It was more than a “few years.” Jones went 49-1 from 1989 to 2003!!! His only loss was a DQ. He was slaying world champions. Handed James Tony and Montell Griffin their first L
He not only handed them the first Ls he embarrassed them. Especially with Toney, when he was considered one of the best P4P boxers at the time. RJJ is the modern era greatest in my opinion.
Niall Daniel yeah sorry about that bleep it was too late to go back and try to edit lol. Still impressive as hell how he beat him with one good hand nevertheless.
YungJuve I remember that fight. 1/2 the room pulling for RJJ, 1/2 for Tony. James Tony tried to play cutsie like RJJ, and got knocked on his ass. RJJ or Sugar Ray Leonard.
I love roy but are you nuts, maybe the most athletely gifted fighter ever but his technique is flawed, he sits in the philly shell with his hands down . His foot work is flawed, his defense is flawed, his boxing iq is flawed, speed and power is what he had, and when he got older and that elite athletism faded than you saw what happened? Lol right??? Def NOT the most complete fighter ever, ray robinson. Henry armstrong, crawford , Sal Sanchez, hagler. Those are complete fighters.. maybe the fastest ever for his size
@@theesotaricitalian6338 you mean tht after 14 years in boxing with 1 lose becose Hit the Guy when the Globe was done Roy Jones in 14 years He Fuck people Up and a top 5 havyweight Roy is the best ever Ali the greatest Mike the badest and remember Roy and Floyd the where in there Prime the Same time Roy was much better than Floyd that seys much
@@theesotaricitalian6338 Correct, Roy was the mos ATHLETICALLY GIFTED fighter of all time. And the evidence for that is how incomplete and unorthodox. he was. He didn't need orthodox boxing because he was "Superman" (his old nickname). He was athletically on a completely different level. I would add though that he had speed power AND TIMING. His timing was off the charts
What a goddamn fool you are. You got MEN like Harry Greb, Henry Armstrong, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Roberto Duran out there to just name a few and you say some dumb irresponsible and non-thought out shit like that. You dumb fuck!
Hav Risen and non of those fighter had the natural physical ability that roy exhibited. Its not even close from a pure athleticism perspective? Theres noone that even comes close.
Demetrius Harrison rjjr beat bernard hopkins also, won world titles at LHW N HW. Youre missing my point. Forger accomplishments, just soeaking from a naturally gifted athlete. Roy is the most naturally gifted boxer of all time. Im not saying he is no.1 boxer. Im saying theres never been another prize fighter that possesed roys natural talent.
Demetrius Harrison YES you totally missed my point. You keep bringing skill to it, thats not what i am talking about. Ill say it one more time for the last time. Give me one, just one fighter in boxing history that had more natural god giving ability! Ali? Nope, mayweather? Nope, sugar ray leonard? He is the only prize fighter that one can even attempt to make a comparison. Sugar ray robinson? Nope, sugar ray never had the speed and reactions of one Roy jones junior at middleweight or higher. Im not gonna argue with you anymore because you dont know how to stick to the point. I never said rjj is the best boxer of all time, simply that he had more natural god giving talent than any fighter in history. This is not up for debate.
*People forget Mike completely ventured outside of the sport doing drugs movies and Hollywood when he retired. Meanwhile Roy stayed on the side of the ring observing at close proximity and mentally continued learning from the best even after retirement. Mike might be the bigger man but i feel Roy will be the smarter man. I will go as far as to say the brain beats the braun in this fight. I got my boy Roy with the decision!*
Roy Jones Jnr is a freak of nature , he went 14 years un matched and i think we will never see a human like that lace up the gloves again . the way he moved was like watching a movie
@@3rdpersonality48 I hear you, but he didn't beat him...its alot of great fighters who I believe would of put up great battles against a prime mike, but I think he would of been able to be victorious against anyone and that's just my personal opinion!!!
@@bigredupsideyohead8485 he didn't beat him but he nearly won half the bout and the only knockdown Mike got was at the end of a round that Tillis was winning plus that knockdown was from Tillis throwing his lunging amateurish hook that Ali wouldn't even think of throwing ..prime Ali barely lost a round without leaving first gear .. Tillis tried to box like Ali and he confused Mike so put prime Ali instead of Tillis I'm talking mid 60's Ali ,Ali Patterson 1 Ali Cooper 2 Ali Cleveland Williams .. watch Ali chuvalo 1 Ali didn't really show what he had till the championship rounds especially round 12 and notice how dominant Ali was at the end of the bout I truly believe Ali could've turned chuvalos face into mashed hamburger way worse than he did if he wanted to just by watching the end of the bout ...prime Ali's stamina was insane chuvalo was no pushover with a record of 73 and 18 and chuvalo was never even knocked down in his career ever he had 64 ko and Ali let him Tee off on his body ..guys were tougher bac in the day ,joe Frazier broke chuvalos face orbital bone and his eye was hanging he wasn't gonna quit the ref had to stop the bout .. Tyson's era you had Oliver McCall quit and Tyson quit on his stool at the end plus the biting cuz Tyson didn't want the heat plus Andrew golota quit against Tyson .. different mentality different breed from the Ali era boxing is 80 percent mental
Gerald McClellan was a middle weight. When he fought Nigel Benn, Nigel was getting his ass kicked so bad he started repeatedly rabbit punching Gerald. The ref even warned him about it. He kept it up until Gerald was severely injured to the extent he collapsed between rounds in the corner.
Jones is definitely the GOAT, regardless of people saying if he retired after Ruiz fight he'd be the GOAT, the man fought on out of his prime years an was still beating primed mediocre fighters, say what you want but that's a GOAT in my eyes... He fought on until he could fight no longer, he will always be the best in my eyes, there's no one and will never be anyone like RJ
It would better to say RJJ was more physically gifted than Mike Tyson. But when Mike Tyson was in Cus D'amato's team, his mental discipline was insane, he was insanely mentally gifted.
If Roy Never moved up to Heavyweight.. He Would Still Be King to this Day.. Tarver didn't hurt Roy.. Ruiz Hurt Roy mid fight then add losing 26 pounds in 6 to 8 weeks at that age is what got him..
harleyzeth Roy Jones never really learned how to box, he maid Aton of fundamental errors that you learn not to do when you start boxing, he was so athletically gifted that he didn’t need to learn them, when he started getting older and wasn’t as quick and his timing started to go, he was getting beat by the elite because he never learned the fundamentals of how to defend yourself in the ring
Cody Mana that's totally inaccurate as hell. That man was a genius in the ring, and knew how to box. It's called training to a level to where. You don't necessarily have to apply fundamentals anymore. Your discipline and God given talent allows you to supplement. Where others must apply fundamentals. Like driving a car or riding a bicycle with no hands. Whilst taking sharp turns or corners. Where other riders must always apply the 11 to 2/5 on the wheel. Otherwise they'd crash and burn. RJJ, Ali, SRR, SRL, Whitaker, Mayweather even and several others. Are classified as unconventional boxers. They dont necessarily obey the textbook boxing rules. They're so talented and gifted due to rigorous training. It allows them to cheat/bend the rules a bit. The only thing Roy never did was change his style as he aged like others did. He kept trying to do the things he'd get away with in his prime. He adopted no defense, other than relying on his fast twitch movements and reflexes. That were shot by the time he started taking losses. Make no mistake about it, all of them guy's with superb athleticism. Had to train themselves to that level. It didnt just come overnight. Failure to adapt and trying to break bad habits. That one has been so accustomed to getting away with for years. They are hard to break and become second nature to an individual. Jones knew boxing and bagged plenty of elites. He lost to journeyman, that he'd easily beat in his prime.
It's true he had a lot of bad habits on how he fought . Kevin Rooney has said he could get away with what almost any other fighter couldn't . Because he was so gifted and fast
jones has more skills no doubt... but tyson has way more power and ferocity. so tyson would probably clip him and end him sooner or later... regardless. i dont even want to think about that, theyre just both legends
Ahh man I can tell you’re a nice guy.. I’ll tell the truth here.. RJJ wouldn’t stand a chance against a prime Tyson (and I love Roy).. Ruiz isn’t even a quarter of what mike was in 1988, he’s just way too big and fast for him
I think lomachinko might have better movement than Jones..both phenomenal though..also Tyson in his prime had Awsome movememt and defense..it just gets slept on because he was a KO artist
Do your due diligence, Rogan! McClellan was middleweight champion, not light heavyweight. And Ben rabbit punched him till the brain damage he caused forced McClellan to collapse.
I remember a proposed fight years ago between Roy Jones Jr vs Mike Tyson. That would have been a bad fight for Jones especially at Tyson's Prime, Pre Don King Days, under Cus, and Rooney's training. Roy Jones wouldn't have been able to hit Tyson hard enough to keep him off. Tyson has a great chin, Jones, not so much. I'd predict, Tyson KOs Jones Round 5. ✌
Other way around. Gerald couldn't train for weeks due to a left hook that damaged his jaw after their Olympic trials fight. One of the reasons why Roy got the spot on the Olympic team as opposed to Gerald despite out pointing Roy.
Rogan's recalling of the Ben and McClellen doesn't give credit to Nigel Ben. It wasn't the clash of heads that caused the brain damage but the ferocity of Ben's punches that caught up with him. Ben wasn't one you wanted to get hit by too often and McClellen didn't give enough respect to Ben and payed for it dearly. Can I just say Prince Naseem Hamed was an incredible fighter with even faster reflexes than Roy Jones so deserves a mention.
Think joe needs to watch the nigel benn vs McClellan fight again and the documentary. Benn beat McClellan to a pulp, Emanuel steward wasnt in mcclellan corner coz he didnt pay him.
Iron Mike would bury anybody when he was focused.. There was a point in time where he legitimately was the one man on Earth nobody wanted to fuck with, ever.. because they knew they were about to get fuckin annihilated.. Roy is incredible but fuck no ha aha..
Ali stop with his politics his fighting IQ His speed his strength his endurance Ali was the greatest boxer Ever and I’m always down for the argument of why he is not
Tyson would dealt with Montell Griffin better than Roy did in his first fight with Montell, Roy had to fight like Tyson in his rematch vs Griffin which worked but wouldn`t have worked vs better fighters, if Roy came forward against Hagler like that he`d get a lesson on inside fighting which Tyson at his weight was a master at. I feel Tony Tucker was better than any opponent Roy beat P4P and Spinks would have beaten Roy at light heavy and heavyweight, I feel a good comparison would be Roy v Spinks at LH to Tyson v Spinks at heavy even though Spinks was more effective at the lighter weight, Tyson and Spinks were better than Roy.
Roy would have been beaten by Douglas the night he lost to Calzaghe, it was as one sided a beating as the one Tyson took off Douglas except Tyson decked Buster by timing him with the uppercut when he was over extending with his jab, if Rooney had been in Tyson`s corner, his timing of the uppercut would have come sooner, Rooney and D`Amato were better trainers than Roy`s people.
Roy jones jr , had poor fundamentals, once he's speed and reflexes were gone he fell apart.Roy Jones jr was one of my favs,but Tyson would kill him, would cut off the ring
Travis Wilson LMAO!!! Hasn't he already caught an L in his first 10 fights & didn't he just get dropped in his last fight? He should not be mentioned with greats EVER.
James Carle Roy Jones Benn dropped in his early career and you don't give a fuck. Its boxing anything can happen. But you can't take away the skills and talent
novy acero Lmao!!! You're kidding right? Roy was not dropped early in his career nor did he take a loss so early in his career. You must be new to this sport.
Chavez Jr didn't land any and maybe even throw any in round 1 of his fight with Sergio Martinez. Thats just another fight where one guy didn't land shit in a round haha
History is funny, now Roy is getting credit for taunting as if he didn’t steal the hole telling the ref to stop the fight thing from Leonard who stole his hole style from Ali. And I’ve seen a bunch of rounds end without a fighter landing a punch Christ Willy pep won a round without landing a punch. I’m surprised rogan is such a RJJ fanboy. But I do agree at 160-168 Roy was on an other level than any other fighter of “HIS” generation.and to be fair I really didn’t like Roy but have way more respect for him now due to the way he would lose like a champion and always come back for more, if he had a great chin he actually might have been the g.o.a.t but it’s still clearly Robinson.
What happened with Roy Jones jr. Was... Be fought past his point and a guy called Antonio Tarver, sometimes the guy just has your number and Antonio Tarver had Roy Jones jr. Number... but rice should have never thought past the second knockout, he really shouldn't have got past the first one, but the second one showed that his chin was gone and he tarnished his legacy after that... However, he is undoubtedly the best. If you take him and compare him to the champions of the past who fought all the time, that's a whole different thing, but I don't think you could take any Champion within his weight class at any time in history and put them up against Roy Jones in his prime and they would have come out on top over Roy.
Greg Falco Yeah right when did you start watching floyd? Dude have plenty offense in his peak days. once he shattered his hands he became more defensive.
These two are now fighting each other in September 2020. Can't see the point of it myself. Two shot fighters having a brawl. Whoever wins doesn't matter in the slightest. It's absolutely meaningless.
PEOPLE ACT LIKE ROY WAS SO GREAT AND ALWAYS SEEM TO FORGET ABOUT THE MANY MANY FIGHTS HE GOT VIOLENTLY KO'D IN AND THE ONES HE LOST ALWAYS MAKING SOME EXCUSE THAT EITHER HE WASNT THE SAME OR HE WAS PAST HIS PRIME. THERES NO SUCH THING AS A PRIME IN FIGHTING EITHER YOU CAN FIGHT OR YOU CANT FIGHT. IF ROY WAS EVER GREAT HE WOULD =NT HAVE BEEN ON HIS BACK UNCONSCIOUS SOO OFTEN.
Jax Wins knocked out 4 times in 75 matches? And was 49-1 before his first loss, as the 1 was a DQ before actually losing a bout? And beat some of the best ever? Yeah, tell me about how good your life has been as a McDonald's fry cook.
Paz had more success against Jones in the early rounds of their fight, than a fighter his level would of had vs a prime Tyson, because Mike was better defensively than Roy.
I hate it when people overrate Roy Jones Jr. boxing is about more than speed. what Roy did was all genetics and speed. not much in skill. He wasnt that great. boxing fundemantal are important to true boxing fans and Roy dosnt bring that he brings the genetic freak show with super speed. Understand that the average person no matter how much they train cant do what Roy did becaue it was based on genetics and not a matter of skill.
Then how can he be overrated? By your own admission he wasnt a great boxer, DESPITE his lack of fundamentals he went on to become a top 20 fighter all time one athleticism alone. Thats mindblowing to me! We will never sew another fighter with rjjs physical gifts. He is without question the most naturaly physically gifted fighter this sport has ever seen and there isnt a close second.
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It was more than a “few years.” Jones went 49-1 from 1989 to 2003!!! His only loss was a DQ. He was slaying world champions. Handed James Tony and Montell Griffin their first L
BadgerBJJ Bernard Hopkins as well was undefeated until RJJ beat him with one good left hand. Right hand was broken that whole fight.
D nah Hopkins lost in his debut mate but he went on to be great so it was a good win for Roy
He not only handed them the first Ls he embarrassed them. Especially with Toney, when he was considered one of the best P4P boxers at the time. RJJ is the modern era greatest in my opinion.
Niall Daniel yeah sorry about that bleep it was too late to go back and try to edit lol. Still impressive as hell how he beat him with one good hand nevertheless.
YungJuve I remember that fight. 1/2 the room pulling for RJJ, 1/2 for Tony. James Tony tried to play cutsie like RJJ, and got knocked on his ass. RJJ or Sugar Ray Leonard.
Roy Jones by far the most complete boxer that ever laced gloves... much love
I love roy but are you nuts, maybe the most athletely gifted fighter ever but his technique is flawed, he sits in the philly shell with his hands down . His foot work is flawed, his defense is flawed, his boxing iq is flawed, speed and power is what he had, and when he got older and that elite athletism faded than you saw what happened? Lol right??? Def NOT the most complete fighter ever, ray robinson. Henry armstrong, crawford , Sal Sanchez, hagler. Those are complete fighters.. maybe the fastest ever for his size
@Jonathan Aguilar you mean when He comeback from havyweight Roy by far the best Boxer ever
@@theesotaricitalian6338 you mean tht after 14 years in boxing with 1 lose becose Hit the Guy when the Globe was done Roy Jones in 14 years He Fuck people Up and a top 5 havyweight Roy is the best ever Ali the greatest Mike the badest and remember Roy and Floyd the where in there Prime the Same time Roy was much better than Floyd that seys much
@@theesotaricitalian6338 Correct, Roy was the mos ATHLETICALLY GIFTED fighter of all time. And the evidence for that is how incomplete and unorthodox. he was. He didn't need orthodox boxing because he was "Superman" (his old nickname). He was athletically on a completely different level. I would add though that he had speed power AND TIMING. His timing was off the charts
Roy Jones Jr is still my favorite
Roy physically is the best fighter of all time
What a goddamn fool you are. You got MEN like Harry Greb, Henry Armstrong, Sugar Ray Robinson, and Roberto Duran out there to just name a few and you say some dumb irresponsible and non-thought out shit like that. You dumb fuck!
Rick A I never saw a fighter as physically gifted as RJJ.
Hav Risen and non of those fighter had the natural physical ability that roy exhibited. Its not even close from a pure athleticism perspective? Theres noone that even comes close.
Demetrius Harrison rjjr beat bernard hopkins also, won world titles at LHW N HW. Youre missing my point. Forger accomplishments, just soeaking from a naturally gifted athlete. Roy is the most naturally gifted boxer of all time. Im not saying he is no.1 boxer. Im saying theres never been another prize fighter that possesed roys natural talent.
Demetrius Harrison YES you totally missed my point. You keep bringing skill to it, thats not what i am talking about. Ill say it one more time for the last time. Give me one, just one fighter in boxing history that had more natural god giving ability! Ali? Nope, mayweather? Nope, sugar ray leonard? He is the only prize fighter that one can even attempt to make a comparison. Sugar ray robinson? Nope, sugar ray never had the speed and reactions of one Roy jones junior at middleweight or higher. Im not gonna argue with you anymore because you dont know how to stick to the point. I never said rjj is the best boxer of all time, simply that he had more natural god giving talent than any fighter in history. This is not up for debate.
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my two favourite fighters of all time!
*People forget Mike completely ventured outside of the sport doing drugs movies and Hollywood when he retired. Meanwhile Roy stayed on the side of the ring observing at close proximity and mentally continued learning from the best even after retirement. Mike might be the bigger man but i feel Roy will be the smarter man. I will go as far as to say the brain beats the braun in this fight. I got my boy Roy with the decision!*
His super power was his speed. That speed is gone. Watch him train. He also lose his breath easily.
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Roy Jones Jnr is a freak of nature , he went 14 years un matched and i think we will never see a human like that lace up the gloves again . the way he moved was like watching a movie
"A grown man is gonna have at least 5 concussions in his life" 😆
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Much different fighters. Tyson was the HW GOAT and RJJ was MW and LHW GOAT.
Maershkin Schrabs hw goat is too far for Tyson
Maershkin Schrabs we know they were different fighters. We’re talking about the best period. Doesn’t matter what weight class
The hw goat is Ali, no contest
He never said Roy Jones was better then mike he just said there his 2 favorite boxers and went into detail about why he likes Roy
It's a Click bate alright
1 concussion can be too much it depends on the severity
I never knew that Joe Rogan trained with Dana Rosenblat! He was an excellent boxer. Pazienza knocked him out but he beat Pazienza in the rematch
I was their too I never thought Roy would ever lose back then
Both are my favorite 2 boxers, but imo I think a primed iron mike was to much do deal with for anyone!
James Tillis gave prime Mike problems 42 and 22 Tillis prime Ali would pic Tyson apart
@@3rdpersonality48 I hear you, but he didn't beat him...its alot of great fighters who I believe would of put up great battles against a prime mike, but I think he would of been able to be victorious against anyone and that's just my personal opinion!!!
@@bigredupsideyohead8485 he didn't beat him but he nearly won half the bout and the only knockdown Mike got was at the end of a round that Tillis was winning plus that knockdown was from Tillis throwing his lunging amateurish hook that Ali wouldn't even think of throwing ..prime Ali barely lost a round without leaving first gear .. Tillis tried to box like Ali and he confused Mike so put prime Ali instead of Tillis I'm talking mid 60's Ali ,Ali Patterson 1 Ali Cooper 2 Ali Cleveland Williams .. watch Ali chuvalo 1 Ali didn't really show what he had till the championship rounds especially round 12 and notice how dominant Ali was at the end of the bout I truly believe Ali could've turned chuvalos face into mashed hamburger way worse than he did if he wanted to just by watching the end of the bout ...prime Ali's stamina was insane chuvalo was no pushover with a record of 73 and 18 and chuvalo was never even knocked down in his career ever he had 64 ko and Ali let him Tee off on his body ..guys were tougher bac in the day ,joe Frazier broke chuvalos face orbital bone and his eye was hanging he wasn't gonna quit the ref had to stop the bout .. Tyson's era you had Oliver McCall quit and Tyson quit on his stool at the end plus the biting cuz Tyson didn't want the heat plus Andrew golota quit against Tyson .. different mentality different breed from the Ali era boxing is 80 percent mental
@@bigredupsideyohead8485 my mistake I meant round 15 not 12 vs chuvalo
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Now we get to see it!
Did Mayweather watched Roy Jones Jr before saying he is the best of all time? This dude right here was not running away and smashing people.
Roy Jones Jr...the ninja! Definitely my favorite boxer of all time!
Gerald McClellan was a middle weight. When he fought Nigel Benn, Nigel was getting his ass kicked so bad he started repeatedly rabbit punching Gerald. The ref even warned him about it. He kept it up until Gerald was severely injured to the extent he collapsed between rounds in the corner.
Which episode was this on?
Convo got sus at the end
Gerald had a previous injury from fighting the Hawk which lead to his brain injury in the fight Joe spoke of.
Jones is definitely the GOAT, regardless of people saying if he retired after Ruiz fight he'd be the GOAT, the man fought on out of his prime years an was still beating primed mediocre fighters, say what you want but that's a GOAT in my eyes... He fought on until he could fight no longer, he will always be the best in my eyes, there's no one and will never be anyone like RJ
Well we are going to find out soon whos better
It would better to say RJJ was more physically gifted than Mike Tyson.
But when Mike Tyson was in Cus D'amato's team, his mental discipline was insane, he was insanely mentally gifted.
If Roy Never moved up to Heavyweight.. He Would Still Be King to this Day.. Tarver didn't hurt Roy.. Ruiz Hurt Roy mid fight then add losing 26 pounds in 6 to 8 weeks at that age is what got him..
Roy Jones was true talent but real bad fundamentals compared to Tyson.
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harleyzeth Roy Jones never really learned how to box, he maid Aton of fundamental errors that you learn not to do when you start boxing, he was so athletically gifted that he didn’t need to learn them, when he started getting older and wasn’t as quick and his timing started to go, he was getting beat by the elite because he never learned the fundamentals of how to defend yourself in the ring
Cody Mana that's totally inaccurate as hell. That man was a genius in the ring, and knew how to box. It's called training to a level to where. You don't necessarily have to apply fundamentals anymore. Your discipline and God given talent allows you to supplement. Where others must apply fundamentals. Like driving a car or riding a bicycle with no hands. Whilst taking sharp turns or corners. Where other riders must always apply the 11 to 2/5 on the wheel. Otherwise they'd crash and burn.
RJJ, Ali, SRR, SRL, Whitaker, Mayweather even and several others. Are classified as unconventional boxers. They dont necessarily obey the textbook boxing rules. They're so talented and gifted due to rigorous training. It allows them to cheat/bend the rules a bit. The only thing Roy never did was change his style as he aged like others did. He kept trying to do the things he'd get away with in his prime. He adopted no defense, other than relying on his fast twitch movements and reflexes. That were shot by the time he started taking losses. Make no mistake about it, all of them guy's with superb athleticism. Had to train themselves to that level. It didnt just come overnight. Failure to adapt and trying to break bad habits. That one has been so accustomed to getting away with for years. They are hard to break and become second nature to an individual. Jones knew boxing and bagged plenty of elites. He lost to journeyman, that he'd easily beat in his prime.
It's true he had a lot of bad habits on how he fought . Kevin Rooney has said he could get away with what almost any other fighter couldn't . Because he was so gifted and fast
Greg Thompson
No shit they heavyweights:(
jones has more skills no doubt... but tyson has way more power and ferocity. so tyson would probably clip him and end him sooner or later... regardless. i dont even want to think about that, theyre just both legends
Nah Roy’s skill was no where near Tyson’s. Roy was just so fast and agile no one could deal with it
Ahh man I can tell you’re a nice guy.. I’ll tell the truth here.. RJJ wouldn’t stand a chance against a prime Tyson (and I love Roy).. Ruiz isn’t even a quarter of what mike was in 1988, he’s just way too big and fast for him
I think lomachinko might have better movement than Jones..both phenomenal though..also Tyson in his prime had Awsome movememt and defense..it just gets slept on because he was a KO artist
Do your due diligence, Rogan! McClellan was middleweight champion, not light heavyweight. And Ben rabbit punched him till the brain damage he caused forced McClellan to collapse.
Joe rogan needs to brush up on his boxing. Called him Roy nelson at 5 minute mark
Yh and Gerald McClellan was a middleweight not a light heavy
Heard it, just as I read your comment :)
He's almost always high on his show so I give him a pass.
Good conversation
RJJ unbelievable talent. Freak of nature. Its a shame he didn't fight the very best at his peak at Light Heavy.
The quacking noises lol
I remember a proposed fight years ago between Roy Jones Jr vs Mike Tyson. That would have been a bad fight for Jones especially at Tyson's Prime, Pre Don King Days, under Cus, and Rooney's training. Roy Jones wouldn't have been able to hit Tyson hard enough to keep him off. Tyson has a great chin, Jones, not so much. I'd predict, Tyson KOs Jones Round 5. ✌
Chaucer Parks no he wouldn’t. Tyson had problems with razor ruddock, and a few more other fighter who were nowhere near the level of Jones
Agreed. Jones would have no chance against Tyson in his prime.
@@DopeBoysofatlanta Roy would have got KO'd by Ruddock.
Ay RJJ is had something you can't teach he must've got alot of whoopins growing up cuz his speed and timing is a gift
Roy jones was untouchable all around
Gerald McClellan was a Middleweight
G man broke Roy's jaw in the amateurs...
Other way around. Gerald couldn't train for weeks due to a left hook that damaged his jaw after their Olympic trials fight. One of the reasons why Roy got the spot on the Olympic team as opposed to Gerald despite out pointing Roy.
Daniel Pendleton That was a tough fight...... Gerald was No Pussy
c staxx Hell no he wasn't, that dude was ALL man. Definitely top 10 P4P hardest hitter
If they fought today Mike would knock his ass out. Mike still got his power and Roy lost his speed and reflexes.
Mike Tyson was a heavyweight and Roy Jones Jr was a middleweight. You're comparing someone a full 70 pounds lighter than the other.
Haha.. duh
Mike was a smaller heavyweight and Roy was a heavyweight champ once plus he finished his career at cruiserweight so maybe only 20-30 pound difference.
tye burnham we talking about in they prime dumb ass
Rogan's recalling of the Ben and McClellen doesn't give credit to Nigel Ben. It wasn't the clash of heads that caused the brain damage but the ferocity of Ben's punches that caught up with him. Ben wasn't one you wanted to get hit by too often and McClellen didn't give enough respect to Ben and payed for it dearly.
Can I just say Prince Naseem Hamed was an incredible fighter with even faster reflexes than Roy Jones so deserves a mention.
Jones was damn fast
Think joe needs to watch the nigel benn vs McClellan fight again and the documentary. Benn beat McClellan to a pulp, Emanuel steward wasnt in mcclellan corner coz he didnt pay him.
Pete J G man was beating Benn but Benn caught him with a shot that caused brain damage
Christian Soldier right, McClellan was winning the fight clearly, that’s y it was such a shock when he went down. The shots didn’t even look that bad
Iron Mike would bury anybody when he was focused.. There was a point in time where he legitimately was the one man on Earth nobody wanted to fuck with, ever.. because they knew they were about to get fuckin annihilated.. Roy is incredible but fuck no ha aha..
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Why the fuck they talking about Jones Jr and showing Tyson highlights half way through the video???
Ali stop with his politics his fighting IQ His speed his strength his endurance Ali was the greatest boxer Ever and I’m always down for the argument of why he is not
Tyson >
Nobody was better than mike. Cut it out joe.
He said roy nelson lol
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Tyson would dealt with Montell Griffin better than Roy did in his first fight with Montell, Roy had to fight like Tyson in his rematch vs Griffin which worked but wouldn`t have worked vs better fighters, if Roy came forward against Hagler like that he`d get a lesson on inside fighting which Tyson at his weight was a master at. I feel Tony Tucker was better than any opponent Roy beat P4P and Spinks would have beaten Roy at light heavy and heavyweight, I feel a good comparison would be Roy v Spinks at LH to Tyson v Spinks at heavy even though Spinks was more effective at the lighter weight, Tyson and Spinks were better than Roy.
If you know who Leon Spinks is then you`re old enough to know who Michael Spinks is.
Please, Tyson was getting destroyed by the likes of James Douglas barely aged 23. Even in his 40's Roy wouldn't lose to somebody like Douglas.
Roy would have been beaten by Douglas the night he lost to Calzaghe, it was as one sided a beating as the one Tyson took off Douglas except Tyson decked Buster by timing him with the uppercut when he was over extending with his jab, if Rooney had been in Tyson`s corner, his timing of the uppercut would have come sooner, Rooney and D`Amato were better trainers than Roy`s people.
Editing isn't great.
Then don't watch it.
Roy jones jr , had poor fundamentals, once he's speed and reflexes were gone he fell apart.Roy Jones jr was one of my favs,but Tyson would kill him, would cut off the ring
Lol
Hilarious hes talking about roy mid way through but is tyson fighting
they were mine too.... in that order..... until I watched Vasyl lomachenko lol
most gifted boxer to step into a ring ever.... for now
Travis Wilson LMAO!!! Hasn't he already caught an L in his first 10 fights & didn't he just get dropped in his last fight? He should not be mentioned with greats EVER.
James Carle Roy Jones Benn dropped in his early career and you don't give a fuck. Its boxing anything can happen. But you can't take away the skills and talent
novy acero Lmao!!! You're kidding right? Roy was not dropped early in his career nor did he take a loss so early in his career. You must be new to this sport.
I honestly think Lomachenko is a "new Roy Jones" to boxing. I believe they're the same kind of fighter: pure masterclass speed and technique.
Didnt talk about tyson at all .
how many concussions are 'too many'? ask sam harris
looks like a diving comp
Roy jone is better than floyd too Roy have better speed than Tyson but Tyson Power is too much for small roy jone
Gerald was not a light heavyweight he and Ben fought at 12 stones
Chavez Jr didn't land any and maybe even throw any in round 1 of his fight with Sergio Martinez. Thats just another fight where one guy didn't land shit in a round haha
mike tyson was probably the most overrated over marketed boxer of all time. any fool or casual who says mike was the goat please take it easy on them
Roy Nelson in his prime...lol joe
Gerald McClellan beat Roy in the amateurs
roy jones by faaaaaar
History is funny, now Roy is getting credit for taunting as if he didn’t steal the hole telling the ref to stop the fight thing from Leonard who stole his hole style from Ali. And I’ve seen a bunch of rounds end without a fighter landing a punch Christ Willy pep won a round without landing a punch. I’m surprised rogan is such a RJJ fanboy. But I do agree at 160-168 Roy was on an other level than any other fighter of “HIS” generation.and to be fair I really didn’t like Roy but have way more respect for him now due to the way he would lose like a champion and always come back for more, if he had a great chin he actually might have been the g.o.a.t but it’s still clearly Robinson.
The annoying generic background music gets you a dislike since it stopped me from watching this video.
Roy Jones jr and manny pacquiao are the greatest boxers ever in my opinion
What happened with Roy Jones jr. Was... Be fought past his point and a guy called Antonio Tarver, sometimes the guy just has your number and Antonio Tarver had Roy Jones jr. Number... but rice should have never thought past the second knockout, he really shouldn't have got past the first one, but the second one showed that his chin was gone and he tarnished his legacy after that... However, he is undoubtedly the best. If you take him and compare him to the champions of the past who fought all the time, that's a whole different thing, but I don't think you could take any Champion within his weight class at any time in history and put them up against Roy Jones in his prime and they would have come out on top over Roy.
Joe Rogan don't know shit about Boxing. Keeps those lips on Dana White's ass over there in MMA.
Didn't throw many jabs 😕👓🤔
Good clip but WHY THE STUPID, ANNOYING MUSIC?!?!?! It absolutely adds nothing, and is annoying
MIKE TYSON WAS ONLY KO'D 2 TIMES ROY HAS BEEN KO'D LIKE HALF A DOZEN TIMES AND VIOLENTLY. JOE ROGAN DOSNT KNOW SHIT ABOUT BOXING
Joe must of been high lol. His commenting is a bit sketchy.
Roy's style was technically flawed though, so I might have to give the advantage to Floyd in that regard.
Greg Falco what he lacked in technique he more than made up for it with speed and physicality
This is very true, but Floyd had both....he just lacked one-punch power.
Because his offense was shet. He basically would never punch as long as his opponent was throwing.
Greg Falco
Yeah right when did you start watching floyd? Dude have plenty offense in his peak days. once he shattered his hands he became more defensive.
Roy was not "flawed" technically.
He just didn't use a jab as much.
Somewhere out in space, TRT Vitor and Prime Roy Jones are lurking, waiting..
These two are now fighting each other in September 2020. Can't see the point of it myself. Two shot fighters having a brawl. Whoever wins doesn't matter in the slightest. It's absolutely meaningless.
Tyson beat no one. The only three times he faced anyone was the two Evander fights and Lennox Lewis and he got stomped three times
He was washed up at that point.
burn in hell.
Roy Jones all day nigga!!
roy would lose
The opinion of a man who thought Conor could beat Conor in a boxing match mean very little to me or to anyone who knows boxing...
PEOPLE ACT LIKE ROY WAS SO GREAT AND ALWAYS SEEM TO FORGET ABOUT THE MANY MANY FIGHTS HE GOT VIOLENTLY KO'D IN AND THE ONES HE LOST ALWAYS MAKING SOME EXCUSE THAT EITHER HE WASNT THE SAME OR HE WAS PAST HIS PRIME. THERES NO SUCH THING AS A PRIME IN FIGHTING EITHER YOU CAN FIGHT OR YOU CANT FIGHT.
IF ROY WAS EVER GREAT HE WOULD =NT HAVE BEEN ON HIS BACK UNCONSCIOUS SOO OFTEN.
Jax Wins knocked out 4 times in 75 matches? And was 49-1 before his first loss, as the 1 was a DQ before actually losing a bout? And beat some of the best ever?
Yeah, tell me about how good your life has been as a McDonald's fry cook.
@@ChromeCobra Don't argue with people who don't know thier shit. It's a waste of time.
My gran mom greater than Joe rogan
Paz had more success against Jones in the early rounds of their fight, than a fighter his level would of had vs a prime Tyson, because Mike was better defensively than Roy.
Naw tyson better
Roy Jones Jr would get destroyed by Sugar Ray Robinson
Black dudes will always rule sports
Running from the cops and baby mamas is good training.
Dodging the hate makes you agile.
i dont care race, but why did klitschko rule for 2 decades? grow up little kid
Tito Mish no dude, the poor ppl will
Talk about sky right?! XD
jesus joe. learn about boxing or stop ptretending you know about boxing. im not sat here tell you how to mma
I hate it when people overrate Roy Jones Jr. boxing is about more than speed. what Roy did was all genetics and speed. not much in skill.
He wasnt that great.
boxing fundemantal are important to true boxing fans and Roy dosnt bring that he brings the genetic freak show with super speed. Understand that the average person no matter how much they train cant do what Roy did becaue it was based on genetics and not a matter of skill.
More amazing if he did all this with no boxing skillz. He's a GOAT
Then how can he be overrated? By your own admission he wasnt a great boxer, DESPITE his lack of fundamentals he went on to become a top 20 fighter all time one athleticism alone. Thats mindblowing to me! We will never sew another fighter with rjjs physical gifts. He is without question the most naturaly physically gifted fighter this sport has ever seen and there isnt a close second.
NO WONDER WHY YALL ALWAYS GET KO'D WHEN YALL TRY BOXING YALL THINK ITS JUST ABOUT SPEED OR POWER. TAKE NOTES FROM RONDA ROUSY
U don't know shit about boxing
Jax Wins is a shitty Mortal Kombat character
Now we get to see it!