Why is Furiosa Bombing?
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- Опубликовано: 21 сен 2024
- It appears Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga is the latest big budget property to become a Box Office Bomb. Despite a large marketing campaign, being a follow up to Fury Road, George Millers track record, recieving decent reviews and a cast consisting of Anya Taylor Joy and Chris Hemsworth it just doesn't look to be happening for Furiosa. Is it the cinemas to streaming pipeline? Is the movie late? Do people not care about the Mad Max universe? The answer is definitively in this review which came from our podcast The Weekly Planet. Thanks for listening
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"I'll wait for it on streaming" has cost the industry an unholy amount of money in the last few years. Box office culture is gone.
And there are a lot of people out there who dont care about the big screen experience and are just as happy watching it on a friggin phone. The movie going experience is becoming a niche market. Sad!
The idiots won and now we have to endure trash made for your cellphone instead of film made for the big screen
There’s a lot of mid to bad movies I would have seen in the cinema just a few years ago just because friends wanted to do something when going out/it was a good way to spend time.
In Ireland anyway, the cheapest cinema tickets have doubled in the last few years, so now it’s gotta be a film I really, really want to see to be worth it. Since I’m already paying for streaming services, I’m actually happier to see my money going to use there being justified by saving me money on cinema trips.
This is what I don’t get why make the streaming window so short? If the window is wider surely you will make more money and won’t lose out on that much when it comes to streaming
Make Dune or go home
Nowadays if you sink $100mil+ into a movie, it needs to be THE must-watch movie of the year or people will just wait for it to go on stream in 2 months.
Sounds like people aren’t willing to pay a little money for an amazing action movie experience in theaters. This movie was so good.
Truly missing out! This is the perfect theater movie! I’ve seen it twice already
@@Shlankyman545cgi was bad looks
Worse than fury road which came out what 2015
@@Shlankyman545a little money? Its expensive as hell to go to the theaters, especially if you have kids with you.
@@motionadapt1589True. Still a good movie.
Honestly, about the arm thing: I prefer how it happened. I'm sick of prequel movies making a big deal out of every little thing (think: Solo). Sometimes things just happen. She lost her arm in one of her many battles. It's that simple.
I swear, if Godfather 2 were made today, they would have a scene where young Vito in Sicily owns a cat, then DeNiro would also find a stray cat later in the film and start petting it.
Sounds like an MCU level cop out by uncreative writers
If I’m correct, she first got her arm mangled by something outside the driver’s window. This set up some plausibility for her to yank it off dangling from the truck. That’s a nice set up, nothing like that ridiculous Solo nonsense. (RE: Solo, If it had been Luke, it would have been ‘This young man seems ready to go stepping and leaping between the stars. Hmmm, Luke… Sky - Walker. (Thunderous applause and awards. Ron Howard receives the honorary Most Celebrated Hack award.) I’d love if they revealed the immigration guy had actually had had the same exchange with everyone coming through alone, and named thousands of people Solo.)
I get what you mean but someone losing an arm, especially in a post-apocalyptic world, would be a life-altering moment so it would have to be a significant plot point (though not necessarily THE main plot point).
@@whodatboi2567 I haven't seen it yet, but this sounds like a Nick Fury eye moment.
A few years ago I was at a film festival for the reveal of a paramount film. After the movie ended, a group of PR people came out and instructed us all to stand while they also pointed to the director of the film (who was in the audience). No one told us to clap, but the social engineering of the situation was pretty clear. So we all stood and clapped until the director indicated it was fine for us to stop and sit back down. Later this was reported as a 9 min standing ovation.
That's extremely weird. I've always found those 9min+ standing ovations at festivals like Cannes odd.
If it wasn’t all a charade already…!
@@Missjunebugfreakwith film fests like Cannes, the standing ovation last so long because they clap during the credits as a way to celebrate everyone who contributed to the film.
What was the movie
You'd have to drag my corpse to a film festival 😂😂 I can't think of anything outside of fashion shows more pretentious.
18 dollars a single ticket is extremely overpriced, Thats more than some people make an hour,
You know what they say... A quick way to check how your economy is doing is by looking at the price of a movie and the price of a burger. I used to see a movie for 4 bucks and get a burger for a dollar. In 20 years, our currency has been devalued almost 500%
Lmao try $29 for an imax ticket in NYC
Ah, so ticket price was not standard. Daamn, 18 bucks. In philippines it cost 15 dollars. Crazy expensive. I don't think people want to pay that much, haha. Theater was almost empty. Movie is great tho, trailer was terrible. In Croatia it costs like 5 dollars.
@@TheNotoriousMrDee Its insane, A bag of chips and a coke ends up being 12 dollars in some places. Imagine working an hour and at the end of your shift your boss hands you a Can of coke and a Bag of doritos
Where are you paying 18 dollars a ticket?
This was worth seeing at the theater for the sound alone. The sounds of the engines just made my chest vibrate. It was awesome.
i was about to say. seeing this in one of two theatres with the souped up dolby sound system in my area was worth it. hearing cars like, audibly pass by and bullet whizz was awesome.
That right there is why I definitely do NOT want to see it at a theater.
@synnical77 It was loud, but not too loud. It's a drag when they overdo it. Had just the right ammount of low end for you to feel the engines.
Now I want to see the film in the theater. Seriously.
The rumble of the bike in the opening chase scene sort of became the soundtrack, and it was so menacing and suspenseful. The motor sounded kind of janky, but that gave it this galloping, propulsive feeling. I just love the sound in this movie.
Needing results of $400 million to break even is obviously the problem for a lot of studios but none seem to want to address it.
The box office has changed and it’s time people started to accept that.
Good, 400 million dollar movies don't even look better than 40 million dollar movies... They waste the budget
Mad max fury road made just under 400 million, thing is 400 million to break even isint a huge number when compared to most blockbusters, I honestly thought this movie would end up making around the same as fury road but now it seems like it’s going to make a lot less than that
This is the exact same thing that is killing the gaming industry.
It doesn't help that they can't really rely on DVD sales anymore. Like Matt Damon said in his Hot Ones interview, if a movie didn't do well initially in theaters, you could still make your money back on the home release, but now everything goes to streaming, so then the only people paying for the movie are the streaming sites that only need to pay once to stream it indefinitely.
This movie is good enough quality to break even. Which is why I do not understand why it’s doing so poorly. I am not sure what the online perception of this film was going in - that often can destroy a good film.
Genuinely breaks my heart it's not doing well. I want The Wasteland before Miller goes, a genuine conclusion to the most influential post-apocalypse saga would be awesome.
It’s no longer a saga though. The original three had some resemblance to a progression in what happened. But Fury Road pretty much breaks that and we have moved into an undefined future wasteland that isn’t linked to the old world anymore. Hence why people started to come up with theories about Mad Max, because it doesn’t fit into a single saga anymore.
So yeah, in a nutshell, there was nothing built up that could be concluded. Mad Max has progressed towards a story type (the lonesome cowboy enters town trope from westerns) rather than a connected story or saga.
Maybe even the reason why Miller abandoned Mad Max for Furiosa, so he could tell some kind of overarching saga with her.
Same for me. I saw the movie over the weekend and it was amazing but my theater wasn’t even half full. I get why ppl don’t go to the movies anymore, and most of the stuff is trash tbh, but when a genuinely great movie flops it’s extra sad. Miller makes these movies himself tho so I’m hoping he’s able to make a third one. He’ll probably have to do it on a reduced budget tho
Probably not n it be to late u can’t piss on a brand fans then be like my bad n go back to normal like other brands like ghostbusters n Star Wars n marvel if u kill the brand fan most likely won’t come back
@@davidgantenbein9362 I disagree. I think the fact that the world has progressed is exactly what the series is building to. I think that the progress of a post-apocalyptic society is a throughline that runs through every movie and only ramps up in the Furiuology. Dementus makes a big speech at the end of Furiosa about how what came before is unreclaimable and madness is the driving force of the world. Max in Fury Road says that the only answer to that madness is to fix what's broken, to take the resources available and make something better now instead of trying to reclaim the lost. What does that lead to? Where does that go? What becomes of the Citadel once the water is shared, what would the Wasteland look like with a powerful, altruistic faction lead by Furiosa ruling it? What sort of world is to come? These are the questions I want to (and will never) see answered, and I feel they're very much thematically built up in the two movies.
@@ComicsFromScratch That’s not a Mad Max saga for me, that’s just a Fury Road successor adding to the story of Furiosa. But yes, that’s something you most likely won’t get.
But then again, you had really slim chances to get that as Miller decided to not move forward in time with this movie, showing that he probably isn’t interested in that part of the story (the rebuilding part).
Saw it last night - thought it was fantastic. The convoy attack sequence stood out. The assault on the Bullet Farm also great. And then, in sharp contrast, the one on one ending. Not what I was expecting but still impressive.
Watch in IMAX for the real sound design.
Yea ngl the ending was pretty disappointing to me as well. Other wise it is very well done
The War Rig chase was one of the greatest action sequences i have ever seen.
Which version? There have been four now.
@harbl99 the one in Furiosa, with the paragliders using explosive spears.
@@PranavanathanYoganathanI haven't seen an action sequence that good since Fury Road. George Miller is the only person who can outdo George Miller.
Agreed, nothing tops that afterwards
@@lolusuck386gonna sound silly saying this but I didnt even know george miller directed the original mad maxs, that man was so ahead of his time with the 1st 2, part 2 out doing the first in every way just like fury road and furiosa
Tickets are too damn expensive. It's such a shame bc I love Miller and Mad Max, but $40 for 2 movie tickets? Suck my bawls.
That's my thoughts as well. I'm not spending triple what I spend at home with streaming services on a single that doesn't even have the character I want to see in the movie.
Bawls energy drink
Where do you even live? A 2D movie ticket in my country costs $6 and that's without discounts promos.
Only cost £5 in the UK
Bout what it costs for me too
Can't say I'm that surprised. As Variety put it, it's "a prequel spin off for a side character that doesn't have Mad Max in it and doesn't even have the same actress that played the side character in the first place"'. It's come out 10 years after Fury Road and that movie was hardly a juggernaut itself, even though it was generally very popular with the people that watched it. It's also post covid and people are getting pretty jaded with sequels and prequels.
People have to remember fury road didn’t do that well theatrically
Yea because it was a massive insult to mad max fans.
No, because there aren't a lot of Mad Max fans to begin with.
@@MatiZ815 what all the mad max sequels have been is he’s driving and find oppressed people and helps them then drives away.
Fury Road was misplaced Oscar hype. It was the third worst movie out of the first four.
How is in a insult to Mad Max fans? Its a fresh story for a fresh audience and newer era, if anything it got more people back into it@@Dead_Goat
Why is Furiosa bombing? Because nobody has the energy to go to the cinema, nobody has the time to go to the cinema, nobody has the money to go to the cinema. That's the case in England, at least.
Then why they went to see Godzilla x Kong if they have no energy, time or money?
This argument gets destroyed when you see the box office performance of things like Godzilla, Spider-Man,Apes etc
People do still go to the movies if it's something that interests them. This simply didn't.
The economy isn't to blame here. For many it is, but not the majority. People will scrape money when it's something that genuinely interests them
@@captainronliveswe save for movies we want genius
I'm currently saving for deadpool as we speak
Cinemas here have been fairly cheap since covid. Most never really re raised their prices
@@Randomaccount9470 saving ? To watch a movie at the cinema 😂. I know things are tight but a movie ticket = saving. You might need to get your life together more and mine isn’t exactly great but it’s not “saving”
For a movie ticket bad
I appreciate how they showed how Immortan Joe has basically figured out how to rule in the wasteland.
Idk man I feel like the marketing didn’t do this movie any favors. The ads I saw just looked cheap and ugly compared to prior movies, and I also wasn’t really interested in those
I was of the same mind. The trailers really didn't sell this film very well. Too bad. It's a really good film.
The trailers made it look like an awful movie. Even now I'm still dubious over people claiming it's a real good movie
@@EmanthebaldHave you seen it? I thought the trailers were trash, but I ended up liking it a lot
Whaaattt??? The first Furiosa trailer is HYPE AF
I really think something's got to change with the film marketing industry because over the past five years so many good films with huge budgets have just had the worst trailers. I don't know what's happening in trailer houses, if they've developed a really strict formula that's just stopped being interesting or if they're working on ridiculous deadlines that force them to make trailers quickly rather than well, but film trailers have just been terrible.
Two big things; prices for theaters keep rising to outrageous proportions, and dealing with an audience who is loud and on their phone makes it not worth it. At this point my experience at home is now infinitely better.
I went out and enjoyed this movie but this is the second movie I’ve seen in theaters this year. 5 years ago I would have probably seen 10 films by June.
I haven't been to the theater since 2022 when I saw The Batman opening night, which was so worth it to see on the big screen, alot of these movies coming out just don't interest me or it's just too expensive to go see a movie
The theatre experience sucks balls for me nowadays. I sat next to a family of morbidly obese people who smelled like ass cheese and were all slurping and snarfing snot like they had sinus infections. I came so close to puking in my bag of popcorn. People who shouldn’t be out in public always end up going to the same showtimes as me. Better to stay home and watch.
LOL this is an incredibly long-winded way to say "I hate people"
@TheTrueNarthumpulous very true, even our movies have been compromised for the most part, identity politics and social justice bs used to be reserved for the fringe indie films now it's infected big mainstream movjes
@@irishspagetti6565 social justice has never been on the fringes of filmmaking you just dont know much about film history
people can't afford tickets these days... that said, if any movie within the last 2 years is worth watching in theater, it was this one.
How about the Dunes?
This film is GOOD
Thinking about why I didn't run out and see it: I'd like to, my family isn't particularly interested though, so it's this "wait for streaming" deal for me. And that's probably some of what's going on.
That happened with me. My wife wasn’t interested in it so I decided to just wait for it to come to streaming.
so go see it by yourself. if its not something my family likes i still go see it
Can you not go solo?
Go. Great cinema experience
Why not just go see it yourself? Break free from the dependency on others
"Why is big franchise film not doing well at the box office?"
"Why is entertaining film not doing well at the box office?"
"Why is beautifully made film not doing well at the box office?"
I think it's become clear that box office performance has very little to do with the actual interest in or quality of the film and much more to do with how audiences watch films. It's not that nobody is going to the cinema to see this film, it's that nobody is going to the cinema.
To be fair... those two things don't have to be mutually exclusive.
It's just that we've gotten such a sheer amount of low quality that people just don't care about movies anymore, so even a "good" movie now needs to overcome a massive hill of apathy and outright-hostility towards the movies industry that the public has gotten because of behavior the last few years.
I've got an 80inch tv and popcorn maker and kids. The kids make it too hard to get out and the tv makes it so it's not that bad anyway
It's not the quality of the film, it's the expectation of a garbage film because that's all Hollywood produces now
That's not true. I saw Dune 2 in theaters because there's no other way to see it. It's too well made to stream it. If you want me to see your movie in theaters, make it as good as Dune 2
@@papabird4425 There are always going to be exceptions, things that break through the reluctance to go to cinemas, but an industry cannot survive on Dune 2s alone. And I don't just mean not everything can be that good, Dune 2 is a ridiculously expensive film to make, and if we're being honest you need that budget to make that film. Not every film can have that cast, or those effects, or that cinematography, the sets, the costumes, all the things that make that film so incredible. Mid budgets films need to have a chance to succeed and they just don't.
See this in IMAX today and it was absolutly amazing... I haven't seen Fury Road yet, but I'm so watching it this weekend after seen this.
I can't believe anyone want to see this film with that having previously seen fury road That's why wild.
This movie is way more niche than it lets on.
As well as its predecessor, I really like Tom Hardy and I genuinely had no interest despite following all the movie pages that told me it was worth watching. I never heard about the movie anywhere else, not in person or random chats with strangers.
@@Super_Broly Fury Road was flippin awesome, so it got a wider audience. Furiosa not so much.
@@jeremiahdillard9201 Let me guess, it's WOKE?! Am I right?
@@interdimensionalsteve8172 Woke or not, I asked a few people and they weren't interested in a Mad Max movie without Mad Max
@@interdimensionalsteve8172it’s not woke at all lol it’s a great follow up
Not enough teal and orange: 4/10
Lol I watched saltburn recently and I stg the cinematographer for that movie mustve been straight outta film school because that movie had the most ridiculous overuse of teal and orange Ive seen
lol
@@ZiroWatt Saltburn was shot on film, lol. And it was barely even orange / teal, it had pretty natural film properties in terms of color. It's not Transformers by any means
@@Rogeras32 transformers is like the most egregious yeah lol but saltburn being shot on film has nothing to do with it, they still color grade digitally. Also its definitely not naturalistic, Ford V Ferari is a beautiful naturalistic looking movie, Saltburn tries to make every college dorm room as teal and orange as they can push it
A lot of people have mentioned not having money in the states…this is true…when Biden has given more money to Ukraine than most countries spend on their defense budgets…when Biden has aided and abetted 10 million illegals into the country…essentially turning the US into the soup kitchen for the rest of the world…all the whole inflation is going through the roof and the gov is handing out food ax payers money like it’s their own. You wonder why people can’t afford to go to the movies. A family of 4 is looking at $80 for tickets alone throw in popcorn and sodas and it’s $120 for a family to go to see a movie…yeah that’s why everyone is streaming…but no trash the movie guys
They waited almost a decade to make a prequel to fury road without max
If this came out 2 years after it probably would've slayed
But after 9 years we'd rather just have a proper mad max movie
12:58 Dementus keeps saying things like "cease and desist" and "malcompliance", he's also very articulate if he wants to be - I think he might've been a lawyer in the world before.
I think it's because of the History Man that he uses as a thesaurus, he learns all these words so that he can sound smarter than he actually is.
It's possible. Toecutter definitely had some higher education, and Immorten Joe was a general pre-war and used his knowledge of how to manipulate soldiers to gain power.
@@gregallan4291yeah, I took it as him trying to give himself the appearance of superiority and intelligence, because in reality he was quite dumb 😆
@@nav579 Exactly
The trailer for Furiosa said the events take place 45 years after the collapse. Dementus would have been at almost 80 if he were to have been a lawyer in the times before the Wasteland
Because for good or ill we are over saturated with entertainment. There are more places to watch content. Tv streaming, RUclips, social media. Most produced tv programs have budgets equivalent to theatrical movies, and there is much more variety. Movies in theaters are now like expensive theme parks.
This is such a good point. I don't watch many new movies anymore because my time for entertainment is limited. Instead, I follow podcasts and streamers who watch new movies (like The Weekly Planet), and that's how I consume new media. If they make it sound interesting enough, then I add it to the endless list of future viewing options, but I have little desire to rush out and see anything in theaters.
@@piquabear5702 Back in the day when everyone except me was watching GoT, my friends gave me a weekly recap on Discord. I called it watching GoT via "oral tradition" lol. Now that's how I basically consume all new media - through lads on the Internet talking about how good or bad it is. Feels like it shouldn't be this way, but it's free and saves me time, so.
Also Disney had a massive hand in killing the theater industry. You have to do exactly as they say or you don't get any of their movies at your theatre which accounts for over half the market and most popular movies.
They demand higher cuts of ticket revenue and that films stay on for a minimum amount of time with several screens running even if nobody is going to see them. So they have to jack up prices on everything to stay in business or just completely collapse if they don't comply with Disneys model.
I do think people were expecting Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga to be the same type of film as Mad Max: Fury Road, just more of the same. When it really, really isn't. The former is a revenge epic which takes its time to tell a story which leads into the latter, which is a frenetic adrenaline fuelled action story. The context of the latter just further emphasises the reason for the intense nature of the former.
In short Furiosa: A Mad Max Saga is not only a great film in and of itself, but it makes Mad Max: Fury Road better.
They are both woke poop😂
It's the same move its "car goes boom".
Didn't Fury Road start out slow as well, and over the course of the Summer, it gained popularity as word-of-mouth spread about how awesome it actually was, and millions of people who had never heard of MadMax before became immersed. This movie wasn't as fantastic as FuryRoad but it was still very interesting.
It's nothing as complicated as streaming or even money, though going to the movies has gotten absurdly expensive. It's as simple as, "A Mad Max movie should have Mad Max in it." No-fucking-duh.
It says “A Mad Max Saga” right before the name of the protagonist. It was clear from the start it was a spin off. Would’ve people watched it if it was only named Furiosa?
@@burgerandy2729 Nobodys watching anyway lolol
They had single handedly the worst advertising campaign I’ve ever seen. All of their ads looked goofy and had a very cg look to them. I get the feeling that anyone who saw the ads for the movie pretty much thought it wasn’t going to be any good from those ads alone. However if you look at the current reviews for the movie, it says the opposite. 8/10 from IMDb, 90% from rotten tomato’s, and over 4/5 from audiances. By all means it looks like a good movie, it’s just that I doubt it’s ad campaign did it any favors, and sure as hell didn’t get anyone who hadn’t seen a mad max movie to want to start with this one.
I saw it despite the ads, not because of them. Hemsworth in particular gave me weird vibes in the trailer, but ended up being one of the best parts
I’m getting sick and fed up of seeing folks having a goofy time in the nuclear apocalypse
I don't know who's paying these advertising companies, but they should all demand refunds. Modern adverts are mostly terrible - either making the product look worse then it is (aka, the opposite effect they were going for), annoying the intended customer base or being so full of spoilers you don't need to watch the movie.
I thought it was going to be a mini series on HBO max until I saw a movie poster for it when I took my daughter to see The Fall Guy. Which is already out On Demand.
@@jiovanysoltero923that’s mad max’s whole shtick though
I saw exactly one commercial for this movie at work, and my coworkers not only had not heard of it, but the consensus seemed to be "How are you going to do Mad Max without Max?"
If someone wanted to go see it with me I would probably go, I liked Fury Road, but I would have probably been more interested in it had it come out NOT A DECADE LATER.
Comment above yours from@Emanon... They are watching it tonight. Maybe you guys live in the same city? :D
But.... Mad Max isn't even the main character of Fury Road.
And that came out 3 decades after last movie.
Mad Max had more screen time than anyone else. He’s the main character.
@@omega1397yeah, mad Max isn't the main character in the movie named after him.😂
He isn’t, Monkeytheluffy
Its biggest problem is that its a prequel so the stakes are muted and Fury Road already exists so this was never going to have the "wow" factor.
Still, solid 8 out of 10. More people should go watch it.
Absolutely. I was always worried, that the prequel aspect might hurt this one. Now I personally think, that they did the best prequel they could. They didn't fall into too many annoying prequel traps, it still felt like its own movie, but yeah. The stakes aren't really there.
Of course it doesn't help that it's longer and drags more. Fury Road was an adrenaline snack, I watched it 4 times in the cinema cause it blew me away everytime and the runtime just flew by. Furiosa I've seen once...might give it a second go, but honestly maybe I'm not motivated enough, although I did quite like it.
The market for this movie was fucking terrible.
Thank you! Yes, the trailers are awful
I thought it was going to be a mini series on HBO max until I saw a movie poster for it when I took my daughter to see The Fall Guy. Which is already out On Demand.
"marketing"
Yep. I saw a trailer YESTERDAY that featured the guitar riff from The Man Who Sold The World as a ridiculous bombastic Fury Road theme. I hurt my eyes from rolling them too hard.
I never saw any trailers.
It's not really complicated, the trailers make it look like the same exact thing as Fury Road. People are saying why would I pay to see this when I've already seen it?
Whenever Max isn't onscreen everybody should be saying "Where's Max?!"
Alot of people are tired of the "Franchise IP Character Movie" without the franchise character in it or sidelined. 🤷🏾♂️
Yep
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Except Furiosa (the character) is not less interesting than Max. In MM2 he has only 16 lines of dialogue (heard that on a youtoob vid somewhere!) and in FR he's just grunting. The absence of Max wasn't an issue for me. But that's me - a fan of the series.
The casual movie goer needs the big name
@@telarr9164 so why did the movie flop then?
@@MajerHawknews flash, even fury road wasn't a box office hit
we went thru a decade of nonsense with George Miller not getting his deserved bonus and instead of giving us Mad Max 2 they give us a prequel..... we want Hardy.
Financial burnout (graduation, mother's day, and other social events might have also played into this) is probably the main factor for putting up a PREQUEL for "maybe I'll watch it later" syndrome
Brazilian guy here that lived in Australia for 5 years, and I can confirm that the "80's" aussie accent is still around for sure!
Oh it's definitely still around, like Hemsworth's grandfather. But no one growing up today will sound like that, it's definitely used by older folk
Moarty weef gawt ta goew to Bendigo
Prices for movie tickets now a days are genuinely absurd. Imagine having a family and wanting to go see something, you’d be spending 50-60 on the tickets alone
Guess that depends where you live really because a family of 4 can get tickets for £24 where I am.
On weekends and school holidays its closer to half that.
The Bullet Farmer is not the same actor as in Fury Road. Richard Carter, the original Bullet Farmer, died in 2019.
They didn't hammer while the iron was hot.
Would've been an instant hit if it came out a few years after.
I'm watching it tonight. Looking forward to it. Crazy popcorn action flick!
Warner bros are too busy not paying George Miller to make the sequel
I think these films just aren't that popular to a very wide audience. There was 4 people in the theater when I saw this on a Friday Night. I remember going to Fury Road on opening night, when people used to go to movies more, and there was only about 10 people then too. I personally love them, but this is the second time now that this Fury Road saga is probably going to lose money.
You won't be disappointed. Imo, while not 'as good' as Fury Road, it is still a great movie with a compelling storyline and some amazingly creative visuals and stunts. It's a welcome addition to the Madmax universe.
@@shawnmyer2747 I thought it was better than Fury Road in several places.
I thought it was not very good.
I don't know why you'd make a high-budget Mad Max film. It seems like the ideal story to be a low-budget 'Ozploitation' film, which of course it originally was. The setting can be pretty much anywhere in the wilderness that's flat enough for cars. No one has to have long lines. Everything is meant to look crappily slapped-together.
I haven't seen The Rover with Robert Pattinson (I don't think anybody has) but the trailer looks to me like it's the perfect Mad Max prequel if you really wanted some lore and world building.
Seeing the bullet farm or the nudes in Gas town just made the world feel smaller like the boys said. I love the vibe that FR had: "Everywhere is equally fucked, but the story we're telling just happens to take place in Australia."
Idc about the people who ended the world, idc about the details, I just want a compelling story to take place where V8s and vehicular combat looks incredible in the post-apocalyptic outback.
Furiosa has about the same budget as Fury Road...
@@TechnologicallyTechnical there are multiple reports on what the budget was and they are not being 100% truthful when it comes to it. Originally there was a few articles saying Furiosa actually had a 260 million $ budget. and some saying it was 160$ but judging by the MASSIVE amount of CGI it was 260$.
So almost double Fury Road.
Also Garfield has 100% more people going to see it with 100$ million box office compared to the 50$ million with Furiosa.
I fully agree, fury road alsp looked too slick and not wild enough. The filming quality should be imperfect to make it gritty. Give five crazy directors 2 million dollars to shoot a movie and choose the best one.
"It's furiosa, not furiosa" as Hermione would say.
Almost all movies have been bombing the last couple of years, unfortunately. It’s a mixture of the theater being too expensive and nobody wanting to leave their houses anymore
Not that anyone would know, but there was a brief period after the vaccines rolled out when movie tickets were not only affordable but you could reliably go to see a movie without someone shitting their pants within 10 feet of you in the theater
I'd watch 3 more Furiosa movies if they were as good as this one
One thing that people don't necessarily take into account with these results is that several of the studios are still prioritizing their streaming services over theatrical releases. So, they view these releases as a way to recoup some, but not necessarily all, of the costs of making the movie. If they spend $150 million making a movie, and they can net $75-100 million from the box office, it's essentially a lower cost for the content they've created for Max (or whatever service). As long as the box office returns are more than their advertising budget, they are coming out ahead. Compare this strategy to Netflix, who is shelling out $200 million for garbage like The Grey Man or Red Notice...not giving them theatrical releases at all and just eating the entire cost. I'm sure the studios would love to make a profit on the theatrical release, but they don't look at it as they NEED to.
Man movie theaters really getting cooked
They priced everyone out of going to the movies
@DNDaMD luckily I got a Cinemark. It's cheap af
Dune Part Two and Planet of the Apes were huge hits, movie theatres are fine.
@DNDaMD seems like everyone only wants to make stuff for rich people.
@@jool5941 And how expensive is streaming exactly?
This might just be me, but when Dementus was being introduced i was so excited for a dystopian/sci-fi retelling of ancient history with scavenged tech. Dementus unknowingly re-enacting the history of Gengis Khan seemed like such an awesome set up for a story in this world. The torture/executions/speeches lent into it too.
If i had the chance to write a Mad Max movie, id love to take the "those who forget history" to an artistic extreme, because ancient history is horrifying, mad, borderline unbelievable and violent, yet still reveals something about human nature because its real. A biker horde rolling into isolated towns in a dangerous world with minimal guns and rundown tech would be awesome.
A re-telling of a true historical event but transposed into this universe would be incredible, because its so alien to our thankfully privileged 21st century, yet the hostility and unpredictability of the Mad Max world is probably how our ancient ancestors felt about it.
My belief is that more and more people are reliant on streaming and dodgy fire sticks these days.
I think the real fury road were the friends we made along the way
Maybe the strategy is to keep doing prequels until its just a movie about office workers doing office stuff.
As someone who is basically in the target audience: I don't go to movies much and it's a prequel.
I don't know. I absolutely loved it. Sure its not as good as the _great_ Fury Road, and it's a bit baggy in a couple of spots, but it's sooo much fun, the performances are great, and it looks and sounds fantastic. Plus, there are three brilliant action sequences in it that are on par with those in Fury Road.
Easily, a few reasons:
1. It's a prequel, with a character who we all know survives to Fury Road and beyond. Bad idea of telling an origin story.
2. Replacing Charlize Theron with another actress who doesn't even look like her. This is another "Solo" situation.
3. The movie looks like it uses way too much CGI and it looks WORSE than Fury Road. Mad Max films are famous for their practical effects/stunts and if those are being replaced with noticeable CGI/green screen, then that will hurt the film.
Do you not know what the word prequel means? Lol of course she survives, just as max survives every film lmao
@@HDD1234-h4o We did not know going in that mad max will survive the altercation and side quests he comes across.
However we did know that mad maxipad would survive everything.
@@Dead_Goat thats again, quite literally the entire point of a prequel dude. Obviously she survives if it is a fucking prequel... do you understand the concept of a prequel? god damn the red pill community is braindead. Go get a woman to love you and come back to me please
the movie is great fun. there is no denying that. these box office highlights need to be re-examined or re-evaluated for 2024. everyone i know, and then some, want to watch or re-watch this movie.
Everyone I went with enjoyed the film and at least one agreed he needed to watch Fury Road now. It’s not the quality of the film to blame for audiences not getting in seats.
This film has not been heavily advertised in the US. Also, its not really the franchise WB thinks it is
I see it literally every single day.
There’s your answer right there, mad max is not a franchise 😂
@@danjquiroz I saw one advert on youtube when I went to my mom's. Literally saw nothing in Iowa about it, didnt even know it came out this week tbj
@@parkmannate4154 Yeah, but that's Iowa. You're five years behind the rest of the country.
I have seen countless Garfield ads, not one of this movie. Honestly thought it was a streaming mini series at first.
I just watched and it was Fantastic. Fury road is a 9 and Furiosa an 8 that bumps Fury Road to a 10. Really great movie. Will watch again.
Don’t stress it’ll be a cult classic in 10 years when you’ll all be yearning for the days of VideoEzy and free to air television.
Mad Max is a strange franchise, outside a few of the originals, they don't really do well at the box office, however despite their lack of box office success, they have a surprisingly massive cultural impact, every wasteland movie or piece of media will take inspiration from Mad Max franchise.
I think the answer is simple. Mad Max is a cult franchise with a niche audience and they've reduced the size of their audience even further by making a Mad Max movie without the main character.
They killed the audience for mad max movies with fury road. What little was left was just finished off with this trash mary sue flick.
We dont want mad maxine we want mad max in a mad max movie.
@@Dead_Goat I like how being as competent and dangerous as the average male action hero character is "Mary Sue" when it's a woman.
@Dead_Goat 👶👶👶
Thoroughly enjoyed it. It was a nice contrast to Fury Road because it was slower paced and gave us more story. The end credits were a weird choice. I thought two things. First, as a way to tell us that there won’t be a direct sequel with Anya and second, it was telling us to go watch Fury Road, the better movie. It just needed the HBO Max logo to pop up somewhere.
Yeah, same here. Fury Road is great partially because it's such a concise focused movie while Furiosa is more of a big operatic revenge tragedy. I don't think it's quite as good as Fury Road but it's still great and I think people are missing out.
Furiosa should have been its own thing... not crammed into the madmax mythos. A mad max movie that isn't about mad max is a travesty.
5 things that would've helped the movie generate better box office:
1. Shooting practically which was the biggest appeal of the Mad Max franchise being so thrilling to watch.
2. Having an appearance from Max and utilizing him in the story to attract all the fans of the franchise.
3. Going foward with a sequel to progress the story rather than exploring a backstory that no-one was ever asking for.
4. Taking the Nolan approach of shooting on 35mm instead of digital so the movie looks expensive, cinematic and timeless.
5. Charlize Theron made Furiosa her own in the same way that Mel did with Max so recasting is naturally going to put less bums on seats.
A Mad Max sequel with Charlize as Furiosa and Mel as Max would make for a huge opening weekend.
Going to a movie now with my wife is about a $100 experience, for tickets and babysitter alone. Plus the energy it takes to arrange it… we only go out to see the movies we’re desperate to see (eg, Across the Spiderverse).
We don’t go out on a whim. Maybe one day…
Add on snacks and gas and you’re looking at 150. Just to go see a movie. It’s not at all worth it anymore.
Meanwhile, you can get an entire streaming catalog of movies for a fraction of the price. Going to the theaters needs to be worth it and with the vast majority of movies, it's not worth the trouble.
This is exactly why we barely go to the movies.
It’s expensive.
Wages aren’t getting any higher and I’m not seeing any of those box office numbers.
Lower prices or deal with it! 🤷🏻♂️
@drunkenactionfigureunboxin5138 just fill your stomach at home man. Pay for the movie not the overpriced food.
My wife and I went to AMC to go see Fall Guy. Wanted to do the dinner version, so it was 40 dollars in tickets and 55 dollars in food. I got a burger, drink and popcorn, she got chicken nuggets, fries and a water. 95 dollars for 2 people to watch a movie and eat the food. 10 years ago that would've been 40 bucks or so. It's insane. Definitely a once a year thing.
I like Mad Max but I couldnt care less about a prequel to Fury Road/ Furiosa origin story. If this movie had Max in it and continued from Fury Road it wouldve performed better. Cost of living crisis aint exactly helping either
Completely agree
Max not being in it should not be deal breaker if you like the universe and action of Mad Max. The Fury Road sequel you want so badly probably won’t happen without this movie doing well. George Miller wanted to make the prequel to build more of world, then make the Fury Road sequel (The Wasteland) as the end of this trilogy.
Max wasn't even the main character of fury road. It's worth seeing. Not as good as fury road but pretty damn good
It's worth seeing. It also directly links the classic films with Fury Road.
The movie rocks
I saw it last weekend and honestly, it's a pretty fucking good movie. It deserves to be doing better.
On movie budgets: Godzilla Minus One was made for under $15 million and it looks great and was the best movie of last year. There is no reason why Hollywood can't reasonably keep their movies under a small budget and turn a profit.
I understand where you’re coming from about keeping the budgets manageable, but we need to not swing the pendulum all the way to crew putting in the same work in ‘black company’ conditions.
Because too many people think it's a Boss Babe movie, and it is not.
Also, a lot of people can't afford to go to a movie theater nowadays, but mostly I think it's the Boss Babe thing.
I haven't been to a cinema in 3 1/2 years, I bought an HD projector and stream at home.
Real shame. It's a pretty good movie.
What little marketing this movie had was trying really hard to convince people that it was in fact a boss babe movie
Except it is is a boss girl movie with a massive feminist agenda. No one wants mad maxine.
@@Dead_Goat Nah, you fuckin sheep just get triggered by female protagonists lmao
I speculate a large part of the reason behind the dismal box office may be due to the anger of people over a certain australian tricking people with the movie Joker in quizzes and that anger lead to a wish to punish all things australian and you can't be more australian than Mad Max.
Aw yes, the "Blue Harvest effect" I know it well
What are you talking about? lol
tf
I think a lot of it is that it opened on a Wednesday, it's a prequel in a series with a very loose timeline (Max and Furiosa are the same age, but Furiosa grew up in the green place and has no pre-war memories??), it isn't about the main character of said series nor does it have any of the leads from any of the previous films returning, and a lot of people just don't have time or money to go to the movies. It's like $10-15 for a ticket and you need to sell a kidney if you want concessions nowadays.
It probably would be doing better if it went straight to streaming, or if it came out a little closer to Fury Road. It's been about a decade since Fury Road came out, and there haven't been any really significant advances in filmmaking in that time like we saw in Fury Road. A lot of what got people to see it was the spectacle. It looked amazing on the big screen and filmmaking came a long way in the 30 years between Beyond Thunderdome and Fury Road. I still want to see it, but I'm not in a major hurry.
And frankly, Mad Max fans want to see Max. We want Max ripping through the wastes in his V8 Interceptor, not the angry lady from the last movie who had a backstory cooler than what we saw on screen.
We know how it's going to end because it's a prequel, and those haven't had a great track record, like ever. No one wants another Solo, y'know?
I went to see it last night after work. One ticket is a drop in the overall sales bucket, but I at least wanted to add one more!
It's quite a different movie than Fury Road, and a VERY different movie from the originals. Not in a bad way. I think he was trying to be a little more Euro-Arthousey with the chapters and jumps through Furiosa's life, but I'm no screenwriter, so I'm defintely using the wrong term. It's also slower and quieter in terms of in your face action, which I can get down with.
It's definitely a very unique movie in terms of the Mad Max franchise. I really enjoyed it still though.
I just saw it today. I thought it was great!! It's very different from the others in the series , but that's a good thing! All of the others have had a different feel from each other as well. So maybe... by being different to each of the others in the series , it is.. in fact... doing the same thing as the others in the series! by being different! Paradox! (sorry, I'll see myself out)
@@telarr9164 You're right! I never thought about it like that, but each of the five movies IS quite different in their own way.
Mel’s not driving that tanka
I saw a commercial for this the other day and for the first few seconds, i thought it was footage for a taco bell tie in, not actual footage from the film. It looks soooo cheap.
People are just generally not going to any movies in the numbers they used to, with a handful of the biggest movies being the exception. I'm sure the price of the ticket and food in todays economic landscape is a huge part of it. Also this should have come out closer to fury roads release
We’re fucking broke here in America
Yeah, this might be part of it. There might not be that many big successes at all this year. Dune, Deadpool, maybe Despicable Me are probably going to be the biggest box office successes.
@@thetramp123 You gotta remember though success doesn’t always mean a billion dollars, we gotta also let these movies get legs
@@codybischoff1010but they have to perform well in their first few weeks and those are the only movies with a chance of doing well out of the gate. Joker 2 is probably in the same boat but the musical aspect seems to be a turn off for some people.
On top of the economic factors, alot of people are done giving money to an industry that actively insults them 90% of the time.
to everyone here. watch this movie. its one of the most precise crafted pieces of work i have ever seen. the editing by margret sixel and georges camera is so outstanding
It really is exceptional. The fact that chuds are deliberately denying themselves such a fantastic movie because "eww, female lead" is a damning indictment of our culture.
Its not. the movie is terrible. Just another boss girl feminist trash can of a waste of money.
I think its a mixture of a couple things
1) economy
2) nobody asked
3) people are getting sick of the 'girl boss' troupé
4) alot of the mad max fans are dads in their 40s or 50s
Fury Road was praised and beloved for the practical effects. They still had practical in this but I hate the obvious green screens.
I think I read that they had to use more CGI on backgrounds due to bad weather messing with the terrain? Could be wrong tho
there were a number of janky VFX which one would not expect after Fury Road.
@@thatginger6839It wouldn't be a problem if it was good CGI...
Still look very very nice
@thatginger6839 The problem isn't CGI, the problem is *bad* CGI.
Fury Road used lots of CGI (with practical effects) but it wasn't noticeable in 99% of the time.
I heard if this Film bombs, the Future of the “Mad Max” films are in Trouble. So this isn’t great news.
Miller is almost 80 years old, so I doubt there was much of a future to begin with...
The future of furiosa films more like it.
Sorta glad. Less opportunity for them to screw up the franchise even further.
No one cares about the future of mad max films.
write something new.
We'll always have Fury Road. 💗
£16 for standard cinema seats is a hard sell when everyone is struggling.....
What fancy cinema are you going to? My local Vue’s only 7 quid for a standard seat
@@mrcritical6751 Probably that Laandan
Visited a vue cinema in Eastleigh, £4.99 seats for the cheapest ones.
@@2dradon2 Vue may be the worst cinema chain in the U.K., but they work for the prices they ask for
@@mrcritical6751 I strongly disagree, maybe it's just the one in your area? But the 3 Vues I have been to have been great.
GO SEE THIS FILM! Miller puts so much love in his works and you can feel it, I'm ok waiting a few years if this is the results.
Nope, Miller bait-and-switched me last time (Fury Road). I was expecting a Mad Max film; what I got was a femboss Furiosa film about women's empowerment.
At least this time he's being honest about it, but I have no interest in the slightest in watching another Mary Sue 45kg woman defeating her male adversaries in physical combat. It's pure cringe. A childish power fantasy that most men just find painful to watch. Mad Max is a male-oriented franchise. Have a look at what's happened to other male-oriented male-led franchises that swap the lead out for a female ... doesn't turn out so well for them mostly. Indiana Jones, Star Wars, Doctor Who, Star Trek, He-Man, and the list goes on. All a are shadow of what they once were, politicised and preachy, they have alienated their core audiences and for some reason the female audience they were expecting just hasn't shown up. Funny that, could it be that women don't really watch action franchises? Sure some do, but they are a minority of the female audience.
It's just a badly conceived idea; a film about a side-character that the bulk of the fanbase did not ask for, did not want, and do not really care that much about. Miller is free to make it, to pursue his vision, but I/we are free to not watch it.
Lol please tell me in what scene in Fury Road did furiosa beat her male counterpart in physical combat?
@@Lwydiusseek help, mate
@@Lwydius Incel alert.
Male-oriented franchise? Expected female audience? Wat
I loved how the cars had their own animal personalities in this one. The scene where Not Madthew Max uses the backhoe side arms to climb up during the chase felt like a Kong Skull Island skullcrawler rearing up. When Dementus uses his monster truck to climb over another car, it's like he's eating it.
Movie is good, theatres are dying! Every big movie is pulling quarter size right now. Every movie, even the kid ones that usually slay.
Even the kid ones that usually slay lmao. You’re hilarious in the way you word things 😂
With the way ticket prices have risen, taking the kids to the theater is a hassle now. It used to be a cheap form of entertainment for the whole family but they priced families out.
It's really sad, honestly. I've been to the cinema many times the last couple of years, and the theatre has never been more than 20% full, no matter what type of movie I was watching. On several of them, me and my sister were the only ones there.
Such a bummer, it's such a great movie.
It’s obviously a good movie but I think they greatly overestimated how interested people are in the character of Furiosa.
In my opinion, the biggest issue is really the price of food. A bucket of popcorn and two sodas cost $22. That's more than a ticket, I was charged about $12 for ultrascreen at a AMC mind you. I also think it's a busy time, lots of big movies out, plus Memorial Day weekend is generally a time people take to chill out. There's really a lot of variable that worked against the theater, on top of a shifting movie watching culture. If Miller does do a specific Mad Max prequel film, then I'd like to see that transition from what was in the original Mad Max, to Mad Max 2. Basically showing how desperate people got having no access to power, food, or water.
Don't conflate issues. The general public has virtually no interest in this incredibly niche world. The only real touchstone is Mad Max himself. Take away Mad Max and you've now got an even more niche title. People still go to theater worthy things. Deadpool vs Wolverine is the only big thing in the next couple of months that the general theater audience really cares about. That will prove or disprove this theory about price of tickets/food being the main factor...
I'll conflate what I like thank you very much.
It doesn’t look interesting at all. It looks like nothing different than another girl boss movie.
When I clicked on this video I swear it's true.. the commercial that came up first was for Furiosa... "The BEST MOVIE of The YEAR!" 🤨😆😂😂😝
It’s one of the best prequels ever made. It never felt like it was struggling to get all the pieces in place for Fury Road and it never felt like a chore or obligation to sit through.
you are wrong.
@@SuperWindsage oh
I had been chomping at the bit for this movie, as I ADORE Fury Road. I spent over $50 for: 2 tickets (me and the wife), 1 medium soda and 1 box of snacks. For some people, that's almost half a days pay. Theaters are dying, no matter the quality of the movies. Anything less than I movie I HAVE to see, I just wait for streaming, where I can watch in the comfort of my home for $6.
Because she's not Mad Max. Because nobody asks for prequels to established characters.
Because the Internet is not reflective of sane reality.
Dude, its the end of the month, we normal people are broke. No money, no going to the cinema
Sounds like a spending issue. I’m normal as fuck and had $14 to see this fantastic movie.
@@Shlankyman545I’m also normal as fuck and can’t afford to drop that
@@Shlankyman545"I'm living in my parents basement with absolutely no cost of living, of course 14$ is nothing to me!"- you
1000% This. I legit told my friend "I can't go to this movie, I am fucking broke"
Can confirm. This year, even seeing Dune Part 2 was a struggle to plan and execute, pulled together by sheer willpower. Expenses do be expensive.
I quite liked Fury Road. Furiosa as a character was fine. Not really bothered about a Furiosa prequel though.
Apparently this film is decent. I'll watch on streaming at some point.
Yeah I was uninterested in a Furiosa prequel but went to see the movie because George Miller usually delivers. It's real good and I'd recommend seeing it, but I have a feeling that most people don't care about directors and choreographers, etc
i found it to be as good as fury road, but for different reasons
The movie is genuinely awful lol idk how people think it's good. Terrible story, bland performance from the main villain and main character, and horrendous pacing, like you are going to feel that 2hrs 30 mins dragging on.
If you liked Fury Road you'll probably like this one too. I'd probably recommend seeing it theater. It's the kind of movie that plays much better on a big screen in a theater with a rocking sound system.
@@lumbagoboi1649 Ain't no way someone who has actually seen Furiosa would call Hemsworth's performance bland. Like, I could understand someone maybe not liking it because he's really weird and at times even pitiful, but bland? No way.
No, the reason why furiosa didn’t make what it needed to make is why mission impossible didn’t make what it needed to make. They were both NEVER a billion dollar franchise.
It’s not about what they didn’t made but what it cost to make
We are broke, so movies can wait till they come on streaming 👍🏻!
Independent cinemas are cheap, see if u have any local
This is the real reason
@@EXFrost Speaking from the U.K. experience: my indie cinema is more expensive unfortunately; the chains are better priced, so long as you have a 2 for 1 voucher like Meerkat Movies. Hopefully going tomorrow tho
@@ealing456 also in uk and im near one where tickets are 3× cheaper than branch ones. Absolute steal. Guess it always depends where u are and deals soften the blow a bit
@@EXFrost that sounds great haha There was an indie cinema in Cardiff a few years back that had £3 tickets, everyday, all seats. That one was great. Until they closed....
The movie is great. More action, more world building and story, great cars, get to see some of the other major wasteland locations. The problem is PEOPLE ARE STRUGGLING FINANCIALLY, movie tickets can cost a lot, then if you want popcorn and a drink, even more expense. It should get the viewership when it hits streaming services. Ironic, in The Great Depression movie theatres got a lot of business because they were cheap entertainment people needed as distraction and escapism.
I think the answer for this is actually quite simple: NO ONE asked for this movie! It might be good but interest in a prequel of Furiosa’s story was not something that was ever in high demand and even if there was a small demand it largely diminished through the years. They would have been better off with a Mad Max sequel.
Me and my dad didn't like how it looked in the trailer shown to us before our movie started in the theatre. Solved it for you
Idk what they were thinking with the trailers. The movie itself looks way better.
Might be a couple of reasons. Some People might only tune in for Max. Some people might‘ve wanted to see Charlize, some people might be tired of ATJ already because she is basically cast in everything recently.
I for one am waiting for rental mainly because Chris Hemsworth‘s glued-on nose looks goofy as hell.
Yes, the nose was the reason to skip this, looks like too goofy comedy
@@BossBast1 Yeah the nose completely ruins everything. The plot, the action, all of it tainted by Dementus' ugly beak!
How is ANYONE tired of Anya Taylor-Johnson?
Hollywood doesn't diversify their roles, it's always the same 5-6 actors and actresses. I'm a fan of Anya as well
She's barely in any major movies, until recently. The menu, Netflix original that not everyone saw. Dune 2, for all of 10 seconds. People really just coming up with any excuse or just using this as an excuse to show how they feel about women, just say what you actually mean.
No Mad Max in a Mad Max film.
A prequel, so you already know what happened to her.
Strong independent women never turned up to watch a film made for them.
Mad Max without Mad Max.... why do people not want to watch the spin offs of remakes that don't have the characters they like?
It's not hard to understand. It's a Mad Max movie without Mad Max in it. Who wanted that?
Its like making an iron man movie and its just about wonder woman.
Yes, because the Mad Max movie with Mad Max in it was so successful.
@@MatiZ815well the originals are cult classics sooo…also even the Tom Hardy version did better than this garbage
@@ShockerTopper Being "cult classic" doesn't equal to being profitable.