@@CitizenScott Nothing poor about getting a CPU that's more than enough for modern games, and will remain such for at least 5 more years. Buying a $1000 CPU just for gaming doesn't make you rich, it makes you bad with money.
My 5800X3D is approaching 2 years old now. Easily one of the best tech purchases I've ever made. There are faster chips but I'm still GPU bound in everything I play.
I dont know, its fantastic when im gaming Cyberpunk or something else, but the slow cores and uninspiring windows compatibility is making me slightly regret it. Imo I should've waited a year and went 9600x or 9700x instead, I bought the 5800x3d last winter. The 12700k is a great buy aswell if you have a mobo for it.
@@olejakobaune8033 Not sure what you mean by "uninspiring Windows compatibility". I never noticed any issues when I was on Windows and it flies on Linux. Most strenuous thing I do on it is game and the occasional video render though.
@@nipa5961 Yeah it's pretty good. I run mine at stock settings and never had temperature issues. Now im thinking about saving money to pair the new RTX 5070 with it
Been running my 14700k since launch. Undervolted and adjusted power settings to minimal but stable and stock clocks. Could not be more satisfied with this cpu.
The F SKUs seem like a useful idea conceptually until you get to pricing, and the value just never seem to be there. 16:10 seemed to be the worst, where you have to pay $1 more to get no iGPU, but even most of the time it feels like F SKUs are never discounted enough from non-F to justify losing the iGPU.
Loving the summary review videos! When we getting the next build fix? I think I have an upgrade well organized but I might not, so your advise would be awesome!
What I did is ordered a 9800x3d to arrive in january from Amazon at the msrp, and then ordered a 7600x so the system I'm building will be usable out of the box. When the new processor comes, I'll drop it into kiddo's gaming system, and then build a system with the 7600x for hubby, who doesn't do anything near the level of gaming/processing kiddo will do (he's turning 13 shortly and an avid gamer) and then I won't have to think about new computers for anyone in the family for another eight to ten years. MIGHT drop in more ram in 5 years, maybe.
So happy I got the 7950x3D for $500 in August at Microcenter. I do architectural visualization 3D renderings in Maya/Vray and with Unreal Engine along with gaming on my downtime. It's truly the best all arounder.
I just finished a 7950X3D / 4080Super build!!! The CPU might not be the best “value”, but I splurged a little…. I’m upgrading from a GTX1050/i5-8300H Laptop from a 2018 Black Friday sale 😅
In consideration of the entire budget concern, it makes sense to purchase a CPU WITH the graphics. At least you have fair graphics until you can unload another $500+ for a graphics card. Makes a lot of sense for those builders who want a system up and running without spending a good half as much additionally for just the graphics. Those $30 extra for iGraphics is worth it in my opinion.
I've been eyeing a 9900x build, productivity focus, but still waiting for the new GPUs. I wonder if the pricing is likely to go up or down while waiting though. Should I get one now if I find a good price, or just wait until the GPUs are out as it's further down the line and generally prices get lower over time?
Power outage took out my 6600k last month. Microcenter has a 12700k, motherboard and 16 gb RAM for $300, so I got that. I was very close to getting the 12900k combo with the same motherboard but 32 gigs of RAM FOR $400.
Microcenter has some good bundles for Black Friday right now. Decide if you game or if you will be doing lots of video production to decide which CPU to buy. Not sure if Paul mentions it, but the 13 and 14 gen intel parts had significant issues, with many CPU being RMA’d. Intel claims that the issues have been resolved, but it is hard to trust those generations. And do not buy a used one. AMD is hard to beat in gaming with their X3D CPU, even the 5700 x3d is a good performer for gaming. That is the older platform, but it is inexpensive and often outperforms 12900k / 13900k .
@@EdDale44135 I would love to use micro center but im in the UK :( Yeah im still on the fence about 13th & 14th Gen intel, My gut feeling is get the 9600X or 9700X im mostly gaming but with a side of photo eding every now and again
hi, i want to ask.. my current pc uses: CPU: i3 10105f GPU: RX6700 xt Ram: 2x8GB MB: Asrock H510m-HDV/M.2 and i want to upgrade my cpu to I5 11400f, is it still worth it? Or should I just upgrade to an i5 12400f? i use this pc to play AAA gaming
Yes, especially if you play 1440p or higher, the GPU will be the bottleneck. Just noticed, however, that you are talking about music production. DAWs and music production still benefit more for single core performance over multi core (though cores can help too, higher single core performance is more important), so actually the "gaming CPUs" might be better to look at for music production specifically. The CPU is also far more important to music production than regular use, gaming use, editing use, etc. So in music production, CPU and often RAM are the things to invest in.
@@mastermachetier5594 have you checked if you are cpu bottlenecked when gaming at all? 4k and VR are very gpu demanding. Your best gaming upgrades in AM4 would be huge productivity downgrades.
@@InnocentiusLacrimosa I haven't been bottle necked with the 2080 super but i am afraid of being bottle necked with a gpu upgrade. I think the best bet is to wait regardless for 5000 serious and either get lower pricer 4080 super or a newer.. then upgrade to a different platform and repurpose this as a server for productivity stuff.
@@mastermachetier5594 being occasionally bottle necked by cpu is not dangerous. I'd get the gpu that I want and then see if I want a system upgrade later.
I recently picked up an i5 12600KF that came with a GIGABYTE Z790 S WIFI motherboard, 16GB of DDR4, and a Be Quiet cooler for $200! My plan is to pair it with either a 3060 or 3060ti since I think they're the best price for performance cards available right now
I just snagged that sweet half off 13600kf for my 4k productivity and gaming build. Price to performance level is sick. Chance of failure with micorcode update is negligible.
I just picked up a 9800X3D for $439 at Micro Center with a motherboard bundle. Talk about a screamin deal! I probably didn't need to upgrade as I had a 5900X, but I was excited to move to DDR5, too!
How long do you think this part last if you use it for Production or rendering? I have ryzen 3700X and i thinK i need to change it but I do not know with what to last longer and I have B450 tomahawk max but i hate it because it has just Gen 3 ×16 pcie
For Intel 13th and 14th gen beware they had a major design flaw form the factory, used 13 and 14th gen on the market could be defective. Some brand new also could still have the defect in them, and you won’t know until it suddenly stop working. Just wanted y’all shopping to keep it in mind, at your own risks if you decide to try your luck :) I wish you to get good cpus tho
For productivity, or at least video editing and such, my understanding is that you should never get a KF version of intel. The igpu can make a massive different in the editing experience.
walked into micro center yesterday expecting just to browse when one of the associates told me a shipment of 9800X3D chips had just come in minutes ago. so now i have a pile of parts sitting next to me, and they are looking forward to being paired with a shiny new GPU that will totally, definitely, really really release in the next couple months here, right? right!?!?!?
In a comment to a similar video on another channel someone mentioned that where he lived he could buy a Ryzen 5 7500F slightly cheaper than a Ryzen R5 7600. Now this is interesting as the differences between these processors are that the 7600F doesn't have a integrated GPU and 100 MHz lower base clock and Max Boost clock at 3.7GHz and 5GHz respectively compared to 3.8GHz and 5.1GHz for the 7600. Everything else is the same. The performance difference between the 7500F and the 7600 is so small you probably can't feel it without running benchmarks, and they can be made up for by a very slight overclock which is just about certain it wont case any instability or problems. Now I don't know if it comes with a heatsink or how common they are in retail. I also saw a commenter say that where he shopped the 7500F was more expensive than the 7600, so that's also a possibility. And keep in mind that without a integrated GPU you absolutely need some kind of graphics card to get any kind of picture.
I just trust Intel.. when you buy a computer and it just runs solid for 5 to 7 years and then buy another one and it also runs for 5 to 7 years and again and again.. you just have trust that is hard to beat.. I'm 52 years old.. been using intel since my 286 in school.. and buying my first 486 at around 20 years old.. that's 32 years of solid intel.. not one chip ever died.. i've had crashes but was always microsoft i think.. but haven't crashed really in 7 years so i even trust microsoft for my OS.. my 8600k is just a beast.. just 6 cores of pure power.. and it runs at 39c idle .. 67c max load.. just did a blender test to be sure.. 100% cpu pegged... 63 to 67c... it's wicked.. i did have a cpu one time crashing at 103c but it was screw on fan that let one corner lift up... i put something heavy on the heatsink and ran it fine for weeks... then i got a 7700k that was wicked fast like almost 5ghz... but i also got the 8600k for a mining rig at the time.. when i saw 39c or less idle.. it just dropped to 700mhz at idle.. after having 103c.. i sold the 7700k.. i wanted the higher core count.. lower temps.. didn't have as fast single core but it was just amazing.. and still using it today so that's what 7 years now.. and i could use it for 5 more i bet.. but it's benchmark is only 10k.. and new ultra 7 is 59k.. but i just don't need it.. more of a want
Down here in Houston (not sure if on any other micro center) there’s a bundle of a b650 motherboard with wifi, 32 gb of g skill ram and the 7600x3d for 399 planning on getting that
My Asrock B450M Steel Legend and Ryzen 5 1600 AF died 2 days ago. I shall be getting I5 12400F and a good quality Gigabyte GA-B760M Micro ATX Mobo for 298 dollars(that includes shipping fees as well. I live in South Africa so shipping cost is kinda expensive). The 5600X and a good quality B550 mobo cost 300-350 dollars in my country so I rather take the I5 12400F.
X3D chips are not only good for gaming, they are also boosting FEA simulations or CFD (at least if you have the right programs). Will be insteresting to see the 9950X3D in those benchmarks, huge cache together with high frequency.
I think the 9950X3D will be better than even the 9800X3D. This is especially true, if the 9950X3D has Dual 3D V-Cache flipped on both CCD's for full overclocking support, which should overclock FAR higher than even the 9800X3D. 5.90 GHZ to potentially 6 GHZ all core with 200MB of 3D V-Cache and an NVIDIA RTX 5090 combined? Lord just take all of my money right away. Kidney temptation level over 9000!
@@mybeautifulcat7011 Technically, not best heater because it is only 100% efficient. For better efficiency, you want a heat pump, which can achive greater than 100% efficiency because it's not generating heat, but rather pumping heat from outside to inside.
I'd kinda like to build a Windows Server 22/25 based development server out of something mid-range and the Be Quiet! Light Base 600. And a bunch of Light Wings...
What does this even mean? 13700k is only $275 right now. New. I got an open box for $230 in July. Best bang for buck. The degradation issue is a nothing burger.
I see that the AMD 7700x is recommended at the under 300$ but not the regular 7700. Currious as to why as the 7700 is only 65watts tdp vs the 100+ of the other.. Also i wanted to the 7700 regular but its looking hard to choose it over a regular 7600 which is about 100$ cheaper for 2 less cores.
The best budget cpu is the i3-12100. For about 100$ you get a cpu and a gpu! I got this in my plex server. It's running super cool and has a 58w tdp. Additionally the igpu is used both as a graphic card and as a HW accelerator for video transcoding.
13700k is only $275 right now. New. I got an open box for $230 in July. Best bang for buck. The degradation issue is a nothing burger. Edit: Lmfao... Didn't even mention it. Silly video.
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I just picked up a 5700X3D for $179 at Micro center. Staying on AM4 for a little while longer. Such a great deal
while longer? you may live out the life span of am5. start planning for am6 if am5 isn't stretched to 2029+ years.
Tell me you're poor without telling me.
@@CitizenScott Nothing poor about getting a CPU that's more than enough for modern games, and will remain such for at least 5 more years.
Buying a $1000 CPU just for gaming doesn't make you rich, it makes you bad with money.
@@harryshuman9637 It makes you not poor.
@@CitizenScott5700x is a great cpu and more than what most gamers need. Dont be a doofus young kid
I lucked out and picked up my 9800X3D yesterday. Just started my build today. I'm pretty hyped for it.
Just got mine today.
Amazon lost or overallocated and it ain’t looking good for me to get mine soon 😢
@@notcataclysmic Micro Center just got some more if you live near one.
Currently Newegg has the 7600X cpu with a 1TB Kingston NV3 PCIE4 NVMe drive included for ~ $194...
My 5800X3D is approaching 2 years old now. Easily one of the best tech purchases I've ever made. There are faster chips but I'm still GPU bound in everything I play.
I made a mistake buying the RX7700XT with the 5800X3D. Im trying to change it soon as possible
I dont know, its fantastic when im gaming Cyberpunk or something else, but the slow cores and uninspiring windows compatibility is making me slightly regret it. Imo I should've waited a year and went 9600x or 9700x instead, I bought the 5800x3d last winter. The 12700k is a great buy aswell if you have a mobo for it.
@@olejakobaune8033 Not sure what you mean by "uninspiring Windows compatibility". I never noticed any issues when I was on Windows and it flies on Linux. Most strenuous thing I do on it is game and the occasional video render though.
5800X3D is the best CPU in history.
@@nipa5961 Yeah it's pretty good. I run mine at stock settings and never had temperature issues. Now im thinking about saving money to pair the new RTX 5070 with it
Should be mentioned that the 7600x3d at microcenter has a bundle for 450 for cpu + mobo + ram; pretty solid deal
All the bundles are about $50 USD over their lowest currently, hold for the sale.
It’s down to $400 and then $449 with a mobo upgrade
@@drewnewby idk what you’re seeing but the 7600x3d bundle at microcenter is $400
@qtnathan8648 That's not a new price, it's been $400 for a while...All the others are up $50 from just last month.
Saddly there is no microcenters in Denmark.
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is the 7600x3d going to be good for production as well? or just gaming?
Been running my 14700k since launch. Undervolted and adjusted power settings to minimal but stable and stock clocks. Could not be more satisfied with this cpu.
The F SKUs seem like a useful idea conceptually until you get to pricing, and the value just never seem to be there. 16:10 seemed to be the worst, where you have to pay $1 more to get no iGPU, but even most of the time it feels like F SKUs are never discounted enough from non-F to justify losing the iGPU.
F tier does come with a "cooler" (unless it's KF).
Though not a cooler that are really useful for anything but lining your trash bin.
I just bought a 5900X for about $229 at Newegg. I bought the 5900X and 32gb of Kingston DDR4 3600MT Ram for a total of $311 including shipping.
Yeah i ran that, great deal, you'll be able to do anything you want still....
Thumbs up for MT
Great deal!
Loving the summary review videos!
When we getting the next build fix? I think I have an upgrade well organized but I might not, so your advise would be awesome!
Best CPU for gaming AND production is 1-2 months away: the 9950x3D. Can't wait to get it for my next build. :)
What I did is ordered a 9800x3d to arrive in january from Amazon at the msrp, and then ordered a 7600x so the system I'm building will be usable out of the box. When the new processor comes, I'll drop it into kiddo's gaming system, and then build a system with the 7600x for hubby, who doesn't do anything near the level of gaming/processing kiddo will do (he's turning 13 shortly and an avid gamer) and then I won't have to think about new computers for anyone in the family for another eight to ten years. MIGHT drop in more ram in 5 years, maybe.
I have cpu amd 3900x and will buy rtx 5080 or 5090 when it come out. It will be a bottleneck to my cpu? Thanks.
Love that your content is so direct (and funny). No babble, just facts and opinions. Thanks Paul!!
Living close to a MicroCenter is like having a life cheat code.
I am so jealous of anyone who lives in Tustin, CA.
So happy I got the 7950x3D for $500 in August at Microcenter. I do architectural visualization 3D renderings in Maya/Vray and with Unreal Engine along with gaming on my downtime. It's truly the best all arounder.
I got from cex UK with 5 years warranty for £400 2 weeks ago. Love it
I just finished a 7950X3D / 4080Super build!!! The CPU might not be the best “value”, but I splurged a little…. I’m upgrading from a GTX1050/i5-8300H Laptop from a 2018 Black Friday sale 😅
Is there a reason why the 7950x3d went up so much?
@@Yiwol Demand for it.
@@Yiwol no idea but it was sub $500 6 months ago 🤷♂️
Walmart has in-store only 7800x3d for 399.99 if ur lucky enough to have a walmart that carries pc parts
Which is the best Mid range motherboard to pair with a 9800X3d?
Paul what is the most powerful graphics card to pair with a 12700kf that dosent cause a bottleneck
Im building my first pc, what's the best budget cpu to combo with rx 6800 and 32gb ram am4? 🙏🏻
In consideration of the entire budget concern, it makes sense to purchase a CPU WITH the graphics. At least you have fair graphics until you can unload another $500+ for a graphics card. Makes a lot of sense for those builders who want a system up and running without spending a good half as much additionally for just the graphics. Those $30 extra for iGraphics is worth it in my opinion.
What is the best gaming/production cpu around 350$ 3d modeling and rendering.
Just got that godlike msi & need the 9950x3d for no reason at all
damn😍
We have the same reason. Go figure...
lol how did you decide what case to put it in? Nothing is worthy.
@@danb3785 He well probably ask a lab to grow a synthetic diamond case for him probably
@@danb3785 V3000+ gave me a reason to get a extended motherboard.
What is a good CPU to Stream and Game at the same time i can't decide between the i9-14900k or 7950x3d
7950x3d
How long you think a new ecore 1 will make noise/burn in i know. Its fine otherwise.
Thanks again Paul. Should a 4K video editor target production or game CPU?
Production
@@klaustrussel Or maybe you can do both with the Ryzen 9950X3D, but then you need to wait.
My 2019 set has a AMD Ryzen 7 can I upgrade to one of these new ones with my existing mother board
I've been eyeing a 9900x build, productivity focus, but still waiting for the new GPUs. I wonder if the pricing is likely to go up or down while waiting though. Should I get one now if I find a good price, or just wait until the GPUs are out as it's further down the line and generally prices get lower over time?
Still sat here with a 6600K wondering where to begin with upgrading ahhhh
Power outage took out my 6600k last month. Microcenter has a 12700k, motherboard and 16 gb RAM for $300, so I got that. I was very close to getting the 12900k combo with the same motherboard but 32 gigs of RAM FOR $400.
@ oh no gutted at least you had an excuse to upgrade, I’m currently looking at the 14600K or 9700X but still undecided
Microcenter has some good bundles for Black Friday right now. Decide if you game or if you will be doing lots of video production to decide which CPU to buy. Not sure if Paul mentions it, but the 13 and 14 gen intel parts had significant issues, with many CPU being RMA’d. Intel claims that the issues have been resolved, but it is hard to trust those generations. And do not buy a used one.
AMD is hard to beat in gaming with their X3D CPU, even the 5700 x3d is a good performer for gaming. That is the older platform, but it is inexpensive and often outperforms 12900k / 13900k .
@@EdDale44135nah. 13th and 14th gen are great. You just need to visit the bios and set them properly.
@@EdDale44135 I would love to use micro center but im in the UK :(
Yeah im still on the fence about 13th & 14th Gen intel, My gut feeling is get the 9600X or 9700X im mostly gaming but with a side of photo eding every now and again
Which cpu should i pick for gaming and recording + editing 4k video. I pair with 4090.
7950X3D or wait for the 9950X3D to drop at CES. It’s gunna be the dominant flagship for a while
hi, i want to ask.. my current pc uses:
CPU: i3 10105f
GPU: RX6700 xt
Ram: 2x8GB
MB: Asrock H510m-HDV/M.2
and i want to upgrade my cpu to I5 11400f, is it still worth it? Or should I just upgrade to an i5 12400f? i use this pc to play AAA gaming
Paul, do you have a similar video for motherboards as well?
I got the 12900KS. Thinking of pairings it with the Battlemage B750 or B770
Production cpus are still good as gaming cpus too, right?
yes, actual gaming performance depends on the GPU
@@HellPedre I do music production and some video editing and about to do a new build. also I do some gaming too so wanting to be sure im good on both.
@@Thepaulislame any good and fast modern CPU will do you wonders then
Yes, especially if you play 1440p or higher, the GPU will be the bottleneck. Just noticed, however, that you are talking about music production. DAWs and music production still benefit more for single core performance over multi core (though cores can help too, higher single core performance is more important), so actually the "gaming CPUs" might be better to look at for music production specifically. The CPU is also far more important to music production than regular use, gaming use, editing use, etc. So in music production, CPU and often RAM are the things to invest in.
@@oldmatttv this is the answer I was looking for, thanks Matt!
Need help deciding on the 7800x3d or 9800x3d. Long term gaming rig. Coming from a 5600
Definitely 9800x3d, especially considering they're basically the same price.
they are not the same price🙈😂🤣
If I’m on am4 3950x is it worth upgrading inside of the am4 socket or just waiting to upgrade to am5 ?
You did not mention any use case.
@ vr gaming ,4K gaming music production and streaming . I play on getting a 4070 ti super or 4080 super as well to upgrade from my 2080 super
@@mastermachetier5594 have you checked if you are cpu bottlenecked when gaming at all? 4k and VR are very gpu demanding. Your best gaming upgrades in AM4 would be huge productivity downgrades.
@@InnocentiusLacrimosa I haven't been bottle necked with the 2080 super but i am afraid of being bottle necked with a gpu upgrade. I think the best bet is to wait regardless for 5000 serious and either get lower pricer 4080 super or a newer.. then upgrade to a different platform and repurpose this as a server for productivity stuff.
@@mastermachetier5594 being occasionally bottle necked by cpu is not dangerous. I'd get the gpu that I want and then see if I want a system upgrade later.
Hello fellow pc builders and gamers
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Hey buddy
What about some recommendations for the best all rounder - if you want to do some gaming and production?
I recently picked up an i5 12600KF that came with a GIGABYTE Z790 S WIFI motherboard, 16GB of DDR4, and a Be Quiet cooler for $200! My plan is to pair it with either a 3060 or 3060ti since I think they're the best price for performance cards available right now
Picked up 14900k for $400 a couple days ago new. For an all around CPU, I am happy.
I just snagged that sweet half off 13600kf for my 4k productivity and gaming build. Price to performance level is sick. Chance of failure with micorcode update is negligible.
Bought a 7600x3d 32 G GSkill Ram and Full ATX Asus Tuf Mobo for $400. 4070TI Super cost $760..lol. Charlotte Micro Center FTW!
I just picked up a 9800X3D for $439 at Micro Center with a motherboard bundle. Talk about a screamin deal! I probably didn't need to upgrade as I had a 5900X, but I was excited to move to DDR5, too!
Just got a new M4 Mac Mini with a 4k Dell 27" monitor. This video in 4k is great!!!!
How long do you think this part last if you use it for Production or rendering? I have ryzen 3700X and i thinK i need to change it but I do not know with what to last longer and I have B450 tomahawk max but i hate it because it has just Gen 3 ×16 pcie
The 5700X is a great chip i have it and at that price it's a bargain £132 here in the UK as well 60% off right now!
For Intel 13th and 14th gen beware they had a major design flaw form the factory, used 13 and 14th gen on the market could be defective. Some brand new also could still have the defect in them, and you won’t know until it suddenly stop working. Just wanted y’all shopping to keep it in mind, at your own risks if you decide to try your luck :) I wish you to get good cpus tho
For productivity, or at least video editing and such, my understanding is that you should never get a KF version of intel. The igpu can make a massive different in the editing experience.
Would you choose the 5700x for that $130 price over a 5700x3D?
If you're building new, go x3d. If you're upgrading go x3d.
If you want to play games get the X3D.
Yup went with the 5700x3d. Was delivered & installed today!
@@RodimusPrime29 🎉 congrats! I'm jealous
walked into micro center yesterday expecting just to browse when one of the associates told me a shipment of 9800X3D chips had just come in minutes ago. so now i have a pile of parts sitting next to me, and they are looking forward to being paired with a shiny new GPU that will totally, definitely, really really release in the next couple months here, right? right!?!?!?
Amazon is not selling the 9950X for a $100 markup. Antonline is!
Why no 7500f, it's perfect for 1440p
Agreed! 7500F is only 142€ in my area. Best bang for buck!
It's not available everywhere in the world though.
Have the 2nd 14th gen from Intel in 9months. Now with the Microcode 0x129 BIOS update. Hopefully the Games keep runing.
It's a hardware issue. Going to degrade over time
Cannot be understated how much of a deal the 13600kf is for sub 200 bucks. Couldn’t pass it up wish it went on sale.
I was going to get the 13600k but decided on the 12600k months before the microcode even happened
You completely ignored the APUs for the "production" machines. Especially for the cheaper solutions, since it saves you the price from a GPU.
Thank you, Paul! ♥
As always, great video Paul 👍
How come the 7500F isn't mentioned?
In a comment to a similar video on another channel someone mentioned that where he lived he could buy a Ryzen 5 7500F slightly cheaper than a Ryzen R5 7600. Now this is interesting as the differences between these processors are that the 7600F doesn't have a integrated GPU and 100 MHz lower base clock and Max Boost clock at 3.7GHz and 5GHz respectively compared to 3.8GHz and 5.1GHz for the 7600. Everything else is the same. The performance difference between the 7500F and the 7600 is so small you probably can't feel it without running benchmarks, and they can be made up for by a very slight overclock which is just about certain it wont case any instability or problems. Now I don't know if it comes with a heatsink or how common they are in retail. I also saw a commenter say that where he shopped the 7500F was more expensive than the 7600, so that's also a possibility. And keep in mind that without a integrated GPU you absolutely need some kind of graphics card to get any kind of picture.
I just trust Intel.. when you buy a computer and it just runs solid for 5 to 7 years and then buy another one and it also runs for 5 to 7 years and again and again.. you just have trust that is hard to beat.. I'm 52 years old.. been using intel since my 286 in school.. and buying my first 486 at around 20 years old.. that's 32 years of solid intel.. not one chip ever died.. i've had crashes but was always microsoft i think.. but haven't crashed really in 7 years so i even trust microsoft for my OS.. my 8600k is just a beast.. just 6 cores of pure power.. and it runs at 39c idle .. 67c max load.. just did a blender test to be sure.. 100% cpu pegged... 63 to 67c... it's wicked.. i did have a cpu one time crashing at 103c but it was screw on fan that let one corner lift up... i put something heavy on the heatsink and ran it fine for weeks... then i got a 7700k that was wicked fast like almost 5ghz... but i also got the 8600k for a mining rig at the time.. when i saw 39c or less idle.. it just dropped to 700mhz at idle.. after having 103c.. i sold the 7700k.. i wanted the higher core count.. lower temps.. didn't have as fast single core but it was just amazing.. and still using it today so that's what 7 years now.. and i could use it for 5 more i bet.. but it's benchmark is only 10k.. and new ultra 7 is 59k.. but i just don't need it.. more of a want
What amazes me is how more expensive most of these CPU's are in Europe.
Down here in Houston (not sure if on any other micro center) there’s a bundle of a b650 motherboard with wifi, 32 gb of g skill ram and the 7600x3d for 399 planning on getting that
Great overview
Waiting on my9800X3D, which has been lost in the Canada Post strike. I’m told it is scheduled to arrive tomorrow………….
No bios microcode update can fix a physical flaw in the cpu so no disagree on ever recomending them
My Asrock B450M Steel Legend and Ryzen 5 1600 AF died 2 days ago. I shall be getting I5 12400F and a good quality Gigabyte GA-B760M Micro ATX Mobo for 298 dollars(that includes shipping fees as well. I live in South Africa so shipping cost is kinda expensive). The 5600X and a good quality B550 mobo cost 300-350 dollars in my country so I rather take the I5 12400F.
Why are you recommending 13 14gen? It literally melt itself
The 5700X3D is still perfect!
I got a ryzen 5 5600x and it’s working really well still
X3D chips are not only good for gaming, they are also boosting FEA simulations or CFD (at least if you have the right programs).
Will be insteresting to see the 9950X3D in those benchmarks, huge cache together with high frequency.
I think the 9950X3D will be better than even the 9800X3D. This is especially true, if the 9950X3D has Dual 3D V-Cache flipped on both CCD's for full overclocking support, which should overclock FAR higher than even the 9800X3D.
5.90 GHZ to potentially 6 GHZ all core with 200MB of 3D V-Cache and an NVIDIA RTX 5090 combined? Lord just take all of my money right away. Kidney temptation level over 9000!
@@iLegionaire3755 The 9950X goes up to 5.7Ghz, so I don't expect the 9950X3D go upto 5.9, probably more in the 5.5-5.7 range
Love these videos
Best gaming: 9800X3D
Best productivity: 9950X
Best heater: 14900KS
Unfortunately the heater may fail after only a couple of years, so... best paper weight?
@@abaj006 Little behind are you?
The degradation issue is fixed, and overblown.
They also have a 5 year warranty.
@@DingleBerryschnapps So you're saying my heater is more reliable now?
Best heater ? 😂😂😂
@@mybeautifulcat7011 Technically, not best heater because it is only 100% efficient. For better efficiency, you want a heat pump, which can achive greater than 100% efficiency because it's not generating heat, but rather pumping heat from outside to inside.
excellent!
how come no one mentions the ryzen 7 9700x? It seems an upgrade to the 7700x
Well on Amazon the 9700x is $317 and the 7700X is $263 and the 9700x. So that's like also 20% cost 5% more speed.
Eh, just upgraded to a R9 5900X for less than $300. I think I'm good. It does everything I want and then some.
I'd kinda like to build a Windows Server 22/25 based development server out of something mid-range and the Be Quiet! Light Base 600. And a bunch of Light Wings...
Always the best, Paul.
Wow, to think I bought an i7 7900k for 279.00 thinking it was a bargain at the time.
12400F was under $100 a few months ago, may be again soon.
Can you really trust Intel 13 and 14 gen
doubtful
great video paul, i hope when you are on amazon in the video is not your address, so you dident leak.
Just over here with my i7 13700k
same
What does this even mean?
13700k is only $275 right now. New.
I got an open box for $230 in July.
Best bang for buck. The degradation issue is a nothing burger.
@DingleBerryschnapps it means what its meant to supposed to mean, the meaning is the mean to what is meant to be meant and mean.
@@usleadershipareliars Don't be mean.
I see that the AMD 7700x is recommended at the under 300$ but not the regular 7700. Currious as to why as the 7700 is only 65watts tdp vs the 100+ of the other..
Also i wanted to the 7700 regular but its looking hard to choose it over a regular 7600 which is about 100$ cheaper for 2 less cores.
All the X processors seem to use more power, I think it has to do with them being factory overclocked or something
@ true and on paper the performance difference appears to be marginal to me. at least for the 7700 and 7700x.
7700 for 220€ is a great value CPU imho.
The best budget cpu is the i3-12100. For about 100$ you get a cpu and a gpu!
I got this in my plex server. It's running super cool and has a 58w tdp. Additionally the igpu is used both as a graphic card and as a HW accelerator for video transcoding.
UserBenchmark has left the chat.
I legit cackled
Has UB ever been in the chat?
My wallet is lucky I don't live near a microcenter
Would have been hella funny to just swipe them off the table and pop down the 9800X3D and end the video all in 10 seconds.
No Intel Core Ultras mentioned. Auch.
just bought a 2 5600x to day for my kids build
The 5700x3d is such an insane deal
What if you had a new segment called "Paul's Screamin' Deals!"
The 12700k is $187 on newegg
If you only went for gaming builds there'd be no need for that stack of Intel boxes.
How is this "There is only one good CPU and you can't buy it because it's out of stock"..
no we are told theres a final FINAL microcode that will fix the real problem this time for sure ;)
13700k is only $275 right now. New.
I got an open box for $230 in July.
Best bang for buck. The degradation issue is a nothing burger.
Edit:
Lmfao... Didn't even mention it. Silly video.
2:30 You just made the top of UserBenchmark’s DeathNote list 😱
Excellent 😅
Nice to see team blue getting beaten
Bitten
Cool !