Outsiders: How To Adapt H.P. Lovecraft In the 21st Century
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- Опубликовано: 2 июл 2018
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RUclips Videos Referenced:
• HALLOWEEN & The Suburb... - HALLOWEEN & The Suburban Nightmare (2017, Nyx Fears)
• My Monster Boyfriend - My Monster Boyfriend (2018, Lindsay Ellis) (Not referenced in the vid but it hits on some quite useful similar ground and Lindsay did that reading for me so I can't not recommend it really)
Music:
Patricia Taxxon contributed a song from her new album, Traveller, the song is called Epiphany. Check it out here! patriciataxxon.bandcamp.com/a...
All other music is taken from Epidemic Sound, with the exception of the Gremlins 2 theme and the Shape of Water theme
Films:
Cthulhu (2008 dir. Dan Gildark)
The Shape of Water (2017 dir. Guillermo Del Toro)
Gremlins 2: The New Batch (1990 dir. Joe Dante)
Nosferatu (1922, F.W. Murnau)
Shadow of the Vampire (2000, dir. E. Elias Merhige)
Lovecraft: Fear of the Unknown (2008, dir. Frank H. Woodward)
Triumph of the Will (1935, dir. Leni Riefenstahl)
Scrooge (1901, dir. Walter Booth)
Halloween and Friday the 13th films (various)
Articles:
www.sci-fi-online.com/2006_Int... - interview with Clive Barker ft. his Lovecraft opinions
io9.gizmodo.com/350284/gullie... - Article about Del Toro's plans to adapt MoM in 2010 ;_;
deadline.com/2010/07/guillerm... - another one
• Trailer - The call of ... - Call of Cthulhu fan film trailer
• Cthulhu (2007) - Trailer - trailer for the Cthulhu film
collider.com/guillermo-del-tor... - interview + article about mountains of madness
www.thepunkwriter.com/article... - Great series of articles on the 'Lovecraftian Outsider' and its Queer implications, which even covers Cthulhu 2008
www.theodysseyonline.com/how-... - Great piece by Matt Denney on the value of Edgar Allen Poe
www.pastemagazine.com/article... - jesus christ amazon is fuckin' terrible
The Genetics of Horror: Sex and Racism in H.P. Lovecraft's Fiction (Bruce Lord)
Books:
H. P. Lovecraft: Against the World, Against Life (1991, English Edition 2005, Michel Houellebecq)
Call of Cthulhu Roleplaying Game 6th Edition (Chaosium)
Necronomicon: The Best Weird Tales of H. P. Lovecraft (2008, Victor Gollancz Ltc.)
Various Collected Lovecraft Works
H.P lovecraft was terrified of two things: fish and minorities
Lovecraft was a Real Gamer™
Seems he’d be absolutely terrified watching The Little Mermaid remake
Don't forget non-euclidean geometry. Those parabolas freak him out.
Also rural Massachusetts
He lived in the late 1800's everyone was afraid of minorities back then he was normal for his day.
"How is gay life? Is it satisfying?" Is how I begin phone calls
"Anyway how's your sex life?"
It's fulfilling all right 😏
Spunk yes!
Waited for one sentence: "Yes! Hell, we have some defcon-level fun! Want some details? AND what about u?"
Perry. The dog who begins telephone conversations in a very intense way. I think you could amp it up a little though. I mean, I'd feel mildly uncomfortable if someone began a telephone conversation like that but maybe we could get people to feel really uncomfortable. Maybe something like "Hello, this is Perry. I've seen things no dog should ever see. But what's up with you?" Or maybe if you really want to lie it on thick, something more like "When I was just a young puppy, I ate a grasshopper. But it turned out I only ate half the grasshopper. The other half just lied there in the grass, unable to move but the eye that was facing me look right at me. Right into me, as if to say, all you ever knew or ever will know is a meaningless and cheap parody of reality. So I ate the other half."
Shadow over Innsmouth is actually about the horror of finding out you have welsh ancestry
Llanfairpwllgwyngyllgogerychwyrndrobwllllantysiliogogogoch.
LMFAOOOOOOO
Existential horror unlocked: Being welsh
Being Welsh is fine. All you have to do is stay away from sheep, and you're good.
Being British, on the other hand...
now that truly is an incomprehensible terror
"Holy Shit, my Teenage Literary Idol was so F*ckin Racist" is a fantastic title for the next big Japanese light novel.
kinda weird how allota white folk admire the most bigoted people consistently.
Holy Shit, my Teenage Literary Idol was so Fuckin Racist, and now I'm married to a slime girl???
Jk Rowling
@@susobamna Delusional.
@@sasaki8765 it's literally true though
"How is gay life? Is it satisfying?" My friends awkwardly trying to be nice when I came out to them
I respectfully chuckled.
It's always struck me as weird the questions people have about people who are very slightly different from them.
Not gonna lie, sometimes it's a pain in the ass
You may need new friends.
Exactly what I'm gonna say if one of my friends come out as gay.
His wife actually cited in her divorce papers that his 'antiemetic tirades' were one of the main reasons she wanted a divorce, seeing as how she would constantly need to interrupt him and remind him she was in fact Jewish.
And his aunts weren't fond of a (gasp!) businesswoman for an in-law. Not the most functional family for an independent-minded woman.
That's a rather nice little nutshell example of how bigots function and why.
@@Horatio787 I see how they function but not why. I want know more please!
Well it's simple. We have this thing called Ego, the sense of self, who you see yourself as. The ego likes to protect itself unless you think rationally and are willing to defy it to try to match it to reality instead of just obeying it. A racist who thinks their race is the best and comes across evidence proving them wrong has the choice of reducing their ego(which is difficult) or just ignoring the rational evidence and protecting their ego. If you ever wonder why someone doesn't look at things factually and seems to be completely self serving and selective with their evidence, this is why.
The Ego isn't a completely bad thing by the way, it can just become a problem.
The sad thing is, Lovecraft was so vindictive, _so_ monumentally hateful and bigoted, he refused to grant Sonia the divorce she desperately wanted. He wouldn't allow her to marry the man who actually treated her well. Until the day she died, she remained his wife, against her will.
The „what the fuck howard“ caught me so off guard cause I never considered that Lovecrafts first name wasn’t actually just HP
His name is actually Health Points
(International) House (of) Pancakes
HP Sauce? makes sense since we was such an anglophile
Hates Progress Lovecraft, to quote OSP.
Hates pocs Lovecraft
When I was in college, the orchestra (which had many Jewish members at the time) was playing Wagner. In a conversation about it, one of those Jewish orchestra members just said "I think his music is beautiful. Wagner didn't want me playing his music, so I'm going to play it." Her protest against Wagner's beliefs was to play his music.
"How is gay life? Is it satisfying?" is the new "Oh hi Mark, how's your sex life?"
Oh hai mark
My comeback to someone asking that would be "thanks for your interest but we're not recruiting at the moment"
@@santiagoorona2239one guy I've been sleeping with lately, part of his name is Hai. Shout out, sexy!
"How's the gay life? Is it satisfying?" is such a weird question. Like, no, it's not satisfying. It's life. All of it is terrible
But...wimen
🤣🤣🤣
He asks the question because he's under the impression that being gay was a choice, or possibly a failure the way this same person might believe not being able to hold down a job, being addicted to a drug, or being obese/disabled is a failure.
From that perspective, the question makes sense. "Are you satisfied with the choices you've made or the weakness you've indulged in your life?" with a sexual subtext, satisfied as in sexually.
It's still awful and homophobic, but the question makes sense when you realize the source.
@@tobender4ever no i think he's more just wondering if the sex is decent. you seem a bit crazy. not everyone hates the gays, most people are just curious.
@@hybridh9702 The main character's father being homophobic is literally a major plot point in the movie.
This means every lovecraftian god is gay cause homosexuality was a massive unknown to him, finally, my true idols have arrived!
...you know what?...that kind of tracks...
Nyarlathotep is the gay icon the world truly deserves
@@iiiiitsmagreta1240 oh yeah I definitely play Nyarthalotep in my Call Of Cathulhu 7th Edition Campaign as That BITCH **TM**
@@mistertea603 YEEEEEEEEEEESSSSS
Cthulhu is the lgbt+ representation we need nowadays
Okay, but the REAL question: *Why does every photo of Lovecraft look like he's trying to keep the frog he's holding in his mouth from escaping?*
I think the answer to that should be fairly obvious, given his body of work.
Is that what being a reactionary feels like? I like this metaphor, and shall employ it to describe tight-assed conservatives from here on out.
Wait??? How do you know about Bibbit?!??
Theres actually a proposed cause for his weird head. If I remember correctly it's related to a developmental issue or something like that? It produces a taller, thinner head and is usually pretty subtle a la Lovecraft
i would say "thats not a frog, thats the n word," but he clearly didnt try very hard to keep that one from escaping his mouth
If you ask me, Lovecraft being super bigoted was one of the reasons his work is fascinating. Because I think Lovecraft did something I think other bigoted authors never do: I think he laid all his cards on the table and actually honestly gave his real feelings about it.
He didn't really write heroic adventures about the white hero triumphing over the 'ignorant savages' or something. That's how a lot of bigoted people want to portray themselves. As heroic, as right, as better. In their eyes, they are perfectly justified. This or that is 'evil'. This or that is 'inferior'. This or that is 'disgusting'. But honestly I doubt most bigoted people are actually like that. That's the front they put on.
Lovecraft's stories are pretty much about the way I think most bigoted people actually are. His protagonists are mostly people comfortable in their own little bubble, who over the course of the story watch as that bubble bursts around them and can't handle things outside it. Lovecraft's antagonists are 'The Other'. They are not overtly morally 'evil' exactly, more like their very existence invalidates the protagonist's very concept about what morality is. Invalidates what they thought the world was. Maybe invalidates their very identity.
And in the end, there is no 'happy ending' for Lovecraft's protagonists. Sometimes their reactionary response might let them in some way 'win', sure. Sometimes. But they can't go back after that. Their perfect little bubble is gone. They know what's out their now, and they will spend the rest of their lives looking over their shoulder, fearing, doubting, nervous, knowing they can never truly win as vast uncaring forces slowly got closer.
And really, isn't that what bigotry actually is? Fear of the unknown. Of 'The Other'. I think that's kinda why Lovecraft himself sorta backed away from some of his more extreme opinions later in life. I believe there is a quote of his somewhere where he admits in a letter that his glorification of white anglo-saxon culture was in view of history just as deluded as the protagonists in his fiction about the place of humanity in the cosmos.
your comment got duplicated into 4 comments, just thought i'd let you know. fascinating take btw :)
@@raynafae Yeah not sure how, but I thought I deleted the duplicates! >_
That is a really good point
@@KilloZapit
Lovecraft is the relatable racist.
His racism is a good deal more tolerable than that of his hero Edgar Allan Poe.
@@alanpennie8013 relatable racism is such a great term lol
For reference, HP Lovecraft wasn't just a product of his time; even people back then thought Lovecraft was super racist.
someone does not know what the '20 and '30 in the USA were like. You, for instance. Racial segregation and lynching were the norm, but hey, that guy from the puritan town of Providence is super racist!
Um his wife divorced him for being too racist
Unarmed African Americans are killed by Yankee police all the time, and the internet is agush with antisemetic conspiracy theorists. OUR time is also racist, for what I hope to believe is a lesser extent. But in 50 years, would you really go around and call the likes of Alex Jones and Bannon products of OUR time? Would you WANT to?
@@tnttiger3079 I think he changed near his death
[Citation needed]
HP Lovecraft literally thought he was less than human and some of his work was inspired by his preoccupation with his nonpure lineage. What was this lineage, you might wonder? He was part Welsh.
Lovecraft was beyond racist even for his time and even a slight look at his writings make that very clear. I'd recommend the "Hitler or Lovecraft" quiz for a quick look.
"Being actually expected to prove to people that I wasn't inferior"
That statement had no excuse to be so relatable
I'd say shape of water is actually decisively anti-lovecraftian, since it is about embracing the unknown and the other, while lovecraftian works are about averting your eyes from the unknowable, uncaring universe. Definitely ripe with lovecraftian themes though, but mostly subverting them
!!! Hell yeah. The antagonist in shape of water is the kind of man lovecraft seemed to adore.
The movie is littrly abiut choosing to pull an insmith
you're so right!!
Think of it as the much more lovely flower that has blossomed from the twisted, unsightly seed.
Yes! Especially because The Shape of Water's main characters are all "others". A disabled woman, a gay man, and a black woman who all find solace and meaning in one another's company. They see the creature as something like them. Someone who is out of their element, intentionally kept in a bad situation by a domineering force that would never accept him, confused, and needs people to rely on. The story of this creature shows that the unknown is not quite so "other" and is increasingly familiar the more you learn and experience the world.
I was a huge Lovecraft fan in my early years and being mixed race to this day I find the notion that Lovecraft equated mixed people to immortal aquatic lords of darkness kinda flattering.
*Media featuring token minorities*
I want the real empowerment.
*Media featuring lead minorities*
I said the real empowerment.
*Lovecraft*
Perfection.
As an Asian American, I tend to agree. In fact I find mixing some Taoist philosophy into Yog-Sothoth super fun and inspiring.
Nihil Ego well there’s also the story were swarthy fat men move in to a town and utterly destroy and make it a bad evil shithole
Reminder that it was inspired by the horrific realization that Lovecraft was not pure blooded english, but *gasp* part welsh!
@@alejandrorivas4585
He wrote stories about people who were part fish because he was part sheep I see.
“H.P. Lovecraft would be spinning in his grave!”
Given the beliefs he held, making Lovecraft spin in his grave is a particular pass-time of mine.
novecentisch cursed maracas
Profile picture checks out
Compass profile pic. Opinion discarded.
Whenever I write Lovecraft fanfiction I get that exact comment as a compliment.
Piss off
Unfortunately I can no longer find the comment, but one of the creators of this movie actually commented on this video saying that Hbomberguy nailed it, that this video understands what they were trying to accomplish even if they fell short in some areas
I wanted to reread that message because it was so lovely and I can't find it either ):
@@nader50752 I’m glad I’m not alone, I actually came back to this video for that comment so it’s a shame it’s gone.
Same here
Oh my god I've been looking for that for like an hour. I remember the first line was like, "We make that commentary so no one would make the mistakes we did."
Dang! That's so cool that it apparently used to exist, but I'm bummed I can't find it
I always thought Lovecraft’s work was about the fear of outsiders. This video made me realise it’s the fear of being an outsider in a world you thought was your own
Two sides of the same coin
69 likes. Nice.
They are definately not. He didnt base all his stories to just his racist beliefs
There is an interesting anectode about Lovercraft's racism and antisemitism: he loathed New York, he thought it was too big, too chaotic and modern, and of course, too diverse. He grew up in a provincial town that was literally just white middle-class people, getting to a city that had all the races and all the social classes was a cultural shock. Anyway, he hated that NY was so diverse and he thought that whoever came to the US from another country should assimilate and be assimilate by the American culture and not, uh, misgenate the pure US culture. However, after a certain event, he changed idea quite drastically, and started believing that immigrants keeping their culture was actually a good thing for the American way of life, that a "pure" US culture doesn't exactly exist and that we would all benefit from meeting with other cultures.
The event was overhearing two orthodox Jews in traditional attire talking in Yiddish.
So, yeah, it may be possible that what made him realize he was a really racist and antisemitic POS even for the day's standards was realizing Jewish people were, well, people.
Oh, and he actually hated East Asians more than anything else in the world. Even his views on black people softened a tad bit, but East Asians were still the real evil to him, and I find it baffling that LITERALLY NO ONE EVER MENTIONS THIS
Yes, Lovecraft was a huge anglophile who (I think) preferred british culture to american, for example he liked to end letters he wrote with "God Save the King!"
GG Allin yup! And she and him separated because of that
@@averynerdybookworm972 It is frequently said they separated cause she moved a lot for her work and HP didn't like that. Most accounts say they were extremely civil and supportive after the divorce.
Well, obviously he hated East Asians -- it was their connection to the horrible plateau of Leng.
@Big Wee Wee Man I mean fuck colonialism, neo-colonialism, and the monarchy, but they've made some fine tv shows so they can't be all bad.
No insightful comment, just wanted to say I loved it, give it an engagement boost, and say that the homophobic Dad from the film kindof looks like Davis Aurini
HE LOOKED FAMILIAR!
Philosophy Tube You made the comment I was going to x
Welp... now .. I... need to find a copy of "Cthul(h)u" and watch it JUST to see if the dad mentions bleeding on a birthing bed or testosterone
*opens dusty cabinet, pulls out skull*
Wasn't his name Aruni?
I think ironically, by writing about how absolutely fucking terrified he was of outsiders, Lovecraft's writing resonated with those very outsiders and their lived experiences.
I remember watching this video years ago and hating it because I was super homophobic and didn't like that you talked about gay people as anything other than bad people. Growing up in American Christian fundamentalism will do that to you.
I've since had to confront these biases as I realized that I'm trans and bi. It's wild having the same reaction to this video that you had to the movie.
I'm glad I came around. Thanks for making vids, hbomb. ❤
It do be like that.
Welcome out ❤
aaaa! this made me smile a little
i hope you have a wonderful uhh day and life :)
Had me in the first half ngl
💖💙💜 💗💙🤍💙💗
Congrats on getting out from under the thumb of fundamentalism - from someone who had to do the same.
If anyone feels like watching Cthulhu 2008 because of this video, please be advised that there is a scene in which a woman rapes a gay man. I feel like that is an important thing to note.
Bless you.
Many thanks, very helpful
Ugh yeah that scene is one of the reasons I probably won't be able to watch it again anytime soon :(
@Sir Dankistan dont be a dick nobody ever said that except a hand full of shitty liberals and you know it.
Seriously? Horrific.
We stan our bisexual king
MegaShiney99 just when I thought h.bomber couldn't get any better lol
"We have decided to stan forever."
Hi, Stan!
Oh how we stan
h.bomber is our king, h.bomber is our king, that's why bisexuals sing, h.bomber is our king,
I think that Lovecraft’s stories often involve a fear of discovering in oneself that which one loathes. There’s an Internalised Oppression theme where the true terror is in empathising with and/or in becoming the loathed and feared.
Which resonates with us who have experiences of Internalised transphobia/homophobia.
There’s also perversely a comfort in the uncaring impersonal inhuman entities and threats that allow us to experience a form of horror disconnected to the very real threat of bigoted violence that we experience. It lets us experience horror in the safe way more privileged people do, as a fantasy of enjoyable illusory danger that is over when the book is closed or tv off itv theatre left.
Does...does that make The Prince of Egypt Lovecraftian horror?
He wrote Shadow Over Innsmouth after finding out he was part Welsh so that makes sense
"It lets us experience horror in the safe way more privileged people do"
The fuck does that even mean. As if you're not priviledged compared to the 90% of people to have ever lived and still live in 3rd world countries.
I don’t dispute having some forms of privilege far above some in third world countries. Because privilege isn’t binary. If you want to understand the concept read up on Intersectionalism. And keep in mind that stats support it so it’s not an argument without evidence.
@@baynemacgregor8441
A very gracious response to s very stupid comment.
Ad played in the middle of a sentence came out as “You don’t get seven sequels without TRACTOR SUPPLY”
I love when that happens
“I can’t look at Greek statues because they awaken something in me!”
Character development
*This is your reminder that Lovecraft's story The Tree is about two sculptor friends who read (through a modern eye) as incredibly homoerotic*
The Statue Made Me Bi, by John Linnel*
The statue made me bi (bi)
The statue made me bi (bi)
The monument of marble sent a beam into my eye
The statue made me fry (fry)
The statue made me fry (fry)
Thought I liked only ladies but it turns out I like guys
And what they found was just a bisexual standing where the statue made me bi
And what they'll find is just a bisexual standing where the statue made you bi
(If someone's confused, this is a parody of another, also very weird song)
*Couldn't think of a good pun name. Just pretend it's funny.
Hi deltarune boy
Brecht Stoker?
Bram Strotsky?
I think you did pretty good.
LOL two likes and no comments on this. Are there that few hbombguys that are also basement bois? If you commented on digi's or BGEs videos you would be swimming in the likes. Hell he brought up Nyx also and I can watch em talk to that skeleton for hours too. I must be in a exclusive club.
Scam Broker? Going a bit in the opposite direction there
YEET! You watch Hbomb?
Mother's Basement my dude
Mother's Basement I love your video!
In the time since this video came out, I have:
-Played night in the woods in preparation for the upcoming video
-Had it make a profound impact on me
-Realised I was trans
-Stole the name of the protagonist in honour of that impact and also because it's just a nice name
-Lived for over 2 years as a woman named Mae
I do wonder if that video might ever come out someday
Fuck man this got me in the feels. I’m straight myself but I grew up not liking football or beer and sports etc. And as such my dad treated me like I was gay, he bat me and threw me through a fence once over it. It didn’t help that all the beatings crippled my self esteem so I couldn’t get a girl to prove him wrong or just make the hate stop. It’s cool now, I’m 27, have a loving girlfriend I plan to marry and I’ve not seen my dad in nearly a decade.
Your dad sounds like a prick. Also, I was the same, I understand how you feel. Though my father was fortunately not a prick.
"Why be alien to eachother when we are all aliens to ourselves?"
Holy. Shit.
Thanks for that.
That question rang my head like a bell! I am still trying to process it.
If that's true I'm going full Ellen Ripley with the flamethrower
Arunima Tiwari
Wait, he actually said that? Did he actually say that base level, armchair, up-your-own-ass level of “philosophy”, about how humans need to come together... In a video about Lovecraft?
Jesus Christ, this guy is more pathetic than Sargon of Applebee’s.
@@Laxhoop Why do you start by asking one question, and then instantly try turning it into a different question about points which weren't made here? Try watching the video, instead of grasping for context in the dark.
@@Laxhoop
>Doesn't watch video
>"FUck ThIS vIdEO!! WhAT a HaCK LoLol"
Get the fuck out of here dumbass. Go watch a 3 minute video about Kant or some shit cause we all know you don't have the attention span to watch a 30 minute video.
I just realised I've been pronouncing "H.B. Omberguy" the wrong way all this time.
602 likes, still underrated comment right here
i will now say it this way thank you
"how is the gay life"
fantastic thanks for askin
This video was my introduction to Hbomber and is such a great microcosm of his work.
Still waiting for that Night in the Woods video
*STILL* waiting for that night in the woods video
@@neoh-n saw him mention it in passing in a 4 year old video, then searched RUclips for it thinking " surely he did it in the next four years "
thanks Dan for somehow latching me into this channel. the foldable human
Still waiting...
still waiting.
Still waiting
Vampire stories, especially Dracula, also reflected the gender norms of Victorian England. The ideal Victorian man was high-minded, honorable, genteel, and composed -- he had his carnal instincts under control, even in matters of love. Dracula feigns that gentlemanly exterior but hides a monster underneath that is driven only by carnal lust/hunger. There are real sexual overtones to the magic Dracula uses to seduce victims, and most of those victims are "honorable" (virgin), beautiful, young adult women. The class overtones are there too, of course, and your broader point that monsters are externalized avatars of social fears makes total sense -- in this case, the fear of the dapper gentleman who's secretly a cad.
Don't forget the national elitist undertones - Dracula isn't British or Irish after all, his opponents are (well, Van Helsing is Dutch but that's almost the same, right?). He's the evil uncontrollable foreign invader who's after "our women".
I should point out that Bram Stoker, the author of the original book, was Irish.
@Sir Dankistan it's ok to disagree with another person's interpretation of media- and if you do that's fine! but it's still a valid reading imo. The long scenes of travel for instance, and dracula's being literally shipped into the country all lend themselves as evidence for this interpretation
@@Ninchennase Wasn`t Dracula a Transylvanian count? How is he an invader? The story has nothing tot do with England.
@@VictorDobre4893 Yes, Dracula was a Transylvanian count who wreaked havoc in England, so it's quite astounding you think he's got nothing to do with England.
This is so wonderfully honest. I also liked the deliberate wording of "I decided that I hated it."
No matter how many times I rewatch this, the Night in the Woods video never seems to appear.
Just read The Colour out of Space and thought of this video. "The bloodroots grew insolent in their chromatic perversion" is definitely a keeper.
That’s how I sound when I just like the phonetic rhythm of words and have no interest in the structure of the sentence or wtf it says
He’s allowed but
“Fuckin immature of these bloodroots to change color all willy nilly” sir-
When talking about how racist Lovecraft was, I was surprised that you never touched on how The Shadow over Innsmouth is a story about the dangers of race mixing.
I was waiting for it the whole time too. And the real horror at the end is that the narrator has a corrupted bloodline!
He wrote it about dangerous cults in New England, according to his letters.
@@lippabalda2892 lol, it was about the realization that he was part welsh
According the the literary framework established by Roland Barthes in his essay "death of the author" which posits that the interpretation of any text lies solely on the reader and authorial intent bares no importance on any sort subtext that may or may not be found in a work.
Therefore the shadow over innsmouth is in fact a depiction of furries, and that the theme of this writing establishes truest path of nature lies in the postmodern melding of animals and humans in a cartoon erotic context.
In this TED talk I will walk you through Lovecraft's work line by line to establish my line of reasoning while simultaneously pulling from relevant cultural contexts both from the time of writing as well as current themes...
@@purple-flowers I would argue that saying it is inaccurate to claim that you can't have a reading of the text that considers the author's intent. Death of the author should allow for additional interpretations outside of what the author intended it.
Del Toro has so many beautiful projects that just get shelved, damn.
I would love to see what Lovecraft would think of the shape of water, it’s literally the exact opposite of shadow over Insmouth
romantic sex between a mute woman and a fish man that eventually maybe turns her into a fish woman
@@juanpablomontalvo4715
Heavens.
The Shape of Water basically IS gender swapped Shadow over Innsmouth.
Alan Pennie
Only the fish fucking is seen as a good thing and the bad people are the humans
@@juanpablomontalvo4715
I can see Lovecraft first vomiting, and then accepting that these things are true.
A bit like his character in Shadow.
This hits different after J.K. Rowling outed herself as a TERF. I've always been drawn to Lovecraft and many sci-fi and fantasy and horror stories and you've helped me to think about the connection I have with the works in a deeper way. Thanks for that, great video
Harry Potter Lovecraft
I don't have a setup for that joke, so there it is
See, here's the thing: Lovecraft _changed his mind._
I've yet to see the bitter scot dry hag do that.
unlike him she's unfortunately still alive
You hate JK because she has one different opinion from you. Wow that a small minded thing to do.
@@galaxychill9578Something tells me you don’t like many people.
I find it kinda fascinating how I, a bisexual woman, manage to find creators that I just kinda vibe with and than BOOM they come out as bisexual. Wow. You go, king ✨
H. P. Bombercraft: cult videomaker of awesomeness
EmperorTigerstar First Shaun now here? I'm liking you more and more dude
EmperorTigerstar hey cool that you like both Shaun and Hbomberguy. Have you checked out Three Arrows?
Three Arrows is so good, it is not even fair.
Sir Jaojao yup! I love 3 arrows!
EmperorTigerstar that's great! I really like him too
The "it was a different time" excuse does not work for Lovecraft at all, as even at the time his colleagues and his wife believed that he was a pretty huge racist, even for back then
Pretty sure he was a product of his environment and time.
@@12halo3 If his words are enough to discomfort other racists in his timeframe, he is beyond just a product of his environment.
@@devonmolina5200 it's not like he was going through shit and hated himself just as much as he hated other groups.
A metropole is a parent state of a colony. I'm guessing you mean metropolis, or are you literally saying you moved to an imperial colony of some kind despite it being 2019?
"It was a different time." excuse loses a lot of power when you consider that John Brown was born in 1800.
as a transgender person living on central texas the shadow over innsmouth really touches something in me, and the knowledge that lovecraft would have despised me makes it that kuch sweeter
Trans teen in Oregon here. You’re not alone!
I hope you moved out. Things are not going so well in Texas :(
21:52 According to his Jewish wife, they broke up partially because his antisemite affirmations were so many that at a certain point she just couldn't take it any more.
Thanks again for the shout out.
Nyx Fears nyx i love you!!!
When you find out your American movie dad knows your British movie dad...
Nyx Fears ... aaaand subbed.
Joel Farrelly shes not a dad. She a mom.
You deserve more recognition nyx.
This video is too good to be real
Your music definitely helps.
He's amazing simply....
Your videos are good too, boo
Im proud of you for finally getting to read a comment
your videos are too good to be real as well
I know you've hinted at it but explicitly stating it has never been easy for anyone. I'm bi too and only recently came to terms with this in the last few years. Telling my family has been mixed results so far but I don't regret doing it. You're not alone at all and its amazing that you've made me remember I'm not alone either. Keep up the amazing work!
I'm bi too, almost no one knows, except my gf and my sister. Didn't want to accept it for a long time but my (also bi) gf was very much helping me with accepting myself. I'm very proud of you and thanks for sharing :)
@@pluvio154 bi+bi relationships are the best lol. other bi's just get it.
Bi man here as well✌
We all can and should celebrate our bravery to allow ourselves....To be. And, most importantly, be visible.
Thank You for sharing, bro. It has been(and still is) a very multi-shade journey for me as well.
Take care, much Love.💙
We deal with this kind of thing in music history all the time. Particularly Wagner's Ring Cycle. For those of you who don't know, Richard Wagner blamed his initial lack of success in opera on all the Jewish theater owners. He even wrote an essay about this called "Jewishness in Music." To say nothing of the fact that the music from the Ring Cycle was a personal favorite of Hitler's. My teacher called him the world's first Nazi.
I'm bisexual. I've accepted it within myself. It took a long time. I've just turned 30. The story is too long to fully explore in a youtube comment but hearing you say those things out loud means a lot to me. I know the strength that took. I am not "out" because I live in the southern US and I don't really like most people here and don't feel that they deserve to know such a deep and vulnerable part of me.
My wife knows. We have even shared men together. I feel so lucky that I get to explore and accept that part of myself with my wife. With privacy and intimacy.
I know not everyone is afforded that luxury. Hearing you talk about your sexuality openly to all of us has inspired me to own my own sexuality more directly.
I don't have much of a point with this comment other than to thank you for being yourself. I respect you and your work so it's empowering to know that you can be so honest about who you are - so I know that I can too.
💙💙💙 About to cry reading your comment. To you and your wife the warmest December holiday wishes....!💓
@@l.s.8201 i think you got that backwards lol
OP you are my bicon.
Welcome to the bi club :D
One year later, your comment is touching people still. I too am in the south and it can be really hard, but support networks make it all so much easier. May you have many happy years in your future my friend.
and approaching a year we still wait for night in the woods :(
I just started watching hbomberguy out of order and this hook really got me like "omg he did a night in the woods video? How did I miss it" and then I saw it wasn't there :(
I was searching for this comment! I'm glad other people are still waiting for it too, maybe if we keep reminding him gently he will gift it to us avsbd
@@malachorfives He's said on his patreon that it is still coming and he is working on it, but it's taking him more time than he originally thought. There's also been some recent news thats come out about one of the people involved in the development, and it just isn't the right time. (From what I can remember of the patreon post)
@@21lizra thanks a lot for the update, I was actually curious if he still wanted to release the video in light of all the controversy and tragedy on the maker of the game.
s-still... waiting...
WHERES THE NIGHT IN THE WOODS VIDEO, SPLEMBY? WE'RE STILL WAITING
Lol. I'm beginning to think it was scrapped or something.
"How's gay life? Is it satisfying"
me, living in an overtly homophobic country and in the south on top of that: well,
I KNOW THE DIRECTOR OF CTHULHU DAN GILDARK! He's a great guy and I love working on stuff with him in Seattle. I'm so happy to see someone give him a decent analysis of his film. Thank you HBomberguy, I'll be sure to pass this along to Dan. This is probably the nicest thing I've seen anyone say about this movie!
griffin09 oh wow what a coincidence
Thank you Griffin! Dan Gildark here the director of CTHULHU. H.bomberguy, I can not tell you how touched I am that this film resonated with you in such a deep way (eventually -ha!) I made it for all of us outsiders. Your video is a beautiful testament how the art we create can help us feel less alone. Sending so much love and gratitude your way.
Higher res version with extra footage:
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With commentary so filmmakers don't make the same mistakes we did;)
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BEST. COMMENT. ON. RUclips. I'm literally transcendingngng oh my god can this be Pinned Comment or WHAT!?
Whenever someone decides to make a Lovecraftian story, they can approach it in two ways. Explore the external, cosmic horror of incomprehensible beings looming over mankind, or the internal, psychological horror of paranoia, isolation and questioning one's sanity and identity. They're both very strong themes in his work, which is why The Thing, Shape of Water and Cthulhu can all be considered Lovecraftian despite being wildly different stories.
I'm starting to think the movies The Stepford Wives and Get Out are Lovecraftian retellings of The Shadow over Innsmouth.
Great. Now everything is racist, sexist, and Lovecraftian. And I must point it all out :D
It is sad that this video couldn't have explored these themes more, instead we get a diatribe colored by the lens of the LGBTQ, SJW , and Marxist communities intent on discrediting what is one of the quintessential bodies of work in the horror genre. The only horror here is the baggage that the presenter brought with him to the review.
3vil3vils
I mean, do you know where you are? What did you expect?
Everything this guy makes could have been described by what you just commented.
But what's great is you can watch someone else, probably someone as bored of current topics as you are, and nod your head in time with the echoes.
HBomb literly said near he end that he admired lovecraft's work and rejects who he was as a person. So I don't think he's criticizing his work as much as you're implying. Also, I thought he did a wonderful job explaining why his sexuality was pertinent in understanding lovecraft's literature. It's weird that you make the criticism that he doesn't focus on the core themes of lovecraft's work enough because he merely used his experiences with his sexuality to better understand the previously mentioned themes. I'm not going to sit here and justify why this video was gay - because he does a very good job alreadt. However, I am going to wonder why you think he's trying to discredit lovecraft's work and why you think his sexuality should've been irrelevant or more unimportant.
Not really sure why you describe him discussing his sexuality as a lens. His experiences with sexuality identity have made him feel isolated and confused in the past and, although he technically didn't need to bring up his experiences to express his opinion, I, as a gay male, found them relateable and an easy way to make what might be hard to understand understandable. So to describe the effect his sexuality has had on his life as and by relation how hIs perception changed as a lens is.... Strange? Are you wrong? No. But how did him sharing an experience that he directly related to some of lovecraft's stories detract from the focus on the themes?
Well the latter comes as a symptom of the former, generally yeah?
"Have they perhaps, seen the face of an uncaring universe?" Excellent line, so good
Fits with your pfp too
Just looked up Lovecraft's cat name and last time I saw racism that bad Steven Crowder was talking about meth in the soil
... I wish the thing I was focusing on was something other than how weird of a name that is regardless of the racism.
Let me give you my interpretation of HP Lovecraft. Let me give a little context: 1. I'm black. 2. I am a straight male. 3. I am in the middle class if not closer to the upper middle class. 4. I, at one time, described myself as a "gamer" in my early 20s (I am 25 now).
I loved HP Lovecraft at first. I mean I played WoW (world of warcraft) and to find out C'thun=C'thulu was cool. Then there was South Park showing its love for Lovecraft and its hate for Beiber and I was like "Where do I sign up." It took me years to actually read a short story. And it was like staring into the madness of White Supremacy and the fear of the racial and cultural other itself. Honestly, I couldn't do anything but chuckle. Was not heart broken. Was not even mad. Just laughed. I guess on some level I was like "Of course! A person who had such an affect on my life would absolutely hate me if he met me, oh the irony." Or I was just used to the concept of people hating me (raised in rural white America in Ohio and I wasn't exactly a nice person so...) that it just never really bothered me.
The thing is... I think Lovecraft's fear came from him understanding that this universe is uncaring and cruel, including to people like him. People he had spent his whole life being told were of "superior stock". It must have been devastating for him for both of his parents to be dead and for him to have such physical and psychological issues. To the point where he felt like he needed to justify every little thing in response to his world view. Why believe the idea that you aren't the center of the universe when you could believe the idea you are the victim to an unfeeling cosmos and all the racial minorities, poor people, and LGBT people are servants of malignant or uncaring godly creatures that have no basis in reality but for some reason do? I think on some level though, like you were saying, he knew otherwise.
I kind of wish the guy could've lived through WW2. I wonder what his stories would have been like after seeing the real horrors the ideals of "superior stock" has brought upon millions. Or would he have just stayed the same but been a socialist kind of? Who knows... and we never will. In the end his fear was both of the unknown (his whole world view being shattered piece by piece and not knowing what to do about it) and what he already did know (he was a foreigner in his own skin aka he could not live up to the expectations of his own views).
Excellent comment. I've been re-reading my H.P. Lovecraft anthology and came to a similar opinion as you. He was told he was of superior stock (rich white male of the late 1800s), but he was so sickly and frail and his dead parents, etc. He had to rationalize this by demoting the other race to animalistic savages. It was the only way to justify his "superiority". Fortunately, being dead for a quite a while allows one to separate the good from the bad. He is no longer racist - he is dead.
Well put dude. Gave me food for thought
Well said. I really enjoyed reading that.
The Nothing Man.
I think your last sentence sums up this tormented writer extremely well.
If he'd lived to see the age of the Bomb we would have gotten some good shit.
It looks like that joke about male Greek statues awakening something in hbomb in the virtue signaling video was a lot more accurate than expected
Pen Palz Yep. This was the first video of his I've watched. When I went to see other recent content and came across that bit, I had the same thought.
Honestly, more the bicons in my life I get, the better it is.
@Alabaster Laserblaster Holy smokes. That sounds lovely! Imma go check it out.
@Maple A. thaaaaaanks.
What's funny is that when I saw that video, I did a mental double check--was he joking. And my conclusion from his tone, etc, was no he wasn't.
I only just noticed the significance of how, at the end of the video, you use music from Night in the Woods; a game which absolutely has a lovecraftian horror in it and also plays on themes of feeling like an outsider.
Haven’t finished the video yet but I’m gonna have to listen for that now, love the music from that game
Funny how Cthulhu is what most people think is the most iconic Lovecraft story but in reality Shadow Over Innsmouth is by far the more prevalent story in modern culture from him.
The reason for that is because Howard badgered him into writing an adventure story, where the narrative follows a dude in deep shit.
Whereas Lovecraft taught Howard the spectacle of the distant, uncaring god.
in honour of pride month i am back again to watch this and also because my lecturer tried to call lovecraft "a man of principle"
a fine principle here: "not all principles are created equal." You could adhere to a strict personal code of lunatic bullshit and still be a "principled" person. It's a meaningless accolade.
His principle was racism but he never wavered from it, so I guess you could say that?
He was a man of principle. His principles were things like "interbreeding with poorly bred people is utterly, horrifyingly disgusting" and "anyone who isn't rich, white, from my hometown, with a long ancestry there, is disgusting" and "you can tell someone is a member of a death cult because they're non-white". Those are principles. Stupid principles that you'd do well not to live by, of course, but priniciples nonetheless that Lovecraft stuck to his whole life.
The principle is bigotry
I wonder if you punched him because you had a strong principle of being anti-racist if he'd still consider being "a man of principle" admirable.
"Art is lies in service of truth." I like that.
24:30 A friend of mine in uni was doing extensive research on Lovecraft's personal life and works. Her research was done in Deland, FL, the same place where Lovecraft visited Barlow in summer 1934. There was a not insignificant amount of evidence pointing to a romantic relationship between the two. As far as I know, she never released her research in any official or peer-reviewed form, but the stories she told about it were fascinating.
I rewatch this video whenever I feel dysphoric again, it holds such a special place in my heart
Saying "Lovecraft was a product of his time" desperately undersells what was going on there. Lovecraft was behind his times even then; he liked to post-date his letters and pretend he was sending them in 1693 instead of 1933. He was a wannabe Puritan in the modern age. It informs his writing but it also shows how outdated his attitudes were when he wrote.
in his youth, he modernized by the end of his life. Its almost like being a maladjusted socially isolated loser doesnt do you well.
Ironically he was an atheist as well
That is something else.
IMO Lovecraft idolized the culture of the Puritans (against hedonism, against vanity, very high literacy, and a strict theocratic hierarchy) rather than their religion per se. For someone who was afraid of sex, despised romance and vanity, and who viewed humanity overall as a little village with a little wood palisade erected against a vast, indifferent and hostile New World, I do believe Lovecraft did strongly identify with Puritans.
Yeah...The Street, Red Hook, and He says how he really felt about society and other people outside his ethnicity. And although his views did changed at the end of his life, he was still racist.
Is this your official coming out video?? an HP Lovecraft themed coming out video??? Marry me????????
Robert Shippey I feel the same way about this hahaha
he’s so valid
RIGHT??????
You'll have to wrestle me for him. Mud or no mud; your choice.
@hbomberguy you have men fighting over you now. How does it feel?
in case anyone's trying to catch the caption at 24:18, it's "Samuel Loveman [nominative determinism joke here]"
Butler Hospital, where both of Lovecraft's parents died, is still a working psychiatric hospital in Providence. I am a psychiatrist there, and I always like to mention this interesting history to applicants and students. It is sad how many people don't know about whom I'm talking.
No way was there a gay poet named Loveman who loved men
Natalia Chaykowski If there wasn't I will change my name now and learn poetry.
I didn't catch that.
A case of nominative determinism perhaps?
Sometimes God comes up with ridiculously on - the - nose names that no writer of fiction would dare invent.
"You already know that the idea of a powerful monster out there somewhere beneath the sea can actually be the least of a person's problem".
Not only can it be the least of a person's problem, but to me it's almost been a source of comfort. An uncaring universe is a universe that doesn't judge, monsters from beyond don't care about your skin colour, your gender, or your sexual orientation.
And to me it's almost reassuring that something, anything, can make the people who make me feel powerless and anxious everyday as miserable and terrified as they make me. And that while they can hurt us, queer people of colour, allegedly because of the fear we cause them, there is nothing they can do against beings of such tremendous powers.
(Also, thank you so much for this video, it was great and I cried watching it.)
That is the queerest, most nihilistic, and frankly amazing thing I've ever read. Fucking cheers, Noctella. May we all spiral into madness together. 🍸
Might be nothing, but I loved to see you as another queer person of color here. Even when the world silences us for who we are, we at least have the comfort that we aren't alone, and can even reach out.
This comment... Absolutely magnificent thank YOU. I’ve been so fully understood by a stranger on RUclips it feels weird lol. Wish you the best wherever you are and keep being you. We stand together.
I'm still kind of reeling from the insightfulness of your observation. Thank you for saying this.
Existential comfort I think we call it?
I had no idea H.bomb wasn’t straight. I didn’t even consider it and now I feel like I need to rethink the way I assume things. I needed this. Thank you. I love you and everything you make even if I’m late to the party
I mean he did say he can't look at Greek statues because he makes them feel some type of way in one video
@@galaxychill9578 dude which video was that?
@@tortis6342 i believe it was in his virtue signaling video
I have this same sort of relationship with the Ender's Game books. They're hugely influential, massively useful (especially for anyone who had the "gifted child" label slapped on them at some point), and also written by a huge homophobic piece of shit. I refuse to buy new copies of the books, I've pirated the audiobooks and kindle versions, because I refuse to support Card in any way, but holy shit do I think everyone needs to read those books.
And like lovecraft, being deep in the closet probably contributed to his homophobia
I think this is your best video yet. Very personal. Quite beautiful actually. Thanks for sharing.
mY THOUGHTS EXACTLY!!!!
And I know now that a lot of people...will leave the channel because this world rewards that kind of offhanded rejection you know?
`Can't believe this gaming-commentator & rational leftist is one of tHOSE PEOPLE.`
Meanwhile I feel pleasantly surprised--and seen, and related to, and represented... LMAO
This video reminds of one Lindsay Ellis did a couple of months ago that touched on why marginalized people often resinate with horror stories: “My Monster Boyfriend”
That would be an excellent crossover.
@@fukyomammason Wouldn't it be funny if that crossover were as simple and subtle as her reading a quote in his video?
Blind Beholder Too bad that’ll never happen...
ugh i read frankenstein's monster in sr yr of h.s. and it was so distressing to read & also hear my classmates just blindly hate the monster that i literally did not finish the book (i know how it ends) and almost failed the class bc i couldnt bring myself to write the final essay. i feel this so hard
@@GrayYeonWannabe
It's a desperately sad story.
Frankenstein is such a douche and The Monster is driven to murderous rage by repeated rejection.
Really looking forward to that night in the woods video
I honestly believe Lovecraft was a true ‘Xenophobe’. As in he didn’t dislike any specific group, sexuality or whatever, he just disliked anything that seemed strange to him and everything around him that caused him suffering. Which is not necessarily better but interesting I guess
Case in point: he has a story about air con units
Late reply but: he's probably one of the only people whose Xenophobia was genuinely a phobia. The idea of being exposed to foreign people, concepts and objects both in the sense of "things from other countries" and "things unfamiliar" terrified him.
"Bram stoker, more like... Bram S-TROTSKY"
You can forward any and all royalties to my paypal
Sorry, all those royalties were shot trying to escape.
"I liked thinking I was smart." - Recovering Objectivists, 1957-????
Amen
I can attest I thought I knew all I needed in High School. I also thought any music that wasn't thrash metal was crap.
Thank god I grew up.
Drippage I thought that dubstep was the only good music, because normal music was only about things like sex money and drugs.
Princess Bubblegum did nothing wrong there is literally no response to that other than "that was a great response."
YOU CANT JUST BAIT ME WITH THAT NIGHT IN THE WOODS AT THE END AND THEN NOT MAKE A NIGHT IN THE WOODS VIDEO
Soooooooooooo when is that Night in the Woods video coming, Harris?
If the deep ones in the shadow over innsmouth had crazy good butts like the fishman in the Del Toro film, then I don't blame the villagers for interbreeding with them.
Life, er, finds a way
Not only crazy good butts, but the promise of eternal life & the ability to breathe underwater to boot! It's a win-win!
also those luscious fish lips, after seeing shape of water i've decided that bipedal fish men are the only men i want in my life.
My favorite soyboy
he a soyman.
RyanIn2D pls... he is a soy cthulhu
you may be meat milk drinker
but me, I’M SOYMAN*drink a gallom of soy milk*
Soy boys are weak af
Yog-Soy-thoth
*looks up Lovecraft's cat.
oh no...
Lovecraft's racism and other fears are precisely why his style of horror resonates so strongly with people. He managed to translate his genuine (if unfounded) fears of the other into a form of storytelling that is easy for readers to identify with. You likely don't have the same fears that Lovecraft had when he wrote his works, but you do have fears just as genuine and terrifying as he did, so you can easily relate to the works at hand.
i think this comment comes closest to describing how I feel about H.P.
Idk how all of you think all of his work is based on his racism. Like in his world humanity itself was created accidently and is totally meaningless.
I'm really gonna be that bitch right now and make my thoughtful, introspective, thankful comment later: bicon
oh big mood
#IAmADirtyComputer WeisessXboymeetsevil I can confirm that I did
This is truly the gift that will keep on giving.
Harris Bomberbi
#IAmADirtyComputer WeisessXboymeetsevil didn't hbomb already mention it on curiouscat a few weeks ago?
someone pointed out hp lovecraft always looks like he's hiding a bird in his mouth and now I can't unsee it
Starts video talking about a cautionary story about species interbreeding.
Me: "sounds like racism"
Finds out Lovecraft was racist.
Me: *realise I held Hbomberguy's hand all the way down the path.
“I can’t even say his cat’s name”
“Really? Huh, I wonder how bad it could bHOLY SHIT”
I am a queer Lovecraft fan. I didn't figure out who I was until my mid-30s but I always had the feeling that I did not belong, that there was a deep "wrongness" about me. Lovecraft called to this longing, this emptiness. You mentioned the Outsider. How many of us have looked in the mirror and been disgusted by what we see, by realizing what we really are? How many of us have wanted to crawl back into the abandoned castle of ignorance, buried under the earth? Lovecraft knew our pain and our isolation. Lovecraft knew our fears and our hopes. He was not a good man, by any means, but his stories filled a need that I didn't know I had or understand and I am forever thankful for that. To learn what you are, to be horrified, to begin to understand, and to finally accept it: that is his legacy.
I can relate so much to coming to terms with bisexuality. I found myself drawn to stories about transformation because my own prejudices made my bisexuality seem monstrous. It was different to see those qualities in myself where I didn't expect them. I luckily have come to terms with it, but now stories of horror remind me that as long as you love yourself and your loved ones do too, there is nothing wrong with who you are. In fact, who you are is something to be proud of.
Because of this video, I decided to come out to my brother. He took it about as well as I can expect (considering our homophobic background). Despite any problems, I appreciate having another person whom I love know the truth and still love me. I hope anyone else coming out can find that reassurance and love and avoid ignorance and otherness.
I hope you are doing well, Ellie. Bi high five!
I hope you are doing well, Ellie
I'm going through something similar myself, I'm 23 and coming to terms with my own bisexuality. I think it's easier at times for bisexual people to assume they're straight because they feel attraction to the opposite gender which leads you to assume you are straight, so attraction to your own gender tends to get subconsciously written off or ignored until it's undeniable, which usually happens later in life. Also since relationships between women are seen as lesser than relationships with/between men, for bi women it can be extra difficult to recognise their feelings as romantic attraction and not just a "really really intense friendship". I think this leads a lot of bi people to develop a sense of imposter-syndrome and feel like they're "less legitimate" than their LG&T counterparts, who tend to know much younger that they're "different" since there's no reason to think that they could be straight/cis. Idk I'm probably just rambling but these are the feelings I'm dealing with right now. I'm getting used to ascribing the label to myself and while it still feels like breaking in a new pair of shoes, I'm hoping someday I can be in your position and be comfortable and proud of who I am
This is still my favourite hbomberguy video, I appreciate his willingness to open up about his own sexuality in talking about how this man he idolized growing up didn't have a mindset that he agreed with, and how that affected harris' thoughts of Lovecrafts work. I find the idea to be interesting, having a group of people whose belief's didn't line up with an author's at all still be drawn to and praise his work not just despite the fact but also somewhat because of it. I felt truly connected with this video and have now watched it 4 times through.
For me growing up, the muggleborns in the harry potter universe were such an obvious metafor for transpeople, not beeing seen as "real" wizards due to being born "wrong" .
It really helped me deal with feelings I hadn't yet fully accepted.
So even if I never read Lovecraft I can really sympathies with the video.
Just finished part one and boy oh boy, you made me cry, H.Bomberguy. Those feelings of "assumed straight" and the fear of being around an abusive person, boy did those strike home. Thank you for your eloquence, even having thought of all these things myself, I don't think I've ever heard it put so concisely
As of part four I was wondering if Lindsay's "Monster Boyfriend" perspective would be touched on, and then I hear her voice! Wonderful
I've never heard of someone, ever, at all, in actual earnestness going and opening their face hole and saying "you're going to die of AIDS" and--............well, at least such shows about trans and LGBPQ folk like me as Pose are undoing the trauma and blatant lies. I read a tweet today that said that cis-heteros by and large enjoy it and must R E C O M M E N D to others and in any case the attempt will get to tell you which ones to cut out of your life--for physical and emotional safety I presume.
I've seen multiple people call the shape of water "disgusting porn filth".
So i guess we still have ways to go about being able to love stuff that is completely alien to us.
Zombies are a good example of something that we desire. Our love ones around forever. It is both a desire and a perversion of that desire. Perversion of a desire is the true existential horror. I think it more take from his works what you bring into the work.
WHERE IS THAT NIGHT IN THE WOODS VIDEO HARRIS?!? stop teasing me. I need to hear your thoughts on that gem