Martha didn’t get time to grieve properly. It takes a long time to grieve death. But unfortunately she was all forced to it. I blame her friend for setting this program for Martha.
Agreed. Sara was so forceful. She didn't even give her time to recover from her trauma, and she keeps insisting for her to try it. And even if she denied, she still signed Martha up. That's just sick and pressuring.
@@illythewisp i was furious throughout the whole episode because of this. She really had the audacity to force a false copy of her dead partner upon her friend to fill the void, basically taking her chance to cope with his death properly. It was just sickening.
The ending Made me feel so uncomfortable like, she literally locked a copy of her dead boyfriend in a dark room upstairs. And how the daughter thinks this is all normal ..
As humans we evolve daily. Were more than just memories and a thought program. We are capable of new thoughts and emotions because of our relationships. Something machines can't emulate
The episode broke my heart. Seeing the kindhearted android being abandoned to the attic was just rude. Wasn't his fault that he was merely more than a flawed copy of the deceased.
Jess T. It was ready to kill itself just cause she said so and only started showing fear when she told it to. It’s not a cookie. It feels nothing. No point feeling sympathy for it.
@@joshuaokparaocha331 I see your point there though I wouldn't make it that easy on myself. It's a complex topic and the real question is if the algorithmic structure of the android is excluding the possibility that it is able to develop self-reliant feelings that don't match a specific coded chain of command. As long as this option is not eliminated - and the episode doesn't do that - there is indeed reason to have sympathy for the android and consider it as more than a simple machine. The actual issue is that Atwell's character *wants* it to be Ash himself which is obviously not possible.
The episode is heartbreaking because of what she went trough. The robot has no interests or feelings. He is more like a cool app or a very expensive sex toy.
I don't feel bad because it was not a human. Just because it mimicked a human, doesn't make it one. Like the episode showed, the robot looked like Ash but had no history, no emotions like fear, anger, ego, etc. Things that make organism sentient. It was just approximating something that Ash would do. It wasn't even doing that properly since the data it had to base it's approximation on was limited by what self flattering posts Ash put up on his Facebook(?) profile. So it was only mimicking something that Ash thought he was.
There’s a part I think everyone missed, where Ash says in the beginning that his mom stuffed things in the attic to forget about them because they were hard memories, and that’s what she did to the robot Ash later in the episode.
I honestly expected for Ash to have some really dark secrets and for Martha to discover it through the app and robot. But it turns out he didn’t know enough whereas I was hoping he’d know too much
I believe you're alluding to the plot device in Shut Up and Dance. The point of this one is that if you want to recreate someone artificially you need to have a lot more data, and it has to be accurate. Otherwise you are sure to disappoint your partner (or purchaser).
well, I think the android database was based on Ash's online persona and activities on social media (mentioned by Martha's friend), so probably the AI didn't have any memory of something like dark secrets, cause Ash hasn't shared them online before.
People would then complain that it wouldnt be realistic, if he did some dark stuff, as company would probably restrict robot from copying dangerous behaviours. I like it much more the way they potrayed it in the show. You subconciously think he will rebel like some terminator, like a feeling being, but no... He is nothing like living thing. That is what makes her in the end hate him - his inability to fully copy emotions like fear, hatred, that would make his reactions to her responses much more human. He is just too nice, unlike any living human. He doesnt have any bad emotions unless she wishes him to mimick them, which is unnatural.
*Anyone else noticed that his name is Ash??* It's literally the ashes. What's left behind from something that it used to be alive and now the only thing that remains is its ashes. And most of the people especially for their loved ones, keep their ashes as a memory. There could be many interpretations with the ashes just wanted to point this out!!
Totally! People keep the ashes becouse of their loved ones, you have them but not in the same way it used to be and could never fill the void, just like robot Ash to Martha
You know I thought of that - how people keep the ashes of their deceased loved ones and eventually feel such a release, when they spread the ashes. And you just reminded me of Ash's literal name. Nice metaphor.
Plus, we carry the ashes around, being walking tombs. I know I have 5 pets cremated and plan to take 3 with me wherever I move next. They’re the ashes you carry, but here, the weight is clearly beyond too much.
This episode was devastating. Martha was one of my favorite Black Mirror characters, I loved her so much. One of the most pure characters I’ve ever witnessed
@@eoinsmith1996 True! Her expression of frustration near the end in the scene of the cliff was so heartbreaking. Especially that scream. Moved me to the edge of tears.
Black Mirror isn't predictable. that's what I love about it. how most TV shows would have made Ash evil as a way to 'scare' the audience but Black Mirror chooses to psychologically and philosophically make you think/discuss and scare/frighten you in a way.
Not to mention that if she ever wanted to remarry she would have to explain the replica of her child's father in the attic. And what happens to android Ash when she passes on. Does her daughter get him? What if she made a robot version of her mother to cope?
Idk. I'm a widow, he died not long before this episode , the waste be with the teddy if a dead mom were shown. Sounds weird but it helped me stop pointlessly wishing I could get him back somehow. I was in hell but bad as him being gone is, I can't think of anything worse than a fake replacement bit I know well meaning people who haven't gone through it would think it comforting, they don't need robots to assume that "this will make it better" If she wants to remarry... Honestly. Most of us who had a happy marriage don't " want" to. I know people do remarry after being widowed but many don't. Idk - the way you don't always "want" a new car because you like the one you have had for ten years. Then out of your control, the old car you loved got stolen. Some people might need to get a new one for work/shopping/ image and are happy with the new car, eventually even confess there's even certson things they like more about the new car. Or Or you might decide not bother because you don't care if people find it weird, walk to work and get stuff delivered because no matter how much they'd like to it not walk places in the snow or rain. They might try for a bit, then it's a daily reminder you didn't want it, feels uncomfortable, the noises are different and looks wrong parked in the garage.
.This episode was really sad. The woman is so hurt by the loss of her boyfriend she got so desperate and bought a robot to replace it. During throughout it, it becomes even more depressing to see her complain and scream to the robot of the actions and decisions he is not doing like how her boyfriend would have done. At the end, I think she cant seem to accept the truth that her boyfriend is dead so she has to keep the robot upstairs instead of disposing it. She is stuck living her life with her daughter who doesn't know that the robot is her dead father. Heartbreaking and Disturbing
She knows it's a robot, the daughter mentioned to him when she was in the attic that she KNOWS he doesn't eat, but she brought up an extra slice of cake so she could eat it herself. Which I think is way more realistic for the mother's character to be upfront about it since she had to come to terms herself in the end, she definitely told her daughter that he's not human. But she has to cope with the fact that he will never truly be her father.
Reminds me of the funeral casket industry. Insanely overpriced rectangular boxes targeting vulnerable people who have lost a loved one. If your loved one died, you would want the fanciest most pristine casket for them, but really all your doing is letting the industry take advantage of you.
You are free to choose cremation or pick an inexpensive casket, if you get a funeral director trying to sell you a paragon mahogany, then you should leave. Most people who want the expensive pristine caskets already walk in wanting it.
@@brandy1185 Both you and OP are right in a way You're right that it isn't really a "taking advantage of people" as much as it is taking advantage of an existing market He's also right in the sense that people will defend this practice as honorary and that trying to abolish it is disrespectful to the dead and they might even claim it as a "sign of a decaying society" when in reality it's really unnecessary and doesn't really honour the dead, you honour them by doing stuff like achieving what they wanted you to do, or preserving the good things that they left behind etc. You know... actual meaningful stuff
@@totalwartimelapses6359 I agree completely. I definitely don't think it should be so expensive. My mum is now paying a bomb to the vets for both vet bills, the cremation of our dog and the urn! It's crazy.
When it came to the sex with the real ash, Martha didn’t seem like she enjoyed it too much. However with the fake ash, she enjoyed it a lot more, but she was still unhappy with him. Because she realized that It wasn’t the same and that it wasn’t the REAL ash who she truly loved and cared about.
@@issyyourboo2848 I seriously doubt she ever had sex with it again after she stored him in the attic. The feelings of disappointment and regret would overwhelm him again. She only went to see it again when her daughter does, to simulate a reunited family. I doubt she ever even hugged and kissed it again.
The part where Martha was brushing her teeth and weeping still makes me tear up. Just doing something so simple and I don't know it's just heart wrenching 😢
@@dare_he_is let people be. If they want to express their feelings, even in a funny way, let them do it. It's not good to make fun of someone or turn someone ELSE's suicidal tendencies into a joke, however, it's different when it's you. A person has every right to poke fun of themselves, or find things in their life funny. Chill.
great analysis. I love this episode because of the way it highlights how the presence you put on social media is not authentic - it's just a cheap copy, as Martha tells robot Ash he is. Ash spent so much time on social media yet contributed nothing valuable about who he truly is. How awful it would be to only have the social media version of someone, especially when you didn't like social media anyway.
Also we need to mention that the robot doesn’t age. Even if it was a perfect copy as Martha grew older it would have probably depressed her more as it would be a constant reminder that the one she loved the most is not able to experience the rest of his life with her and that he will forever be that young guy who didn’t publicly show how he felt and was constantly trying to please others on social media (hence when Martha says “you look like him.. on a good day”)
This episode is one of the only non-bleak Black Mirror episodes. It proves that real human connection can never be replicated and can never be faked, and that it's the most valuable thing in the world.
This one is a masterpiece. Really touched me in the heart, we all have that person we wish was still here, but we also now for sure that even if we could bring them back it would never be the same.
I like the proposed corporate control theme going on along with the whole "what makes a human" one, but it was probably Brooker's intention to focus on the latter. Probably one of the saddest parts of the episode is what you said at 5:55: RoboAsh can never tell Martha anything she doesn't know. The mere presence of RoboAsh becomes a tease that she can get the same experience with it as with the real version. It hammers in that idea that death of a loved one is permanent, and nothing acting as a replacement can match their real counterpart. Good analysis!
She found it awkward because he was a robot thing and she found it weird and didn't know how to handle it. Not sure it's the same as the awkwardness between people meeting face to face for the first time
@@Quinsys I think a better way to put it is the explanation and analysis helped some of us understand the depth of messages in the story. Because of this analysis, I was able to appreciate how much genuineness the writers portrayed of Martha and Ash's real relationship and how the robot reflects only the social media and superficial being of a person. This in-depth analysis definitely helps us to see the smallest details and more underlying messages. :)
This episode made me cry! I didn't expect that from Black Mirror, but I think that's what makes the series so damn interesting cause you get all these different stories and tones, some endings are happier, some sadder, some just outright dark.
My wife died a few months after this episode was first released. I was still fresh in my loss and grief when I first saw this episode and it hit me really hard. I'd have given almost anything to have her back but something like this would have driven me insane. She's right, he's not enough of him. Knowing every day that it's just a copy and a snapshot would be too painful to deal with. I had a hard enough time going through her phone, emails, personal belongings, etc. Something like this would be torture.
I cried my heart out watching this episode and my ex couldn't understand why it was so sad. In hindsight, he was very unauthentic on how he lived his life versus how he presented it. Amazing analysis.
These videos are honestly amazing. I love seeing someone else’s thoughts about black mirror episodes. You can tell that you put loads of thoughts into everything in each video.
This is just one of my favourite episodes. It's so heartbreaking, especially the ending where she wants to get him to jump off the cliff and then is upset when he goes to do it.
The company selling the program should have used the memory machine from Crocodile to access the memory’s from the person of the lost loved one to create a more accurate version of the program Ooo
Well the society is not as advanced yet. No one seems to be wearing the machine from history of you. So it is likely we invented Robot humanoids before we learned to access the central nerve system through machines.
@@Pieruh I think the creator said that all the episodes are like somehow connected like some episodes like white bear is kind of connected to white christmas and there are like references to past episodes
I remember watching this episode not too long after my boyfriend died. Somehow I managed to get through it, but it hit really hard. I was hanging out with my "best friend" a couple days later and she wanted to watch it. I told her that I couldn't because it was still too soon and I was very much still fucked up and she couldn't understand why. She could not understand why, her grieving best friend, who just lost a boyfriend, couldn't bring themselves to rewatch this episode. I told her to go home and we are not friends anymore (for a multitude of other reasons as well but you know, still shitty)
Get the bestie who volunteers to watch it with you when you’re ready, if you ever are, to bring you comfort. Not the “bestie” who wants to shove it at you and watch it for their own amusement. No no, toxic shit goes in the trash keep walking. Good on you for knowing boundaries. Seriously, I can’t watch any stuff like this without my best friend w me and he’s straight up better than the worlds sweetest therapy dog, find you that loyal bestie who knows how to keep you calm happy and safe even in the worst scenarios. 💕💕💕
Women are too quick to call people bestie this and bestie that, this is why stuff like this happens, you need to learn how to get to know people gradually instead of just straight up being friends because they choose to show you a specific side of them.
@@Nikketmzee I understand what you are trying to say.. but I was friends with her for 4 years when she did this to me. We weren't "besties" outright. We became best friends over time. And then she started acting different (most likely due to the new relationship she was in at the time)
@@Nikketmzee also there is nothing wrong with becoming close to someone quickly, shit happens, it sucks, you learn and move on. It won't deter me from getting close to other people at any speed I choose. And I definitely don't think it's just a woman thing.. I know plenty of men who get close to new friends just as quickly. It's a generic human thing of wanting to be trusting and wanting to have people in their life. And sometimes it doesn't work out. Everyone is allowed to go at their own speed, and if slower works for you, that's okay! But don't make people feel guilty and say they were the problem cause they didn't get to know people the way you think everyone should. You never know what the actual circumstances are in anyone else's relationships
I don't know if its just me, but I cried multiple times during this episode. Maybe because I'm just a very empathetic person, but just hearing the robot version of Ash say "I love you" made me sob. Because he is dead, but its his exact voice saying it to her, something that I think all of us wish we could hear again from someone we love who is no longer in our lives.
How one portrays themselves through words and post on social media could probably never be enough to replicate who they are in real life and or day to day life.
after rewatching this now, the growing popularity of ai chat like character ai reminded me of this episode, and how accurate it was. AI mimicking humans acts exactly like Ash.
this was so sad 😭 she never full got to grieve or accept his loss, and her real memories of him probably left and new ones were made with someone who.. isn’t really him.
Revisiting this episode en 2023, now that we've seen what Chat GPT is capable of, it's really interesting to think that we are potentially very close to that kind of technology,
I don't cry easy. On god i don't, but at the end, seeing him just standing abandoned in that attic like that, was more than even my cold, evil heart could take. This is a brilliant series. Finally something that touches my heart.
It might just be me, but there seemed to be a discrepancy between email/phonecall ash and robo ash. He should have continued to learn, but they made him become more and more robotic.
i thought it would’ve got pushed off the cliff then when the daughter was all grown up he was gonna be there in her room or smtg secretly (without martha knowing) and kind of fucked up from falling from a cliff to the water 😭 if that makes sense
i really appreciate your analyses of the episodes! there are a few that i didn't really like, possibly because i didn't fully understand them. but hearing the connections that you make gives me a completely different perspective. i mean they're all deep to begin with, but most of them go so much deeper than i realized, neatly tying up every single loose thread (including ones that i never even noticed) and making shockingly profound parallels to our own society. so thank you!
I just couldn't continue watching after this episode and came to RUclips to take a break. People blaming Martha for locking up the "poor" robot in the attic are falling for the same manipulation that Martha managed to partly break. Why am I saying this? As someone who's lost family, I would absolutely 100% have fallen for a scam like this, especially before having a chance to process the grief. Instead of coming to terms with the loss, Martha is being fed a fantasy at such a vulnerable moment. It's no difference from an addiction. And the manipulation, dear god! Right from using her dead lovers voice to ask her to pay more, to finally crying and begging her not to ask him to jump, that is some expert level manipulation bullsh*t. I say she managed to "partly" break out of it because, she didn't manage to get rid of him, but keeps him under control. Linda like when we promise to smoke only one bud a day
At least she is having best sex and much better younger, smoother, non wrinkled version of her partner. I would pay anything for that. But I also want such perfect sex doll 😍😍.
Your real life partner will get old and flawed, or they will fight you not obey you. Also they might not have algorithms from porn stars. But this doll is best of both worlds
I love your reviews, they are concise yet well paced and contains information that i hadn’t though but portraying it in a manner that isn’t prevention and big-worded, bravo
There are a few problems with this episode -- The AI sent text messages that were (I'm assuming) very realistic. Realistic enough to keep her on the phone and wanting her to go to the next level. Next, the AI was so realistic with phone conversations that she wanted to go to the next level and get the doppleganger. But it was so bad at knowing her expectations that it took off her blinders. So how could the AI be so good with Ash's personality that it fooled her in text messages and phone calls (presumably) for weeks and then the physical embodiment be so bad with the personality in a few days? That's a bit of a letdown. Secondly, if the company that produced the doppleganger was smart enough to make it eat food and have sex, why not program it to sleep? Or breathe? Or a shut off switch? Not a very forward thinking company. And then ending was lame -- I liked the alternate ending that was proposed, now THAT would have been a more realistic and more sinister ending.
@@matchclock5 The proposed alternate ending that Brooker was contemplating, was for all of this to be a money-making scheme by the AI company. That they would keep "upping" the experience for an increased cost. I'm guessing that texting would be free at first, and then a per text charge. The phones could be a per minute charge and the physical doppleganger would have a maintenance fee. Brooker didn't say that specifically, but in an interview said that he wanted, " a point where she runs out of credit and has to top it up." Now that would have been more realistic to me because that's exactly what a company would do in real life. You can tell that Brooker was going down this path with some of the lines in the show... "I signed you up" and "it is a company providing this" and my favorite directly from Ash "It's a bit expensive, but" -- all of that fits in with the proposed alternate ending, while leaving him in the attic for all of eternity, falls a little flat. IMHO.
This doesn’t really have anything with what you said really but I’ve noticed that people seem to view happier or less sinister endings as lame or bad endings. I don’t think the message of some black mirror episodes always require a grim ending but rather opt for one because of human nature. Perhaps a theme to explore in a future episode 🤔. Again I’m not really responding to what you said about the ending but just something I’ve noticed in general
I think it also shows how collecting data , taken from our online activity, can create artificially inflated versions of ourselves that don't reflect who we truly are.
You're so good at making these videos. You can be both serious and light hearted. Dude you're amazing. And i love you in a no homo way. Thanks for showing up in my recommended
the fact that ash blamed his mother in the beginning of the episode as she locked everything in the attic, like the pics of his dead father so they don't remind her and she doesn't have to go through all the pain over and over again. And in the end ashs' clone got locked into the attic as well, it just breaks my heart.
I just lost my fiance due to cancer, yes the loss is ugly, and i miss him so much but even if this AI already existed now, I wouldnt even want to try it, I dont want to keep fake things around me just because it’s familiar. I’d rather move forward to the unknown but it’s the truth. And if there’s an AI that could imitate my fiance 100% then the first thing it’s say to me would be, “citra, this is fake, i’m not here anymore, go experience the real world, enjoy the real life. Take your time to heal but only with the real things and people.” Coz that’s exactly what my fiance would say.
It’s definitely one of my favourite - if not my favourite - episode of black mirror, and this analysis is just amazing, I loved to see the side of a company using grieving to make a great amount of profit, your analysis just covers a bit of everything!!
In “shawshank redemption “ movie mogran freeman quoted “ hope is very dangerous thing , it can drive man insane “ , this exactly what happened in this episode, sometimes people when they lose someone they truly love and can’t handle that are actually gone , they desperately look for something to fill that void they left , she wasn’t convinced about that idea at the beginning , she said to the girl who signed her that this sickness but she broke down and hope is what left for her to save her from this despair, the fake ash even has some advantages such as he is far good sexually than the real one but she understood that this isn’t enough, he is not ash after all , he is just someone acting based on some information and orders ! At the end she left him in the attic cause at the beginning before ash died he mentioned that his mom when his father died , she put all his stuff in the attic so she can forget him and move on with her life , she did the same except she put the fake ash there ! Make sense but letting her daughter see him is a stupid thing in my opinion
I would have just made the most of having the android around and made him cook and clean for me and have the awesome sex if I was her. It could help through the grieving but not in the original way
At first I didn’t think too much of the episode when I saw it. But it’s been 2 years since I saw it and I can’t stop thinking about it. It used to be like an episode I considered in the middle rank, and now I consider it as a Top 5 episode
Good analysis, but I'm surprised you didn't talk about the sex scenes. In her fake version of Ash she decided that it was OK that he was different in being a better lover even though it wasn't really him. Unlike the other changes, this was a positive one. She was OK accepting this change but not the negative ones (eg not breathing at night).
These breakdowns are great just one thing. The analysis is so non linear. It makes it hard to understand when you go crazy out of order from the events of the episodes.
This episode was heart wrenching and has become one of my favorites. It brought up some interesting points on how people are way more complex than we think and even how they act in the presence of others, irl and online, can not be reflective of how they truly feel and think to ourselves. Although I think that the ai could work if the technology did something like transfer Ash's memories and personality as data from his brain. That would be another moral dilemma of replacing someone with something exactly like them in every way but are they really real. I thought it was really depressing that she failed to move on at all and is basically forever haunted by her dead love instead of moving on with another dude or something and accepting that a piece of Ash lives on in her daughter. She lives in the countryside isolating herself from her support network and other people too.
This one made me feel dread for both of them…the thought of having to interact with a dead loved one that isn’t really there, torture! He didn’t deserve to be left alone in the attic :/ The acting was fabulous!!!
So I don't know if anyone noticed, but the ending shot of her about to go up to the attic had two interesting shots. The first shot is of her about to climb up with Ash's markings on the door frame. But there is a second quick shot where the markings are painted over as she's climbing up the ladder. Anyone else catch this or am I crazy?
"Here's a picture of a really cute pup--" Bruh. I enjoyed this analysis. It made me appreciate the episode more. Thank you. Also, fake Ash could not be enough. That was his social media self. Martha had him on a far more genuine level before he passed away. When fake Ash got "parked" in the attic, it made me feel bad for him too. Even Ash's daughter, who will not know real Ash, but fake Ash, and that her mother parked him.
0:00- This one was really sad and made me mad at the friend who suggested that dumb idea. Grief is different for each person and that android was a really bad idea. You cannot replicate a human soul, once the person is gone that's it. It just made me sad for her because I knew she missed her man, but that was a terrible way to mourn her lover getting a machine to be more like her boyfriend. That's impossible.
In future we will be able too. Technologies improve with time and doll literally came with disclaimer if you were paying attention that it was beta version and not fully tested. In future the doll will be perfected And even if it is not perfect what does it matter? It is smooth, never grows old, no wrinkles, obeys you and is better than original person on bed. I mean sex and beauty is most important thing in a love relationship. And doll has it 😍😍I would pay a fortune for a perfect sex doll.
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This episode ruined me, especially with the topic of grief and dealing with tragic loss. The cliff side scene broke me. She was so raw, just allowing herself to finally hurt and scream.
anyone else get kinda scared that something was gonna go wrong when he said to not turn the light on in the bathroom
pragmaticpolitics lol he had to marinate
Lol yes
Ommmgggg I was in class watching this and I literally had to walk out and get fresh air, you never know what might come from these episodes 😂
And when she asks him to hit her ahahaha
@@otakumultifandom bruh i thought he was going to freak out and fight her. Hahahaha that wouldve made the episode even more insane than it already is
Martha didn’t get time to grieve properly. It takes a long time to grieve death. But unfortunately she was all forced to it. I blame her friend for setting this program for Martha.
Agreed. Sara was so forceful. She didn't even give her time to recover from her trauma, and she keeps insisting for her to try it. And even if she denied, she still signed Martha up. That's just sick and pressuring.
@@illythewisp i was furious throughout the whole episode because of this. She really had the audacity to force a false copy of her dead partner upon her friend to fill the void, basically taking her chance to cope with his death properly. It was just sickening.
but deaht isnt the final destinatio nits just transition point you know
@@illythewisp Peer pressure cancel culture needs to be stopped
@@nonamepasserbya6658 yes
i felt kinda bad for the android tho lmao he was just trying his best
Yeah me too
Thank god that didn't have feelings
Wow, what if he had a cookie similar to the ones in White Christmas? With the same body and consciousness Ash would be immortal.
@@rumudinc3057 I'm surprised they didn't make an episode about it...
Alison It would be similar to altered carbon, only the sleeve wouldn't be human.
The ending Made me feel so uncomfortable like, she literally locked a copy of her dead boyfriend in a dark room upstairs. And how the daughter thinks this is all normal ..
Just like his mom did with the pictures, black mirror always does this kind of foreshadowing .
@@deadshot0908 omg i just realized.... crazy
The entire Episode was uncomfortable for me 😨
@@deadshot0908 whoa!!! thanks now i got it
she should've pushed the ai from the cliff
He should have had access to the data from the "history of you" episode.That would have been one authentic behaving robot
or even combine this with the cookies and anyone can have an immortal robot body
As humans we evolve daily. Were more than just memories and a thought program. We are capable of new thoughts and emotions because of our relationships. Something machines can't emulate
Chip olocios robots will be able to within the next ten years or so, without a doubt
Ez4 Ed false. A program cannot create true spontaneity. Even if programmed to be spontaneous, is just an oxymoron
@@kevinfazal6241 Well said!
Their chemistry is so amazing. They seemed like an actual couple.
I agree, you have two amazing actor onscreen
The episode broke my heart. Seeing the kindhearted android being abandoned to the attic was just rude. Wasn't his fault that he was merely more than a flawed copy of the deceased.
Jess T. It was ready to kill itself just cause she said so and only started showing fear when she told it to. It’s not a cookie. It feels nothing. No point feeling sympathy for it.
@@joshuaokparaocha331 I see your point there though I wouldn't make it that easy on myself. It's a complex topic and the real question is if the algorithmic structure of the android is excluding the possibility that it is able to develop self-reliant feelings that don't match a specific coded chain of command. As long as this option is not eliminated - and the episode doesn't do that - there is indeed reason to have sympathy for the android and consider it as more than a simple machine. The actual issue is that Atwell's character *wants* it to be Ash himself which is obviously not possible.
It was a machine. It didn't have any feelings since it was just reproducing what he found on files. It just took commands and executed them.
The episode is heartbreaking because of what she went trough. The robot has no interests or feelings. He is more like a cool app or a very expensive sex toy.
I don't feel bad because it was not a human. Just because it mimicked a human, doesn't make it one. Like the episode showed, the robot looked like Ash but had no history, no emotions like fear, anger, ego, etc. Things that make organism sentient. It was just approximating something that Ash would do. It wasn't even doing that properly since the data it had to base it's approximation on was limited by what self flattering posts Ash put up on his Facebook(?) profile. So it was only mimicking something that Ash thought he was.
Makes me wonder what a robot based on my online persona would be like
Dentally Challenged mine would be a barely functioning toaster
Lmao I barely have one. Hahah Mine would just be complaining and sounding unimpressed ahha
Tasha Monique I can vouch for that
Same
@@rin8761 yours would probably say things like "Same"
There’s a part I think everyone missed, where Ash says in the beginning that his mom stuffed things in the attic to forget about them because they were hard memories, and that’s what she did to the robot Ash later in the episode.
Lol yeah never mind I finished the video. I really thought I caught something no one did
@@ellainamason i didn’t catch it though
I only caught it the second time when I rewatched it :')
I honestly expected for Ash to have some really dark secrets and for Martha to discover it through the app and robot. But it turns out he didn’t know enough whereas I was hoping he’d know too much
That would actually be really cool. I liked this episode too though. Honestly that's a really good idea, pretty much worthy of the show.
I was expecting the same, but doesn't disappointed me, I almost clapped at final.
I believe you're alluding to the plot device in Shut Up and Dance. The point of this one is that if you want to recreate someone artificially you need to have a lot more data, and it has to be accurate. Otherwise you are sure to disappoint your partner (or purchaser).
well, I think the android database was based on Ash's online persona and activities on social media (mentioned by Martha's friend), so probably the AI didn't have any memory of something like dark secrets, cause Ash hasn't shared them online before.
People would then complain that it wouldnt be realistic, if he did some dark stuff, as company would probably restrict robot from copying dangerous behaviours. I like it much more the way they potrayed it in the show. You subconciously think he will rebel like some terminator, like a feeling being, but no... He is nothing like living thing. That is what makes her in the end hate him - his inability to fully copy emotions like fear, hatred, that would make his reactions to her responses much more human. He is just too nice, unlike any living human. He doesnt have any bad emotions unless she wishes him to mimick them, which is unnatural.
*Anyone else noticed that his name is Ash??*
It's literally the ashes. What's left behind from something that it used to be alive and now the only thing that remains is its ashes. And most of the people especially for their loved ones, keep their ashes as a memory. There could be many interpretations with the ashes just wanted to point this out!!
Totally! People keep the ashes becouse of their loved ones, you have them but not in the same way it used to be and could never fill the void, just like robot Ash to Martha
You know I thought of that - how people keep the ashes of their deceased loved ones and eventually feel such a release, when they spread the ashes. And you just reminded me of Ash's literal name. Nice metaphor.
Could the name Marta = martyr, ie. Martyr to his memory?
OMG HOW DID I NOT REALIZE THAT
Plus, we carry the ashes around, being walking tombs. I know I have 5 pets cremated and plan to take 3 with me wherever I move next. They’re the ashes you carry, but here, the weight is clearly beyond too much.
This episode was devastating.
Martha was one of my favorite Black Mirror characters, I loved her so much. One of the most pure characters I’ve ever witnessed
Awesome actress, she perfected that role.
@@eoinsmith1996 True! Her expression of frustration near the end in the scene of the cliff was so heartbreaking. Especially that scream. Moved me to the edge of tears.
Hayley is the best
Yeah, the other episode where the lawyer got cheated by his wife, he deserves someone like her
@@loubloom8370 liam :'( ruck Fi
Black Mirror isn't predictable. that's what I love about it. how most TV shows would have made Ash evil as a way to 'scare' the audience but Black Mirror chooses to psychologically and philosophically make you think/discuss and scare/frighten you in a way.
Not to mention that if she ever wanted to remarry she would have to explain the replica of her child's father in the attic. And what happens to android Ash when she passes on. Does her daughter get him? What if she made a robot version of her mother to cope?
Whoa and then the android Ash and Martha could be together! It would be a boring relationship but also kind of cute in a way.
Idk. I'm a widow, he died not long before this episode , the waste be with the teddy if a dead mom were shown. Sounds weird but it helped me stop pointlessly wishing I could get him back somehow. I was in hell but bad as him being gone is, I can't think of anything worse than a fake replacement bit I know well meaning people who haven't gone through it would think it comforting, they don't need robots to assume that "this will make it better"
If she wants to remarry... Honestly. Most of us who had a happy marriage don't " want" to. I know people do remarry after being widowed but many don't. Idk - the way you don't always "want" a new car because you like the one you have had for ten years. Then out of your control, the old car you loved got stolen. Some people might need to get a new one for work/shopping/ image and are happy with the new car, eventually even confess there's even certson things they like more about the new car. Or
Or you might decide not bother because you don't care if people find it weird, walk to work and get stuff delivered because no matter how much they'd like to it not walk places in the snow or rain. They might try for a bit, then it's a daily reminder you didn't want it, feels uncomfortable, the noises are different and looks wrong parked in the garage.
Sounds cool lol HAHAHAHAHA
@@jairose6956 I am so sorry for your loss 🙏💕
@@jairose6956 you explained that very well. No one should go through what you went through.....
.This episode was really sad. The woman is so hurt by the loss of her boyfriend she got so desperate and bought a robot to replace it. During throughout it, it becomes even more depressing to see her complain and scream to the robot of the actions and decisions he is not doing like how her boyfriend would have done. At the end, I think she cant seem to accept the truth that her boyfriend is dead so she has to keep the robot upstairs instead of disposing it. She is stuck living her life with her daughter who doesn't know that the robot is her dead father. Heartbreaking and Disturbing
She knows it's a robot, the daughter mentioned to him when she was in the attic that she KNOWS he doesn't eat, but she brought up an extra slice of cake so she could eat it herself. Which I think is way more realistic for the mother's character to be upfront about it since she had to come to terms herself in the end, she definitely told her daughter that he's not human. But she has to cope with the fact that he will never truly be her father.
She knows it is not her dad. He's kind of like an elaborate memento of him, an upgrade from merely photo albums and CDs and internet videos.
Reminds me of the funeral casket industry. Insanely overpriced rectangular boxes targeting vulnerable people who have lost a loved one. If your loved one died, you would want the fanciest most pristine casket for them, but really all your doing is letting the industry take advantage of you.
@Chet Ripley so are weddings
You are free to choose cremation or pick an inexpensive casket, if you get a funeral director trying to sell you a paragon mahogany, then you should leave. Most people who want the expensive pristine caskets already walk in wanting it.
@@brandy1185
Both you and OP are right in a way
You're right that it isn't really a "taking advantage of people" as much as it is taking advantage of an existing market
He's also right in the sense that people will defend this practice as honorary and that trying to abolish it is disrespectful to the dead and they might even claim it as a "sign of a decaying society" when in reality it's really unnecessary and doesn't really honour the dead, you honour them by doing stuff like achieving what they wanted you to do, or preserving the good things that they left behind etc.
You know... actual meaningful stuff
@Personal Jesus my mum just told me to put her body in the bin! Though that'd be difficult as the new outdoor refuse bins have now become smaller
@@totalwartimelapses6359 I agree completely. I definitely don't think it should be so expensive. My mum is now paying a bomb to the vets for both vet bills, the cremation of our dog and the urn! It's crazy.
When it came to the sex with the real ash, Martha didn’t seem like she enjoyed it too much. However with the fake ash, she enjoyed it a lot more, but she was still unhappy with him. Because she realized that It wasn’t the same and that it wasn’t the REAL ash who she truly loved and cared about.
she loved real ash for everything he was ., even his 'imperfections' etc
@@issyyourboo2848 i wanna order one too! but it would need to be modelled on callum turner🤣😍😍🤣🤣
@@freddiemeyer4563 oh he's a whole meal that one
@@issyyourboo2848 I seriously doubt she ever had sex with it again after she stored him in the attic. The feelings of disappointment and regret would overwhelm him again. She only went to see it again when her daughter does, to simulate a reunited family. I doubt she ever even hugged and kissed it again.
@@issyyourboo2848 this episode is completly against superficiality
The part where Martha was brushing her teeth and weeping still makes me tear up. Just doing something so simple and I don't know it's just heart wrenching 😢
I agree, it was so real and relatable
Damn if I were to be rebirth as a robot based on my social postings, there would be one suicidal robot.
Sasha TMP AJDBQJSBWHSHHAQHHD NOOO
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Cause suicide is funny right?
@@dare_he_is let people be. If they want to express their feelings, even in a funny way, let them do it. It's not good to make fun of someone or turn someone ELSE's suicidal tendencies into a joke, however, it's different when it's you. A person has every right to poke fun of themselves, or find things in their life funny. Chill.
@@dare_he_is no, but a lot of the times suicidal people like to make jokes about it.
As someone who lost the man I loved, this episode broke my heart.
I hope you are doing well now.
@TRBW she meant he's no more
TRBW - that comment could be seen incredibly rude and insensitive, or just a funny light-hearted joke, but this is the internet after all.
@TRBW bruh
I hope you find peace and joy. You deserve it, you most definitely do. He’d want you to be happy.
I can’t even imagine loosing someone I deeply love. Like losing the person you think about 24/7,what tf do you even do without them.
losing
This was a very very very sad episode.
Agreed
great analysis. I love this episode because of the way it highlights how the presence you put on social media is not authentic - it's just a cheap copy, as Martha tells robot Ash he is. Ash spent so much time on social media yet contributed nothing valuable about who he truly is. How awful it would be to only have the social media version of someone, especially when you didn't like social media anyway.
Great comment, couldn't agree more!
And especially if you upload lies about yourself.
That's a perfect analysis!!
Also we need to mention that the robot doesn’t age. Even if it was a perfect copy as Martha grew older it would have probably depressed her more as it would be a constant reminder that the one she loved the most is not able to experience the rest of his life with her and that he will forever be that young guy who didn’t publicly show how he felt and was constantly trying to please others on social media (hence when Martha says “you look like him.. on a good day”)
Actually the software programmed his skin and everything in 2D as mentioned in the episode, so the robot could have programmed an ageing process
This episode is one of the only non-bleak Black Mirror episodes. It proves that real human connection can never be replicated and can never be faked, and that it's the most valuable thing in the world.
This episode was so sad, since the start I couldn't stop crying
Me too 😢😢😢
I misread that as "this episode was so bad"
Crybaby asses grow up!
@@kevin1seven923 for real lol cry ass babies
@@kevin1seven923 it’s a women
This one is a masterpiece. Really touched me in the heart, we all have that person we wish was still here, but we also now for sure that even if we could bring them back it would never be the same.
...know for sure...
I like the proposed corporate control theme going on along with the whole "what makes a human" one, but it was probably Brooker's intention to focus on the latter. Probably one of the saddest parts of the episode is what you said at 5:55: RoboAsh can never tell Martha anything she doesn't know. The mere presence of RoboAsh becomes a tease that she can get the same experience with it as with the real version. It hammers in that idea that death of a loved one is permanent, and nothing acting as a replacement can match their real counterpart. Good analysis!
I think the name Ash is supposed to be a metaphor for ashes. The robot is Ash; the only remains of her husband
Also reminds me of the malevolent android passing itself off as human played by the late Ian Holm in Alien.
I hate this episode. It breaks my heart too much. It's one of the few Black Mirror episodes that I won't watch twice.
It also shows how socially awkward ppl are face to face vs how it is easier to let down your guard threw text and phone calls
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She found it awkward because he was a robot thing and she found it weird and didn't know how to handle it. Not sure it's the same as the awkwardness between people meeting face to face for the first time
I personally prefer face 2 face encounter... I'm more awkward over texts and calls
You make me like episodes I didn't consider that good when I first watched them :)
You didn't think Be Right Back was a good episode?!
@@Quinsys I think a better way to put it is the explanation and analysis helped some of us understand the depth of messages in the story. Because of this analysis, I was able to appreciate how much genuineness the writers portrayed of Martha and Ash's real relationship and how the robot reflects only the social media and superficial being of a person. This in-depth analysis definitely helps us to see the smallest details and more underlying messages. :)
it became so dark when she put him in the attic ...i was scared and disturbed
Creepy...
@@olivialew8175 shook me to my core
This episode made me cry! I didn't expect that from Black Mirror, but I think that's what makes the series so damn interesting cause you get all these different stories and tones, some endings are happier, some sadder, some just outright dark.
My wife died a few months after this episode was first released. I was still fresh in my loss and grief when I first saw this episode and it hit me really hard. I'd have given almost anything to have her back but something like this would have driven me insane. She's right, he's not enough of him. Knowing every day that it's just a copy and a snapshot would be too painful to deal with. I had a hard enough time going through her phone, emails, personal belongings, etc. Something like this would be torture.
You definitely deserve more of EVERYTHING, Bryce, keep the analyses up!
I cried my heart out watching this episode and my ex couldn't understand why it was so sad. In hindsight, he was very unauthentic on how he lived his life versus how he presented it. Amazing analysis.
I get why he is an ex now.
Mate got out before it was too late
These videos are honestly amazing. I love seeing someone else’s thoughts about black mirror episodes. You can tell that you put loads of thoughts into everything in each video.
This is just one of my favourite episodes. It's so heartbreaking, especially the ending where she wants to get him to jump off the cliff and then is upset when he goes to do it.
The company selling the program should have used the memory machine from Crocodile to access the memory’s from the person of the lost loved one to create a more accurate version of the program Ooo
Well the society is not as advanced yet. No one seems to be wearing the machine from history of you. So it is likely we invented Robot humanoids before we learned to access the central nerve system through machines.
memories
I always wondered if the episodes in this series occurs in the same timeline/universe or not
@@Pieruh there’s references to past episodes, I just think they’re all in the same timeline but at different points of it if that makes sense
@@Pieruh I think the creator said that all the episodes are like somehow connected like some episodes like white bear is kind of connected to white christmas and there are like references to past episodes
I remember watching this episode not too long after my boyfriend died. Somehow I managed to get through it, but it hit really hard. I was hanging out with my "best friend" a couple days later and she wanted to watch it. I told her that I couldn't because it was still too soon and I was very much still fucked up and she couldn't understand why. She could not understand why, her grieving best friend, who just lost a boyfriend, couldn't bring themselves to rewatch this episode.
I told her to go home and we are not friends anymore (for a multitude of other reasons as well but you know, still shitty)
Get the bestie who volunteers to watch it with you when you’re ready, if you ever are, to bring you comfort.
Not the “bestie” who wants to shove it at you and watch it for their own amusement. No no, toxic shit goes in the trash keep walking.
Good on you for knowing boundaries. Seriously, I can’t watch any stuff like this without my best friend w me and he’s straight up better than the worlds sweetest therapy dog, find you that loyal bestie who knows how to keep you calm happy and safe even in the worst scenarios. 💕💕💕
@@LuLu24Ayo you have no idea what this validation does for me ❤ I appreciate your kind words and luckily I do have that bestie in my life now 🥰
Women are too quick to call people bestie this and bestie that, this is why stuff like this happens, you need to learn how to get to know people gradually instead of just straight up being friends because they choose to show you a specific side of them.
@@Nikketmzee I understand what you are trying to say.. but I was friends with her for 4 years when she did this to me. We weren't "besties" outright. We became best friends over time. And then she started acting different (most likely due to the new relationship she was in at the time)
@@Nikketmzee also there is nothing wrong with becoming close to someone quickly, shit happens, it sucks, you learn and move on. It won't deter me from getting close to other people at any speed I choose. And I definitely don't think it's just a woman thing.. I know plenty of men who get close to new friends just as quickly. It's a generic human thing of wanting to be trusting and wanting to have people in their life. And sometimes it doesn't work out. Everyone is allowed to go at their own speed, and if slower works for you, that's okay! But don't make people feel guilty and say they were the problem cause they didn't get to know people the way you think everyone should. You never know what the actual circumstances are in anyone else's relationships
Love these analyses of Black Mirror episodes! It's one of my favourite shows!
What. Was. That. Puppy???
A reference to another black mirror chapter; aka metalhead
Ik! So cute🥰🥰🥰
This episode was just depressing, i needed a break lmao
I remember crying a ton during this episode because it hurt so much trying to empathise with someone struggling with losing the love of their life.
....of her life.
I don't know if its just me, but I cried multiple times during this episode. Maybe because I'm just a very empathetic person, but just hearing the robot version of Ash say "I love you" made me sob. Because he is dead, but its his exact voice saying it to her, something that I think all of us wish we could hear again from someone we love who is no longer in our lives.
How one portrays themselves through words and post on social media could probably never be enough to replicate who they are in real life and or day to day life.
I hit the like button before the video even started because I know I'll love this video.
Edit: I was not disappointed.
Fast-forward a few years and you have Chat GPT and Replika. It is a Brave New World.
I can’t wait for the new season to pop back up!!! I need BM to get me through!
Ana StaysGolden when it’s coming out?
@@Celestialmimi Yes
2019 for sure just but not sure what month so let’s hang in there !
Ana StaysGolden
@@anastaysgolden1406 5th of June
after rewatching this now, the growing popularity of ai chat like character ai reminded me of this episode, and how accurate it was. AI mimicking humans acts exactly like Ash.
Domhnall Gleeson is simply *chefs kiss*.
this was so sad 😭 she never full got to grieve or accept his loss, and her real memories of him probably left and new ones were made with someone who.. isn’t really him.
Man I was watching this episode and felt this future isn't far away.
I know right, with ai and stuff
it's already a thing, there's a service that advertises AI use to replicate deceased loved ones
@@TypicalTip 💀💀
@@TypicalTipwhere those AI called?
@@TypicalTipchat gpt already can do.
Combine it with robotics we will have perfect sex dolls in future 😍😍.
Revisiting this episode en 2023, now that we've seen what Chat GPT is capable of, it's really interesting to think that we are potentially very close to that kind of technology,
I don't cry easy. On god i don't, but at the end, seeing him just standing abandoned in that attic like that, was more than even my cold, evil heart could take. This is a brilliant series. Finally something that touches my heart.
It might just be me, but there seemed to be a discrepancy between email/phonecall ash and robo ash. He should have continued to learn, but they made him become more and more robotic.
True. The phone Ash sounds smarter than the robo Ash.
Love your analyse. Only found you recently but easily one of my new faves :). Keep it up.
This channel deserves more recognition.
the creepy thing is, this episdoe closer then ever to being real...shivers
when i first saw this episode i thought the robot ash was going to be evil lol
Angela. You are an angel
Me too!
i thought it would’ve got pushed off the cliff then when the daughter was all grown up he was gonna be there in her room or smtg secretly (without martha knowing) and kind of fucked up from falling from a cliff to the water 😭 if that makes sense
i really appreciate your analyses of the episodes! there are a few that i didn't really like, possibly because i didn't fully understand them. but hearing the connections that you make gives me a completely different perspective. i mean they're all deep to begin with, but most of them go so much deeper than i realized, neatly tying up every single loose thread (including ones that i never even noticed) and making shockingly profound parallels to our own society. so thank you!
I just finished this episode and can't believe this is actually reality now. Holy shit
This whole episode was just really sad. It shows what people will do to cope with the major loss in their lives. Some people just never recover
I just couldn't continue watching after this episode and came to RUclips to take a break. People blaming Martha for locking up the "poor" robot in the attic are falling for the same manipulation that Martha managed to partly break.
Why am I saying this? As someone who's lost family, I would absolutely 100% have fallen for a scam like this, especially before having a chance to process the grief. Instead of coming to terms with the loss, Martha is being fed a fantasy at such a vulnerable moment. It's no difference from an addiction.
And the manipulation, dear god! Right from using her dead lovers voice to ask her to pay more, to finally crying and begging her not to ask him to jump, that is some expert level manipulation bullsh*t. I say she managed to "partly" break out of it because, she didn't manage to get rid of him, but keeps him under control. Linda like when we promise to smoke only one bud a day
At least she is having best sex and much better younger, smoother, non wrinkled version of her partner.
I would pay anything for that.
But I also want such perfect sex doll 😍😍.
Your real life partner will get old and flawed, or they will fight you not obey you. Also they might not have algorithms from porn stars. But this doll is best of both worlds
I love your reviews, they are concise yet well paced and contains information that i hadn’t though but portraying it in a manner that isn’t prevention and big-worded, bravo
I wonder how differently this would have gone if instead of their social media posts, it used a grain like in “the entire history of you”
There are a few problems with this episode -- The AI sent text messages that were (I'm assuming) very realistic. Realistic enough to keep her on the phone and wanting her to go to the next level. Next, the AI was so realistic with phone conversations that she wanted to go to the next level and get the doppleganger. But it was so bad at knowing her expectations that it took off her blinders.
So how could the AI be so good with Ash's personality that it fooled her in text messages and phone calls (presumably) for weeks and then the physical embodiment be so bad with the personality in a few days? That's a bit of a letdown.
Secondly, if the company that produced the doppleganger was smart enough to make it eat food and have sex, why not program it to sleep? Or breathe? Or a shut off switch? Not a very forward thinking company.
And then ending was lame -- I liked the alternate ending that was proposed, now THAT would have been a more realistic and more sinister ending.
What was the alternate ending
@Emily Barclay
You've got me curious as well!
@@matchclock5 The proposed alternate ending that Brooker was contemplating, was for all of this to be a money-making scheme by the AI company. That they would keep "upping" the experience for an increased cost. I'm guessing that texting would be free at first, and then a per text charge. The phones could be a per minute charge and the physical doppleganger would have a maintenance fee. Brooker didn't say that specifically, but in an interview said that he wanted, " a point where she runs out of credit and has to top it up."
Now that would have been more realistic to me because that's exactly what a company would do in real life. You can tell that Brooker was going down this path with some of the lines in the show... "I signed you up" and "it is a company providing this" and my favorite directly from Ash "It's a bit expensive, but" -- all of that fits in with the proposed alternate ending, while leaving him in the attic for all of eternity, falls a little flat. IMHO.
This doesn’t really have anything with what you said really but I’ve noticed that people seem to view happier or less sinister endings as lame or bad endings. I don’t think the message of some black mirror episodes always require a grim ending but rather opt for one because of human nature. Perhaps a theme to explore in a future episode 🤔. Again I’m not really responding to what you said about the ending but just something I’ve noticed in general
The old bait and hook!
I think it also shows how collecting data , taken from our online activity, can create artificially inflated versions of ourselves that don't reflect who we truly are.
You're so good at making these videos. You can be both serious and light hearted. Dude you're amazing. And i love you in a no homo way. Thanks for showing up in my recommended
Thank you Trash Goblin! That's really awesome to hear!
Boyfriend? I thought they were married. This is a good example of how AI could never truly be human
They weren't married
the fact that ash blamed his mother in the beginning of the episode as she locked everything in the attic, like the pics of his dead father so they don't remind her and she doesn't have to go through all the pain over and over again. And in the end ashs' clone got locked into the attic as well, it just breaks my heart.
I just lost my fiance due to cancer, yes the loss is ugly, and i miss him so much but even if this AI already existed now, I wouldnt even want to try it, I dont want to keep fake things around me just because it’s familiar. I’d rather move forward to the unknown but it’s the truth. And if there’s an AI that could imitate my fiance 100% then the first thing it’s say to me would be, “citra, this is fake, i’m not here anymore, go experience the real world, enjoy the real life. Take your time to heal but only with the real things and people.” Coz that’s exactly what my fiance would say.
And here in 2023 it looks like this sort of thing isn’t too far away. God help us
Your analysis are so good......
How good are they?
You always make me rewatch episodes!!!
Thank you ❤️
It’s definitely one of my favourite - if not my favourite - episode of black mirror, and this analysis is just amazing, I loved to see the side of a company using grieving to make a great amount of profit, your analysis just covers a bit of everything!!
In “shawshank redemption “ movie mogran freeman quoted “ hope is very dangerous thing , it can drive man insane “ , this exactly what happened in this episode, sometimes people when they lose someone they truly love and can’t handle that are actually gone , they desperately look for something to fill that void they left , she wasn’t convinced about that idea at the beginning , she said to the girl who signed her that this sickness but she broke down and hope is what left for her to save her from this despair, the fake ash even has some advantages such as he is far good sexually than the real one but she understood that this isn’t enough, he is not ash after all , he is just someone acting based on some information and orders ! At the end she left him in the attic cause at the beginning before ash died he mentioned that his mom when his father died , she put all his stuff in the attic so she can forget him and move on with her life , she did the same except she put the fake ash there ! Make sense but letting her daughter see him is a stupid thing in my opinion
I would have just made the most of having the android around and made him cook and clean for me and have the awesome sex if I was her. It could help through the grieving but not in the original way
At first I didn’t think too much of the episode when I saw it. But it’s been 2 years since I saw it and I can’t stop thinking about it. It used to be like an episode I considered in the middle rank, and now I consider it as a Top 5 episode
This was scarier than a horror movie because this is the near future or almost present..
Good analysis, but I'm surprised you didn't talk about the sex scenes. In her fake version of Ash she decided that it was OK that he was different in being a better lover even though it wasn't really him. Unlike the other changes, this was a positive one. She was OK accepting this change but not the negative ones (eg not breathing at night).
These breakdowns are great just one thing. The analysis is so non linear. It makes it hard to understand when you go crazy out of order from the events of the episodes.
Imagine a person who just watches memes all day becomes a robot like this
This episode was heart wrenching and has become one of my favorites. It brought up some interesting points on how people are way more complex than we think and even how they act in the presence of others, irl and online, can not be reflective of how they truly feel and think to ourselves. Although I think that the ai could work if the technology did something like transfer Ash's memories and personality as data from his brain. That would be another moral dilemma of replacing someone with something exactly like them in every way but are they really real.
I thought it was really depressing that she failed to move on at all and is basically forever haunted by her dead love instead of moving on with another dude or something and accepting that a piece of Ash lives on in her daughter. She lives in the countryside isolating herself from her support network and other people too.
I've seen National Anthem, 15 Million Merritts, Entire History Of You and this. This is probably the most lighthearted episode out of all of them.
This is in my top 5 black mirror episodes. You opened my eyes to alot I didn't see so Thank You.
New sub x
This one made me feel dread for both of them…the thought of having to interact with a dead loved one that isn’t really there, torture! He didn’t deserve to be left alone in the attic :/ The acting was fabulous!!!
So I don't know if anyone noticed, but the ending shot of her about to go up to the attic had two interesting shots. The first shot is of her about to climb up with Ash's markings on the door frame. But there is a second quick shot where the markings are painted over as she's climbing up the ladder. Anyone else catch this or am I crazy?
You are crazy
Imagine how bland your robot would be if you are not a photogenic person and never have commented on social media like Twitter.
"Here's a picture of a really cute pup--" Bruh. I enjoyed this analysis. It made me appreciate the episode more. Thank you. Also, fake Ash could not be enough. That was his social media self. Martha had him on a far more genuine level before he passed away. When fake Ash got "parked" in the attic, it made me feel bad for him too. Even Ash's daughter, who will not know real Ash, but fake Ash, and that her mother parked him.
0:00- This one was really sad and made me mad at the friend who suggested that dumb idea. Grief is different for each person and that android was a really bad idea. You cannot replicate a human soul, once the person is gone that's it. It just made me sad for her because I knew she missed her man, but that was a terrible way to mourn her lover getting a machine to be more like her boyfriend. That's impossible.
In future we will be able too.
Technologies improve with time and doll literally came with disclaimer if you were paying attention that it was beta version and not fully tested.
In future the doll will be perfected
And even if it is not perfect what does it matter?
It is smooth, never grows old, no wrinkles, obeys you and is better than original person on bed.
I mean sex and beauty is most important thing in a love relationship. And doll has it 😍😍I would pay a fortune for a perfect sex doll.
Sometimes it's better not to go against the natural flow of events like death.. Moving on is what needs to be done
Good vid I like how you put the scene of her shutting the door on the police when you were talking about her avoiding her problems
My all-time favorite episode of Black Mirror. So captivating 🥺
This episode made me consider the possiblity of someone ordering a simulation of one's enemy so as to revenge oneself upon it.
I was sort of expecting a twist like Martha is also an andriod bought by Ash but she doesn't know it cuz she's adapted.
You should start a patron, I've been binging your content for the last two days and I feel like people would directly support you in order to receive special early videos or different content
Domhnall Gleeson is the actor who played Ash as well as the lead in Ex Machina which also dealt with AI.
Totally, good catch!
This is not so far from reality. Chatbots based on someone now exist and they’re getting too good.
I made the mistake of watching this while pregnant. I cried for 2 hours afterwards 🤦🏻♀️
This episode ruined me, especially with the topic of grief and dealing with tragic loss. The cliff side scene broke me. She was so raw, just allowing herself to finally hurt and scream.