Adventure. My bike is a folding full sized hard tail mountain bike with 27.5 wheels, 1.5 wide tires, 3x9 gears, and a modest air fork. Change model 809
Recently I took an "adventure gravel bike" with 2.1" MTB tires to a race. The only guy who was quicker races in the CX world cup. On really rough terrain and in corners he struggled more than I did, but on climbs it was the other way around.
Use an older CX bike that goes up to 40mm rear, 42-45mm front for fast - smoother gravel and short road rides/ errands.. Looking for an another frame for wider tires, works with modern parts, no toe overlap with wider tires, travel, and comfort on long rides .
Still loving my aluminium Topstone as a bit of a do it all gravel bike. Super comfortable and almost 5 years old. It's done gravel rides like King Alfred's Way, South Downs Double, club runs, some time trials and the Pan Celtic Race.
I have a Topstone and a Diverge. Both have dropper posts, and hydraulic disc brakes. I currently have 30mm Pirelli P zeros on the Topstone and Pirelli Cinturato M on the Diverge. Each bike has a second wheel set with the opposite tires, all tubeless. Point is, the gravel bikes can do it all. I have an outstanding Andante hard tail mtb that is a great ride, but if I stick to green and blue trails, I find it fun to ride them on a gravel bike. That’s the main reason I have droppers on them. Nuff said 😅🚴🏼♀️👍🏼
Blah blah marketing. I slammed the stem on my "adventure" bike and put some fast wheels and tyres on it for hardpack gravel. Now it's a race bike 🤷🏻♂️
agreed.... dIverge with 1x setup (44T chainring and GX cassette)... wheelset 1: Roval C38 with road tyres wheelset 2: Roval Terra with 44mm gravel tyres
Hahahah. I fell into watching too much youtube too. I have been working on a -7% 1.5 mile KOM. Aeroad at 2:00 flat, 13.6 lb SuperSix hi mod at 2:01, TI Gravel GR300 on Deep Dish Reynolds Wheels2:03. You are the biggest factor in aero not your bike!
I really like the gen3 checkpoints but wish it came with 2x grx. I live in the flatest of flat here in deep south texas, so I have no need for 1x with super easy gearing.
Actually 2x has lower gears. You could get a 1x and throw on a 11-38 Cassette with a 44 Chainring or so. Just get the bike you like and then change the gearing to the one you need
Both the Checkpoint and Checkmate have relatively long reaches and low stack heights. The stack on the Checkpoint is lower than other bikes in the "adventure" class.
To be honest, far too many bikes stack figures are too low, even for supposed Endurance bikes.......I don't know how they get this so wrong. I looked at both the Domane, and Checkpoint, and the Domane is a better fit for adventure riding, than the Checkpoint.....
@@Andy_ATB I recently shopped for a new adventure gravel bike and settled on the Giant Revolt Advanced because of it's stack and reach numbers compared to the competition.
I'd like to buy the trek checkpoint but i'd like to know if the 50 mm tires fit comfortably on that frame, in your video did you use the 50 or the 45 mm? thank you very much
And it can fit tires that will be faster for some courses. Really surprising that trek did this considering they apparently had a push for fewer models.
Except you do if that's what you want. if you like to race you have the option to get a race focused bike, so what? Are you benefiting from all it's tech as a weekend warrior? not really.. are you finishing top 10 anywhere? no... but you aren't competing for the Sensible Cup either so just enjoy your life and do what you want.
There's Adventure, Race, Allround and Monster...and I can't wait for people to realize that category equals purpose. People putting too much diffent meanings into "gravel".
the adventure bike does exist? well it does... and is not a gravel bike and not a trek is any bike that you could turn into bigger gears and you dare to put on heavy loads of packing ... a race bike in any cycling discipline is the most state of the art light bike you can have, or afford BUT then you can go trek and buy one of those bad boys we are N+1 to have ... just because.
@YounanPhoto yes you can apply the principles to other bikes. But I can bet this was not about the channel wanting to do another video on a topic discussed to death in recent years. This was surely Trek approaching them wanting to do a paid advertising for their two gravelbikes and the channel creating content around that. I'm pretty tired of that spoonfeeding.
Adventure or race - which do you prefer?
Orbea Terra 50/50 :D
Adventure
Adventure. My bike is a folding full sized hard tail mountain bike with 27.5 wheels, 1.5 wide tires, 3x9 gears, and a modest air fork.
Change model 809
Well said.😊
Recently I took an "adventure gravel bike" with 2.1" MTB tires to a race. The only guy who was quicker races in the CX world cup. On really rough terrain and in corners he struggled more than I did, but on climbs it was the other way around.
Just what we needed most: one more category of bikes to boost (?) sales.
Now I can't wait for the release of folding time-trial gravel tandems
Use an older CX bike that goes up to 40mm rear, 42-45mm front for fast - smoother gravel and short road rides/ errands.. Looking for an another frame for wider tires, works with modern parts, no toe overlap with wider tires, travel, and comfort on long rides .
Still loving my aluminium Topstone as a bit of a do it all gravel bike. Super comfortable and almost 5 years old. It's done gravel rides like King Alfred's Way, South Downs Double, club runs, some time trials and the Pan Celtic Race.
Great to see Jack again, more video's with him please🎉
THE FEATHER LIGHT WEIGHT SCENE AT 4:55 IS AWESOME!!!
I have a Topstone and a Diverge. Both have dropper posts, and hydraulic disc brakes. I currently have 30mm Pirelli P zeros on the Topstone and Pirelli Cinturato M on the Diverge. Each bike has a second wheel set with the opposite tires, all tubeless. Point is, the gravel bikes can do it all. I have an outstanding Andante hard tail mtb that is a great ride, but if I stick to green and blue trails, I find it fun to ride them on a gravel bike. That’s the main reason I have droppers on them. Nuff said 😅🚴🏼♀️👍🏼
The stem is the key, with a regular stem you can change from adventure to race easily.
Blah blah marketing. I slammed the stem on my "adventure" bike and put some fast wheels and tyres on it for hardpack gravel. Now it's a race bike 🤷🏻♂️
Same - bought a Checkpoint, switched out handle bars, rims and rubber, and seat to match a Checkmate. Now I have a race bike without the cost.
agreed.... dIverge with 1x setup (44T chainring and GX cassette)... wheelset 1: Roval C38 with road tyres
wheelset 2: Roval Terra with 44mm gravel tyres
It's all just marketing. I put handlebars on my car and now it's a canoe.
Hahahah. I fell into watching too much youtube too. I have been working on a -7% 1.5 mile KOM. Aeroad at 2:00 flat, 13.6 lb SuperSix hi mod at 2:01, TI Gravel GR300 on Deep Dish Reynolds Wheels2:03. You are the biggest factor in aero not your bike!
Blah blah commenting. I lowered the suspension, put racing slicks and lighter wheels on my mini van for the track. Now it’s an F1 car 🤷♂️
I really like the gen3 checkpoints but wish it came with 2x grx. I live in the flatest of flat here in deep south texas, so I have no need for 1x with super easy gearing.
Actually 2x has lower gears.
You could get a 1x and throw on a 11-38 Cassette with a 44 Chainring or so. Just get the bike you like and then change the gearing to the one you need
I don’t think I’ve ever seen a pair of bikes so utterly boring in design and colour
I have a racy gravel frame and an adventurery gravel frame. After 4 years not sure which is best for me
Both the Checkpoint and Checkmate have relatively long reaches and low stack heights. The stack on the Checkpoint is lower than other bikes in the "adventure" class.
Ya the new checkpoint doesn't seem upright at all
To be honest, far too many bikes stack figures are too low, even for supposed Endurance bikes.......I don't know how they get this so wrong.
I looked at both the Domane, and Checkpoint, and the Domane is a better fit for adventure riding, than the Checkpoint.....
@@Andy_ATB I recently shopped for a new adventure gravel bike and settled on the Giant Revolt Advanced because of it's stack and reach numbers compared to the competition.
I'd like to buy the trek checkpoint but i'd like to know if the 50 mm tires fit comfortably on that frame, in your video did you use the 50 or the 45 mm?
thank you very much
If you buy 1 size smaller and fit 1cm longer stem - your “adventure” bike suddenly becomes racier than your “race” model. Pure marketing bs.
And it can fit tires that will be faster for some courses. Really surprising that trek did this considering they apparently had a push for fewer models.
Unless you've finished top 10 in a UCI gravel or Life Time Grand Prix race, you don't need a gravel race bike!
@Csapi007 if only things were as simple as you try to make them out to be!
Except you do if that's what you want. if you like to race you have the option to get a race focused bike, so what? Are you benefiting from all it's tech as a weekend warrior? not really.. are you finishing top 10 anywhere? no... but you aren't competing for the Sensible Cup either so just enjoy your life and do what you want.
Is the Checkmate simply a Domane SLR with greater tire clearance and madone’s cockpit ?
Whats that bar bar?
Dropper post on a gravel bike for big sends? Um, yeah, sure 😂
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What about price factor ? The checkmate starts at 11k here 🤯
Just get a Poseidon X for Racing or Redwood for "adventure"
52 sec in.. "comes with an unhealthy disregard for your personal safety" I'm tapping out already. This sweaty sock spouts some tosh
There's Adventure, Race, Allround and Monster...and I can't wait for people to realize that category equals purpose. People putting too much diffent meanings into "gravel".
I was just told recently that Pirelli has 40 mil treads been googling but to no avail…
They are for sale on ebay. I run Schwalbe G-One speed 40s and they go well on pavement and can do OK on dirt.
what is it with you and GCN...every other article is "Gravel vs..."
the adventure bike does exist? well it does... and is not a gravel bike and not a trek is any bike that you could turn into bigger gears and you dare to put on heavy loads of packing ... a race bike in any cycling discipline is the most state of the art light bike you can have, or afford BUT then you can go trek and buy one of those bad boys we are N+1 to have ... just because.
Trek ad essentially. Bye
why, you can apply this to any bike.. They aren't hiding sponsorships..
@YounanPhoto yes you can apply the principles to other bikes. But I can bet this was not about the channel wanting to do another video on a topic discussed to death in recent years. This was surely Trek approaching them wanting to do a paid advertising for their two gravelbikes and the channel creating content around that. I'm pretty tired of that spoonfeeding.
@@JustBrowsing777 could not agree more. Very disappointed.
Why don’t you take that handlebar bag off so we can actually see the bike. 🤷🤷🤷
😴 Bike vids suck nowadays.
Then don't watch them
So don't watch em
Gravel bikes sucks. Mtb is for terrain