Horizon Forbidden West | 40 GPUs Tested [1080p, 1440p, 4K | Medium, High, Very High + Upscaling]
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- Опубликовано: 6 июл 2024
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Horizon Forbidden West has finally come to PC, and with this new release we decided to see how the game performs in a variety of GPUs, 40 to be exact, so after many hours of nothing but tests, we're finally ready to share our results, and some weirdness we noticed along the way.
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00:00 Introduction
00:28 Sponsor
01:22 The Game
02:58 Settings
04:09 Video Quality
05:21 How We Test
06:39 Medium 1080p
08:07 Medium 1440p
09:12 Medium 4K
10:38 High 1080p
11:36 High 1440p
12:35 High 4K
13:49 Very High 1080p
15:00 Very High 1440p
15:59 Very High 4K
16:58 Upscaling Issues
18:10 Upscaling 1080p
19:55 Upscaling 1440p
21:43 Upscaling 4K
23:41 Upscaling Visuals
24:12 Final Thoughts
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I bought a 6950xt a little over a year ago for around $600...what a great buy🙌
My son use my old 6900xt tuned with MPT from Igors Lab. Its still a heavy Card today. And stay cool now
@@m.m.3753 I love mine! I do use an undervolt that helps with the power/heat it pulls while still performing better!
Same here! Though I was able to grab one for $500
@@NVinnytry the MorePowerTool from Igors Lab. You can undervolt the SoC and Set the curent too. Mine Push max 2.700 MHz on 1.075V and hold it. Max temp on Hotspot is 90 degrees.
@@NateNakaowhat a steal!
Thanks for all the work. Looks like it's going to be a great video
This was the creative video I was waiting for
Still very happy with the placing of my 3060ti at 1440 from these results, especially with dlss. Would have to pay a lot of money for a meaningful upgrade.
Great video! Very surprised to see how well the 2080ti holds up. I have an FE for my new build and thought I'd only get up to High on 1080p, Very High is even better. Decent frame rates too.
Can you provide the data in a excel sheet format ? I would like add pricing of my region and sort accordingly
Been getting 120fps at 4k native/DLAA/max settings on my 4090, with frame gen but no upscaling. No frame pacing, latency is good. It's been great.
"Very low and low take a the beating" still looks damn good to me lol, i wonder what path tracing would do to a game like this.
Thank you for your effort, I'm enjoying the game on a 6700xt, and wow is it beautiful.
Damn. I didn't expect my 6700XT to be able to play the game this well.
me neither as I'm barely getting above 40fps @ 1440p medium
is my card broken?
is my Ryzen 5 3600 the underlying issue?
not asking you @sitordan just yeeting my frustration at the universe ._.
@@schluckauff I was just making that assumption from looking at the results in the video. I have yet to buy and play the game myself. Thing is I'm still using a 1080p monitor so that's why I was so enthusiastic about the performance.
@@schluckauffyou will see a decent fps push if you tried a 5600x :)
@@schluckauff I'd suspect the 3600 as part of the problem, yes. It's a good chip, but every PS5/XSeries game is at its heart designed for 8 cores. With the 3600 being relatively low on clock speed (albeit not as low as the console parts) and down on cores, it isn't shocking to see it choke a bit here.
For now, try going /up/ on graphics settings, it may help with perceived smoothness. If you have an aftermarket cooler, some overclocking may help as well.
Failing that, the 5700X is down to pricing not dissimilar to the 3600 when it was released, and it is a 65W TDP part just like the 3600 non-X so even if you're stuck on a stock cooler, it'll do well. Avoid the 5600X as it's largely a side-grade from the 3600 due to the core limitation. The 7600X puts up a good fight most of the time, but that's because it has brute force clock speeds just high enough to play "catch up" on the 2 missing threads vs a console.
I assume this doesn't take in to account the emense strain that the Burning Shores puts on the hardware, specifically near the end (if you know, you know).
Very good video. I watched the whole thing. I love it. I wish you showed the upscaling for 6900xt, as it performed really well, but it seems the 6800 seems to perform well as well. PS CoolestJake, BTW. Have a nice day, Subed, and like :)
3080 ti faster than 3090, 4070 super, 4070 ti in 4k. Power Consumption ins much more too
Upscaling broken on the very cards that need it most at the lower end. I hope it gets fixed with patches and/or driver updates. That said, upscaling was tested on Very High, where these cheaper cards likely won't be used. I wonder if it works properly or at least better at Medium settings?
On high its better, but on very high it runs out of vram which it why it does that (4060)
I'm leaving this video playing in a tab for your hardwork.
FG "uses" a bit of VRAM so I'm not surprised it has issues on 8GB GPU's at maxed settings, even more so in the case of the 4060 that also is limited in bandwidth. Maybe you could try FG with the lowest settings on the 4060 to see if this results the uplift you would normally expect?
Will give it a run tomorrow to see what happens. Feel free to join our discord to remind me.
Vram is causing the issue on the RTX4060 as seen by a few game testing sites as “high” and “very high” graphical settings often peak at around 9.5gb of usage which cripples the 8gb vram buffer and FG does often use in many titles between 1.5-2GB of vram so the RTX4060 is limited to medium graphics settings for a smoother gameplay scenario.
Yup at higher resolutions very high or even high textures will need more than 8GB VRAM. Its swapping into system RAM thus lower framerates.
Can confirm 4070ti super has crazy frame pacing issues with frame gen on with little uplift in performance, 95 fps to 110
Game seems to run a lot better with taa
Even dlaa introduces frame pacing issues, just anything that runs on the tensor cores adds weird inconsistencies
1440p native taa and frame cap in rtss ( with front edge sync ) is currently the way to go
Wooo my 7900xt clapping 4080 supers in this game 😂
Had to decide between both and today my 7900xt pulse will arrive. Excited since i got my hands on a mint PULSE for 620€. Beating the almost 60% more expensive card is great. :)
The only issue is the power draw cuz 4080s consumes close to 150w less almost all the time.
edit: I was comparing power draw of 4080s with 7900 *xtx* (not xt).
@@bipulgamer07 This was one of my concerns. But capping fps to 60 or 72 (I only play single player games) evens it out by a lot - even if not completely. If it's not way over 1200€ a 5080 will follow next year...
@@Peter_F300 but what's the point of buying a flagship gpu when you're only playing at 60fps? Enjoy it to its fullest if you've bought it. That's what I'd do at least.
@bipulgamer07 very true about the power draw. A 4080 super would be fine with my 750psu a 7900xtx is another story 🙃 which is why the xtx wasn't gonna be an option for me.
If the 4080 supers were at msrp I probably would have picked one up before my 7900xt. I think a few of them are pretty close to msrp now. Cause it wasn't the case last month lol
The cut scenes in this game 🤢🤮🫠
how come there is a huge margin between 7800xt and 6800xt in 1080p. it should be a a marginal difference as shown for 1440p. also 7800xt missing for upscaling data
I am playing this game at 4K and I am experiencing slight CPU bottleneck, where my GPU sits around at 85% usage for most of the time. I still have around 90 FPS average with Very High preset + DLSS (Quality) + Frame generation on. I have RTX 4080 + i9-9900KS @ 4.8 GHz all cores +32 GB DDR4-4000MHz RAM and the game looks fantastic!
9900K flies with tuned RAM. Tighten the RAM subtiming, not as easy as CPU & CPU overclocking though.
At the very least, CPU overclock to 5.0GHz all cores and 4.7GHz ring bus. I would imagine every 9900KS chip would be able to do that.
The repack includes a mod for FSR 3
Rocking the game on a 3060ti 4K DLSS quality on high settings at 50fps. 60fps if I go 21:9 1600p.
Getting serious stuttering in motion with reflex on and frame-generation. Frame-time graph looks rough while running around that starting area but standing still and looking around is smooth. (4080S)
I can't tell the difference between 1080p and 4K so I saved money and bought a PS5 instead. Even higher frame rates don't register, so they're wasted on me as well.
How can you not tell the difference from 1080p to 4k, blind?
u look like u haven't slept in last 4 days XD....ty for the review man really appreciate it cuz i have a 5600x and a 3080ti and just downloaded the game
I would have liked to an a770 sine it supports XeSS
no 2080 super pair with a i9-10900K?
Data source: Trust me bro 👎
I bought both HZD and HFW few days ago. HFW works fine but the HZD is just crashing on the black loading screen. Spent a day and tried all what I have found on RUclips but still no luck. I guess 14900K, 4090, 32GB DDR5 is not enough to play shitty port from years ago.
have you taken into account that the game is compiling shaders the first time you start the game and after Hardware and/or driver changes? This takes around 15 min in the main menu and should be visible as higher CPU load. It should have high performance impact while playing without shaders beiing pre compiled and might explain some the wierd behaviour, like on the 4060. Not for frame gen though as 8GB Vram is just not enough for FG.
@18:00 - when you average across all threads, you get essentially the same %usage between the two scenarios? I don't see how you're saying that the CPU is being utilised more?!
Also, please note that the core frequency at native is locked at the maximum, whereas it's lower on FG+DLSS - indicating that the CPU is not working as hard (as you would expect!)
FG-on results for the RTX 4060 make 100% sense since the card is effectively out of VRAM and the framegen requires even more memory on top of DLSS, anyway...
The reason why the 4060 probably loses a little performance with upscaling on when the RX 7600 and RX 6600 XT manage to increase very slightly may be due to the narrow bus width combined with the smaller 24MB of L2 compared with the 32 MB of the L3 on both AMD cards. Note that the lows drop in all cases - likely due to VRAM penalty mentioned above.
The RTX 3060 Ti manages to increase performance likely due to the wider bus width compared to the other cards we're talking about - despite the smaller on-die cache.
On my own testing HFW runs on Intel (14700KF) a little bit faster than with 7950X3D.
It likes all cores on 7950X3D. Without CCD1 u lose a bit performance.
The 7900 xtx looking like a monster
The common denominator on the cards that show weird FSR/DLSS issues its the Memory Bus. AMD got round the bus issue with infinity cash but NVidia doesn't have this technology. I think 128bit isn't enough to allow DSR/DLSS to work on this game for some reason.
For me the 6600xt looks pretty strong native at 1080p which is fine for me as that is what my monitors are. If you were going 4k you wouldn't get a 60 class or lower card from either AMD on NVidia. I don't know why people go 4k if they only have a 60 class card surely they would be better going 1440p and spending the saved money on a 70 or 80 class card.
My with 7800x3d Rtx 3070 high setting don’t get this result bro
Different memory, different 3070, different scene. So many variables.
@@eTeknixmemory clock of 3070?
@@OnitsTV I noticed when talking with people on Discord, there are many variables that can make you get different FPS, so while you may not get the same FPS, you could have something that brings your FPS down, so it just depends on what you have. In this case, I assume they wouldn't be OC, as most people don't OC their GPUs because they either don't know how or don't want to mess it up.
GTX 980 TI Matrix here... it crash a lot 😂
What a card the 3080 ti is
RX 5700 XT winning 3060 and 6650xt
RX 5700XT encore du jus dans le poireau GPU Légendaire
poor 3080 10gig even got cut down in graphs
Think I'll hang on to my 3080 12gb @ 1440p a while longer
el JUEGO SE BLOQUEA esta mal no puede ser que le falle a tanta gente
2080 Ti gang
AMD takes the win in this huge game. rx 6800xt beating 4070 super, rx 6800 trades blow with 4070, GRE beats 4070 ti super, 7900xt traid with 4080/super and it gets worse at 4k.. I play on 7800xt 1440p and luckily there is no need for FSR.. No wonder Nvidia is lowering prices..
Judging by power consumption, Nvidia GPUs are clearly underutilized in this game. No wonder they perform slower than usual. In HZD, for instance, their power draw was more or less standart, that is why they performed better in that game.
Firstly, Nvidia needs to enable rebar, as it brungs 5-15% perf improvement in this game. Also the game devs should optimize their product better.
For now it looks more like Starfiels situation.
@@stangamer1151 my 7800xt also is not maxed out in power like it can be in some games but that is normal. That also depends a lot on resolution, 1440p often dont max power draw in most games, 4K does more often..
@@roki977 I am not saying this game should max out any GPU TDP. But even at 4K 4070 Ti consumes just about 220W, while in HZD and many other DX12 games it draws about 260W at this res. So it is clear something is wrong here, at least with RTX 4000 GPUs.
It's so fracking sad to see the 4060 Ti perform like shite compared to the 3060 TI. A card 2.5 years (3060 ti was released on Dec 2020 while the 4060 Ti was released on May 2023) older is literally performing better than that POS.
EDIT: Frame generation is a feature that should not be relied on period. It just drives the card makers into gimping real performance in their cards. This is going to be the main reason we'll see smaller gains from the next generation cards compared to whatever gains we even got from this generation (except for the 4090 ).
23:00 nothing weird here..upscaling not give more performance cause their already limit by VRAM which majority card is on 8GB.
I think you got it a bit backwards, Upscaling reduced VRAM usage as it is rendering the image/frame at a lower resolution and the upscaling it to 4k or what every your monitors resolution it at. This allows the VRAM usage to be lower and gain more frames. So with this said yes something weird is going on, as upscaling should give more FPS rather than take.
@@jacobhurley5052 yes.. that in theory should reduce the Vram when using upscaled cause it render on low resolution.. but u need to take note that FG will require more VRam when use and other factor will effect gpu performance like memory bandwidth and bus.. which if u see none of the high end gpu have problem.
Broski really calls XeSS (Ex-Ee-Es-Es) Zes? Lmao.
My rtx 3060 ti beats the the 4060 ti thanks nvidia
No one cares for this game, right?
This game is awesome what do you mean and IMO looks way better than any game currently out their now.
The first game is probably better but the game is great.
I mean I felt the same way. But only cus I bought into the idea that the story is bland. Which maybe it is. But did you miss the beautiful open world and exhilarating robot Dino combat.
It might be a little bland and predictable. But it's fun, well made and Sooo pretty. You can't knock it too much.
@@HoneyTwee Maybe I do miss out.
how do i get dlss frame gen to work? I have a rtx4080 and the frame gen option does not work in this game for me for some reason. the frame gen option is a faded color and does not let me activate it or unactivate it, pressing on it does nothing and I've tried changing all in game settings and still nothing. is there something I have to do in the NVidia settings? also I have updated all the rtx drivers that were in the GeForce app.
Latest driver? Not exclusive full screen mode?
it says I already have latest driver and I did try changing to exclusive screen mode but still didn't give me choose to put frame gen on. but I'll try again with exclusive screen mode. thanks@@eTeknix
Is dynamic resolution scaling off?
If you haven't figured out the solution yet. Is vsync on?
thanks mate but yeah i figured it out now. I had to click on start bar and then settings, then gaming, then graphic settings, then I turned on hardware accelerated gpu scheduling. after that it gave me the option to use or not use dlss frame gen@@obtains
i have an i7 11700k and gigabyte rtx 4080 gaming oc (non super) i set this game to 1440p very high settings maxed but turn off motion blur, and without upscaling using dlaa I was getting about 95-111, and when using dlss quality I was getting anywhere between what I got without upscaling and all the way up to my fps lock of 141 fps all depending on where I was in game and what was happening on screen but most of the time more fps than what I was getting with no upscaling. with dlaa the graphics looked very good for things up close in front of the character, but I preferred dlss quality with sharpness on 3 or 4 because it seemed to look better and nicer overall, and it ran smooth and clearer it seemed for me. my i7 11700k temp can hit 61 degrees and utilize over 50% of the CPU at times and usually sits around the 57-60-degree mark, my gpu sits about 58 degrees. my 165hz 1440p monitor looks great with this game, I set the monitor to 10 bit and 144hz and I manually lock the fps in the NVidia control panel for this game to 141 fps and activate g sync, free sync and v sync.
nice. I have also standard RTX 4080, but it is paired with i9-9900KS and 32GB DDR4-4000. In 4K, very high preset with DLSS (Quality) + Frame generation ON I am getting around 92 FPS for most of the time. But the CPU is bottlenecking the 4080 where the GPU usage is not going above 85% :D
ok nice set up. my gpu doesn't bottle neck hardly any at all unless I'm using 1080p, but 1440p and 4k seem to be about on par in first person open world games. I think you would get better performance out of your gpu if you had at the very least a 10th gen intel or better or the amd equivalent maybe a 5600, 5700, 5800 etc. etc. but saying that i would prefer a i7 12700k or better i7 for these newer gpus because this will make running ray tracing effects and such smoother I would think@@EasternUNO
@@icanseeall-inthisreality I could not agree more with you! I will wait fot next gen hardware instead, because I also want to buy the new 4K 240Hz QD-OLED screen, so I want to make sure to have the best possible hardware to enjoy at least 160 FPS in modern titles
@@EasternUNO I just bought a new tcl c845 55-inch 4k hdr mini led quantum dot 144hz tv and tried it out last night with horizon forbidden west for a bit and it was much more immersive than my smaller 32 inch monitor the way the sound and picture sounds and looks. the size makes it seem more realistic and the sound sounds much more immersive. I was getting the full 117 fps that I locked the fps to; it would drop from that occasionally, I was using dlss and frame gen. I don't know if the better immersion was because of the bigger nice-looking screen or if it was just the fact it is a new product, but even the sound was better out of my surround sound system as this tv has different effects that it adds, and you can turn each of them up or down to your liking. it would be good to be able to get a full 165 fps with hdr, high bit rate colors all turned up and on. i assume you would need higher than 165hz to do it and probably a 5090 so you are right in that regard. monitors seem to have more finer details than big TVs, but TVs are very immersive especially new TVs. so maybe a new tv is in order if you haven't got a 144hz 4k hdr tv yet, this tcl tv is apparently a popular budget gaming tv it has free sync and vrr.