It looks like the best plane to destroy tanks , until reality hits you... ▶️ Bf 109 F-4
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- Опубликовано: 2 июн 2024
- Bf 109 F-4 is German aircraft in War Thunder. It is different from usual fighters because it can be equipped with machine guns with very unusual projectiles, that made the plane look especially promising in ground realistic battles, but then i had to face harsh reality.
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War thunder tank crew members: take a .50 cal to the face and turn orange
Arty shell drop at my tier 1 Soviet TD at the back all of those crew didnt receive any damage and .50 cal into my crew head several time and didnt die.
@@lapplandakman673 the power of vodka.
.50 cal to the head followed by turning orange is how trump was creeated
Once T29 shot my Type 61 and all he did was wounding my commander orange
Shhh wt is the most realistic sim out there, no buy premium and keep quiet xD
Yep. Sounds about right. I learned pretty early with the 109s in general (both flying them and being strafed by them) that most ground vehicles they can threaten with their guns are the same kind of vehicles that can be threatened by a particularly heavy rain.
@OneShotHD As stated in my post, I was referring to the guns, not any bomb payload. I also don't think that using 'they're lethal if you don't miss' as an effectiveness gauge is particularly helpful helpful.
electricbayonet2 agreed cuz I got 600 hours and have NEVER gotten a kill with 50 or 100kg bombs
@@sadlife8495 you probably have to drop it on the commander hatch to Do any damage
@@lordtachanka6489 The 50kg bombs on the 109 f4 drop in pairs. So you have 2 chances to drop. I once got 4 kills with them (2 double kills)
BF 109 F4: one of the best air fighter in the game.
HowToPlay1337: Ground Battle it is
I just fly the Duck and hope that
no one notices me
They ALWAYS notice. Then you blew then in head ons, and crash cause french engines surrender
@@TheEmolano I know but if no one notices you can get a lot of kills
What plane "duck" is?
@@chris2ndaccount69 hs 129 b3
Narwhal is best cannon cas
That side radiator is the air intake
No it's for the supercharger, all radiators in wings under the flaps.
@@garyrunnalls7714 air intake for supercharger that takes in air to engine
Thanks for noting that it is the air intake and not the radiator
No, the air intake is located under the engine, on the centerline. The small thing sticking out is a radiator. And no, Bf 109s DID NOT have superchargers.
@@robertbalazslorincz8218 I think you're mistaken. One of the most famous e aspects of the 109s powerplant wasn't just the DB 601 engine, but the introduction of an early supercharger system as well.
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Imagine needing a external gun pod to kill tanks effectively
- *This post is made by Yak-9T gang*
Bf-109 F-2?
Bf-109 F-2?
I wish the yak 9k could fire the aphebc rounds from the bt-5
Bf 109 F-2, Ta 152 C-3, and very many others
@Thomas Klostermeyer he said 9k
0:40 isnt that the air intake for the engine
I use the yellow color on planes nose to identify where is it's front, barely can identify anything more sophisticated.
@@HowToPlay1337 If you are interested that was the air intake, the small boxes under the nose and the wings were the radiators
Was going to say it
@@Roxor030 more specifically the intake for the Supercharger
@@stephenrogers981 or as we call it the air intake for the engine because the supercharges is part of it.
I love this plane, its one of my favorite Bf 109's ever. i unlocked all the skins for it, and i even got a free talisman on on it.
I did as well.
I unlocked all the skins not even knowing the specifics to unlock each one. Love it. Still use it in higher br's
Ivan Lesca yeah because it outturns fucking everything fuck the f4s above 5.0
@@FRDOMFGTHR that's the point, like the puma in end game
It was my favorite plane, it still is my most played one, but when I got the Ta 152 I fell in love it
The key To successfully pull out of dives turns out to be not accelerating down with 100 thrust.
The BF 109 planes are amazing at air superiority. Get lots of altitude, patrol the skies, and pick off opponents from the highest flying to ground level. Never engage in turn fights if it can be avoided. Dive from a few kilometer distance, take a few shots at the enemy plane, pull up and climb regardless if you missed, hit, or killed. Once your energy from speed is again transferred to altitude, get speed at that superior altitude and prepare for the next victim.
This way it's really hard for opponents to respond to your harassment, they basically have to dodge your assault, and after they have turned around to return fire, you will be too far and high to chase or shoot at. In a 1v1 this tactic can be survived by good pilots who know how to be evasive, taking up most of his focus from what ever he would be doing if you weren't bullying him. However bring a second BF 109, preferably premade party members in voice coms, and performing organized duo dives will be almost impossible to live through. The only way to survive is to dive waaaaay down and hope the Germans value their altitude more than taking your life.
Bringing this gem of air dominance down to attack tanks is baffling. You would be better off taking a ground attack plane that's actually made for the job with heavier guns and more armor, and letting the BF 109s keep the skies clean of allied scum.
Very well put man. The 109 is a great plane when you put it to it's intended job.
Bombs on a 109? Barbaric
the "radiator" on the left side is the compressor intake of the engine. great video nevertheless ;)
supercharger intake*
@@jjansgi exactly I was surprised he called it a radiator, I instantly scrolled down to the comments section to correct him
I haven't been able to eye out schematics... But knowing airplanes, and engineering....
I'd bet they multi-purposed it as an intercooler/oil cooler, and an intake.
But I'm just an idiot that's learning stuff.
@@Fightre_Flighte nope only engine intake, radiators are on the low part of the wing and directly below in front of the engine
@@davidegeronazzo687
How efficiently inefficient sounding.
But with sound sense. Engineering is a wonderfully mysterious beast.
Or that could just be the lack of sleep.
Honestly I prefer the E4 variant over the F4, the E4 allow you to have *both* 2 x 20 mm with the famous german anti-air rounds *and* a 250 kg bomb at the same time.
It's landing flaps are also quite amazing allowing you to pull out of dives that would make most other planes crash into the ground, it also allows you to for a *short* amount of time turn like a turn fighter allowing you to surprise enemies that's fighting you on their own that expect you to fly a lot more straight like a F4, and it allows you to slow down your plane more then most enemies are able too quite quickly, not quite a cobra but still enough to sometimes get behind someone who where originally at your tail if they've managed to get close enough to you due to you being slowed down by defensive flying.
Yes, the E4 can't kill more then 1 or 2 tanks in a battle, meaning that you're left with just open top stuff to kill after dropping your bomb.
But you're able to dogfight with that bomb surprisingly effectively (I usually *don't* drop my bomb when dog fighting in my E4, although I might drop a "surprise" if needed, sometimes getting me a tank and plane kill at the same time).
And you can protect those of your team mates who are bringing more bombs from enemy planes fairly effectively due to the effectiveness of the anti-air rounds in your two 20 mm cannons.
The 109 F-4 has always been my favorite 109.
Imagined thinking the schnitzel is a ground pounder lmao.
9:24 Soviet nuclear test in North Africa, circa 1942, colorized
Lol
6:28
If your aim is good you will hit most of the targets
You don't say
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Nice Video man love How you explain everythink keep it going❤
Dude, I got bored of Phlydaily and saw this in the recommendations. Your channel is a very good alternative.
Good commentary, too.
Videos getting better and better in quality goddaaaamnnn
This has probably already been mentioned, but the "radiator sticking out" is actually the intake for the supercharger. Oil radiator is under the engine and the coolant radiators are in the wings.
I mean, for Ground RB, it's an ok aircraft if you wish to ground pound soft targets. In intercepting Attackers? It's great, although I'd prefer the Stuka G2 or the 110G2 on the ground pounding role.
When I play the F4: attackers, P47 and stuff I can kill easily if I don't run out of ammo.
When I play premium boi D13: ALL YAKS AND SPITFIRES!
Just outrun em!
Ki-43-III Otsu may have small amount of ammo, but if you hit a plane with those 2 machine guns, he is dead
@@eduardkalmanawardze you mean the 40mm shotguns right?
@@weirddudes5543 no the 4.0 20mm version is better
My most used plane in tank rb. Very agile, very nice in air-to-air combat. I agree with the points in the video. 15 mm are nice to group more shots on planes, but that's about it.
You could also look at the Bf-109 F-2 at lower BR of 3.3, it has one of thes "unusual" machine guns in the nose with the same deadly ammo!
Hey man i relly like your channel, it's different than most WT youtuber out there your content is not only entertaining but also informative 👍. I am a relatively new WT player and still grinding rank 8 British vehicle, can you please do how to play the Warrior IFV?
The Me 410 B6/R3 (the one with 30MM HVAP) is the best German CAS strafer. When I used to play WT alot I picked that ME410 as CAS, I personally nickname it as the "strafer" since it kills most tanks in one run with its 30mms. Play smart and you will secure a minimum of 5 ground kills with it. Definitively changes the tide of a battle. (and also very good to grind SL and RP). To victory, men!!
nice man i really wanna see more
Great stuff here....thanks pal...
Do the ASU 85,one of the most painful vehicles to play...
I have been using this plane in-tank BR before I saw this video but now I know why it's so great. Thanks
Nice VIDEO! Can u make a video on bombing with different kind of planes in realistic ground battles?
I have a video suggestion.
It would be cool if you did a video on the L3/33c and specifically its ability to hide anywhere including inside of destroyed buildings
The deal with BF 109 F4 gun pods is the relic of Gaijin's dreams of bombers being useful.
These armored belts were meant to punch through the plane and crank the chaos inside. But bombers were always too detached from the gameplay and only a handful of planes had what it took to actually chase them, all while not having fun because climbing ain't fun.
Given how most climby planes got issues with firepower, Gaijin tried several approaches. The BF 109 F4 is one such way. The other, latter way was to make every bomber feel like it's made of rice paper. Then gaijin gave up and now BF 109 F4 is just a relic of old times.
Hmm interesting. The 15mm came about because the popular 20mm at the time the Oreliken was too big to fit through the center of the propeller hub, so they designed the 151 to fit that role, originally 15 mm and they loved it at first, as it had 850 mps velocity with standard rounds, but the AP was around 1050! But they soon found out that the rounds were overpenning and not doing damage, so they tried to make the 151 into a 20mm, and the mine shells were developed to fragment and do more damage.
It took a while for that to be done hence why the E model had a stopgap option the MG FF, until the 151/20s were ready. Though the rounds were only at about 600 mps and lost velocity as they were heavier. So the 15s were retained for things that required longer distance damage, and heavier armor.
You can also use these guns on the 109 F-2, the Do 335 A-1, the SDKFZ 251/21 AA, which it certainly does good for with the triple 151s.
G-2 at .3 higher probably a better answer, wonder how that works top down. Seems a bit heavy.
Good vid! I really recommend the Bf 109 F-2, same 15mm cannon but mounted on the nose and can carry a bomb at a lower BR. You can snipe pilots like a boss, kill crew/set engine fires with accurate nose mounted gun and destroy tanks with bomb
Cement core shell: *penetrates roof armour*
Inside tank: *light dusting hits crew*
0:38 that is actually an air intake for the supercharger for the engine. the radiators are on the bottom of the wings at the back.
Radiator sticks out? 😂 love the videos
Dude I love this plane, you kill M16s so easily and air to air combat is amazing
I thought for a moment there you said 100 2mm cannons
Honestly, as someone who plays RB and has tried out differnt planes, i've decided that the Bf 109 F-4 is the best multi-role fighter. I tried the dive bomber route, but they are terrible at facing the for certain enemy planes that will specifically target you out as "ez prey". I tried the striker class and though they have a better chance at fighting enemy planes, they lack speed and require an interesting aim. I've tried the FW line up, but somehow the fw is underpowered. Their rockets are not really worth it and suffer fighting in turns. They do got good guns. The F-4 is the best bf-109 for combat bc later era planes (such as the fw and later bf109's) were designed to intercept bombers during the 2nd half of the war. The guns on the bf-109 are 7/10. They will keeeeeel, but aren't inane one tappers. The f-4 is far more maneuvering than the FW's which lose energy so bad. Ngl, german planes aren't known for their turn rates, so ofc other planes will win in a 2 circle. The bomb on the plane will wreck even heavy tanks. The bomb is insane and can wreck tanks like the is6. Honestly, this is the best german plane u can really get.
‘Ay Htp, what do you think is the best way to get better at realistic tank battles? I have just reached br 6.0 and am really struggling with it. What are your best tips?
Love the videos.
Ah my favourite Messerschmitt,try out the rockets of the F-2 those are really disappointing,Gajin I guess
Are these rockets are available ONLY on F-2? I know these rockets sucks, but I killed few opponents with it. They are especcialy good for hunting bombers.
At least the G-6 gets way better rockets
Plane is 4.0, I am using it on 6.7 (as I am not much interested in planes research tree) and it still rules.
I spent so much time grinding american air only to realizes how its not even CLOSE to german air some would say its completely broken
man i never used the 15 mm .. thx for video, bf 109 f4 was my baby
This plane is a BEAST for air-to-air though. It’s amazing.
My fav/best fighter in the game. I love the white camo. It is great in Air RB and Ground RB
Do a video on the Ju-87 D-5? It's easily the most interesting one in the stuka lineup with all it's weapons options.
You should play the Yak-3p. It melts panthers and Panzers like butter, and can more than enough hold it’s own against planes, fantastic fighter and ground attacker.
Hey, the Bf-109 F-2 could be interesting too, it has the 15mm on place of the 20mm cannon.
I always loved the 15mm gunpods on the F4, i always wondered why there weren't more 109's that utilize that caliber, after a while i read that during testing by German engineers they found that while the 15mm does have greater velocity the 20mm won out due to it's larger damage potential against aircraft. It's a pity as i would almost always choose the 15 mm over the 20 in WT if given the option.
I already know this but still enjoyed the video!
You can use the Bf 109F-2 for more effective use of those guns, as the 15mm is located on the nose and the plane itself is lighter and sits lower in the BR range
I never liked the german 15mm. I have tried and tried to use the 15mm effectively against aircraft and tanks a while ago to no avail. I was hoping maybe one day the 15mm would be buffed as its a much bigger caliber than a 50 cal yet does no where near the amount of damage that a 50 cal does. As of now it seems to do a bit more damage to aircraft than before, however I think the main reason the 15mm does not do much damage is because it over penetrates the aircraft. Every time I have gotten a kill with a 15mm in a 109 with said 15mm, it was a pilot snipe, as it almost never destroys aircraft components.
I hope you make a collab with Oxy! You're both amazing WT RUclipsrs :D
You should try the F-2 BF-109. Its basically this but a centerlined 15mm Cannon with 200 rounds, plus that 250kg bomb, or 8 rockets to fire at planes (Since they are more meant for use against Bombers)
Could you review the puma next?, nice videos btw
It would be nice to have a video with the main tips in high tier ground battle (BR 8.7 and superior)
I don’t see how people can dislike this
Hey HTP1337, I have to ask since I've been wondering for a long time by now; Where are you from?
I've once gotten 2 T34 heavy tank with the four 50 kgs in 2 separate strikes you just need to be accurate
So about the F4 imho. It's a good plane for Air RB, played for alot of matches and is still one of my favourite 109s but taking it into Ground RB is the same opinion you showed us in the video.
Looking forward to an A6M video. Because no-one really has the balls to make one.
The bf109- f4 is honestly my favorite fighter. (I’ve only gotten to the g-6) and personally, I’ll always take extra cannons and rip apart planes. I’ve slapped the ground too many times in this plane when trying to kill tanks. 😭
1:15 nice double kill man
More vids pls you're already home doing nothing so make us happy lol
Ayy I wanted this airfraft.
My guy that's the air scoop for the turbocharger not a radiator... Really love the content tho!
Please do a video on the J-22 or J-21 series of aircraft! They are amazingly good imo.
The f2 is actually rather good. If you separate the cannon from the mg it's pretty nice. It's low br is a better match for the 15mm capabilities and since it's centrally mounted with 200rds it's good for most allied 3.3 vehicles
I heard that the 15mm cement core rounds are best for destroying engines on bombers and whatnot.
A cermet is a composite material composed of ceramic (cer) and metal (met) materials.
You are right. The war thunder wiki describes exactly the function of each plane and it's components. My gameplay became much more exciting after I started reading the Wiki for each vehicle. The 109 was always supposed to be a bomber killer, that's the reason it has such a great performance at high altitudes
I usually use the bf 110 G2 as it has a cheaper repair cost , it can carry 2x500kg bombs and i have a fully expert gunner.
HowToPlay1337 gives such good vehicles relatively low scores that I'm really curious what kind of vehicle would get a 10 out of 10 from him.
The 50kg bombs are great. Annihilate open tops. If you can direct hit a Sherman it dies which is pretty easy to do with such a fast fighter
1337, can you do the leopard 1 next?
oof. just hearing it's name give me uptier flashbacks
The one with the 15mm cannon in the nose is just as good at this
Pretty sure the "sticky out bit" is in fact for the supercharger for the engine and NOT a radiator intake.
Maybe review the early LaGG 3 series of planes. They have a Shvak and a 50cal and unlike the 109s, they are very effective at killing almost any tank you will meet, especially German tanks like the panzer 4 and stug.
And if you just ignore the gunpods and bombs it became a terror in the skies because it's much more manouvreable and can even follow spitfires long enough to land some airmine hits before they outturn you
now i play this aircraft alot, and i never use the additional canons against tanks, aircraft and lightly armored vehicles only
i actually use the 15mm cannons to kill tanks not the best option but against british rank 4 tanks with their 10mm of engine roof armor it actually can do something, but mainly i use the 15mm cannons to fight bombs in air rb and kill some enemy planes as the rounds are so in accurate that some stray shots will hit the plane even though the rest of my rounds arent
With the Bf 109 F-2 you get the 15mm and the 250kg bomb at the same time.
Try to play the T 55 AM 1 for a whole week. Its hard but sometimes very rewarding in some cases. Uptiers suck but if you use the right selection of rounds you can ruin the enemies.
0:40 This is the supercharger i guess, just like the Dora
The bf109 f4s are what i like to use for air to air fighting it my favourite
Could you please make a video about Leo 1? I would really appreciate it.
This specific variant of bf109 makes br 4.0 very unenjoyable indeed
Finally a 109! I've been waiting for this for months! Thank you. Also, the 109 F2 has the same gun, but in the nose, and at 3.3, so it might be a bit more powerful than this one.
But it does not have pods, it has only one and it overheats more, those are some pretty powerful tradeoffs
But it gets more ammo for the mg151
first of all, it has only one, but that one is in the nose, so its easier to aim. It does overheat more, and it does get less ammo, but its at 3.3. so they might be equal.
xXOpCseresznyeXx the bf109 f4 has 125 rounds for each 15mm while the f2 has 200 rounds for the 15mm
@@ninjastorm7664 Yes, I was saying that the F2 gets less ammo.
Could you try the J2Ms?
For ground RB? It's good, especially with the two rockets, they're amazing at destroying tanks. But you might want to use other planes for it that bring the same rockets, A7M2 is more maneuverable, N1K2 is more maneuverable and faster, the J2M is good at climbing but I doubt you'll be using it much in ground RB where the dogfights usually occur in low altitude
I love this plane so much. Those 15mm's can delete so much and it can be uptier to 6.3 and it's still great. Killing m18's with the 15mm's so so fun too. It turns well it has great firepower and it's just one of the best 109's that not enough people talk about. I probably have 500 plane and 100 tank kills with it.
Try the premium do335
@@samuelwurster2899 I don't give the snail money, plus the do compresses too much double plus it not the best dogfighter
@@vincentcasserole226 not for fighting planes its the best ground pounder Canon for Germany
@@samuelwurster2899 Gonna have to disagree with that, the squad 262 is better. mainly because it is at a br where top downing most things is a kill cause 4/5 of the crew is in the turret when fending off planes it mostly faces props which it can outrun and out gun.
In the bomb department I’m fairly certain literally all BF109’s can carry either 4 50lb/kg Bombs and 1-250lb/kg bomb except maybe the B1
This is literally BF109E1 on steroids
Love this plane !
F-4 is good plane to penetrate t-34's side armor. If you attack him at an angle, you'll definitely penetrate it. You must shoot AP belt of course:)
4x50kg bombs are accualy pretty good. if theresa bomb option like 4x50kg and 1x250kg or 1x500kg you can press space 2 times on a enemy and drop all 4 50kg and then use the heavier bomb for a different target, unless you miss the first 4
I have not Played that First map of your Video since 2019
The extra cannons mod is beast it makes hunting bombers easier killing fighters easier and tanks easier