tactic.
Yes, in tabletop Sisters of Battle have a chance to mitigate a wound if they roll high enough on the “miracle safe” check.
Cool! I thought it looked familiar!
The halo is called an Iron Halo. Iron Halos are typically given to Captains. It gives off an energy field that allows for resisting wounds and stopping damage. Those were Ultramarines in the battle. The cheapest 40k army to start is the Custodes as it requires the fewest number of models to make an army. Space marines are probably the next cheapest and a Combat Patrol box is supposed to get you a 25 power lever or 500 point game with them +/- depending on the box. Indomitus was a great box set at the time but was limited release and had 2 factions in it just like the starter sets.
Idomintus was sold out? Bummer
2:10 - As commissar Cain puts it in the book Duty Calls: "That was all we needed, a bunch of psalm-singing fanatics in power armour getting in the way of a properly co-ordinated military response. I hadn’t had much personal contact with the Ecclesiarchy’s orders militant in the past, but on the few occasions I had done, I’d found their undeniable martial prowess so closely allied with the worst kind of Emperor-bothering tunnel vision that deploying them effectively in anything resembling a coherent battle plan was all but impossible. The best you could hope for was to point them in the vague direction of something important to the enemy, shout ‘heretic!’ and leave them to it.
If you were lucky they’d put a useful dent in the opposing forces, and even if they didn’t, at least you’d got them out of the way before they started preaching at you."
In the FFG RPG "Black Crusade" those Necron scarab swarms were the bane of Space Marines, because for balance reasons Space Marines couldn't dodge hordes and the scarabs, though weak packed a lot of fire power up close.
Gripes about one at a time melee fights? Welcome to just about every action movie game or t.v. show ever.
As for Necron warriors, don’t expect a sense of self preservation. That’s the mental capacity of Immortals or above. Warriors are our chattle, our disposable garbage. Basically zombies with guns.
Lastly, sitting in cover likely is unwise with the scarab swarms. Running past them seemed to incur less casualties. Better to fight the devastating ranged attackers in melee where they are significantly weaker while not blinded by a cloud of those vicious little mecha-bugs.
The necron would very much like you to sit in cover and get eaten by their bugs
@@jacthing1 Or have lots of cover around you when Wraiths move in. Hope you secured the floor beneath you
Have you ever seen the Raid ?
The halos usually is reserved for higher ranking space marine and is also a shield generator. As for scarab vs space marine, a squad of space marine would most likely have someone (or an entire other squad) with a different weapon layout like a flamer to deal with swarm enemy type. The bolter/chainsword is just the most popular so in the trailer it goes XD.
"Cover is a more suitable choice rather than suicidal charges towards the enemy"
40k: "cover?"
The Sisters aren't under any obligation to link up and fight with Guardsmen, but they often do. They'll show up and start performing miracles like healing the wounded, often asking the Guardsmen around them to pray with the sisters, or sing battle hymns. The point is the Sisters will incorporate the Guardsmen into activating the miracle to bolster their faith, which in turn makes the Guardsmen fight fanatically. After all, the Emperor's most faithful showed up and personally asked the Emperor to bless them.
That...or they shoot them all for being HERETICS due to how the regiment worship's the emperor... really depends on the sisters and why the best way to use them is still the method Ciaphas Cain uses. Point at the enemy, scream heretic as loud as you can and stay out of the way of the crazy nuns with guns as they charge the enemy
Fun fact: the necrons were originally just a terminator reference. Their reanimation protocol was originally called “will be back”
"Space Marines...their unwillingness to use cover fascinates me..."
The question is: Why would a genetically engineered Super Soldier with 19 extra Organs, to make him (at least in the Lore Books) nearly unkillable, covered with Mark VIII Power Armor, which turns him into a walking Tank, that only heavy Weaponry starts to scratch it (in the Lore), would need extra cover?
He IS the Cover.
More Cover would be a Space Marine in Terminator Armor, which is basically a walking personal Bunker. And even more cover than that, would be a Dreadnought.
The Shield the Marine is useing is a Storm Shield, that in addition to beining a slab of metal is also a very powerfull energy shield generator. Also figthing Necrons in Melee is denying them their guns. The best Gun in the Galaxy won't help you if someone is trying to bash your head in with a rock.
Your comments about Necrons and cover fire are dead on. The base Necron warriors are barely conscious automatons with no real sense of self preservation. (A side effect of getting the uh...budget download during the transference process.) As a result, they'll completely ignore incoming fire unless told to take cover by commander, and most Necron commanders are not known for valuing the lives of their individual subjects. Especially now that said subjects are basically ghosts of their former selves.
Even more so since pretty much all basic Necron units can (Relatively) casually be resurrected so long as a lord is nearby, with just the right kind of ball in his hand.
Hi there ! I saw that loremasters already told yo uabout some of your questions in the comments :) I'll add some little things here and there about my experience on the tabletop :)
First, in the lore as well as on the tabletop game, Necrons are better than marines in term of firepower and ranged fight, so a firefight will always eventually turn in favor of the Necrons. It is also the case with Tau and Eldars. So when fighting these factions, staying stuck behind a cover that is not necessarily more protective than your armor will only grant you a few seconds before the covers themselves are obliterated and disintegrated on a molecular level. On the other hand, marines are far superior at close range, against most units of these three factions, so their objecive will be to rush in the no man's land as quick as possible because even if they take a lot of casualties, the survivors will do the job.
One thing that is always underrepresented in the videos is the speed of a space marine : in full armor, they are quicker than human world class athletes but videos always make them appear heavy and kinda clumsy because it visually makes them appear powerfull and inexorable.
I had several experiences of that on the tabletop : unloading terminators from transports and charging with all I got, yes, I took a lot of models off the board, but when I engaged in melee, my god, that was brutal and quick ! :)
Also, you are definitely right : swarms of scarabs are the doom of elite armies like space marines. To counter them : flamers, frag ammo, plasma, psychic powers and melee, because yes, a space marine can behead six oponents at a time, and besides he can kill with every part of his body, so basically he can crush a lot of scarabs with his feet and fists. Though in the end the scarabs could overwhelm them, yes, definitely.
Sisters don't have SM level power armor, but I see that someone already gave into much detail on the subject ;)
And for the shield guys, they are usually veterans and not numerous enough to cover all their comrades. You also fight with what you have at hand : in another context, it would be possible to have lots of shield wielders on the field, but the Ultramarines are not Imperial fists (they, on the other hand, focus on shields and defensive tactics)
It's not an Omega, it's an Ultima ;) (inverted Omega, obviously)
Cover for a space marine? "My face is my shield!"
If you're new to painting, space marines are probably the easiest to start off, but other than that just go with what ever you thing looks the coolest
That seems to be the rule
The halo around their head is actually a piece of kit called the iron halo. The iron halo actually projects an energy field to block or reduce incoming fire. Basically a force field. It is often only gifted to senior space marines so it can also be seen as a sign of rank. Long story short, the halo is a badge of seniority and a piece of kit, it is not unique to the ultramarine and those are ultramarine. You were right about the primaris.
It's also funny you mention microwave guns. There used to be a class of weaponry called volkite which were basically heat rays. They fell out of favor during the horus heresy because they had trouble with penetrating space marine armor as well as how complex they were, so their production was roughly discontinued.
Seems like a lot of promising tech got 'discontinued' during the HH
@@CombatVeteranReacts Oh for sure.
The Indominuts box is great because it'll start you off with two small forces; both space marines and Necrons. To get your feet wet though and to start out with a few paints they sell little starter boxes that are 1-3 models with a few pots of paint. I'd honestly start there and if you get hooked you know where to go next already
"It's crazy and over-the-top... but where's the fun in that?"
Uhh, there. Right there, in the "crazy and over-the-top" part, that's where the fun is.
Ohhhh! That is exactly where the fun is. But I am still going to pointlessly analyze questions like "can the bug swarm write a poem?" or "Do Necron dreams not make any sense like human dreams??"
I like that even though you're nitpicking-ly criticizing every video (which is what the videos are about), it seems like you are genuinely interested in the lore. I've been watching your videos since you first were exposed to warhammer and it's crazy to see how deep you've dived into the specifics of it. Anyway, you're enthusiasm in just learning about a fictitious setting to sell miniatures is what keeps me watching.
I acknowledge the I over analyze the lore, but that is part of the fun for me. Thanks a lot for being a fan!
1) A space marine would not have any problem hitting a scarab mid air, space marine armour litteraly auto aims and does calculations if the target is not too far away. And astartes can actually aim better than their computer (?) if the target is further away. Remember that bolted round are rocket propelled so they won’t slow down and have almost no drop. Ammunition would more likely be the problem.
2) Also it makes perfect sense to charge if you are a space marine. You compare the combat with modern day warfare but there is a crucial difference; the weapons today far outshines the individual protection, and bullets can be delivered in such quantity that any charge is negated. Have been like that since atleast WWI.
Combat with a space marine should be compared more to medieval times. Most hand weapons (even most necron ones) can not go through space marine armour faster than the space marines can get to the person wielding the weapon. Think armoured knight charging a bowman. Not modern day soldier charging a machine gun... also some of the marines have op storm shields... And space marines are much more efficient in qcq than at range vs a human sized combatants. They are so fast and so strong that anything moral (unfortunately not the necrons) are petrified by a charge for the cheer impossibility of something so strong and heavy to be able to move that fast. It’s called trans-human-dread.
Charges was one of the most efficient strategies until 1800 hundreds or so. For example the Swedish kings used a strategy named gå-på during the pike and gunline warfare. The whole point was to charge a gunline and close the distansen to rout a much larger army. It work, Sweden with its relatively small army beat the Russian army partly thanks to this strategy during the early 18th century.
"He can't slice six people at once".
*Gabriel Seth of the Flesh Tearers disputes this.*
1. Faith in the emperor is cover.
2. They're Ultramarines; not Imperial Fists. Imperial Fists would be more mind tuned to use shields as Ultramarines are numbers, speed and maneuverability over static positions though it does seem they did try to set up a gun line to cover the assault element but alas, lack of cover and scarabs ruined that.
Good point, maybe charging is the best response to scarabs
Its not as if they are waiting for him, its that they are reaching him from different directions at differnt distances
Ah ok.
The Halo is a shield generator usually given to a captain or above.
It's called un-creatively the Iron Halo.
Also Necrons don't die. They dematerialize and are reconstructed in either a ship orbiting the planet or a tomb complex under the planet. Then their telephoned back into battle. Necron tactics are basically built around the fact that they functionally immortal.
The sisters do have a mechanic to cheat your way out of a wound.
They get miracle dice, which are rolled when they are created, and then sit around with that value until used, and later they can use those dice in an "act of faith" to use the value of a miracle dice and discard it, instead of rolling to determine the outcome of some rolls, which does include saving throws.
Point of fact Primaris Space Marines are the upgraded space marines, with many Chapters either bolstered by the newly engineered forces (all of whom were recruited just after the end of the Heresy) or entirely new chapters formed out of Primaris. But the regular Space Marines at this time can undergo the upgrade process (known as crossing the Rubicon - because you can't go back) which is a very painful and excruciating process, and the first to do so was an Ultramarine Chapter Master Marneus Calgar.
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I am not amused.
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Space marine armour can shug off quite a bit more than sororitas armour. A modern grenade launcher might knock an astartes slightly off balance but the amour its self would be left relatively unscathed
Intersting. I really thought soroitas used smaller versions of marine power armor
@@CombatVeteranReacts space marines are much larger and with thr advantage of having the black carapase allowing them to connect their nervesystem to their armour, despite being quite heavy, the armour actually further enhances a space marines strength and speed while a sororitas armour will enhance their strength it cant read their movements to the same degree. Sororitas also use a bolter pattern that is scaled down for human use
Regarding the whole suicide scarab thing- that's actually something they can do in game - if you run lots of scarab swarms it can be a nasty surprise for the enemy when one of them just dumps a pile of mortal wounds on a unit.
4:25 Kind of. The save thing is a universal mechanic that most models get armor saves and some get an “Invuln” save on top of that. The Sisters’ unique thing is that they have a special resource that lets them rig their rolls (you get “miracle dice” when certain things happen that you immediately roll and you spend them by using one of them for a dice roll instead of leaving it to chance). You can use this to get around the randomness to an extent and guarantee a shot hits, or to ensure you tank something, or have an especially good melee attack, etc. It’s very powerful but you don’t get a ton of these dice so you have to spend them carefully
Fun fact: you can suicide run explosive scarabs into marines in game, just like you were talking about.
Tactically smart!
@@CombatVeteranReacts They're also a renewable combat resource, being able to build more swarms of them mid-combat with use of Canotek Spyders. They're a great role filler in the army.
Think with the running thing it’s more that you don’t want to end up in a gunfight with necrons, they have far superior firepower at range. Space marines have a huge advantage in melee combat so they probably just aren’t willing to fight at ranged against superior firepower.
Yeah, they want to end the fight as quickly as possible because the longer the fight goes on the more shots they're going to take from Necron guns which they can only handle so many of.
I love the horror on the guardswoman's face when her friend gets atomized. It's the little details like that that make the characters feel human, and makes you root for them.
If I remember correctly, the pointed Halo is some sort of shorttime shipgrade powershield device, creating for a short amount of time a practicly unpentratable bubble.
In my compleatly nonhumble oppinion, the Necrons are the most powerfull faction in the entire W40k universe, If they would awaken all at once, nothing could stopp there endless hords of undying armies~ not even Chaos it self.
I vagely remember that Chaos lost to the Necrons and was forced to abandon there realworld holdings once long ago. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Stuff to note (most people have already pointed these out so I'm just adding to the emphasis)
- Yes, sisters of battle perform acts of faith to do pretty supernatural stuff.
- Those are ultramarines. Primaris ultramarines specifically. If you keep looking at primaris next to regular (or firstborn as they are called) marines, you start to see the differences.
- The guy with the shield is a captain. The iron halo is not just an indicator of rank, it's also pretty useful wargear that generates a power field around him. Iron halos are not exclusive to the ultramarines, they exist within pretty much all chapters, and their appearance will vary depending on the chapter (for example, blood angel iron halos are usually chalice-shaped or halo-shaped with blood drop ornaments).
- Most space marines are so zealous that they will almost always charge the enemy head-on despite how tactically unsound it may be. Their zealotry leads them to believe they are in themselves the only sufficient cover. And the fact that in most instances this is indeed the case, only adds to the fire.
As far a boxes go here are my recomendations:
The Indomitus boxes are hard to get hold of, avoid that pathway.
For starting out there are three box types that are good for the level of beginner:
all three contain an army of Space Marines and Necrons.
Recruit - 20 Push to fit Miniatures plus gaming mat, rulers, dice, Transfers, Datasheets and the recruit starter Guide
Elite - 27 Push to Fit Miniatures, Gaming Mat, Rulers, dice, Transfers, Datasheets and Elite Starter Guide
Command - 27 Push to Fit Miniatures, 30" by 22.4" gaming board, Push fit plastic terrain, The Warhammer 40,000: Command Manual, Range rulers and dice, Datasheets, A Space Marines Transfer Sheet with over 600 transfers, Warhammer 40,000: The Rules softback book. (The Core book would be needed to be bought seperatly)
Recently Games Workshop release new starter army boxes to replace their "Get Started" boxes, Known as "Combat Patrol" and include the following forces:
Dark Angels - 10 Miniatures
Adeptus Mechanicus - 15 Miniatures
Deathwatch - 15 Miniatures
Death Guard - 39 Miniatures
Necrons - 15 Miniatures
Space Wolves - 17 Miniatures
Blood Angels - 15 Miniatures
Space Marines - 18 Miniatures
Drukhari - 18 Miniatures
Each box contains Soldier Units and at least one Vehicle Unit
Then there are the Paints and the other tools, but that can be covered another time.
I am disappointed in the lack of heavy flamers knowing they were going against the Necron. Heavy flamers are supremely effective at dealing with a mass of scarab. If a marine has them on them, a little once-over with the flamer does well at removing them.
They need to listen to russian badger
I haven't seen a video in which the author considers necrons, so some things could have already been heard...
1) The starting point of the imperial calendar is not the Birth of Christ, but the first human flight into space, i.e. 1961. Therefore, our year 2021 according to the imperial calendar will be M1.060
2) Not only the Sisters of Battle are capable of Acts of Faith. Anyone who sincerely and fervently believes in the Emperor is capable of this. And Acts of Faith are not limited to healing. After all, these are divine miracles.
3) The Warhammer 40,000 universe, despite the entourage , is a fantasy. And, as in many other fantasy universes, there are undead in Warhammer. In 40k, the undead are represented by the necron race. The simplest undead troops are skeletons and zombies. From the first appearance, from the second vitality and slowness, to put everything in metal - that's the basic necron warrior for you. Zombies are usually represented as stupid and slow - so no hiding places. Only a blunt attack in the forehead.
4) The Sisters of Battle, like other Adeptus Sorroritas, have a negative attitude towards Space Marines. In most Orders, the Emperor is revered not as a God, but as ... the founder. They admit that He created primarchs and legions. But not as a God. Because of this, in the eyes of the Sisterhood, Space Marines are heretics. Yes, and the genetic modifications of the paratroopers from the point of view of the sisters are mutations and heresy (turning a blind eye to the fact that these modifications come from the Emperor). But they are too useful for the Imperium to openly try to destroy them. Which wouldn't stop some fanatical sister from giving the Astartes a little shit. And such battles, when Astartes are shoulder to shoulder fighting with Sorroritas , are not the most common thing that can be found on the battlefield.
5) That shield fighter is just an animated old miniature Astartes. The claims are not to the animators, but to those who came up with such miniatures.
6) The original plot moves of the necrons are the legacy of later editions. Initially, the cyberzombi had only a hatred of life and the inspiring will of K'tan
P.S.: An online translator was used to write this post. Therefore, I ask you not to pay attention to strange constructions of phrases, etc.
That is helpful info! Thank you!
If you like necrons then I'd advise the following.
Recruit Edition starter set, Paint + Tools set, undercoat, Tamiya Ultra thin plastic cement. For about $115 you would get undercoat, 12 paints, 1 textured base paint, starter paint brush, mould line scraper, clippers, plastic glue, 20 minis, basic rules, and a VERY simple game mat and building.
The space marines may not appeal to you but the recruit edition is only $5 more than a box of necron warriors on their own and you get 10 necron warriors, 3 scarab swarms, necron royal warden, marine lieutenant, and 5 man marine assault squad. It will let you try your hand at painting two very different factions to a basic battle ready standard that can be greatly improved upon with only a few more colours, if you enjoy painting.
If you decide to delve deeper then you have something to build from. If you hate it or another faction takes your fancy you haven't spent much on painting practice minis.
This sounds great! Any chance you could DM me the links in my insta?
@@CombatVeteranReacts Done ;)
A little strange when you talk about fire and movement and use of cover as if it's the be all and end all of tactics in a universe with tyranids, orks, necrons and more.
First off, Space Marines don't always use cover for a good reason. Their armour is better than whatever cover they might hide behind. Secondly, they're shock weapons. They have to be moving forward. If you reduce Space Marines to just a basic rifle team then what's the point? You might as well just field more guardsmen. A regiment of guard will outshoot a space marine company any day of the week in sheer firepower.
Moving on, Space Marines do use fire and movement. They also have devastator squads with heavy weapons for this reason, to provide suppressive fire and create kill zones as well as tackle bigger threats like tanks, large and powerful enemies like the Carnifex or just purge entire areas with heavy flamers and melta weapons.
Space Marines have three components.
Assault squads are recon, close combat and are basically your fast moving support. They can recon forward, they can hang back and jump in when you need to fill a gap or they can quickly rush and take over a position or break an enemy.
Devastators provide the heavy weaponry and the cover fire for the rest of the larger unit.
Tactical squads are the most experienced and they're generalists. They are the ones who will be seizing and holding ground and exploiting opportunities. The devastators provide cover so the tactical squads can move up. The assault squads recon for the other two to set up in good positions or to take the best advantage of the situation. The assault squads rush a position and then hold it just long enough for tactical squads to then reinforce them, followed by devastators.
When you're a guardsman fighting a tyranid or ork wave, what is the point in fire and movement? You have to get as many rounds downrange as possible. You cover is going to be pointlessly trapping you once a gaunt or an ork with an axe just close the distance and at that point, your unit is just dead. Sometimes it's just better to form up a big old firing line outside of cover and just mow down that wave of tyranid gaunts with volley after volley of lasgun fire, backed by your other heavy weapons like bolters, flamers, artillery, mortars, etc.
If you're fighting necrons, they will sit in cover at range just firing at you. The only way to beat necrons is to just quickly overwhelm them and break up their cohesion. The longer it drags out, the worse it is for the guardsmen or space marines who have to deal with them.
Hell, for Space Marines, they drop in via drop pod, from orbit, and the whole point is speed and aggression to break the enemy before he can figure out how to deal with them. Sitting in cover and moving up is ridiculously suicidal when you can just run up, tank the hits with your power armour and overrun the position.
Especially when there are ammo types that render cover useless
I'd say the effectiveness of Astartes was from conventional tactics being mostly thrown out the window. In most cases, their power armor and superior physiology WERE the cover. Any enemy force relying on conventional suppressive tactics to keep them buttoned up and hunkered down would shatter in the face of of an enemy just plowing right through it, like if tanks were deployed in the Battle of Hastings.
A few points from the video:
Start Collecting boxes are a good place to start, most factions have one. Otherwise just start with a basic troop box and get used to painting with them.
Scarabs are absolutely great for bogging down and killing Space Marines, in a recent game my opponent's Scarab unit did a number to a squad of Chaos Marines.
Space Marines tend to be superior combatants in melee combat, so they'll often break cover to engage at close range. In game and in universe they're more likely to lose protracted firefights against opponents such as Necron Warriors or the Tau Fire Caste even when taking advantage of cover, so they'll accept the casualties of the charge for the advantage they hold in melee.
5:55 Space Marines ignoring cover was a mechanical oddity and dates back to older editions of 40k. In the 5th edition rules for example, a unit of models could roll ONE saving throw for each wound suffered by the unit (first roll to hit, then to wound). The save could be from armour, cover or some device that granted an invunerable i.e. undeniable save. The source of your choice i.e. the highest dictated your save.
From the Warhammer 40,000 5th edition core rulebook page 21
COVER CHART
Cover type - Save
a) Razor wire, Wire mesh - 6+
b) High Grass, Crops, Bushes, Hedges, Fences - 5+
c) Units (friends and enemies), Trenches, Gunpits, Tank traps, Emplacements, Sandbags, Barricades, Logs, Pipes, Crates, Barrels, Hill crests, Woods, Jungles, Wreckage, Craters, Rubble, Rocks, Ruins, Walls, Buildings, Wrecked Vehicles - 4+
d) Fortifications - 3+
Space Marines had an armour save of 3+ or success on three or higher on a d6 - six-sided die. Thus, they NEVER had a reason to stay in cover since they were "walking cover" and could shield weaker units by blocking line of sight. Since the fiction sells the models, GW has kept Marines running at their foe ignoring tactically more viable options - less so on 9th edition.
Edit: Microwave weapons are a great idea. If the ceramite armour had no reflective coating, the microwaves could cause a thermal run off and not cook, but explode from within. Cooking or really just heating would be horribly painful, but not instantly deadly. Weaponization would be rather difficult due to loss of energy to ambient water vapour and other compounds especially at long ranges. In our world that could be done at in near contact (< 1 m), but the power source and power storage as always would make this impractical as a weapon. Plasmas, meltas and explosives would be far more reliable and safer in terms of potential collateral damage.
That Guardsman would've been a burden for this Sister, because the training and equipment of Sister is much better than those of regular Guardsman.
The Iron Halo is not unique for only the Ultramarines. They can be in any Chapter of Astartes. Though they're only reserved for the most senior members of the Chapter.
And the cover is actually kinda useless against the Necrons. Especially with the size of an Astartes. And considering that they're wielding weapons that can turn into atmos anything in it's way when shooting. Just not that fast.
And the simple Necrons don't think for themselves. They're too... I shall say "robed" of their ability to think. They're like the old Necrons - mindless automatons, who follow commands and can't mostly do anything except that.
And the Scarabs are not kinda combat ones...They're designed to build, repair and harvest things, but not to kill. It came only as a side effect, I think.
The Necron Warriors are too unthinking to think and cooperate. Without anyone of high-ranking necrons.
That thinking wouldn´t work on Necrons, the Space Marines are in a disadvantage in ranged combat, going into melee is their best chance for victory.
The Indomitus box is now out of production but there are other starter sets that offer figures for less than the individual squad sets. Any of the boxed army sets will offer a saving over buying units individually and if you aren't worried about the game then it doesn't matter how effective the selection is on the table. The introductory paint sets for both marines and necrons come with some figures but you are limited to Ultramarines.
Solution for scarabs: get the flamer brother.
The HEAVY flamer.
Necron infantry like warriors are usually commanded by some form of leader (lord, overlord) and have basically no personality since they're soulless. Thats why they won't use cover or do some advanced tactics.
The necron lords are somewhat connected to their army and they send some kind of impulses to let them fight
An Iron Halo is a personal shield generator that protect the Marine from incoming fire. As they are very rare, usually only senior members of the Chapter are granted it use.
The necrons are basically 40k’s version of zombies or liches, so they’re pretty sluggish but they’re extremely resilient so you can’t be too thorough to ensure they stay down
What you said about the Scarabs is actually a entirely valid strategy, they move fast, get in close, CAN hit hard if luck is in your favor (6's are either exploding 6s or auto-wounds, I forget.) and you have a stratagem that costs you a command point, but it allows you to explode one of your scarab models to cause d3 mortal wounds.
And if you have a Scarab Hive, you can regenerate that sacrificed scarab. And if you use a certain dynasty, each of those scarabs have op sec, meaning they can hold and contest objectives.
The iron halo is not only a mark of rank and skill but it's also a projector for some arcane half understood personal shield technology. So it serves both a ceremonial and a practical purpose
4:25 In game it's called "Miracle dice" You can get it from different ways but it's basicly this:
You roll 1 dice and take it to the side. whatever the result is you can use that number instead of the dice that you are currantly rolling. It can be very OP.
"Necrons are pretty original"
Me when I think of necrons: Egyptian space terminators that want to be the very best Pokémon trainer they can be XD
Iron Halo is also essentially an old force field too. Super rare.
The ultramarines, as an old chapter with lots of loot essentially, have more than other chapters.
Not quite true about the armors of sisters and space marines being the same.
True, they are both power armors, but space marine armor is a modern Abrams while the sister's armors is a Sherman. They're both tanks, but one is far more advanced.
It's always fun to see someone talking about realism of 21th weapons and strategies point of view in a fantastic futiristic universe.
Couple things: Space marines have really, REALLY good armor. Their armor is better, and they are genetically engineered compared to an adeptus sorritas.
Secondly, I can see why it is smart for a space marine to take cover, but space marines (specially in lore) can take heavy punishment and keep pushing forwards, so cover usually is over seen.
Thridly, Necrons tend to not do so well in melee combat, although they do have special units like Destroyers made for melee, the general army isn't that good in close combat. So charging the Necrons with space marines isn't the worst idea, since Necrons have better guns and has a good chance of beating the marines in a fire fight.
As far as getting into the tabletop, a few tips:
1) The best faction to start with is ALWAYS the one you like the most. Building and painting an army’s worth models is an endurance race and getting and keeping the motivation to keep going is the hardest part. So while there ARE armies that are easier or harder to paint, if you don’t like how the faction’s lore, aesthetics, or playstyle, don’t buy it just because it’s more “beginner-friendly” and ESPECIALLY not because it’s doing well in the competitive meta.
2) With all the vids you’ve been watching, you’re probably starting to get a good idea for which factions’ lore and aesthetics you like, but playstyle can be a little hard to gauge w/o actually, well, PLAYING. Luckily, there are a couple good ways to “try before you buy.” The Games-Workshop-approved ways are to go to a local game store (esp. a GW specific one) on a 40k game night and see if any of the folks there would be willing to let you play their army (or a small subset of their army) for a demo game OR to buy into the small-squad variant game 40k Kill Team, which are basically rules to let you play (still in 8th edition currently) satisfying games with much smaller forces. You can also test things out on a virtual tabletop like Tabletop Simulator, which’ll give you maximal freedom to test things out, and the only really good socially distanced option but since they can let people play without buying GW’s models GW doesn’t like it.
3) If you really don’t have a preference between multiple factions, the general rules of thumb for what makes a faction more newbie-friendly are: (A) fewer, more elite models, like space marines, custodes, & knights (B) lots of large flat surfaces without as many tiny details, like space marines & tau (C) Wide diversity of effective tactics that let you adapt to different opponents, like Space marines, admech, or guard (D) More recent & frequent updates to the model line so you don’t feel abandoned in the long-term...like space marines. You will note that Space marines are (quite deliberately) in literally ALL of those categories, but most have at least one or two ways in which they are “easier” than others.
4) Some factions can play on the same team, some can’t, so if you have multiple interests that can team up, there’s no real harm in getting some of each. The specifics have changed from edition to edition but last I checked in 8th edition, any Imperium faction can be allied (which is called an “Imperial Soup” army), any Chaos human (including chaos space marines, renegade knights, and traitor guard-same as imperial guard, just allied with Chaos and covered in more spiky bits) or demon factions can play together (“Chaos Soup”), any Eldar faction can play together (“Eldar Soup”), Tyranids can play with Genestealer Cults, and Tau can play alongside Farsight Enclaves Tau or “Gue’Vesa” (same as Imperial Guard, but allied to the tau instead of the Imperium and covered in more shiny bits)
5) Most factions have something called a “start collecting box” which generally gives you enough models to make a small core to start an army. Some are better deals than others and some include units that aren’t actually all that useful, so you’ll want to check whether the ones for the faction you picked is a good deal, but they are ALL cheaper than buying the models separately. And some factions have other special deal boxes like that, like the Indomitus box, so take a look for the factions that interest you.
While I can't really suggest an army, might I suggest that you start with Kill Team which is basically Warhammer on a smaller tactical scale where you control maybe a squad or two of troops. This naturally results in a lower barrier to entry as there are fewer models to acquire and collect not to mention you can easily take your Kill Team models and use them in the full army in the future.
If I might make a suggestion if you go this route....try a bit of a theme and make an Imperial Guard kill team with the units in the kill team being based off of you and your soldier buddies just translated into Warhammer. Would be fun at least and allow you to add personality to your soldiers.
Necrons scarabs got a cool rule on tabletop game :
For every 6 on the dices you roll to hit your enemy, this enemy suffer a caualities that cannot be saved.
It represent be overwhelm by thousand of this thing.
Even tanks fear them when there are in large number.
They were changed to auto wound on wound rolls of 5+, if I remember correctly.
@@khorneflakes4446 damnit
This thing over the head of the spacemarine is an iron halo. It is a sign of seniority and leadership amongst them. It is also a protectiondevice, because it has an integrated forcefieldgenerator. You can equip a spacemarinecaptain with it, for extrapoints.
You do make a good point at 11:00. Space Marine's big weakness is their lack of numbers. That's why armies that tend to be the most effective against them in melee are the ones that can swarm them like you said. Orks and Slaanesh Daemons come to mind.
On the "cover" issue, that Captain especially simply would not care. He has his armour, he has an energy shield projector on his backpack, he has a physical shield, and that physical shield ALSO has an energy shield projector! I think he can go without cover. 😛
You could say the Nercons react slower than Space Marines because their machines. They are always calculating and readjusting their aim to shoot a fast moving target. Getting in melee range is the best choice for Space Marines but the problem is not getting shot when your trying to get in melee range.
The best way to get into Warhammer. Is just go to your local GW store, check out the boxes they have there. Then ask them to help set you up with the paints and stuff you need. Staff out here in DFW were quite helpful.
I went with a Custodes army btw, cheap (relatively) and mostly just gold
The Halo is a "Iron Halo" its a piece of technology that has in it a refractor shield. think typical sci-fi shielding tech but less realiable.
They are usually issued to high important people, as having your officers not die easily is a good thing on the battlefield.
As for the Charging bit, that was actually a bit of tabletop flare here, look at the tiles of on the ground, this is a bit of a cinematic 40k tabletop game style
Also when fighting Neroncs, theres are basically 3 options you have fighting them.
1: Be as mobile as possible as the Necrons soldiers software/remnants of their minds isnt that fast and their targeting while accurate as hell isnt as swift to react to changes.
2: Go into close combat for similiar reason but there you have the advantage of their software trying to mitigate friendly fire
3: Just surrender and hope that the local overlord is one of the more reasonable ones that just try to restore their civilisations and not the crazy ones
i think this quote explains you alot about space marines and covering or camouflage: camouflage is the color of fear...i have no need to hide from my foes...i have no fear of death. my colors i wear openly, they proclaim louder than any words. i am proud to live, i am proud to die
Paul: The Necrons are really kind of original, aren't they?
**Arnold Schwarzenegger would like to know your location.**
“Our forces are few”
Guardsmen watching the video: fuck you-
They are the Necrons, they near unkillable and will probalby heal from getting its chest cut open given time, so probably resonable to remove its head. Ofc in older lore there were stories where they were hit by melta weapons and reduced to siver puddles, and a Necron Lord with a ressurection orb still get them to repair themselves.
These are definitely Primaris, but i am resonable sure they are Ultramarines. And yeah the Halo is common across legions sometimes with small variations in appearence. Mostly reserved for seniority or special people who has earned them in some way.
The space marine power armor is much stronger, tougher and thicker than the sisters of battle and the standard necron warrior is a drone, i will not take cover or duck at all. Ofc the point that cover is important for marines stands that much stronger since at least lorewise a shot from a necron Gauss weapon will kill a marines outride if he is hit.
I would say that due to training and psudo since the marine could probably hit the scarabs, but its true they can overwhelm them, so they are best fought with area weapon. And they'll happy eat through a marine or a tank
As for cooking a marine in his armor, large parts of it
Dark Imperium is a good starting box space marine primaris vs. deathguard both two factions has beautiful models in the box. Custodes are easy starting because every model is expensive pointwise. Kill team can also be a really good place to start, fewer models required and they can be individualized. Or just go with whatever faction you think is coolest
Keep up the good work.
The iron halo is indicative towards the seniority within the majority of chapters yes since its meant to be a shield generator device of a kind to protect commanding officers or veterans, its similar to the Crux Terminatus that Marines in Terminator armor would have or the Rosarius that would be awarded to Space Marine Chaplains.
Some lore about IRON HALOS :The Iron Halo emits a very strong Conversion Fieldaround its wearer, which makes his armour even harder to pierce with enemy ranged and melee weapons. In addition it also provides its user with immense resilience to even the most potent weapons such as Lascannonsand missiles of all varieties. The energy shield the Halo generates stands a good chance of deflecting many deadly projectiles that would slay even an unprotected Space Marine with ease.
Note: i even heard of iron halos that act more as deflector shield bending projectile vector in such a way to not hit the space marine... the effect is strongest around the head (this is why some some space marines feel no need to wear a helmet anymore.)
The iron halo is a device every chapter uses. It is a shield generator that can be used to defend against attacks that would normally ignore the armor, like a lascanon, melta weapons, big artillery hits and such. It is usually only available for captains and chapter masters because it is so rare. Terminator armor has a similar effect and Chaos forces use a similar game effect but it is called dark aura there.
Yep, they are Primaris but still Ultramarines. They wear an upside down omega symbol btw, the normal omega symbol is used by the Alpha Legion (who are also sort of blue-ish). In TTS big E calls it a toilet seat :-)
On the tabletop there is usually not that much cover because you need to be able to move tanks and big creatures over the field. Sitting in a ruin isn't safe: artillery or some magic powers can still hit you and wipe out the squad (including Space Marines), so sometimes it is better to charge and get close (I guess the armor is the cover). Foot slogging is still the worst approach, tanks or drop pods are safer of course.
In 30k there are shield units, called breacher squads, they are really hard to shoot but many good units from 30k don't exist in 40k.
The animators maybe learned close combat from the movie Blade, where the stuntmen wait for Wesley Snipes to turn and fight them :-)
The Necrons also started not that original; they started as Chaos Androids and where copied from the Terminator movie before they put an Egyptian theme on them and fluffed them out.
I love in all your videos you are applying actual military logic. The problem is, in 40k, the rule of cool rules. Logic goes out the window to flex how badass you are on the enemy.
If you get into the tabletop choose which army you think is coolest. If you want availability choose space marines they’re easy to paint constantly being updated.