Cobra HAD been my favorite to date (between stock, OTE and Kush) but I upgraded to the Viper while down at FLF3. I went with the standard grip since I ride trails so much. WOW! I don't know why anyone would buy the Cobra now. Like you said, it's very similar but that little bit of squish is sooo nice!
I carve the shit out of my pint and I can go like 4 miles before I have to get off and stop. I'm only at a 100mi though so maybe it'll get better. Everyone seems to make carving the panacea for all things foot ache.
I can ride trails longer than streets based on foot-fatigue because of constant foot shift... And I'm usually hopping off when things get extra dicey too. BUT, my legs in general can't handle trail as long as smooth paved surfaces 😉
You're probably a bit too tense offroad. I've learned you really need to be pretty loose to ride on the trails well. You want to let your legs be loose and act like shock absorbers.
@@andrewc662 maybe... I'm still suffering from DOMS (especially in my calfs) two days after an 11 mile run with my XR on the same trail I did a 7 mile test run with the Pint (no muscle soreness from that ride). In the past, I've done 14 miles street on XR no problems. But I run a super busy lifestyle and don't do big long runs, especially Offroad runs much. I may have pushed it too much on that 11 mile run as I hadn't floated in over a week. If you got time, Check my more recent posts on my channel for footage of the trail I rode, testing the Pint's range, getting a little rowdy for a busy father of 6 😎 Edit: "Offroad" and "trail" can be subjective. Every trail is different, some more rugged than others. I need to stretch more mostly!... And ride more😉 Ohhh and I forgot that I rode more later that day too... Probably rode total of 20 miles that day. 11 of it being Offroad... Ya, that'll do it. Nevertheless I remember being pretty beef after the 11 mile compared to the 7 Mile
Great vid. I thought I was alone in my foot fatigue. I'm an older Onewheeler and assumed all you young bucks don't have a fatigue issue. Glad that you included the foot anatomy details as well. Ultimately, it's like any other exercise - build stamina over time. However, I've noticed that my rear foot fatigues more quickly each time I ride.
I never rode a board before this year. I bought the XR mid June now have close to 900 miles. I have the kush low on my board I do not get much foot fatigue anymore. Two Biggest keys in not getting the fatigue in my opinion is, lose ankles and Carving. they complement each other. Practice more off road , grass and dirty with bumps to loosen up the ankles. Tight ankles = fatigue calves and feet. I get about 18 miles per ride on average, I used to brake every 6 miles or so but now don't stop until I have to go charge. Great videos Jimmy. Hello from Canada! Ehh! lol
On my first month or two of onewheeling my feet would start killing me every 10-15 minutes and my solution was to come to a stop and shake my feet out. After watching your video about carving and when you got your first onewheel I realized carving could really help me. After that I completely changed my riding style and tried to carve everywhere I went. Recently my feet have been really sore and I think its because of the large amount of riding ive been doing. I am looking to buy a concave rear footpad to help but in conclusion, carving was the key for me.
My opinion based on experience: 1. Carving helps delays foot fatigue. Similar to moving around during planks :) 2. Stop to rest and shake, to recover mid ride. 3. Keep riding. Just like any other (isometric) exercises, it'll get better the more we do it. As far as OW accessories, specifically foot pads, I can't grasp how curvature and angle can reduce foot fatigue. One possibility is padding to dampen vibration. But I'm curious to hear your explanation the scientific explanation of how these footpads can reduce foot fatigue. Looking forward to the next video.
@@freshlycharged oh, so it enhances the effectiveness of carving in delaying foot fatigue. I can see that. Thanks! Do you think the the value justifies the ~$100 pricetag?
Self myofascial release might help. Place a lacrosse ball (or a tennis ball for a mild version) under the arch of your foot. Lean forward and apply weight on the ball. Slowly roll the ball back and forth along the arch of your foot for about 30-60 seconds each foot and repeat a few times. Throw this into your morning routine while brushing your teeth... not while riding the Onewheel!
What I've found interesting is that since getting the Kush Hi, now my front foot experiences more fatigue. I've been playing around with my stance quite a bit and even have noticed that the more I turn my torso to face the front, the more front foot fatigue I experience. So adjusting my torso to be slightly more side facing, which means my torso and legs are facing the same direction, is better on my front foot. I think that padding on the back is helpful, but it is in no way the all in solution. There are so many variables. Great video, Jimmy!
I noticed the same thing! Installed the front VCS, and it didn't do the trick in comparison to a Kush Hi... So I put a Kush Hi on my front foot pad. Haven't been able to do a test ride, but around the apartment it's a huge improvement.
@@GreggBolinger You're not really doing anything terribly different than installing the VCS, I left a comment explaining it briefly. But basically after you remove the grip tape, you want to use double sided mounting tape that uses a thin foam medium (like on a gopro). This is important because it's heavier and gives some standoff between the sensor and the Kush.
I lived near Garden of the Gods a few years ago due to my job. I would run and take my bike out there. Wish I had a OneWheel at the time. I have a One Wheel XR. Can't wait to go back. Your videos are great.
You know what I recommend for it is lifting weights(squats, deadlifts, lunges etc..), doing core exercises and just keeping in shape. I have had zero foot fatigue and only my first couple times riding getting my balancing muscles in shape for it. Literally, I can ride for 10 miles straight and not even bat an eye. Mind you I am 52 and have been exercising for a long time. May seem a little extreme but in the end, you will be a healthier individual ;). Well, at least this works for me!
All of these different footpad materials are like taking fat burn pills and just expecting to lose weight. I agree the only way to reduce muscle fatigue....is to make the muscles stronger through excercise.
Great video Jimmy. I've got just under 20mi on the Pint now and my last ride I was having major foot fatigue. Bad enough I had to stop ever few minutes into the ride. Then I changed up my stance to have more of my heels on the deck and it made it so much better. I'm used to an aggressive concave on my longboard and had the same foot fatigue on it. I feel like the key to having less fatigue is getting off your toes so you don't stress the arch of the foot as much.
I've been using the one tail extreme since my first video and the aggressive lip allows for those significant last second board movements. Great comparrison and information as always, Jimmy!
Jimmy, I switched to KUSH HI with ProRide SUP pads and my rear foot rarely gets fatigued now, like almost none. SUP Pads are a must for anyone wanting to mitigate foot fatigue. I ordered Flight Fins new front pad concave system...very anxious about it, but IM sick of my rides getting cut short because my front foot hurts so much.
For me it’s shoes! A thicker sole shoe prevents foot cramp for me . I tried Chuck Taylor converse and foot cramp within 5 minutes , I wear a Nike marksmen high top no foot cramp, Also I use flight fins and hug them while I’m riding , so high tops are a must. If you have the stock XR back foot pad , put some grip tape over the bare wood, only have the foot pad is grip taped for some odd reason , I added it and it helps.
What has helped me the most is to wear gym shoes versus skater shoes. As a flat footed person, I don't have a lot of arch support, so standing for long periods of time kills my feet. I found a duck stance with comfy cushy gym shoes helped a lot! - (From my 3 Weeks of OneWheel experience)
Keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
that foot fatigue in my opinion.. is because of the long use of that onewheel. it isnt a replacement for a car nor a bike to be use in a long trip., more advisable is to use a bike if you dont have a car and want to stroll that far because youre sitting, and not putting all stress and all your weight for a long hours standing and balancing.. try travelling same distance using a bike and youll have no foot fatigue. onewheel is built for a long travel but not advisable to our legs and foot standing and balancing that long.. thats the answer 90% correct for sure. i love onewheel also your videos and reviews bro. keep it up 👌
A comment on foot fatigue. Much can be removed by improved ride style and conditioning. In an ideal riding position, the feet and ankles are only used to maintain your core vertical balance. The board movement should be achieved by shifting weight with your hips. When you lean your whole body, it requires your feet to maintain the balance between the board and your body mass. Ideally your torso stays somewhat vertical as your board and lower body perform much of the carve. This way you are using your center of gravity to efficiently carve rather than the strength of your feet and ankles. This takes time and practice but proper ride style has removed 100% of my foot pains. Safe riding!
Can't speak to foot fatigue in OneWheel, but it sure is a thing with an EUC. And probably the only thing to really help it is conditioning by riding the EUC regularly. Being 20 years old would probably also help.
Update - I read that shifting foot pressure around (as opposed to keeping both feet planted and applying pressure evenly on both pedals) can help reduce foot fatigue and tried the technique over the weekend. It seems to have worked remarkably well. Don't know if this could translate to OneWheel, but for any EUC riders with foot pain, give it a try! Jimmy Chang - I wish you would do more EUC content. There are so many more choices when compared to OneWheel offerings.
Awwww you didn't try the front out! It would have been good if you had went over how to install it though. (remove grip tape, apply double sided tape, place the front VCS, and then grip tape, and then super glue it all together to seal). I didn't find it offered enough concavity like the Kush Hi i have in the rear. But I did take the same mounting concept and apply it with another Kush Hi.
Oh snap u were in co springs dope I live there and watching your vids I made me get a pint and I will have an Xr not too long and the second place I took my pint was garden of the gods keep up the good content
I want to tell you that my Unicycle Inmotion V8 tire is flat. And it was not necessary to disassemble the wheel or disconnect the electrical circuits. It is sufficient to remove the tire(neumatico) with 2 flat screwdrivers; put the patch on and re-insert the tire(neumatico) Inflate the tire and GO !!!
I developed really bad feet issues from riding the Evolve Bamboo esk8 for my commutes. The board deck is concave and many of my friends developed similar issues vs the flat carbon model. A year later and the pain/tightness hasn't subsided and I had to buy a foot stretching device for people who suffer from plantar facisitis.
Thank you for all the content you post Jimmy! It's helped me fall in love with my OW XR all over again mate. Do you use different pads to mix things up and keep the rides interesting? So you don't get too used to just one back foot pad. A bit like varying your squat stance if you like. I'm a bit like you, and don't like messing with the front pads.
I have only had my Pint under a month, but am riding as much as I can. I love the discussion here, and am curious to try a rear foot pad, but Jimmy's comments give me pause; I am coming to floating from decades of snowboarding, where I ride a few boards of varied length in a forward alpine stance unless it's a powder day. Due to this, I ride my Pint with my feet really hugging the fender, with my knees fairly close; would I see much gain from a foot pad? I have had a little rear foot fatigue, but only bad enough to shake it out when I had a steady climb uphill for about 2 km in a drizzle...but I thought the unknown route and the uphill slick may have increased my leg tension.
Thanks for the insight Jimmy! I agree completely on the foot fatique reasons you give. I work out consistently but don't really hit my feet like you do when riding long distance on a Onewheel. Once I did that a few times foot fatigue is much less of an issue. I am sure if I ever got serious about barefoot running I would strengthen the right muscles. All the padding in our shoes doesn't really help strengthen our feet and legs. How do you find riding the EUC long distance? It is probably less problematic regarding foot fatique.
Great question... in the EUC my feet still get tired. Not nearly as bad and only after long long rides. My new EUC coming in today has an advertised range of 70 miles on a charge!!!
@@freshlycharged Cool! Which one did you get? There are some very amazing EUCs out right now. I was blown by on my scooter by an EUC the other day and I was going 25MPH. I would like to get an EUC but I got a 40MPH power scooter instead. The Onewheel will likely be my only EUC in the near term.
Keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
Great video and at the right time! I just got my Pint and began to experience foot fatigue. It is usually on my rear foot so it is nice to know I am not the only one. It was also nice to know there are other third-party accessory vendors besides OW and Craft and Ride which are a bit expensive in my opinion. I noticed your fender, can you tell us who makes it or if there are inexpensive ones out there?
Keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
the for trying the Cobra...I was curious also.....I dont ride with my back foot so far back, maybe closer to the middle....but judging from the design....seems to absorb the vibration of the road...with its foundation material....
Great info! .....a small request. Can do follow up on the grey Cush foam pad that came with the viper? I’ve had a cobra with pro ride pads for about 6 months.....without the first 3 weeks I shredded em pretty bad! They were $50 I think....an kinda junk quality, however still much more comfortable than without, so I keep em on still . So , jus curious if maybe different materials and life span. I know I definitely move my feet around quite a lot as I am a somewhat aggressive rider. 🤷♂️ Aloha 🤙
I guess it all depends on the individual. I've tried the extreme pad cause I read a bunch of bad reviews on the viper, but my brother in law says his Viper pad works better for him than my extreme pad. So its obvious everyone is different. I hope you find what works best for you. 👍🏾🤙🏾
Hi Jimmy, I was wondering why footpad makers only make pads for just the rear? why not pads for both front/rear? because of the sensor? Means 1 foot would be comfortable while the other would stay the same? Thanks.
I looked into some other brands of foot boards and i for some reason thought that the other companies would charge less than future motion does for there replacements.. Jimmy can you get a hold of the other tail pieces that FM makes....? They have more aggressive tails as well> great video, thanks
Hey Jimmy, do you think it'd feel weird to use the Kush Hi rear foot pad paired with the Front Viper Concave overlay? Just considering the front Viper overlay goes on top of the stock foot pad, whereas the Kush Hi rear foot pad replaces the stock rear pad entirely? Wondering if it wouldn't feel level. Thanks for your help!
Jimmy, for your next video could you please do a side by side speed comparison with the XR and Pint? I’m at a crossroad with the Pint and the XR. Thanks for the insightful videos, much love from Cali
I was in the same boat after I ordered my pint but honestly everything I’ve seen and read points to the pint because of the design, reliability, price and just overall newer tech. Speed wise you honestly almost never hit top speed unless all you wanna do is hit straightaways but I wouldn’t recommend it for that. This thing just doesn’t feel safe when you’re flying on it.
Hatred IV Definitely worth it. It’s terrifying at first not gonna lie lol but after some time on it you get over the fear and start wanting to take it different places. Definitely recommended taking it to an open field and riding on grass until you feel comfortable enough to take it on pavement. Plus, you’re going to dump it a bunch the first few times and grass helps preserve it for the first few falls. You will fall at some point and grass is way more forgiving too. I did a sliding dive to home plate and was thankful as hell it was on grass when I was first riding mine.
For EUC...foot fatigue is reduced by learning how to ride with 1 foot. For onewheel, i guess it is trickier. I was hoping for a solution working also for EUC. But no miracle, and only specific solution to onewheel. 🤔
With a OneWheel just keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
Wide stance: more body movement for desired input.(Beginner) Close stance: less body movement. (Advanced) Feet at 90°: better stability/less comfort. Feet at 45°: Opposite. Back foot gets strained. Feet at 0°/360°: You are crazy. But you won't be crankin your neck at all ;D Pressure on opposite heel and toe has a perfect balance point for a given terrain. Don't go too hardcore on adding or subtracting pressure. More pressure: Higher fatigue, less wobbles. (For caution on unknown trail/offroading/speeding) Less pressure: Opposite.(Known roads/smooth surfaces/carving, kind of.) Experimenting takes up too much enjoyment. Hope this helps someone.
See this excellent video on stance.. You can visually see the board is much more responsive with a narrow stance compared to a wide stance which is better also if course for avoiding nose dives as well as using flight fins: ruclips.net/video/Y9KfQgS_hbM/видео.html
I started riding close-stance recently, it was recommended from the dude I got my board from but I didn't feel super comfortable until about 250miles. Now I gotta try the "off-the-board" placement he was talking about in the video. It was crazy seeing him turn so tight in that little office. Thanks for the link dude, I wish I saw that sooner.
@@steviepii yeah.. a narrow stance does take some getting used to especially if you're used to a wider stance snowboarding but it is definitely more effective and safer on a OneWheel
200 dollars for a footpad? Try something like Loaded Pushin Cushin for longboards, it's still expensive for what it is because loaded is an inherently expensive brand though it makes its own concave around your foot and provides some fatigue resistance.
Craft and ride magnetic fender. As far as I know there's only magnetic one on the market. I have the cheapest one, from The float life. It's simple and won't crack. 4ea hand threaded hardware.
@@freshlycharged Thanks so much! I love riding with a fender. But every time I let someone new to a Onewheel try mine they tend to send it flying when they try to jump off, causing my official fender to break near the connection points. This would be great, because I could just pop it off when I'm letting someone try it. Thanks!
Your feet gets fatigue because your pushing down and the board isn't straight. On my pint I ride elevated its straight and never get tired feet. But on hills it will hurt because your pushing hard.
Anyone try out the front concave pad? I'm having trouble engaging the XR (front nose just hits the ground and is not consistently responding when getting on). And when the XR is engaged, it randomly disengages when balancing in place (more frequently than without the front pad).
Way way too much angle and height on the tail IMO. I could literally not ride with this since where I live i often ride hill bombs that are steep enough that I need to set the nose with 2% dive or else I would completely tail slide and dig.. not control able for another 150 feet of decent... seriously if you have never set the nose to dive profile for steep things then you need to go and ride some steep stuff... its amaze ballz. ( dont pick really sustained drops at first, to limit your practice bails to not too train wreck ) if your feet are gettig tired then ride with the front of your foot smack on the center line and both sensors, you can surf on your toes like this and angles and sudden trail features/off camber shifts can be taken quicker with better control ( you just have to know how to trust the feeling of total chaos below for a second and KNOW the board will be okay as long as you DONT STIFFEN UP, stay loose ) ride with your back foot off the toe side edge just slightly, thus... when on off camber stuff you can apply either heel or tow force with your trailing foot and it will fulcrum off the ball of your foot on the leading foot... you will know what im talking about when you feel it, just like the teflon tape for the vibrations I suggested long ago, trust me on this one jimmy :) Ohhh yeah, the whole point of that rant was also that riding ( or shifting to riding like this periodically on a ride ) keeps your feel moving more and active so they dont get tired in the same way. ;) Great video.
Keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
This video can be misleading now. I got my kush hi about a year ago and it wasn't soft or flexible at all. It was a hard solid piece of plastic and not what I expected. They must have changed it from the soft flexible material in the video to a hard plastic.
Keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
I have the viper vcs front footpad. And love it.. Game changer but myself and at least two of my other local OneWheeler friends' viper pads have started to peel away (in my case just after 3 rides).. I think because it's wider than the pad and takes the knocks with the inevitable tumbles our boards take, especially off road.. the go2 glue doesn't hold well enough.. Needs a stronger glue since it's glued/stuck down on the edges only as opposed to across the entire pad.. See chat about it here: m.facebook.com/groups/1743244879297408?view=permalink&id=2414103445544878 I also have the Cobra rear pad.. How does the viper rear pad compare to the Cobra?
Good to know about the VCS. The Viper had the same shape as the Cobra. Feels very similar. Can't tell if the sponginess of the pad is from the grip I put on or from the pad itself tho.
@@freshlycharged ok thanks was wondering if I should get the viper rear pad as well for extra sponginess but think I'll stick with the Cobra for now..a better glue may hold the viper vcs front pad.. Trying to figure that out now but be careful if using another glue as once on may not be able to remove without damaging the sensor but it's so great when it works, I don't see why I would want to remove it
@@justinspirational I used a polyurethane based cement/epoxy to fill the gap between the VCS and foot pad. As I doubted that "super glue" was a good long term answer.
@@LeungKenP how long have you had it installed that way? Been off road/had any tumbles knocking at it to test the strength of the bond? Do you have a link to the specific glue you used please? Did you put this glue on the underside of the vcs where it's clamped to the footpad plastic cover covering the sensor or did you use the specified go2 glue there and only this glue you refer to on the outside once clamped together to make it easier to remove should you need to later on? You still use the adhesive strips it came with and put the glue still on the outside edge and not on the strips? Thanks for clarifying as I can't have the pad keep coming away recurringly and having to constantly reapply especially with the 3 day specified Loctite GO2 glue curing time.. Haven't been able to ride for several days because of this and it sucks but when it is solidly attached it is a game changer..
@@justinspirational I've taken it for a few laps around the block. Normal oopsy tumbles so far seems fine, but i haven't really gotten to ride much the last few weeks or offroad due to an unrelated injury. I didn't use super glue at all. I used the glue more as a sealant/filler so it's keeping the sensor sealed, and holding it together. Basically mounted it with tape, then filled the glue in flush, and threw a box of canned goods on it for a day. I think a silicone based adhesive might work well also because the VCS might deform too much in the long run. But silicone wouldn't work as well, for what I wanted. s that plastic cover sheet is exposed and to seal the wood, as I wasn't going to be able to do the rest of the waterproofing with the VCS from the Badgerwheel kit. But I also did get another footpad and am applying the same mounting concept with a Kush Hi... :D www.amazon.com/Loctite-Polyurethane-Construction-Adhesive-1451588/dp/B00518KORU?ref_=ast_bbp_dp
Ken Luzar yeah it’s pretty bullshit price wise. It’s for people that can casually get it. I mean 75 for a piece of plastic is just robbery. That’s like a 1200% markup and I’m being conservative. The plastic and molding prolly cost 1.50 max.
The body is not designed to move like this. I’m worried other about side effects. Twisted balls can happen if you carve a ton with loose undies!!!! This happened to a cyclist buddy and I have felt some weird pains that had me super worried! Remember we are the guinea pigs on these things....
Why I want this contour fender because one I need one I don’t even have any second I just purchase a used board third I did suscribe to Jimmy you tube channel. I just hope I can win the fender thank you. #onewheel
Cobra HAD been my favorite to date (between stock, OTE and Kush) but I upgraded to the Viper while down at FLF3. I went with the standard grip since I ride trails so much. WOW! I don't know why anyone would buy the Cobra now. Like you said, it's very similar but that little bit of squish is sooo nice!
BTW, sock game strong, Austin would be proud!
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just got the onewheel pint. my feet hurt. At least I know I'm not alone. Cheers
Photogromer you think that’s bad, I’ve got the v1 and there flat!!!😬
I think the biggest causes are not being loose and not carving enough. Carving constantly allows your foot to move and increase blood flow.
Agree!
I carve the shit out of my pint and I can go like 4 miles before I have to get off and stop. I'm only at a 100mi though so maybe it'll get better. Everyone seems to make carving the panacea for all things foot ache.
I can ride trails longer than streets based on foot-fatigue because of constant foot shift... And I'm usually hopping off when things get extra dicey too.
BUT, my legs in general can't handle trail as long as smooth paved surfaces 😉
You're probably a bit too tense offroad. I've learned you really need to be pretty loose to ride on the trails well. You want to let your legs be loose and act like shock absorbers.
@@andrewc662 maybe... I'm still suffering from DOMS (especially in my calfs) two days after an 11 mile run with my XR on the same trail I did a 7 mile test run with the Pint (no muscle soreness from that ride). In the past, I've done 14 miles street on XR no problems.
But I run a super busy lifestyle and don't do big long runs, especially Offroad runs much. I may have pushed it too much on that 11 mile run as I hadn't floated in over a week.
If you got time, Check my more recent posts on my channel for footage of the trail I rode, testing the Pint's range, getting a little rowdy for a busy father of 6 😎
Edit: "Offroad" and "trail" can be subjective. Every trail is different, some more rugged than others.
I need to stretch more mostly!... And ride more😉
Ohhh and I forgot that I rode more later that day too... Probably rode total of 20 miles that day. 11 of it being Offroad... Ya, that'll do it. Nevertheless I remember being pretty beef after the 11 mile compared to the 7 Mile
Great vid. I thought I was alone in my foot fatigue. I'm an older Onewheeler and assumed all you young bucks don't have a fatigue issue. Glad that you included the foot anatomy details as well. Ultimately, it's like any other exercise - build stamina over time. However, I've noticed that my rear foot fatigues more quickly each time I ride.
I never rode a board before this year. I bought the XR mid June now have close to 900 miles. I have the kush low on my board I do not get much foot fatigue anymore.
Two Biggest keys in not getting the fatigue in my opinion is, lose ankles and Carving. they complement each other. Practice more off road , grass and dirty with bumps to loosen up the ankles. Tight ankles = fatigue calves and feet.
I get about 18 miles per ride on average, I used to brake every 6 miles or so but now don't stop until I have to go charge.
Great videos Jimmy.
Hello from Canada! Ehh! lol
On my first month or two of onewheeling my feet would start killing me every 10-15 minutes and my solution was to come to a stop and shake my feet out. After watching your video about carving and when you got your first onewheel I realized carving could really help me. After that I completely changed my riding style and tried to carve everywhere I went. Recently my feet have been really sore and I think its because of the large amount of riding ive been doing. I am looking to buy a concave rear footpad to help but in conclusion, carving was the key for me.
Carving is King! That old video way one of my first and it's so ghetto I love it.
My opinion based on experience:
1. Carving helps delays foot fatigue. Similar to moving around during planks :)
2. Stop to rest and shake, to recover mid ride.
3. Keep riding. Just like any other (isometric) exercises, it'll get better the more we do it.
As far as OW accessories, specifically foot pads, I can't grasp how curvature and angle can reduce foot fatigue. One possibility is padding to dampen vibration. But I'm curious to hear your explanation the scientific explanation of how these footpads can reduce foot fatigue.
Looking forward to the next video.
Great insightful comment. I think the concavity helps your feet feel more secure when deep carving. More carving, less fatigue.
@@freshlycharged oh, so it enhances the effectiveness of carving in delaying foot fatigue. I can see that. Thanks!
Do you think the the value justifies the ~$100 pricetag?
@@mj005 can't give away to much of part 2 of this video. 😉
Self myofascial release might help. Place a lacrosse ball (or a tennis ball for a mild version) under the arch of your foot. Lean forward and apply weight on the ball. Slowly roll the ball back and forth along the arch of your foot for about 30-60 seconds each foot and repeat a few times. Throw this into your morning routine while brushing your teeth... not while riding the Onewheel!
What I've found interesting is that since getting the Kush Hi, now my front foot experiences more fatigue. I've been playing around with my stance quite a bit and even have noticed that the more I turn my torso to face the front, the more front foot fatigue I experience. So adjusting my torso to be slightly more side facing, which means my torso and legs are facing the same direction, is better on my front foot. I think that padding on the back is helpful, but it is in no way the all in solution. There are so many variables. Great video, Jimmy!
I wonder if your front foot is getting fatigued AND jealous because it doesn't get any Kush action like the back.
I noticed the same thing! Installed the front VCS, and it didn't do the trick in comparison to a Kush Hi... So I put a Kush Hi on my front foot pad. Haven't been able to do a test ride, but around the apartment it's a huge improvement.
Jimmy, haha,. Maybe so. Ken, interesting. I might have to give that a shot. A little nervous to jack with sensor pad.
@@GreggBolinger You're not really doing anything terribly different than installing the VCS, I left a comment explaining it briefly. But basically after you remove the grip tape, you want to use double sided mounting tape that uses a thin foam medium (like on a gopro). This is important because it's heavier and gives some standoff between the sensor and the Kush.
I lived near Garden of the Gods a few years ago due to my job. I would run and take my bike out there. Wish I had a OneWheel at the time. I have a One Wheel XR. Can't wait to go back. Your videos are great.
You know what I recommend for it is lifting weights(squats, deadlifts, lunges etc..), doing core exercises and just keeping in shape. I have had zero foot fatigue and only my first couple times riding getting my balancing muscles in shape for it. Literally, I can ride for 10 miles straight and not even bat an eye. Mind you I am 52 and have been exercising for a long time. May seem a little extreme but in the end, you will be a healthier individual ;). Well, at least this works for me!
All of these different footpad materials are like taking fat burn pills and just expecting to lose weight. I agree the only way to reduce muscle fatigue....is to make the muscles stronger through excercise.
Great video Jimmy. I've got just under 20mi on the Pint now and my last ride I was having major foot fatigue. Bad enough I had to stop ever few minutes into the ride. Then I changed up my stance to have more of my heels on the deck and it made it so much better. I'm used to an aggressive concave on my longboard and had the same foot fatigue on it. I feel like the key to having less fatigue is getting off your toes so you don't stress the arch of the foot as much.
I've been using the one tail extreme since my first video and the aggressive lip allows for those significant last second board movements. Great comparrison and information as always, Jimmy!
Love the videos Jimmy! I'm in Colorado Springs as well. Got 150miles on my onewheel since I got it five weeks ago
Garden of the gods footage looks sick, I dig it
Thanks for this video! I'm a new Pint rider and loved this info! Keep it up!
Jimmy, I switched to KUSH HI with ProRide SUP pads and my rear foot rarely gets fatigued now, like almost none. SUP Pads are a must for anyone wanting to mitigate foot fatigue. I ordered Flight Fins new front pad concave system...very anxious about it, but IM sick of my rides getting cut short because my front foot hurts so much.
Let me know how it goes for you!
For me it’s shoes! A thicker sole shoe prevents foot cramp for me . I tried Chuck Taylor converse and foot cramp within 5 minutes , I wear a Nike marksmen high top no foot cramp, Also I use flight fins and hug them while I’m riding , so high tops are a must. If you have the stock XR back foot pad , put some grip tape over the bare wood, only have the foot pad is grip taped for some odd reason , I added it and it helps.
What has helped me the most is to wear gym shoes versus skater shoes. As a flat footed person, I don't have a lot of arch support, so standing for long periods of time kills my feet. I found a duck stance with comfy cushy gym shoes helped a lot! - (From my 3 Weeks of OneWheel experience)
Keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
that foot fatigue in my opinion.. is because of the long use of that onewheel. it isnt a replacement for a car nor a bike to be use in a long trip., more advisable is to use a bike if you dont have a car and want to stroll that far because youre sitting, and not putting all stress and all your weight for a long hours standing and balancing.. try travelling same distance using a bike and youll have no foot fatigue.
onewheel is built for a long travel but not advisable to our legs and foot standing and balancing that long.. thats the answer 90% correct for sure.
i love onewheel also your videos and reviews bro. keep it up 👌
A comment on foot fatigue. Much can be removed by improved ride style and conditioning. In an ideal riding position, the feet and ankles are only used to maintain your core vertical balance. The board movement should be achieved by shifting weight with your hips. When you lean your whole body, it requires your feet to maintain the balance between the board and your body mass. Ideally your torso stays somewhat vertical as your board and lower body perform much of the carve. This way you are using your center of gravity to efficiently carve rather than the strength of your feet and ankles. This takes time and practice but proper ride style has removed 100% of my foot pains. Safe riding!
Can't speak to foot fatigue in OneWheel, but it sure is a thing with an EUC. And probably the only thing to really help it is conditioning by riding the EUC regularly. Being 20 years old would probably also help.
Update - I read that shifting foot pressure around (as opposed to keeping both feet planted and applying pressure evenly on both pedals) can help reduce foot fatigue and tried the technique over the weekend. It seems to have worked remarkably well. Don't know if this could translate to OneWheel, but for any EUC riders with foot pain, give it a try! Jimmy Chang - I wish you would do more EUC content. There are so many more choices when compared to OneWheel offerings.
Awwww you didn't try the front out! It would have been good if you had went over how to install it though. (remove grip tape, apply double sided tape, place the front VCS, and then grip tape, and then super glue it all together to seal). I didn't find it offered enough concavity like the Kush Hi i have in the rear. But I did take the same mounting concept and apply it with another Kush Hi.
Oh snap u were in co springs dope I live there and watching your vids I made me get a pint and I will have an Xr not too long and the second place I took my pint was garden of the gods keep up the good content
I want to tell you that my Unicycle Inmotion V8 tire is flat. And it was not necessary to disassemble the wheel or disconnect the electrical circuits. It is sufficient to remove the tire(neumatico) with 2 flat screwdrivers; put the patch on and re-insert the tire(neumatico) Inflate the tire and GO !!!
I developed really bad feet issues from riding the Evolve Bamboo esk8 for my commutes. The board deck is concave and many of my friends developed similar issues vs the flat carbon model. A year later and the pain/tightness hasn't subsided and I had to buy a foot stretching device for people who suffer from plantar facisitis.
Thank you for all the content you post Jimmy! It's helped me fall in love with my OW XR all over again mate.
Do you use different pads to mix things up and keep the rides interesting? So you don't get too used to just one back foot pad. A bit like varying your squat stance if you like.
I'm a bit like you, and don't like messing with the front pads.
Your sons Pewdiepie hoodie is lookin fresh in this vid.
He's pretty proud of it. Thanks for noticing. Now if only I could get him to wear my merch!
im guessing the next of their flagship will have a really aggressive tail to begin with and maybe sneak some battery cells into it
Brilliant!
I have only had my Pint under a month, but am riding as much as I can. I love the discussion here, and am curious to try a rear foot pad, but Jimmy's comments give me pause; I am coming to floating from decades of snowboarding, where I ride a few boards of varied length in a forward alpine stance unless it's a powder day. Due to this, I ride my Pint with my feet really hugging the fender, with my knees fairly close; would I see much gain from a foot pad? I have had a little rear foot fatigue, but only bad enough to shake it out when I had a steady climb uphill for about 2 km in a drizzle...but I thought the unknown route and the uphill slick may have increased my leg tension.
Thanks for the insight Jimmy! I agree completely on the foot fatique reasons you give. I work out consistently but don't really hit my feet like you do when riding long distance on a Onewheel. Once I did that a few times foot fatigue is much less of an issue. I am sure if I ever got serious about barefoot running I would strengthen the right muscles. All the padding in our shoes doesn't really help strengthen our feet and legs. How do you find riding the EUC long distance? It is probably less problematic regarding foot fatique.
Great question... in the EUC my feet still get tired. Not nearly as bad and only after long long rides. My new EUC coming in today has an advertised range of 70 miles on a charge!!!
@@freshlycharged Cool! Which one did you get? There are some very amazing EUCs out right now. I was blown by on my scooter by an EUC the other day and I was going 25MPH. I would like to get an EUC but I got a 40MPH power scooter instead. The Onewheel will likely be my only EUC in the near term.
Keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
Great video and at the right time! I just got my Pint and began to experience foot fatigue. It is usually on my rear foot so it is nice to know I am not the only one. It was also nice to know there are other third-party accessory vendors besides OW and Craft and Ride which are a bit expensive in my opinion. I noticed your fender, can you tell us who makes it or if there are inexpensive ones out there?
Keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
justinspirational gotcha I'm a beginner so I'll gradually move to carving next it looks fun. Thanks for tip and float on.
the for trying the Cobra...I was curious also.....I dont ride with my back foot so far back, maybe closer to the middle....but judging from the design....seems to absorb the vibration of the road...with its foundation material....
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Do you prefer the Kush?
Damn that look soo good how long doss the battery last ? Cuz that seems like a long ride
Great info! .....a small request. Can do follow up on the grey Cush foam pad that came with the viper? I’ve had a cobra with pro ride pads for about 6 months.....without the first 3 weeks I shredded em pretty bad! They were $50 I think....an kinda junk quality, however still much more comfortable than without, so I keep em on still . So , jus curious if maybe different materials and life span. I know I definitely move my feet around quite a lot as I am a somewhat aggressive rider. 🤷♂️
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Personally, I still don't know what to choose between this Viper pad and the Onetail Extreme Pad...
I guess it all depends on the individual. I've tried the extreme pad cause I read a bunch of bad reviews on the viper, but my brother in law says his Viper pad works better for him than my extreme pad. So its obvious everyone is different. I hope you find what works best for you. 👍🏾🤙🏾
I’d love having some grip like that for the pint
Hi Jimmy, I was wondering why footpad makers only make pads for just the rear? why not pads for both front/rear? because of the sensor? Means 1 foot would be comfortable while the other would stay the same? Thanks.
I looked into some other brands of foot boards and i for some reason thought that the other companies would charge less than future motion does for there replacements.. Jimmy can you get a hold of the other tail pieces that FM makes....? They have more aggressive tails as well> great video, thanks
Hey Jimmy, do you think it'd feel weird to use the Kush Hi rear foot pad paired with the Front Viper Concave overlay? Just considering the front Viper overlay goes on top of the stock foot pad, whereas the Kush Hi rear foot pad replaces the stock rear pad entirely? Wondering if it wouldn't feel level. Thanks for your help!
Jimmy, for your next video could you please do a side by side speed comparison with the XR and Pint? I’m at a crossroad with the Pint and the XR. Thanks for the insightful videos, much love from Cali
I was in the same boat after I ordered my pint but honestly everything I’ve seen and read points to the pint because of the design, reliability, price and just overall newer tech. Speed wise you honestly almost never hit top speed unless all you wanna do is hit straightaways but I wouldn’t recommend it for that. This thing just doesn’t feel safe when you’re flying on it.
Tamir Dayya do you feel like you’ve been bamboozled or is the Pint worth it’s rack?
Hatred IV Definitely worth it. It’s terrifying at first not gonna lie lol but after some time on it you get over the fear and start wanting to take it different places. Definitely recommended taking it to an open field and riding on grass until you feel comfortable enough to take it on pavement. Plus, you’re going to dump it a bunch the first few times and grass helps preserve it for the first few falls. You will fall at some point and grass is way more forgiving too. I did a sliding dive to home plate and was thankful as hell it was on grass when I was first riding mine.
For EUC...foot fatigue is reduced by learning how to ride with 1 foot. For onewheel, i guess it is trickier. I was hoping for a solution working also for EUC. But no miracle, and only specific solution to onewheel. 🤔
With a OneWheel just keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
It's my front lead leg that experiences foot fatigue not my rear. I'm probably going to have to buy 2 one for the front and one for the back
Wide stance: more body movement for desired input.(Beginner)
Close stance: less body movement.
(Advanced)
Feet at 90°: better stability/less comfort.
Feet at 45°: Opposite. Back foot gets strained.
Feet at 0°/360°: You are crazy. But you won't be crankin your neck at all ;D
Pressure on opposite heel and toe has a perfect balance point for a given terrain. Don't go too hardcore on adding or subtracting pressure.
More pressure: Higher fatigue, less wobbles. (For caution on unknown trail/offroading/speeding)
Less pressure: Opposite.(Known roads/smooth surfaces/carving, kind of.)
Experimenting takes up too much enjoyment. Hope this helps someone.
A narrow stance is actually much more responsive than a wider stance
Wow. Great tips! Thanks.
See this excellent video on stance.. You can visually see the board is much more responsive with a narrow stance compared to a wide stance which is better also if course for avoiding nose dives as well as using flight fins: ruclips.net/video/Y9KfQgS_hbM/видео.html
I started riding close-stance recently, it was recommended from the dude I got my board from but I didn't feel super comfortable until about 250miles.
Now I gotta try the "off-the-board" placement he was talking about in the video. It was crazy seeing him turn so tight in that little office.
Thanks for the link dude, I wish I saw that sooner.
@@steviepii yeah.. a narrow stance does take some getting used to especially if you're used to a wider stance snowboarding but it is definitely more effective and safer on a OneWheel
Jimmy sounds like a eye doctor
200 dollars for a footpad?
Try something like Loaded Pushin Cushin for longboards, it's still expensive for what it is because loaded is an inherently expensive brand though it makes its own concave around your foot and provides some fatigue resistance.
Wondering if you know where I can get those fang wheels that you have on the X-ray and do they work on the pint do you know great vids btw !
Good deal😁👌
Jimmy do you find these pads help?
Is it flexible like Kush?
Nice
are you using fang mini or normal size fangs?
Can you point me toward info on that orange fender? I'm curious about how it just snaps in place and looks like it's easily removable. Thanks!
Craft and ride magnetic fender. As far as I know there's only magnetic one on the market.
I have the cheapest one, from The float life. It's simple and won't crack. 4ea hand threaded hardware.
ruclips.net/video/yZKrFPy1elQ/видео.html
@@steviepii Thanks for the reply! I intended to do some googling when I got home, this'll make that search a lot quicker. Cheers!
@@freshlycharged Thanks so much! I love riding with a fender. But every time I let someone new to a Onewheel try mine they tend to send it flying when they try to jump off, causing my official fender to break near the connection points. This would be great, because I could just pop it off when I'm letting someone try it. Thanks!
Your feet gets fatigue because your pushing down and the board isn't straight. On my pint I ride elevated its straight and never get tired feet. But on hills it will hurt because your pushing hard.
Anyone try out the front concave pad? I'm having trouble engaging the XR (front nose just hits the ground and is not consistently responding when getting on). And when the XR is engaged, it randomly disengages when balancing in place (more frequently than without the front pad).
does it work whit the onewheel v1 ??
Way way too much angle and height on the tail IMO. I could literally not ride with this since where I live i often ride hill bombs that are steep enough that I need to set the nose with 2% dive or else I would completely tail slide and dig.. not control able for another 150 feet of decent... seriously if you have never set the nose to dive profile for steep things then you need to go and ride some steep stuff... its amaze ballz. ( dont pick really sustained drops at first, to limit your practice bails to not too train wreck ) if your feet are gettig tired then ride with the front of your foot smack on the center line and both sensors, you can surf on your toes like this and angles and sudden trail features/off camber shifts can be taken quicker with better control ( you just have to know how to trust the feeling of total chaos below for a second and KNOW the board will be okay as long as you DONT STIFFEN UP, stay loose ) ride with your back foot off the toe side edge just slightly, thus... when on off camber stuff you can apply either heel or tow force with your trailing foot and it will fulcrum off the ball of your foot on the leading foot... you will know what im talking about when you feel it, just like the teflon tape for the vibrations I suggested long ago, trust me on this one jimmy :) Ohhh yeah, the whole point of that rant was also that riding ( or shifting to riding like this periodically on a ride ) keeps your feel moving more and active so they dont get tired in the same way. ;)
Great video.
Why is there so manny people at the end 3rd tho haha
Were did you get that top fender
craft and ride
My feet start feeling like I'm standing on a fire after about 8 miles or so. Odd.
Keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
This video can be misleading now. I got my kush hi about a year ago and it wasn't soft or flexible at all. It was a hard solid piece of plastic and not what I expected. They must have changed it from the soft flexible material in the video to a hard plastic.
Foot fatigue sucks
Keep carving and avoid riding in straight lines for too long . Carving helps relieve foot pressure, feels great, is fun, loosens you up and makes you a better rider.. Plus like my comment and tip above get a balance board for year round balance and foot conditioning at home like the vew do range that uniquely works both the heel/toe and nose/tail axes simultaneously. Great for getting better at any board sport
Yooo dope
I have the viper vcs front footpad. And love it.. Game changer but myself and at least two of my other local OneWheeler friends' viper pads have started to peel away (in my case just after 3 rides).. I think because it's wider than the pad and takes the knocks with the inevitable tumbles our boards take, especially off road.. the go2 glue doesn't hold well enough.. Needs a stronger glue since it's glued/stuck down on the edges only as opposed to across the entire pad.. See chat about it here: m.facebook.com/groups/1743244879297408?view=permalink&id=2414103445544878 I also have the Cobra rear pad.. How does the viper rear pad compare to the Cobra?
Good to know about the VCS. The Viper had the same shape as the Cobra. Feels very similar. Can't tell if the sponginess of the pad is from the grip I put on or from the pad itself tho.
@@freshlycharged ok thanks was wondering if I should get the viper rear pad as well for extra sponginess but think I'll stick with the Cobra for now..a better glue may hold the viper vcs front pad.. Trying to figure that out now but be careful if using another glue as once on may not be able to remove without damaging the sensor but it's so great when it works, I don't see why I would want to remove it
@@justinspirational I used a polyurethane based cement/epoxy to fill the gap between the VCS and foot pad. As I doubted that "super glue" was a good long term answer.
@@LeungKenP how long have you had it installed that way? Been off road/had any tumbles knocking at it to test the strength of the bond? Do you have a link to the specific glue you used please? Did you put this glue on the underside of the vcs where it's clamped to the footpad plastic cover covering the sensor or did you use the specified go2 glue there and only this glue you refer to on the outside once clamped together to make it easier to remove should you need to later on? You still use the adhesive strips it came with and put the glue still on the outside edge and not on the strips? Thanks for clarifying as I can't have the pad keep coming away recurringly and having to constantly reapply especially with the 3 day specified Loctite GO2 glue curing time.. Haven't been able to ride for several days because of this and it sucks but when it is solidly attached it is a game changer..
@@justinspirational I've taken it for a few laps around the block. Normal oopsy tumbles so far seems fine, but i haven't really gotten to ride much the last few weeks or offroad due to an unrelated injury. I didn't use super glue at all. I used the glue more as a sealant/filler so it's keeping the sensor sealed, and holding it together. Basically mounted it with tape, then filled the glue in flush, and threw a box of canned goods on it for a day.
I think a silicone based adhesive might work well also because the VCS might deform too much in the long run. But silicone wouldn't work as well, for what I wanted. s that plastic cover sheet is exposed and to seal the wood, as I wasn't going to be able to do the rest of the waterproofing with the VCS from the Badgerwheel kit. But I also did get another footpad and am applying the same mounting concept with a Kush Hi... :D
www.amazon.com/Loctite-Polyurethane-Construction-Adhesive-1451588/dp/B00518KORU?ref_=ast_bbp_dp
To think I almost bought one of these...... dodged a bullet in my opinion.
I thought it said goat not god abahazs
Who calls it concavity? :D
Ok but what happened to Kate???🤔
She's in college now
Great content again. I sent you a message on your site a few weeks back, check it out.
With the prices for all the stuff that goes for this Onewheel deal, just sounds like a money pit.
Ken Luzar yeah it’s pretty bullshit price wise. It’s for people that can casually get it. I mean 75 for a piece of plastic is just robbery. That’s like a 1200% markup and I’m being conservative. The plastic and molding prolly cost 1.50 max.
The body is not designed to move like this. I’m worried other about side effects. Twisted balls can happen if you carve a ton with loose undies!!!! This happened to a cyclist buddy and I have felt some weird pains that had me super worried!
Remember we are the guinea pigs on these things....
Why I want this contour fender because one I need one I don’t even have any second I just purchase a used board third I did suscribe to Jimmy you tube channel. I just hope I can win the fender thank you. #onewheel
I think this is my least favorite for pad. The look too.. isn't really on point
Yooo haha firsssttttttt
These things seem dumb