When Ange came in, Spurs had just finished 8th. The squad was a mess. They lost Harry Kane, completely changed the playing style and Ange moved them up to 5th. He’s massively overhauled the squad, and is changing the culture behind the scenes as well if you listen to interviews with back room staff. Spurs have wasted a lot of money on poor transfers the last few years, but now there’s much better alignment between Ange and the new leaders at the club (Lange and Munn). With the money from the new stadium going to more intelligent transfers, I think Spurs have bright years ahead under Ange.
I've got an intuition that they'll have a polar opposite season to last season where they started well but tanked post Xmas to this time not having a good first half of the season but finishing much better in the second half of the season January onwards. They ended last season with quite a bit of a negative feeling due to how poorly they ended the season. I think this season they'll be a team that grows into the season & sees it out in a much better shape
Buying young players at the start of the build is the right approach... Add "ready made, right now" players as that younger generation is reaching maturity... Tottenham are age profiling the right way 👍
I know what he's saying about Liverpool signing Van Dijk and Alisson. Big money for top players. But at the time they were both huge risks. LFC's data said they could step up but remember. Van Dijk had not played for a top team or at Champions League level. And Alisson had one full season of playing in Europe at Roma before LFC paid huge money for him. Maguire and Kepa were similar position big money signings at the time and didnt work out. So its always a risk.
@@cyn1clcynide Basically what the squad quality is like. The obsession with being 10th is a bit ridiculous. Johnson puts his head near the overhead kick and Solanke's hand doesn't touch the ball against Ipswich and spurs are 3rd
I was going to listen to this, but now that I'm on a Tottenham high I dont want to hear any potential negativity. Highest ceiling and lowest floor of any team, that's all there is to it
Oh Jack you're spot on, that Liverpool were transformed by identifying the keeper and CB as priority positions to strengthen and duly paid £140m for van Dijk and Alisson but they were able to do that bc they held out for months to get the bedt price for Coutinho, before before duly getting ... £140m from Barca. Spurs got £100m for Kane and Levy did what he ajways does, he focused on buying with resale profit in mind, Gray and Bergvall plus a dud keeper!
Spurs must be better by now. I am not expecting them to win the league but we could try to win Carabao,FA cup or Europa league. We should not have any problem beating the bottom half teams but that's not the case
Ange is worth giving time. He will turn it around and if not it's still better then watching anything Spurs post Poch. I can't see why they wouldn't give him time to build the team. It's not like Spurs are expected to win anything soon... or ever.
Football is an art, not a science. How you get your shot as well as how you concede one is just as important as how many you get and concede. Not every teams 2 minutes of possession is the same - some are more useful than others etcetra etcetra. People need to understand this.
Two problems in our Spurs team: experience and mentality. They’re not performing consistently; better against big teams than small, which suggests a lack of concentration in some games and an unwillingness to run. This team needs more experience either through time or incoming transfers. Same potentially with mentality. Only then will Angeball work properly. When they show intensity every game and know it well enough to problem solve for themselves.
I agree completely with the point about players changing on their own fruition. Maybe Ange is really tyrannical about positioning like Pep but I don't see that, if Spurs took the tempo down while in the middle of the park (less deep runs from the midfield) then I really don't think they give up chances that have seen them lose games this season.
xG, xA, xGA, etc are great (we all love stats right?) but you can't forget xSpursy.. it's like dark matter; scientists haven't proved it exists yet, but the absence of other things (points on the board in this case) is highly suggestive.
I think Ange missed a trick over the summer not signing ‘big lad’ wing backs, or at least players with the versatility to play at both centre back, fullback and as a deep lying midfielder. It worked a treat against City last year when he played Van de Ven at left back. Lloyd Kelly would have been perfect for this team, for example
Don't think it was Ange's decision tbh. Looks like he doesn't have much input in the transfers compared to his previous jobs. For example at Celtic he was without a director of football or technical director and was just having to come up with players to buy by himself, and he supplied the likes of Daizen Maeda, Reo Hatate, Kyogo Furuhashi who are all still first team players who were bought for a combined £7m roughly. He also brought in in his first window the likes of Cameron Carter-Vickers, the most important player at the club still, Jota, who was sold for a club record equaling fee, and Matt O'Riley who was then sold and broke that fee further. That was all inside his first 6/7 months at the club.
People really underestimate the mess Ange walked into. An ageing and very very average squad and team that was being kept vaguely competitive by Harry Kane who promptly left. We were 8th and looked like we could keep heading downwards.
Top scorers in the league Conceded the same amount of goals as Chelsea & City Knocked City out of the League Cup Won 3 out of 4 Europa League matches 3 points off third place 2 set-piece goals conceded all season I don't think things are as bad as what people think.
Seems unlikely Ange-ball will see in the New Year. So, once again we spurs fans will have a new manager who needs to revamp the entire squad, again. Lucky us. Until further notice it seems that pre-season is the best time to be a Spurs fan
58 games is absolutely no time at all in football and that's all Ange has had with what is now one of the youngest and newly assembled squads in the league. I'm reserving my judgement until we've had at least 100 games with the coach and had a few summers to develop the squad. All the signs are there that we can be a great team, but there's still holes in the squad which are disrupting our seasons under Ange.
If it wasn't for the numerous poor decisions the board havd made , we would definitely be further along. It's not entirely their fault but the footballing decisions over the years have been dreadful.
Hugo also stayed in the middle of the goal on that Bruno Fernande's penalty (who never shoots pens centrally). So this statement from Hugo was not nice either. Why did you run towards Trippier on that own goal, making the angle small for him??!?!? Hugo we could make hundred claims about your idiotic actions.
All these stats are pointless. The trouble is you cant predict football, thats why the so called super computer never ever gets the final league positions right. You cant predict these things by using stats. Personally i think spurs will finish eighth, because since the end of last season the results have been ridiculously inconsistent.
@@corroded lmaooooooooo. Ben white was a 23 year old Center back with one year experience in the premier league when we signed him He had been playing in the championship before then Stop lying mate
@@anjolatope-babalola2338 50m defenders are 'potential' now rofl, behave. He played 3200 minutes over 36 appearances for a team that finished in the top half of the table. White is the 10th most expensive Premier League defender, ever. You don't sign players like that because you think they might be good. You know they are good and White was a known quality. T.E.S.S, great argument mate. Well reasoned.
I always laugh at Spurs fans for using the mangers as scapegoate but not the players, the players should have a brain to realise they need to be a bit more cautious and sit back to ride the storm.
It’s the perfect comparison because as they said in the video, Tottenham were better than Liverpool at the time they mentioned - 2017. Why did Liverpool go on and win the league and Spurs go backwards and win nothing?
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Well, this aged well.
Man City 0-4 Tottenham
The analysis actually explains why it's not a surprise that Spurs battered City. They play every game like they're 2-0 down at a final
i just watch this videos mostly because of the host i swear. he is absolutely hilarious
Yeah he's very funny.
he is a very good host
Don't tell him that or he'll get funnier!
I guess we've found Joe's burner account then
@@betselotaderaw83 very hilarious 😂
When Ange came in, Spurs had just finished 8th. The squad was a mess. They lost Harry Kane, completely changed the playing style and Ange moved them up to 5th. He’s massively overhauled the squad, and is changing the culture behind the scenes as well if you listen to interviews with back room staff. Spurs have wasted a lot of money on poor transfers the last few years, but now there’s much better alignment between Ange and the new leaders at the club (Lange and Munn). With the money from the new stadium going to more intelligent transfers, I think Spurs have bright years ahead under Ange.
Well well how is video aged good!
I've got an intuition that they'll have a polar opposite season to last season where they started well but tanked post Xmas to this time not having a good first half of the season but finishing much better in the second half of the season January onwards. They ended last season with quite a bit of a negative feeling due to how poorly they ended the season. I think this season they'll be a team that grows into the season & sees it out in a much better shape
4-0 away at city might be a step in the right direction
Loss vs fulham coming up
Buying young players at the start of the build is the right approach... Add "ready made, right now" players as that younger generation is reaching maturity... Tottenham are age profiling the right way 👍
Good morning! Ah, JJ has returned, the channel is back!
This is by far my favourite football show...I love how you guys break things up to finer details. Keep up..I'm disappointed this vid is only 27min
If you want a longer version you should listen to the podcast. It’s a bit more informal
Bizarre spursy stat alert: Spurs have scored one more goal than man city, and conceded the same amount.
Different now, fair play!
Great timing lads
Oh this aged bizarrely...
I know what he's saying about Liverpool signing Van Dijk and Alisson. Big money for top players. But at the time they were both huge risks. LFC's data said they could step up but remember. Van Dijk had not played for a top team or at Champions League level. And Alisson had one full season of playing in Europe at Roma before LFC paid huge money for him. Maguire and Kepa were similar position big money signings at the time and didnt work out. So its always a risk.
I'm sorry but comparing Van Dijk to Maguire is just hilarious.
@Gooner184 it was a wild time wasn't it
Wow JJ's back and they got Dr. Octopus & Ruben Amorim
🤣
I think Spurs will end up being 5-6th come end of this season.
Pretty much par for the course
@@cyn1clcynide Basically what the squad quality is like. The obsession with being 10th is a bit ridiculous. Johnson puts his head near the overhead kick and Solanke's hand doesn't touch the ball against Ipswich and spurs are 3rd
Hope you’re right. Can’t see it at this point.
@@ryuhayabaker and if your aunty had tires she'd be a bicycle. every team has these "if moments"
I was going to listen to this, but now that I'm on a Tottenham high I dont want to hear any potential negativity. Highest ceiling and lowest floor of any team, that's all there is to it
Oh Jack you're spot on, that Liverpool were transformed by identifying the keeper and CB as priority positions to strengthen and duly paid £140m for van Dijk and Alisson but they were able to do that bc they held out for months to get the bedt price for Coutinho, before before duly getting ... £140m from Barca. Spurs got £100m for Kane and Levy did what he ajways does, he focused on buying with resale profit in mind, Gray and Bergvall plus a dud keeper!
Hearing that in 16-17 Spurs and Liverpool were at the same level sounds warm and yet stings
I'm so glad these are back
This aged fantastically
Spurs must be better by now. I am not expecting them to win the league but we could try to win Carabao,FA cup or Europa league. We should not have any problem beating the bottom half teams but that's not the case
Ange is worth giving time. He will turn it around and if not it's still better then watching anything Spurs post Poch. I can't see why they wouldn't give him time to build the team. It's not like Spurs are expected to win anything soon... or ever.
Johan Cruyff looking ready to crawl out of that photo and devour Jack's soul
Football is an art, not a science. How you get your shot as well as how you concede one is just as important as how many you get and concede. Not every teams 2 minutes of possession is the same - some are more useful than others etcetra etcetra. People need to understand this.
no Jon Mackenzie, no watch
Watching this after Spurs have spanked Man City 4-0
Stop the show 1 minutes 30 seconds in is wild 😂
wow you are easily impressed
Two problems in our Spurs team: experience and mentality.
They’re not performing consistently; better against big teams than small, which suggests a lack of concentration in some games and an unwillingness to run.
This team needs more experience either through time or incoming transfers. Same potentially with mentality.
Only then will Angeball work properly. When they show intensity every game and know it well enough to problem solve for themselves.
Spurs 4 - City 0
I agree completely with the point about players changing on their own fruition. Maybe Ange is really tyrannical about positioning like Pep but I don't see that, if Spurs took the tempo down while in the middle of the park (less deep runs from the midfield) then I really don't think they give up chances that have seen them lose games this season.
Don’t worry Tottenham fans Postecoglou said he always wins trophies in his second season 😂
As a spurs fan I love this channel
6th on the table now, bound to lose to a relegation side in the near future
Well they’re better now.
Maybe ask Pep?
xG, xA, xGA, etc are great (we all love stats right?) but you can't forget xSpursy.. it's like dark matter; scientists haven't proved it exists yet, but the absence of other things (points on the board in this case) is highly suggestive.
I think Ange missed a trick over the summer not signing ‘big lad’ wing backs, or at least players with the versatility to play at both centre back, fullback and as a deep lying midfielder. It worked a treat against City last year when he played Van de Ven at left back. Lloyd Kelly would have been perfect for this team, for example
Don't think it was Ange's decision tbh. Looks like he doesn't have much input in the transfers compared to his previous jobs. For example at Celtic he was without a director of football or technical director and was just having to come up with players to buy by himself, and he supplied the likes of Daizen Maeda, Reo Hatate, Kyogo Furuhashi who are all still first team players who were bought for a combined £7m roughly. He also brought in in his first window the likes of Cameron Carter-Vickers, the most important player at the club still, Jota, who was sold for a club record equaling fee, and Matt O'Riley who was then sold and broke that fee further. That was all inside his first 6/7 months at the club.
People really underestimate the mess Ange walked into. An ageing and very very average squad and team that was being kept vaguely competitive by Harry Kane who promptly left. We were 8th and looked like we could keep heading downwards.
This title has aged... poorly
Aged like a fine wine this
Top scorers in the league
Conceded the same amount of goals as Chelsea & City
Knocked City out of the League Cup
Won 3 out of 4 Europa League matches
3 points off third place
2 set-piece goals conceded all season
I don't think things are as bad as what people think.
Exactly where we should be.
Its the history of the Tottenham
well
Where’s Jonathan Mckenzie
somewhere else
Seems unlikely Ange-ball will see in the New Year. So, once again we spurs fans will have a new manager who needs to revamp the entire squad, again. Lucky us. Until further notice it seems that pre-season is the best time to be a Spurs fan
Jack, blink twice if you are in danger.
6:30 did they just call Mourinho a Conte?
58 games is absolutely no time at all in football and that's all Ange has had with what is now one of the youngest and newly assembled squads in the league.
I'm reserving my judgement until we've had at least 100 games with the coach and had a few summers to develop the squad.
All the signs are there that we can be a great team, but there's still holes in the squad which are disrupting our seasons under Ange.
If it wasn't for the numerous poor decisions the board havd made , we would definitely be further along. It's not entirely their fault but the footballing decisions over the years have been dreadful.
I think that net spend is up to 2021, not including 2024
Can someone pls tell JPB to stop writing unnecessary cickbait articles on the Athletic.
My weekly medicine, thanks!
Hugo also stayed in the middle of the goal on that Bruno Fernande's penalty (who never shoots pens centrally). So this statement from Hugo was not nice either. Why did you run towards Trippier on that own goal, making the angle small for him??!?!? Hugo we could make hundred claims about your idiotic actions.
All these stats are pointless. The trouble is you cant predict football, thats why the so called super computer never ever gets the final league positions right. You cant predict these things by using stats. Personally i think spurs will finish eighth, because since the end of last season the results have been ridiculously inconsistent.
Underlying FC
Cough cough cough cough I cough four times…
4:12 damn i didn’t know leicester had a team of toddlers 😂
New guys are way too serious, it’s like a lecture
Amorim, that you? 👆
20:40 we bought ben white at 23, thats potential mate
My ears pricked up at that point too 😂
Ben White was an established PL quality defender, and went for 50 million. Hardly potential.
@@corroded lmaooooooooo. Ben white was a 23 year old Center back with one year experience in the premier league when we signed him
He had been playing in the championship before then
Stop lying mate
@@corroded wrong
@@anjolatope-babalola2338 50m defenders are 'potential' now rofl, behave. He played 3200 minutes over 36 appearances for a team that finished in the top half of the table.
White is the 10th most expensive Premier League defender, ever. You don't sign players like that because you think they might be good. You know they are good and White was a known quality.
T.E.S.S, great argument mate. Well reasoned.
They are better.
Ben white is a bad 1v1 defender, Timber is scary to go up agasint, but white, nope
hahahah
Could be worse. They could be United
Jon MacKenzie was stolen by the haunted Johan Cruyff.
Jack is next.
Casios are for winners
Its Spurs.
I don’t care about Spurs 😭
lads its tottenham
a good point, well made
I always laugh at Spurs fans for using the mangers as scapegoate but not the players, the players should have a brain to realise they need to be a bit more cautious and sit back to ride the storm.
tottenham is a garbage club. kane and son wasted their careers there. good thing bale and modric got out early
Mate..I watch Andrew Tate
No, they shouldn't because they're Spurs.
Please only invite people onto the show who don't speak like every other football pundit. These new guys suck
They had their honeymoon season in his 1st season and now can't improve. Just like ten hag at united and probably the same for slot at Liverpool
spurs fans comparing themselves with Liverpool is some of the best crack on the street
It’s the perfect comparison because as they said in the video, Tottenham were better than Liverpool at the time they mentioned - 2017. Why did Liverpool go on and win the league and Spurs go backwards and win nothing?
No, should be worse. I guess. I don't know why you keep asking me random questions like I know the answer.
Good video. I didn't mind the other guys in this one, they realised they weren't the stars and stayed in their place!
The league table never lies dummy. You are what your record says you are