Nice to see you get around to this episode. I will leave the same comment I had for the Patreon episode itself here: "While I entirely agree with November's criticism and I think its extremely succinctly put, as far as I can tell there were people convicted of participating in and aiding torture at Abu Ghraib who did actually express remorse. You could definitely argue about how genuine this was, some like Sabrina Harman seem to have basically just gone "this was bad because it hurt American imperialism and invigorated the opposition against us", others like Jeremy Sivits gave interviews expressing seemingly genuine remorse and testified against others who had engaged in torture. Obviously though this movie is a WAY more romanticised and "noble" depiction compared to any regrets anyone showed in real life. There were also so many people who got out of it scott free, or were COMPLETELY unrepentant about their crimes. Anyhow fantastic episode all of you, I was hoping you'd get around to this movie at some point after hearing November talk about it before." My view on the movie broadly holds up, but I should probably rewatch it when and if I have time.
"Double-reverse fisheye" might not be accurate, but it captures the feeling of the shot for sure. I think it's just a fisheye mapped flat into an extra wide ratio.
John Abu Ghraib made me laugh out loud. And I'm wearing headphones while I watch so my neighbors probably think I'm becoming The Joker (and I am but this video is not why).
I think this was the episode where I realized I might just suck at picking up symbolism and subtext. Like, when they were talking about how Oscar Isaac's spare, meticulously kept bedroom is a sign of how the character feels like he shouldn't have been let out of prison early (since that's how beds are kept in prison), and that he belongs back in prison, I just...never picked that up when I saw the film. Like, it's not that it's an out-there opinion; it makes sense, and that's probably what Paul intended; I just never picked it up that way - I just thought the main character was weird. Is this a me thing?
November missed that Abu Graib was an abandoned Iraqi prison that already had a history as a torture center under Saddam Hussein, so for the Iraqis it had this double-whammy signficance.
Nice to see you get around to this episode. I will leave the same comment I had for the Patreon episode itself here:
"While I entirely agree with November's criticism and I think its extremely succinctly put, as far as I can tell there were people convicted of participating in and aiding torture at Abu Ghraib who did actually express remorse. You could definitely argue about how genuine this was, some like Sabrina Harman seem to have basically just gone "this was bad because it hurt American imperialism and invigorated the opposition against us", others like Jeremy Sivits gave interviews expressing seemingly genuine remorse and testified against others who had engaged in torture. Obviously though this movie is a WAY more romanticised and "noble" depiction compared to any regrets anyone showed in real life. There were also so many people who got out of it scott free, or were COMPLETELY unrepentant about their crimes.
Anyhow fantastic episode all of you, I was hoping you'd get around to this movie at some point after hearing November talk about it before."
My view on the movie broadly holds up, but I should probably rewatch it when and if I have time.
"Double-reverse fisheye" might not be accurate, but it captures the feeling of the shot for sure. I think it's just a fisheye mapped flat into an extra wide ratio.
It reminds me a lot of when you're looking at VR input on a flat screen, just without the second lens, so you're probably right
John Abu Ghraib made me laugh out loud. And I'm wearing headphones while I watch so my neighbors probably think I'm becoming The Joker (and I am but this video is not why).
I think this was the episode where I realized I might just suck at picking up symbolism and subtext. Like, when they were talking about how Oscar Isaac's spare, meticulously kept bedroom is a sign of how the character feels like he shouldn't have been let out of prison early (since that's how beds are kept in prison), and that he belongs back in prison, I just...never picked that up when I saw the film. Like, it's not that it's an out-there opinion; it makes sense, and that's probably what Paul intended; I just never picked it up that way - I just thought the main character was weird.
Is this a me thing?
I mean critical analysis is a skill, it's something that can be learned. This podcast will probably help in that regard over time.
2:24 "nu metal", not "new metal" btw.
it's a subgenre of metal.
when you start making videos of robbery season, will you replace the graphic with the new one?
November missed that Abu Graib was an abandoned Iraqi prison that already had a history as a torture center under Saddam Hussein, so for the Iraqis it had this double-whammy signficance.