Oh man! This, the Sm7b and the Focusrite 2i2 were what let me get into actual audiobook production. With a good dynamic and this tool, you can turn in radio-ready audio without having much ,if anything, in the way of soundproofing. Wonderful stuff!
I love the preamp. Before I got this, my interface struggled with a nearly maxed out gain to get decent sound. Now it's at zero and I let the dbx do the heavy lifting. Definitely takes some time to get the settings right but it's a must have for streamers that scream a lot and murder your ear drums.
Just upgrading to a RE-20 mic, and now adding a dbx 286s before my SSL2 interface. This video was super helpful! I already have a cloudlifter, so i'll just leave it in the chain before the 286s for extra clean gain, and keep the 286s turned down. I wish I had watched this old video on the 286s as I would have not gotten the cloudlifter, just the 286s! Great video, even your old ones are a gem.
This really is a nice device. For those wanting to use a stand-alone preamp like this, if you want the clearest signal possible be sure to use an audio interface or DAC where you can bypass any microphone preamps they may have onboard.
You used way too much de-essing and with the SM7B you dont really need it since the SM7B cuts out a lot of those sibilant high ends. Outside of that the Pre sounds great.
As old as this video is, I just bought one and I love it. I use it for vocals and just wanted some hardware to process going into my DAW. I know there are better preamps out there but for the overall price (which I bought used) for a home studio setup, I think it fits. The DIY vocal booth (pvc and moving blankets) I have in my walk-in closet just isn't enough, especially using an NT1. I'll work with this for a couple of years and upgrade as I save money!
Definitely a super economic, effective, and robust pre-amp/processing chain. It's perfect for broadcasting, and useful in a recording context. I record with it all the time, and it's a good way to tame the incoming signal for further processing. The gate/expander is particularly useful for me, since I have a bedroom studio with a computer running nearby. Good stuff, and worth every dollar.
Great review! As for what could be done better: for most users, it would be awesome if this had good enough audio interface integrated to avoid using another interface like Focusrite. Other than that, lower noise floor for mic amp would be even better but this is awesome already! And I think most users would prefer power button in the front of the unit. Having to cut the power from the mains power seems a bit ugly.
Definitely getting one of these. I've started doing fiction audiobooks, and have had a hell of a time dealing with clipping when a character screams and yells.
I've had mine for a little while now and I like it, works really nice. Julian Krause has a really nice video on how to set it up step by step. While it has a fair amount of gain I wish it still had a touch more on the main input for really low dynamic mics. Not the end of the world though since you can always boost it in the final stage, or on your interface if you use one or in your computer. Its far better than my 2i2 by itself though that is for sure. My only real complaint about this thing are just nit picky things. I wish came with some little rubber feet for the bottom since I don't use a rack. Mine sits on a glass shelf and it slides around really easy. Not a huge deal since these are things you buy for almost nothing. I just never remember to get any when I am out and about lol. And I really wish it had a power button. This thing is just on all the time and really don't use my mic a ton. And it does get a little warm. I fixed it by using one of those cheap remote switches for lights and what not. I had one anyway for the lamp in my room. I just have a little remote that looks like a car remote with three buttons on it. When I want to use the mic I just hit the button and turn it on and wait a few minutes for it to all warm up. Another up side is if I turn it off I don't hear room noise or whatever coming through mic while using headphones. I use my 2i2 as a headphone pre amp for my computer. Now I can disable the mic where as before I couldn't unless I unplugged it or something.
Just got this and used it with my cloud lifter and sm7b and holy shit. The gain is set at 20 and it blows my ears away! Everything is crystal clear.highly recommend for professionals and enthusiasts.
Very good review, what was missing is that you didn't throw the box towards the back door, that makes you unique, don't stop throwing the boxes, it doesn't matter the size!
You arent supposed to hit the 6dB (red light.) That's why it sounds not good. If you say "ssssss" then set it to where the green light just goes on at full brightness, it's more than enough and it doesn't sound like there is a de-esser at all. It just removes a bit of the painfullness at that point.
@@TheTopMostDog "Hence Me Saying" Howabout Getting The Equipment & Tweaking The Knob/Button However "YOU LIKE..." Since You Never Liked The De-esser Setting Demonstrated On The Video? 🤷♂️
I got both the DBX 286S and the GoXLR I use all the processors on the DBX and just use the interface + sampler and faders on the GoXLR, I really like the 80hz high-pass filter on the DBX.
I love the 286! It’s really awesome for dialing in sound and not having to fiddle in a DAW too much for post. I have the a and the xs sonically they sound the same to me. I recommend it to basically anyone using an SM7b and doing spoken word (Voice overs, podcasts, etc).
Request for clarity: How does the Threshold work on the Gate/Expander? Does it actually remove the background noise? Or does it just mute everything if the overall volume is below a certain point and conversely let everything through (including background noise) if the overall volume exceeds the threshold? I'm pretty sure it's the latter. If so you might be giving some of your viewers unrealistic expectations.
I think that may be the better option. I rarely use the De-Esser or enhancer, so it would have done everything I needed but with 2 channels. Let me know how it goes.
This is the best dbx286 tutorial except for the lack of explaining the insert. I bought an Aphex Exciter but I'm not sure how to tie it in to the Dbx, or if I just wasted my money and it does the same thing that the Dbx HF and LF do.
I use this my Shure SM7B with my DBX286s along with a Cloudlifter CL-1 that goes into my Focusrite 18i8. Mannnnnnnn talking' about not needing much gain from the DBX 286s!!!! Prior to getting the Cloudlifter CL-1 I would have to turn my db gain on the DBX286s up to 80-90%. Now that I have the Cloudlifter CL-1 I only have to turn my db gain up to 20%. Wow what a difference!!! I also run an external DBX266xs Compressor/Gate out of the insert of the DBX 286s. That Cloudlifter CL-1 makes a huge difference!!!!
I still don't understand how you don't get more views. I mean this video is friggin gold right here. HOW ARE YOU NOT FAMOUS?! lol. Thank you for this information.
Podcastage Absolutely, I would click on that. Go down to your local gym and collab with a hot girl. there's channels out there that mix different foods together. When it comes to RUclips you just got to think outside of the box and try new things, do things other people haven't thought of. Your channel also doesn't have to just be all about Mics you could do mic reviews only on Mondays and then do something completely different on Tuesdays for example. That way you get to express multiple hobbies and you won't get bored and you train your audience when to watch. Just an idea. I've done plenty of RUclips research and could help you out quite a bit if you need it. The new RUclips trick is to do the loop-back trick. It's a way of "gaming" the youtube system and is very effective. It keeps people in a constant cycle of watching your video. It's how Jake Paul and Logan secretly and sneaky get millions of views. They create a fake front and appear to diss each other which creates drama and then people pick team Jake or team logan. The viewer will watch logan video and then be recommended by youtube to watch Jake video. Or be outraged and want to comment on the other channel. This creates a cycle. Other channels will involve 5-8 channel for a circle cycle. Anytime you see channels that frequently recommend each other or group of channels this is what they are doing in order to get more views and subs and watch time. it's one big game. I hope this was helpful.
Hi. Love the reviews. Thanks for the hard work. Just curious if there are newer versions of similar equipment that you would recommend. I like what this does, but the tech is 5-6 years old (at least). I'm sure since then that there is newer, better, cheaper stuff out there. Any suggestions, or is this still the one with your stamp of approval? Thanks. Great video, by the way. (and sorry if my previous comment still went through. I think I deleted it on accident)
Well... there is better. I suggest the Wheatstone M1 Digital Voice Processor. It's is awesome. I did have to laugh when you said cheaper. You can't even get this DBX for 200 anymore... it is now 240. However... the DBX286 is still the best bang for your buck in the low budget arena. If you can't afford $240... you really need to use your DAW to clean up your audio until you can save up.
A year ago, I was thinking of buying a DBX 286s, but opted for a Universal Audio Apollo Twin instead. For those not familiar with it: It is a high-quality audio Interface with built-in processors that can run plug-ins like compressor, gate, EQ, de-esser, echo, etc. in real time and virtually latency-free. (A few weeks ago, even Antares Autotune was released as a realtime plug-in for the Apollo.) First of all, I don't like the idea of combining 2 preamps, because it will introduce 2 times the noise and distortion. Secondly, the Apollo Twin has the size of a compact audio interface and saves me the space for a rack mount unit. Thirdly, the settings (for example, for different microphones) can be saved and recalled, something not possible with the DBX. I'm not saying the Apollo is better than the DBX, but I think it is an interesting alternative option that can do the same things as the DBX, plus lots more. The Apollo is pricier than, say, a Focusrite 2i2 interface plus a DBX 286s, but will be within reach for many people who consider buying a DBX 286s and who can afford microphones like an SM7B or RE20. I like your videos, keep up the good work.
First of all I would like to mention that I am one of your fans and I would like to thank you for your effort…I would like you to recommend a smaller version of the DBX 286s in which that it can be easy for traveling and it has almost the same features, thank you and waiting for your reply.
I find it better to set the enhancer first (especially the HF details) then go back to the de-esser, so you get the AIR frequency but not sibilant or too harsh.
Scarlet solo doesn't have a dedicated line input. If your pair it with a dbx286s you won't truly pass the internal pre-amps of the interface. As far as I know, 4i4 has dedicated line inputs at the back of it.
great video, i have been thinking in buying this specific pre amp, now i know i have to go and get it, can you do more of this videos, like pre amps or audio compressors, like the ART PRO VLA. ll tube compressor or stuffs like that, overall goood job
Chryys that's because it really isn't! Often times those clickbait videos are just there to tease the viewers or for the youtuber to put across a point with so much fillers(otherwise, the video would only last 30 seconds).
Not sure if this comment has been made or not, but if you are A/B testing with process bypass, make sure you have the levels matched so you dont fool yourself into liking the louder signal.
Thanks for doing this, Bandrew!!! Great job -- just enough detail. I am impressed with how quiet the pre-amp is, all the way up to 60dB. It looks like you're using only about 45db, for the SM7B? and with no Cloudlifter (for this test)? Sounds great. I thought you'd need it at 60 for that mic. Cool! In Windows 8.1, I do add a bit of extra boost from the Solo, but set minus-30dB from the DBX output gain -- I'll have to try what you're doing. With a condenser mic I set the DBX just over 45dB, but a few clicks short of 60 for dynamic mics. Anyway, the noise gate is fantastic -- totally kills the usual ambient sounds of the room and also, I find, any mic "self-noise". I don't think you said how you're connecting the DBX to the Solo, but I'm guessing 1/4 inch plugs at both ends -- which is good, but I find if I use a 1/4-inch to XLR cable, and plug into the Solo's mic (XLR) input, it more easily allows me the stereo-tracks look in Audacity that I'm used to. Thanks for letting me compare notes. I hope lots of your listeners will give this gear a try, and they will thank you for it. Have a great July 4th!!!
Dan Magoo Yes I'm using ~45dB of gain. The compressor and everything make up for the quiet signal. And I'm using 1/4" to XLR to connect it to the solo.
Andrew Sheppard, the ones I've used are TRS (both the 1/4" to XLR that I prefer, and the 1/4" to 1/4" that I tried), and that works fine -- not sure if TS would be OK as well. I also have a short XLR patch cable (male to female) for the DBX's mic input, so I can swap out mics without having to reach blindly behind the box, and I've been very happy with the cabling set-up, and with this product.
Im listening to your video through monitor speakers. it sounds like you have a lisp through alot of the video. its almost to much compression or something .
dude, you're videos are all soo good. Thank you! Right now for my content I use the Soundcraft ui16 but its pre amps are a bit noisy. Thinking this could class up my sound AND clean up the noise floor at the same time
Great review! Thinking of getting one for the podcasts, webinars, etc. that I regularly do. Any other similar units to consider? What are some good USB audio interface options?
Hi, nice review. I was more looking for a pre-amp with phantom power + compressor + reverb, to use with trumpet, open and with harmon mute so two inputs would be best and also the possibility to route one input through one or the other channel by simply using one switch (for usage on stage). The compressor would ideally have knobs such as "threshold, ratio, attack, release", or even "threshold, knee gentleness, ratio below knee, ratio above knee, attack release". The reverb should sound very natural and of course have parameters such has the decay length, not just presets. Pitch shift - harmonizer effects welcome. And it should have 24-bit and high sample rate. Well, LOL, an entirely new beast. This DBX 286s is certainly interesting, but I'd need at least to add a reverb and the chance to get ground loop noises is scary. Besides, "drive / density" is really the kind of compressor concept I would not like for this application, before realizing that those are the compressor parameters I was considering buying one and had already identified a seller near by.
This pre amp / processor sounds great, but it only has one input, do you know anything similar to this but with 2 inputs? because I suppose you can't use both inputs at once right?
It doesn't have two preamps, it's just a processor, but the 266XS does have two channels so you can use compression & noise gate on two mics: amzn.to/2hpNhtp
Hey bandrew. I mentioned the mackie onyx artist and producer interfaces in another video, but I got the artist model today (smaller $99 one). The build quality is phenomenal. You're gonna like this one a lot if you get a chance to review it.
Two questions: 1) Does using a DBX 286s pre-amp void the need for a Cloudlifter CL-1? 2) Can one connect multiple dynamic mics into one DBX 286s rack mountable unit? Thanks.
I think if you have the space and the money, get the rack! Better controls quality amp. But one rack is for one mic. The input allows one mic input. Cloud lifter has bigger units to allow for more mics
Great device, man! I've been waiting for this video long time ago. Do you recommend in this chain a cloudlifter cl-1 in game/voice over setup? Or is it not really necessary?
I am tired of audio interfaces having driver issues and coming to be DOA with lacklustre support to no support at all. I have decided to use this device connected to my ALC1220 motherboard audio and it should work.
I did not lend it to booth junkie. I've never spoken to the guy. It was just a happy accident that mine came out around the same time as his review. It's been on my schedule for like 2 months now.
This would exponentially improve the audio, if you didn’t do any post processing before getting this device, or if you did a really bad job. But the latter thing could be the case with this device just the same.
Nice video, will buy! Keep working on your technique! Only con Ican think of is that it only has 1 output which kind of sucks for me because i need a feed split going into PC and going into a mixer.
Hi , I’ve just got the dbx and when I switch it on from the power supply. It produces weird electric noise thing from the device which makes me nervous. Help..!
I had this problem too, so I sent back for a new one, the sound isn't as apparent now. They are sensitive to line noise and so on, the first copy may have been faulty.
Hi Bandrew. Bought mine today in Brisbane Australia. It has not been available for over a year so have been hanging out for it. I know exchange rates come to play but it makes me cry when I see how much cheaper gear is in the USA. I paid $339 Australian dollars. I'm sure it will be worth every penny. Anyway, luv ya posts. 1 question. What is all the gear in your rack?
Hi sir, I watched many of your videos, all are so great!! I would like to know is it recommend to pair Rode NT1 with DBX 286s? Because some review say this DBX device is made for dynamic mic only. Hope can get your reply. Thanks
You really don't want to buy one of these things, they sound awful. If you want a good cheap compressor, or limiter try the FMR RNC, or FMR RNLA. They are much more transparent and do a better job compressing and limiting audio.
@@ES-qm5hr I didn’t have any experience with the devices you mentioned, but I do own a dbx 286s. And while I’m pretty certain there are better devices (since it’s an entry level device), I am very happy with what it provides. There is no contest when comparing raw output and the sound I’m getting through dbx (mic is re20). And you get EQ, compression and noisegate/limiter in one package, which is very handy. So I strongly disagree with the notion of its sound being awful.
@@randomguy9802 Someone gave me a dbx 286s a long side a couple of other rack effects I bought. I ABed it with a bunch of other compressors and limiters I have and it came out the worst. It's hard to tell the difference without having a bunch of compressors to compare side by side. My feeling is it's too colored to make a good compressor for voices, especially all the other effects. You kind of want a compressor to do its job without altering the sound of your voice too much. The expresser and expander parts seem basically useless because of how bad they sound. That is why I recommended the RNC and RNLA because they are basically the same price and perform much better. They are far more natural sounding. They are probably the best low budget compressors on the market.
Just watched a tutorial on this thing from Booth Junkie a week ago or so, between both these videos I can tell that this seems pretty damn useful (particularly the compressor), but I think I'll hold off on it for a good long while until I figure out exactly how to build enough of an audience to warrant one. OBS has some processing effects that can help a bit already anyways. Great video as always!
Thank you for that interesting video and actually i bought the DBX 286s but i have a question if you please so where shall i connect my headphone so as to listen to my voice while i am recording? thank you, wish you all the best.
Hi there Bandrew! I know there've been raving reviews on this unit for VO and streaming applications. Would you recommend this preamp to home musicians as well (vs. some of the more colored preamps that may not have similar features such as the dbx like Gate, de-esser, compressor)?
i know what I'm about to ask doesn't relate to this video..but..i have a very low budget right now..so I'm thinking of buying the behringer xm8500 for recording songs..so is it worth it..? ps: i don't want to buy a condenser microphone right now as my room isn't completely noise proof...
Hello earthling, did you connect the DBX output to the XLR or the TRS input of the scarlett? As far as I am concerned, it is better to connect it to the TRS, in order to skip the mic preamp of the scarlett.
I have all of those effects in my Line6 POD Studio UX1 software called PodFarm. Except the preamp, which is totally shitty in the POD (and my model does not have phantom power to plug FetHead, because I wanted to - you know - save some bucks instead of getting the UX2 ;) )
Hello, thanks for the wonderful review 👍🏼Is there a big difference if you compare preamp self-noise between the Scarlett vs the DBX? I already own Scarlett 2i2 2nd gen and planning to get the DBX so I use its preamp (no processing) instead of Scarlett's built-in preamp. Am I making a right decision?
Just a question, does one require an additional DBX 286 pre-amp / processor for each pair of channels that one is using? Thus if one is shooting for a four or six channel system capacity, I guess one would need three DBX 286's to be able to support upwards of five guest. So I hope my aims are not too high, as in the long run of things I should be hosing a lot of group section on the prototypical subject of ulta-high security solutions and biomathematics.
just wondering if you are still using this. I have a small community radio station and this was gifted to the station...266SX. Seriously thinking of putting this in my setup.
@@dunste123 not really if you use the sm7b you have to put the gain at 55-60 for it to sound good. I have the goxlr with sm7b and no cloudlifter and im thinking of getting this. I have videos in my channel with demos of sound with goxlr and sm7b with no cloudlifter.
@@dunste123 i did just that and it magnifies the sounds in my room. It has noise gate but everytime i speak there is interference. If you dont get the cloudlifter you will hsve yo sound treat your room really well. Again check my channel and see how the quality is. Not very good.
Hey which trs to trs cable (brand and model number) shall I buy for connecting the dbx to the sound interface. How much length will it need ? Please respond
any decent quality brand will be just fine, and length depends on how far your interface is from the pre. 6ft is probably enough but that's a huge variable.
@@RestLess-MinD absolutely. That said, the signal is traveling at the speed of light through that copper cable. It's probably 60-80% of the speed through vacuum. You'd need a cable to the moon to get a 1 second delay.
Thanks for doing this review! What is the rack case that you have the 286s installed in? I checked your Kit pages but didn’t see it listed, and I’m looking for one of these to make my gear a little more easily portable. Thanks man!
I have a Behringer Xenyx X2222 Mixer with Channel Inserts for FXs. My current set-up I have the Shure SM7b microphone plugged into a Cloudlifter, then going in to my mixer. I'm thinking about purchasing the DBX286 to use with SM7b instead of the Cloudlifter. I would be using the DBX286 as a preamp mainly. If I plug the XLR cable from the microphone directly into Channel 1 on the mixer, then send the signal out the Channel Insert on the mixer to the DBX 286 and then back to the mixer, would this work? I've never used the Channel Inserts on my mixer before, but from what I understand the audio gets replaced coming back in to the mixer.
I fell in love with the Dbx 286s thanks to this neat review, but for some reason mine is very noisy. On top of that, if I set the De-esser at 4KHz, it starts to produce a crazy larsen-like whistle sound. Any idea why that could happen?
There's very few options that are alternatives to this if you want hardware options. The behringer is an option. There are digital interfaces that offer DSP. But as far as analog stuff at this price, it's about it.
As far as I can see, i COULD connect a DBX 286s to a MOTU M4 but NOT to an SSL2+? because i heard the line inputs on the M4 bypass the motu preamps... can someone confirm?! SO, IF TRUE, HOW COULD I USE A DBX 286S WITH AN SSL2+??!!
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Oh man! This, the Sm7b and the Focusrite 2i2 were what let me get into actual audiobook production. With a good dynamic and this tool, you can turn in radio-ready audio without having much ,if anything, in the way of soundproofing. Wonderful stuff!
Bandrew, I've been binge watching Podcastage for the past week. Love it! I also have enjoyed watching your room fill with equipment. Great work.
I love the preamp. Before I got this, my interface struggled with a nearly maxed out gain to get decent sound. Now it's at zero and I let the dbx do the heavy lifting. Definitely takes some time to get the settings right but it's a must have for streamers that scream a lot and murder your ear drums.
glad i do not watch of them
Just upgrading to a RE-20 mic, and now adding a dbx 286s before my SSL2 interface. This video was super helpful! I already have a cloudlifter, so i'll just leave it in the chain before the 286s for extra clean gain, and keep the 286s turned down. I wish I had watched this old video on the 286s as I would have not gotten the cloudlifter, just the 286s! Great video, even your old ones are a gem.
This really is a nice device. For those wanting to use a stand-alone preamp like this, if you want the clearest signal possible be sure to use an audio interface or DAC where you can bypass any microphone preamps they may have onboard.
Sir Nigel Cogs Gaming elaborate please.
Are you saying to make sure the USB interface's preamp can be bypassed?
Sir Nigel Cogs Gaming ,thanks for your advice iwas locking for
You used way too much de-essing and with the SM7B you dont really need it since the SM7B cuts out a lot of those sibilant high ends. Outside of that the Pre sounds great.
What do you mean, too much de-ething? I thought it thounded great!
@@zachvandyke2556 mike tython approvthd
I have the older A version (DBX 286A) which is basically the same thing and I absolutely love it..Best purchase i've ever made on audio equipment :).
Yeah! This is probably my favorite purchase of the last year.
:D.
As old as this video is, I just bought one and I love it. I use it for vocals and just wanted some hardware to process going into my DAW. I know there are better preamps out there but for the overall price (which I bought used) for a home studio setup, I think it fits. The DIY vocal booth (pvc and moving blankets) I have in my walk-in closet just isn't enough, especially using an NT1. I'll work with this for a couple of years and upgrade as I save money!
Definitely a super economic, effective, and robust pre-amp/processing chain. It's perfect for broadcasting, and useful in a recording context. I record with it all the time, and it's a good way to tame the incoming signal for further processing.
The gate/expander is particularly useful for me, since I have a bedroom studio with a computer running nearby. Good stuff, and worth every dollar.
Great review!
As for what could be done better: for most users, it would be awesome if this had good enough audio interface integrated to avoid using another interface like Focusrite. Other than that, lower noise floor for mic amp would be even better but this is awesome already!
And I think most users would prefer power button in the front of the unit. Having to cut the power from the mains power seems a bit ugly.
Definitely getting one of these. I've started doing fiction audiobooks, and have had a hell of a time dealing with clipping when a character screams and yells.
I've had mine for a little while now and I like it, works really nice. Julian Krause has a really nice video on how to set it up step by step. While it has a fair amount of gain I wish it still had a touch more on the main input for really low dynamic mics. Not the end of the world though since you can always boost it in the final stage, or on your interface if you use one or in your computer. Its far better than my 2i2 by itself though that is for sure. My only real complaint about this thing are just nit picky things. I wish came with some little rubber feet for the bottom since I don't use a rack. Mine sits on a glass shelf and it slides around really easy. Not a huge deal since these are things you buy for almost nothing. I just never remember to get any when I am out and about lol. And I really wish it had a power button. This thing is just on all the time and really don't use my mic a ton. And it does get a little warm. I fixed it by using one of those cheap remote switches for lights and what not. I had one anyway for the lamp in my room. I just have a little remote that looks like a car remote with three buttons on it. When I want to use the mic I just hit the button and turn it on and wait a few minutes for it to all warm up. Another up side is if I turn it off I don't hear room noise or whatever coming through mic while using headphones. I use my 2i2 as a headphone pre amp for my computer. Now I can disable the mic where as before I couldn't unless I unplugged it or something.
Just got this and used it with my cloud lifter and sm7b and holy shit. The gain is set at 20 and it blows my ears away! Everything is crystal clear.highly recommend for professionals and enthusiasts.
Very good review, what was missing is that you didn't throw the box towards the back door, that makes you unique, don't stop throwing the boxes, it doesn't matter the size!
I really don't like the de-esser on that setting. Sounds muffled, imho.
Well, Good News 😂
That's Just A Demonstration, Smart Ass 🙄
Buy The Equipment & Tweak The Settings However The Hell You Want 🤷♂️
@@MusaDays808 Hence me saying "on that setting"?
You arent supposed to hit the 6dB (red light.)
That's why it sounds not good.
If you say "ssssss" then set it to where the green light just goes on at full brightness, it's more than enough and it doesn't sound like there is a de-esser at all.
It just removes a bit of the painfullness at that point.
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Surprised I missed that. Cheers for pointing it out!
@@TheTopMostDog "Hence Me Saying" Howabout Getting The Equipment & Tweaking The Knob/Button However "YOU LIKE..." Since You Never Liked The De-esser Setting Demonstrated On The Video? 🤷♂️
I got both the DBX 286S and the GoXLR I use all the processors on the DBX and just use the interface + sampler and faders on the GoXLR, I really like the 80hz high-pass filter on the DBX.
I love the 286! It’s really awesome for dialing in sound and not having to fiddle in a DAW too much for post. I have the a and the xs sonically they sound the same to me. I recommend it to basically anyone using an SM7b and doing spoken word (Voice overs, podcasts, etc).
I have my DBX 286s coming in a couple of days. I know it is going to help the quality of my RUclips streams and recording no end. Cant wait!
We love our DBX 286s and use while recording training sessions. Great review!
Funny how I received the exact same package today (except the sm7b i already have the akg p120 in use)
Request for clarity: How does the Threshold work on the Gate/Expander? Does it actually remove the background noise? Or does it just mute everything if the overall volume is below a certain point and conversely let everything through (including background noise) if the overall volume exceeds the threshold? I'm pretty sure it's the latter. If so you might be giving some of your viewers unrealistic expectations.
I just ordered the DBX 266XS - mostly because of the dual channel input. I hope it performs as well as your DBX286s!
I think that may be the better option. I rarely use the De-Esser or enhancer, so it would have done everything I needed but with 2 channels. Let me know how it goes.
This is the best dbx286 tutorial except for the lack of explaining the insert. I bought an Aphex Exciter but I'm not sure how to tie it in to the Dbx, or if I just wasted my money and it does the same thing that the Dbx HF and LF do.
I use this my Shure SM7B with my DBX286s along with a Cloudlifter CL-1 that goes into my Focusrite 18i8. Mannnnnnnn talking' about not needing much gain from the DBX 286s!!!! Prior to getting the Cloudlifter CL-1 I would have to turn my db gain on the DBX286s up to 80-90%. Now that I have the Cloudlifter CL-1 I only have to turn my db gain up to 20%. Wow what a difference!!! I also run an external DBX266xs Compressor/Gate out of the insert of the DBX 286s. That Cloudlifter CL-1 makes a huge difference!!!!
That's such a sexy setup.
Geez that’s a lot of stuff.. and I’m over here looking at a simple 2i2 for my MacBook to record RUclips videos. I wish I had that kind of dough.
do you have cloudlifter in signal chain before dbx or after?
I still don't understand how you don't get more views. I mean this video is friggin gold right here. HOW ARE YOU NOT FAMOUS?! lol. Thank you for this information.
Because it's not "clickbait" hahahaha! And thanks man! Happy to know you enjoyed it.
Edward Berry it's not rocket science. Not very many people type in dbx 286s into the search box. DUH
FLOODOFSINS Wait! THEY DON'T!?!? Should my next video be called "Hot Girl Kissing Prank Gone Wrong"
Podcastage Absolutely, I would click on that. Go down to your local gym and collab with a hot girl. there's channels out there that mix different foods together. When it comes to RUclips you just got to think outside of the box and try new things, do things other people haven't thought of. Your channel also doesn't have to just be all about Mics you could do mic reviews only on Mondays and then do something completely different on Tuesdays for example. That way you get to express multiple hobbies and you won't get bored and you train your audience when to watch. Just an idea. I've done plenty of RUclips research and could help you out quite a bit if you need it. The new RUclips trick is to do the loop-back trick. It's a way of "gaming" the youtube system and is very effective. It keeps people in a constant cycle of watching your video. It's how Jake Paul and Logan secretly and sneaky get millions of views. They create a fake front and appear to diss each other which creates drama and then people pick team Jake or team logan. The viewer will watch logan video and then be recommended by youtube to watch Jake video. Or be outraged and want to comment on the other channel. This creates a cycle. Other channels will involve 5-8 channel for a circle cycle. Anytime you see channels that frequently recommend each other or group of channels this is what they are doing in order to get more views and subs and watch time. it's one big game. I hope this was helpful.
Hi.
Love the reviews. Thanks for the hard work.
Just curious if there are newer versions of similar equipment that you would recommend. I like what this does, but the tech is 5-6 years old (at least). I'm sure since then that there is newer, better, cheaper stuff out there.
Any suggestions, or is this still the one with your stamp of approval?
Thanks. Great video, by the way. (and sorry if my previous comment still went through. I think I deleted it on accident)
Well... there is better. I suggest the Wheatstone M1
Digital Voice Processor. It's is awesome. I did have to laugh when you said cheaper. You can't even get this DBX for 200 anymore... it is now 240. However... the DBX286 is still the best bang for your buck in the low budget arena. If you can't afford $240... you really need to use your DAW to clean up your audio until you can save up.
A year ago, I was thinking of buying a DBX 286s, but opted for a Universal Audio Apollo Twin instead. For those not familiar with it: It is a high-quality audio Interface with built-in processors that can run plug-ins like compressor, gate, EQ, de-esser, echo, etc. in real time and virtually latency-free. (A few weeks ago, even Antares Autotune was released as a realtime plug-in for the Apollo.) First of all, I don't like the idea of combining 2 preamps, because it will introduce 2 times the noise and distortion. Secondly, the Apollo Twin has the size of a compact audio interface and saves me the space for a rack mount unit. Thirdly, the settings (for example, for different microphones) can be saved and recalled, something not possible with the DBX.
I'm not saying the Apollo is better than the DBX, but I think it is an interesting alternative option that can do the same things as the DBX, plus lots more. The Apollo is pricier than, say, a Focusrite 2i2 interface plus a DBX 286s, but will be within reach for many people who consider buying a DBX 286s and who can afford microphones like an SM7B or RE20.
I like your videos, keep up the good work.
DBX 386s is another miracle in the world of creations. Now use any budget CM for best vocals and instruments.
First of all I would like to mention that I am one of your fans and I would like to thank you for your effort…I would like you to recommend a smaller version of the DBX 286s in which that it can be easy for traveling and it has almost the same features, thank you and waiting for your reply.
I find it better to set the enhancer first (especially the HF details) then go back to the de-esser, so you get the AIR frequency but not sibilant or too harsh.
Good advice. Thank you.
why is the "NOT CLICKBAIT" needed in the title???????
"NOT CLICKBAIT"
Seems legit...
Elastico345 it is not clickbait with podcastage.
HOT MINECRAFT/ROBLOX GIRLFRIEND STEALS MICROPHONE NOT CLICKBAIT
Scarlet solo doesn't have a dedicated line input. If your pair it with a dbx286s you won't truly pass the internal pre-amps of the interface. As far as I know, 4i4 has dedicated line inputs at the back of it.
So technically there's no need for another pre-amp like a cloudlifter or fethead?
For the sm7b you need another preamp.
@@TassosPhotographyStudio do you know how well it works with the EV re 320?
@@TassosPhotographyStudio I use it without a preamp as the 286s has plenty of gain.
@@BrianMackey2010 yes i want to know about the EV320 too with this set up
Trakman it works great. I have a neauman mic now but it’s great with the 320
great video, i have been thinking in buying this specific pre amp, now i know i have to go and get it, can you do more of this videos, like pre amps or audio compressors, like the ART PRO VLA. ll tube compressor or stuffs like that, overall goood job
What would you guys recommend if I wanted a 2 mic setup with voice editing in real time.
Two DBX 286s for sure.
i love how he casually puts "NOT CLICKBAIT" lmao
Chryys that's because it really isn't! Often times those clickbait videos are just there to tease the viewers or for the youtuber to put across a point with so much fillers(otherwise, the video would only last 30 seconds).
Not sure if this comment has been made or not, but if you are A/B testing with process bypass, make sure you have the levels matched so you dont fool yourself into liking the louder signal.
Thanks for doing this, Bandrew!!! Great job -- just enough detail. I am impressed with how quiet the pre-amp is, all the way up to 60dB. It looks like you're using only about 45db, for the SM7B? and with no Cloudlifter (for this test)? Sounds great. I thought you'd need it at 60 for that mic. Cool! In Windows 8.1, I do add a bit of extra boost from the Solo, but set minus-30dB from the DBX output gain -- I'll have to try what you're doing. With a condenser mic I set the DBX just over 45dB, but a few clicks short of 60 for dynamic mics. Anyway, the noise gate is fantastic -- totally kills the usual ambient sounds of the room and also, I find, any mic "self-noise". I don't think you said how you're connecting the DBX to the Solo, but I'm guessing 1/4 inch plugs at both ends -- which is good, but I find if I use a 1/4-inch to XLR cable, and plug into the Solo's mic (XLR) input, it more easily allows me the stereo-tracks look in Audacity that I'm used to. Thanks for letting me compare notes. I hope lots of your listeners will give this gear a try, and they will thank you for it. Have a great July 4th!!!
Dan Magoo Yes I'm using ~45dB of gain. The compressor and everything make up for the quiet signal. And I'm using 1/4" to XLR to connect it to the solo.
Andrew Sheppard, the ones I've used are TRS (both the 1/4" to XLR that I prefer, and the 1/4" to 1/4" that I tried), and that works fine -- not sure if TS would be OK as well. I also have a short XLR patch cable (male to female) for the DBX's mic input, so I can swap out mics without having to reach blindly behind the box, and I've been very happy with the cabling set-up, and with this product.
I wish I could hire you to just help me create a killer studio with a set budget
Im listening to your video through monitor speakers. it sounds like you have a lisp through alot of the video. its almost to much compression or something .
I think I have too much ocompression, de-esser, and enchancer on.
Podcastage in a way, this sounds like you're at the salon...
Advanced Microphone Reviews if you’re using compression to make it louder you’re using it wrong
its the D-Esser
please could you do more preamp comparisons, you re the best! what are you doing whit all these devises after review
dude, you're videos are all soo good. Thank you! Right now for my content I use the Soundcraft ui16 but its pre amps are a bit noisy. Thinking this could class up my sound AND clean up the noise floor at the same time
Great review! Thinking of getting one for the podcasts, webinars, etc. that I regularly do. Any other similar units to consider? What are some good USB audio interface options?
Hi, nice review. I was more looking for a pre-amp with phantom power + compressor + reverb, to use with trumpet, open and with harmon mute so two inputs would be best and also the possibility to route one input through one or the other channel by simply using one switch (for usage on stage). The compressor would ideally have knobs such as "threshold, ratio, attack, release", or even "threshold, knee gentleness, ratio below knee, ratio above knee, attack release". The reverb should sound very natural and of course have parameters such has the decay length, not just presets. Pitch shift - harmonizer effects welcome. And it should have 24-bit and high sample rate. Well, LOL, an entirely new beast. This DBX 286s is certainly interesting, but I'd need at least to add a reverb and the chance to get ground loop noises is scary. Besides, "drive / density" is really the kind of compressor concept I would not like for this application, before realizing that those are the compressor parameters I was considering buying one and had already identified a seller near by.
Good essay, dood.
You know me Bandrew, I use this thing, and it is godlike. Lol.
I could not agree more.
do a mic drop test
Crunkmaster Flex I'd happily do that with a cad u1. Ha.
Podcastage
Which fares the best with a drop test? The NW-700, BM-700, NW-7000...(etc)
obvious_humor
There is a versus series on the channel.
Get Linus on that one
LTT fans will get this one...
okay so I'm confused how to connect the dbx 286s Microphone Preamp & Channel Strip Processor to the audio interface
We need reviews for this type of equipment too!
Due to other products with equivalent functions (aka "Channel Strip") are too expensive for podcasters, so I think that he wouldn't do that.
This pre amp / processor sounds great, but it only has one input,
do you know anything similar to this but with 2 inputs? because I suppose you can't use both inputs at once right?
It doesn't have two preamps, it's just a processor, but the 266XS does have two channels so you can use compression & noise gate on two mics: amzn.to/2hpNhtp
Thanks for the reply. I'll check it out.
That's crazy lol
I just ordered one of these a few days ago from sweetwater.
Thanks for the review bandrew. :-)
GREAT CHOICE!
Hey bandrew. I mentioned the mackie onyx artist and producer interfaces in another video, but I got the artist model today (smaller $99 one). The build quality is phenomenal. You're gonna like this one a lot if you get a chance to review it.
Two questions: 1) Does using a DBX 286s pre-amp void the need for a Cloudlifter CL-1? 2) Can one connect multiple dynamic mics into one DBX 286s rack mountable unit? Thanks.
I think if you have the space and the money, get the rack! Better controls quality amp.
But one rack is for one mic. The input allows one mic input. Cloud lifter has bigger units to allow for more mics
Great device, man! I've been waiting for this video long time ago. Do you recommend in this chain a cloudlifter cl-1 in game/voice over setup? Or is it not really necessary?
Gera Games With this, the CL1 wouldn't be necessary. For my podcasts I still use it, and it's COMPLETELY overkill.
Great review, you're the best!
-Can it be connected to a sound card? If yes, how?
-Can it be used in a DAW after a vocal has been recorded?
dude you're awesome I love the way you explain things
I am tired of audio interfaces having driver issues and coming to be DOA with lacklustre support to no support at all. I have decided to use this device connected to my ALC1220 motherboard audio and it should work.
Nice! I'd love to have one of these. Also, were you the one that loaned this out to Booth Junkie?
I did not lend it to booth junkie. I've never spoken to the guy. It was just a happy accident that mine came out around the same time as his review. It's been on my schedule for like 2 months now.
You do awesome reviews. You've made my decision easier. Thanks man. 😃
This would exponentially improve the audio, if you didn’t do any post processing before getting this device, or if you did a really bad job. But the latter thing could be the case with this device just the same.
Nice video, will buy! Keep working on your technique! Only con Ican think of is that it only has 1 output which kind of sucks for me because i need a feed split going into PC and going into a mixer.
Do i need a cloudlifter in combination with the shure sm7b and the dbx 286s?
In some videos they say yes in other no🧐
Use this litter sucker as a backup works amazing
DBX is such an amazing brand. i have many DBX products
Nice tutorial, do you have a video on how to set up a microphone compressor ? Ratio, threshold, attack, release...etc. Thank you
Very helpful thank you !
Hi , I’ve just got the dbx and when I switch it on from the power supply. It produces weird electric noise thing from the device which makes me nervous. Help..!
I had this problem too, so I sent back for a new one, the sound isn't as apparent now. They are sensitive to line noise and so on, the first copy may have been faulty.
Nice device and helpful review but your voice sounds better with the simpler setup, with your Scarlett or whatever you use.
What is the preamp with lowest noise th
The Audient ID4 or the Audiofuse have some of the best pres and noise performance in an interface I've tested.
Hi Bandrew. Bought mine today in Brisbane Australia. It has not been available for over a year so have been hanging out for it. I know exchange rates come to play but it makes me cry when I see how much cheaper gear is in the USA. I paid $339 Australian dollars. I'm sure it will be worth every penny. Anyway, luv ya posts. 1 question. What is all the gear in your rack?
Hi sir, I watched many of your videos, all are so great!!
I would like to know is it recommend to pair Rode NT1 with DBX 286s?
Because some review say this DBX device is made for dynamic mic only.
Hope can get your reply. Thanks
it can definitely take condenser mics as well
You really don't want to buy one of these things, they sound awful. If you want a good cheap compressor, or limiter try the FMR RNC, or FMR RNLA. They are much more transparent and do a better job compressing and limiting audio.
@@ES-qm5hr I didn’t have any experience with the devices you mentioned, but I do own a dbx 286s. And while I’m pretty certain there are better devices (since it’s an entry level device), I am very happy with what it provides. There is no contest when comparing raw output and the sound I’m getting through dbx (mic is re20). And you get EQ, compression and noisegate/limiter in one package, which is very handy.
So I strongly disagree with the notion of its sound being awful.
@@randomguy9802 Someone gave me a dbx 286s a long side a couple of other rack effects I bought. I ABed it with a bunch of other compressors and limiters I have and it came out the worst. It's hard to tell the difference without having a bunch of compressors to compare side by side.
My feeling is it's too colored to make a good compressor for voices, especially all the other effects. You kind of want a compressor to do its job without altering the sound of your voice too much. The expresser and expander parts seem basically useless because of how bad they sound.
That is why I recommended the RNC and RNLA because they are basically the same price and perform much better. They are far more natural sounding. They are probably the best low budget compressors on the market.
Danke!
Thank you so much!
Just watched a tutorial on this thing from Booth Junkie a week ago or so, between both these videos I can tell that this seems pretty damn useful (particularly the compressor), but I think I'll hold off on it for a good long while until I figure out exactly how to build enough of an audience to warrant one. OBS has some processing effects that can help a bit already anyways. Great video as always!
There is also the FMR Audio Really Nice Compressor which is a dedicated compressor designed to be clear and affordable. I recommend checking it out.
Would you Recommend this for Capturing clear vocals for making music?
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Hello! Do you have the electronic diagram for this dbx286s equipment? Thank you.
BANDREW! MY GUY! Plz review
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Thank you for that interesting video and actually i bought the DBX 286s but i have a question if you please so where shall i connect my headphone so as to listen to my voice while i am recording? thank you, wish you all the best.
Hi there Bandrew! I know there've been raving reviews on this unit for VO and streaming applications.
Would you recommend this preamp to home musicians as well (vs. some of the more colored preamps that may not have similar features such as the dbx like Gate, de-esser, compressor)?
I mean, considering my current set up, anything would probably improve it
do you have a at2020 lying around? would love to hear samples using the at2020 + 286s . planning on buying one :) thanks ! great vid as always
i know what I'm about to ask doesn't relate to this video..but..i have a very low budget right now..so I'm thinking of buying the behringer xm8500 for recording songs..so is it worth it..?
ps: i don't want to buy a condenser microphone right now as my room isn't completely noise proof...
Hello earthling, did you connect the DBX output to the XLR or the TRS input of the scarlett?
As far as I am concerned, it is better to connect it to the TRS, in order to skip the mic preamp of the scarlett.
I have all of those effects in my Line6 POD Studio UX1 software called PodFarm. Except the preamp, which is totally shitty in the POD (and my model does not have phantom power to plug FetHead, because I wanted to - you know - save some bucks instead of getting the UX2 ;) )
Hello, thanks for the wonderful review 👍🏼Is there a big difference if you compare preamp self-noise between the Scarlett vs the DBX? I already own Scarlett 2i2 2nd gen and planning to get the DBX so I use its preamp (no processing) instead of Scarlett's built-in preamp. Am I making a right decision?
Any answer please 😩
Hello Podcastage 🙄
Just a question, does one require an additional DBX 286 pre-amp / processor for each pair of channels that one is using? Thus if one is shooting for a four or six channel system capacity, I guess one would need three DBX 286's to be able to support upwards of five guest. So I hope my aims are not too high, as in the long run of things I should be hosing a lot of group section on the prototypical subject of ulta-high security solutions and biomathematics.
Do you think it s better than a little tube preamp... ? Thank for your magic channel !G.
just wondering if you are still using this. I have a small community radio station and this was gifted to the station...266SX. Seriously thinking of putting this in my setup.
Super helpful. Thanks!
other channels done know how to review, can you please review the razer seiren condenser Mic?
I did the razer seiren pro which is essentially the same thing with just a few additional features.
Could this be used with a goxlr?
it 100% could but why would you? the goxlr has this type of processing build-in
True. And it’s quite good stuff in there as well.
@@dunste123 not really if you use the sm7b you have to put the gain at 55-60 for it to sound good. I have the goxlr with sm7b and no cloudlifter and im thinking of getting this. I have videos in my channel with demos of sound with goxlr and sm7b with no cloudlifter.
@@coffeebeardtv a goxlr has plenty of gain for an sm7b, don't waste your money and just up the gain lmao
@@dunste123 i did just that and it magnifies the sounds in my room. It has noise gate but everytime i speak there is interference. If you dont get the cloudlifter you will hsve yo sound treat your room really well. Again check my channel and see how the quality is. Not very good.
A must have piece of gear!
How does it turn off? I tried clapping my hands since there is no ON/OFF button but nothing happened...
Hey which trs to trs cable (brand and model number) shall I buy for connecting the dbx to the sound interface. How much length will it need ? Please respond
any decent quality brand will be just fine, and length depends on how far your interface is from the pre. 6ft is probably enough but that's a huge variable.
also if its too long you will have delay
@@RestLess-MinD eh, not really. if its a super long run, maybe. but the interface is gonna cause more latency than a cable.
@@RestLess-MinD absolutely. That said, the signal is traveling at the speed of light through that copper cable. It's probably 60-80% of the speed through vacuum. You'd need a cable to the moon to get a 1 second delay.
Thanks for doing this review! What is the rack case that you have the 286s installed in? I checked your Kit pages but didn’t see it listed, and I’m looking for one of these to make my gear a little more easily portable. Thanks man!
Sorry mate. Here you go: amzn.to/2ISEmch
Thanks man! The link is much appreciated. If I end up pulling the trigger on it, I'll def use your link.
I have a Behringer Xenyx X2222 Mixer with Channel Inserts for FXs. My current set-up I have the Shure SM7b microphone plugged into a Cloudlifter, then going in to my mixer. I'm thinking about purchasing the DBX286 to use with SM7b instead of the Cloudlifter. I would be using the DBX286 as a preamp mainly. If I plug the XLR cable from the microphone directly into Channel 1 on the mixer, then send the signal out the Channel Insert on the mixer to the DBX 286 and then back to the mixer, would this work? I've never used the Channel Inserts on my mixer before, but from what I understand the audio gets replaced coming back in to the mixer.
yeaiiii thanks for the review
I fell in love with the Dbx 286s thanks to this neat review, but for some reason mine is very noisy.
On top of that, if I set the De-esser at 4KHz, it starts to produce a crazy larsen-like whistle sound. Any idea why that could happen?
Hi brother, quick question for you. 6 years later, you’ll still recomend that 1?
Thanks bro! Big up!!
There's very few options that are alternatives to this if you want hardware options. The behringer is an option. There are digital interfaces that offer DSP. But as far as analog stuff at this price, it's about it.
As far as I can see, i COULD connect a DBX 286s to a MOTU M4 but NOT to an SSL2+?
because i heard the line inputs on the M4 bypass the motu preamps... can someone confirm?!
SO, IF TRUE, HOW COULD I USE A DBX 286S WITH AN SSL2+??!!
I like this video. You should do more pre-amp videos.
Haha, you set the de-esser so high it sounds like you have a lisp :D