Changed the 4 plugs on the weekend and it seemed to fix the hesitation problem. It will be interesting to see if I get better fuel economy now. Will post later if I do.Thanks again.
You can never go wrong by changing your plugs. They are cheap and from the time you put them in they are slowly wearing down. Some recommend 40,000 Mi, some save 80000 MI. Best thing to do is pull them and see what they look like
One thing you should have added/performed was to add anti seize compound to the spark plug threads as well as di electrical grease to the contact point on the spark plugs for the coil packs. Adds a sense of security for easy replacement and a good electrical contact. It's cheap and should be done.
Did it help the performance? Mine hesitates at lower speeds and i waa think about doing the same thing. I just had to replace the throttle body as well.
DeanGail Wahl sure did! I was actually disappointed with the jeep dealership we bought it from that they didn't change the plugs and do a basic tune up when they took the patriot in as a trade. It had 70xxx miles when we got it.
Do I need to disconnect the battery? I've been having issues with the check engine light for almost a year now and I'm so excited to get these swapped out tomorrow lol. Fingers crossed 🤞
Slightly unrelated question, but what is the big plug just behind the engine in the middle of a silver metal plate (1:45)? I'd opened the hood of my own vehicle and saw it was smoking, likely needs to be replaced.
That big silver plate is just a heat shield or top of your exhaust manifold. That plug in the middle is your first O2 sensor or oxygen sensor. It is super hot to the touch so if any snow melts and drips on it or if anything touches it, it will probably smoke or melt. If you don't have a check engine light on, I wouldn't even worry about touching your oxygen sensors since they can be finicky
you forgot to add that you have to gap the plugs before installing them. plugs are not made for one vehicle. not all vehicles that use that plug have the same gap specifications.
when we first had the miss, it was random. had it told me a specific cylinder was missing, I would have swapped the missing cylinder coil pack with any of the others. if it still misses on that cylinder, it's not the coil. if the scanner says a different cylinder is missing now, I woulda replaced the coil. been a few months and still no miss.
@@festerfm not true sir: On your video you said ( 5:38 ) "Wow the gap on the new plug seems to be about 1/2 the old plug." Then you just installed it and did not show you readjusting it at all.
@@peterbalazsy8263 as the spark plug wears, the gap gets bigger. So worn out plugs will have a huge gap. The original reason I changed them was because there was a noticeable hesitation on acceleration. The gap on the old plugs was so worn that it was 2x as big as the new plugs that were already properly gapped. It was the cause of the hesitation.
@@festerfm I'm sorry but that is incorrect sir. The proper spec gap is 0.043. REF: www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/jeep,2008,patriot,2.4l+l4,1441548,ignition,spark+plug,7212 So the old plugs were probably still close to that because they could NEVER be worn to be TWICE the normal gap of 0.043 because that means 0.86. ... but if you saw the NEW plugs at 1/2 of the old plug you should have used a gauge... . But you did not re-adjust the new plug to be certain it was the proper 0.043... you just put it in w/o measuring or adjusting the gap. So if you are using the NGK plug it is supposed to be gapped at 0.043.
Omar Gerardo Rodriguez I'm actually not sure what the spark plug change interval is. I changed mine because I had a slight hesitation on initial acceleration. I decided to check them out just for the heck of it and found that they were worn badly so I decided to change them. If I had to guess they were the original plugs at 86000 miles period I probably wouldn't let it go that long. Maybe 40 to 50 thousand miles
Why would they use a stupid oddball torx driver for some regular ass shit, thats what pisses me off. Everyone has a few screwdrivers but of course this simple task needs one that most people dont have haha anyway you can get away with a small flathead or anytjing else?
EclipseGuy97 no.. in all the years I've been working on stuff I've never changed coil packs unless they were not working. Now if you have a consistent misfire that does not go away after changing the spark plugs, try moving around your coil packs to different cylinders and see if you have a different cylinder misfiring or if it Remains the Same. Some people will tell you to change all the coil packs at the same time but again I only change a coil pack out if it's not working properly. Hope this helps! Any other questions let me know
+Charles Ragsdale it's actually recommended to add a small amount of antisieze to the threads of the plugs.. I realized I didn't after the vid was uploaded.
Charles Ragsdale any antiseize will work.. it's a silverish colored paste with a brush in the bottle. Dab a little paste on 1 part of the threads then screw in the plug. When screwing it in, the paste will spread itself over all the threads. I've personally never used it on plugs b4 but when you are working with aluminum cylinder heads, you don't want to risk the spark plug getting stuck and damaging the threads on the plug.
Be more specific. They unscrewed all the way? If you are using a normal socket, u will need a magnet or needle nose pliers to pull the plug out of the hole. 1/4" rubber hose may pull it up also if you slide it over the plug
yksmaple manual calls for 17-20 ft/lbs. I usually go finger tight, then a half turn to crush the spark plug gasket. haven't used a torque wrench for plugs in years
20ft lbs is the correct torque spec, just to be safe and be comfortable with the work I would recommend using a torque wrench..not a necessary thing when it comes to plugs tho. Just make sure you dont leave them loose or overtighten by accident.
Armando Villarreal Actually NGK Lasers Plats are "double" platinum and Chrysler did use them on the 2.4 world engine applications my guess is because it was designed by Hyundai.
padrote lopez someone earlier asked about the torque spec and I looked it up for them. I've been working on stuff long enough to do these by feel. Sometimes I forget that not everyone can do that. Thanks for watching tho!
Great video on how to change spark plugs. But don't listen to this guy. If you're getting a misfire code find the root cause. Do diagnostic testing. If you don't know how to do testing then take it to a mechanic or learn how to do it yourself. It does "hurt" If you think changing the spark plug gonna solve your problem. It might solve it but if it doesn't then there goes your engine. How much is that gonna cost you?
Just changed mine, really easy job. Runs like new. Had 122,000 on the old plugs. No more hesitation. Thanks for the video.
Changed the 4 plugs on the weekend and it seemed to fix the hesitation problem. It will be interesting to see if I get better fuel economy now. Will post later if I do.Thanks again.
Short and to the point! I followed your instructions and changed the plugs to my 2016 Patriot. Thanks!
It’s only 2 years old.! Spark plugs should last at least 5 specially if it’s platinum
I got a 16 jeep Patriot at my dealership yesterday and it jumping when I hit the gas when I'm going 50 and up do you thank it the plugs
Hey Man! You Sir are a legend!! I have the exact same car
Thankyou very much for the tutorial. So straightforward.
Spark plug location sure is deep.
Thanks for the awesome video! Jeep is in the shop, and they wanted to charge me $200 for these and the filter. Saved me lots of money!
Thanks. I had not changed spark plugs in probably 25 years. I was baffled! Thanks.
Great video and great diagnostic follow-up comments. This looks like a job I could get EXCITED about!! Thank you.
Great video. Just bought a used patriot a couple weeks ago. This video will come in handy.
This video is awesome thanks for the step by step, my jeep is a 2014 and its white just like yours!
Thank you for this video, it is detailed good for beginners, and those who might need refreshers!
I’m have some issues with mine and from what I’ve read it’s the spark plugs so this video is perfect
You can never go wrong by changing your plugs. They are cheap and from the time you put them in they are slowly wearing down. Some recommend 40,000 Mi, some save 80000 MI. Best thing to do is pull them and see what they look like
One thing you should have added/performed was to add anti seize compound to the spark plug threads as well as di electrical grease to the contact point on the spark plugs for the coil packs. Adds a sense of security for easy replacement and a good electrical contact. It's cheap and should be done.
Brent Ziegler NGK plugs feature a trivalent plating which do not need anti-seize.
TheTruth4313 oh, alright. I obviously did not know that. 👍🏾
Brent Ziegler still should do it
What about e3 spark plugs should I add greasy or whatever or just throw em in dry?????
Raul Ibanez no you shouldn't, that will lead to over torquing
Just changed mine. Great video.
I always check the gap just to make sure and add a little antiseize to the threads of the plugs.
but good video otherwise.
Did it help the performance? Mine hesitates at lower speeds and i waa think about doing the same thing. I just had to replace the throttle body as well.
Smoothed it right out! No more hesitation
Great video! I will definitely be using this when I change my spark plugs. :)
Dude that was so easy...thanks for the great video!
thanks for the video, my mechanic want it to charge me $200 for that. but if is that easy I do it in one afternoon.
So did it help fix the problem. Thanks
DeanGail Wahl sure did! I was actually disappointed with the jeep dealership we bought it from that they didn't change the plugs and do a basic tune up when they took the patriot in as a trade. It had 70xxx miles when we got it.
Thanks!! Super helpful. I fix my Patriot today.
Do I need to disconnect the battery? I've been having issues with the check engine light for almost a year now and I'm so excited to get these swapped out tomorrow lol. Fingers crossed 🤞
Excellent video. Looks very easy
It is very easy. I understand to people who aren't sure what they were doing, it can look rather intimidating but such is most things.
Thanks... big help. What year is your Patriot? Thanks again.
Mine was a 2011. I sold it a year ago due to rear differential issues that the dealer boned me on
Hey bud awesome video! But for a Jeep Pay 2015 i had to get the 5in extender!
Thanks - just what I needed!
thanks so much! you really helped me big time with this video!
Marry me!!! Out 193844830 videos I watched this is the only one that's 100% clear. Even for me lol
Slightly unrelated question, but what is the big plug just behind the engine in the middle of a silver metal plate (1:45)? I'd opened the hood of my own vehicle and saw it was smoking, likely needs to be replaced.
That big silver plate is just a heat shield or top of your exhaust manifold. That plug in the middle is your first O2 sensor or oxygen sensor. It is super hot to the touch so if any snow melts and drips on it or if anything touches it, it will probably smoke or melt. If you don't have a check engine light on, I wouldn't even worry about touching your oxygen sensors since they can be finicky
@@festerfm Thanks!
you forgot to add that you have to gap the plugs before installing them. plugs are not made for one vehicle. not all vehicles that use that plug have the same gap specifications.
James Rean they were all gapped just fine
James Rean NGK comes pre gapped
Even pre gapped you should always double check. Just because they're pre gapped doesn't mean they are exact.
There already gapped.
What he did miss it the anti seize an electric grease
And the torque spec on these is a slight turn and a "just like that" 😂😂😂
lmfao came here to say this. It's 20 ft lbs for the plug and 75 ft lbs for the coil pack screw in case anyone was wondering.
Thanks for the directions.
With mopar I replace coil pacs as well as the plugs. Not worth the double work when the misfire is still there after changing plugs.
when we first had the miss, it was random. had it told me a specific cylinder was missing, I would have swapped the missing cylinder coil pack with any of the others. if it still misses on that cylinder, it's not the coil. if the scanner says a different cylinder is missing now, I woulda replaced the coil. been a few months and still no miss.
When you looked at the new plug you said it was 1/2 the gap of thr old one. But you did not re-gap it to spec .043.
Why?
The gap on the new plugs was fine.. the old ones were very wore out
@@festerfm not true sir:
On your video you said ( 5:38 )
"Wow the gap on the new plug seems to be about 1/2 the old plug." Then you just installed it and did not show you readjusting it at all.
@@peterbalazsy8263 as the spark plug wears, the gap gets bigger. So worn out plugs will have a huge gap. The original reason I changed them was because there was a noticeable hesitation on acceleration. The gap on the old plugs was so worn that it was 2x as big as the new plugs that were already properly gapped. It was the cause of the hesitation.
@@festerfm I'm sorry but that is incorrect sir.
The proper spec gap is 0.043.
REF:
www.rockauto.com/en/catalog/jeep,2008,patriot,2.4l+l4,1441548,ignition,spark+plug,7212
So the old plugs were probably still close to that because they could NEVER be worn to be TWICE the normal gap of 0.043 because that means 0.86.
... but if you saw the NEW plugs at 1/2 of the old plug you should have used a gauge... . But you did not re-adjust the new plug to be certain it was the proper 0.043... you just put it in w/o measuring or adjusting the gap.
So if you are using the NGK plug it is supposed to be gapped at 0.043.
hello , when is reccomended to change the spark plugs at what mileage ? thanks for the video..
Omar Gerardo Rodriguez I'm actually not sure what the spark plug change interval is. I changed mine because I had a slight hesitation on initial acceleration. I decided to check them out just for the heck of it and found that they were worn badly so I decided to change them. If I had to guess they were the original plugs at 86000 miles period I probably wouldn't let it go that long. Maybe 40 to 50 thousand miles
festerfm Thank you for your help and prompt response
Amazingly, the 2013 Patriot says every 30,000 miles!!
Thank you so much, excellent video!
Thanks for this! Super helpful!
Thank You for the video
Why would they use a stupid oddball torx driver for some regular ass shit, thats what pisses me off. Everyone has a few screwdrivers but of course this simple task needs one that most people dont have haha anyway you can get away with a small flathead or anytjing else?
Don’t over tighten and use some anti seize on the threads.
Very helpful good on ya mate
If my mileage is at 36,000 on my Jeep should I change out the coil packs too or no ?
EclipseGuy97 no.. in all the years I've been working on stuff I've never changed coil packs unless they were not working. Now if you have a consistent misfire that does not go away after changing the spark plugs, try moving around your coil packs to different cylinders and see if you have a different cylinder misfiring or if it Remains the Same. Some people will tell you to change all the coil packs at the same time but again I only change a coil pack out if it's not working properly. Hope this helps! Any other questions let me know
Not necessary if u are not having any missfire issues, just plugs at about 35k to 40k tops.
Do I have to add grease or anything before I put in my spark plugs or dry will work....they are e3 spark plugs?????
+Charles Ragsdale it's actually recommended to add a small amount of antisieze to the threads of the plugs.. I realized I didn't after the vid was uploaded.
festerfm any brand or type in particular. I'm doing this for the first time.
Charles Ragsdale any antiseize will work.. it's a silverish colored paste with a brush in the bottle. Dab a little paste on 1 part of the threads then screw in the plug. When screwing it in, the paste will spread itself over all the threads. I've personally never used it on plugs b4 but when you are working with aluminum cylinder heads, you don't want to risk the spark plug getting stuck and damaging the threads on the plug.
I can't find a six inch driver set with 5/8 anywhere ..
Do you have to disconnect the battery first?
negative. you do not have to disconnect the battery first.
mike
mine is a 2015
2.4 l and is white too
how do i remove the grill only
When I,put,my, plugs,ad,wire's,in,then it wouldn't start,2014. Jeep patriot
thank you
This one I like.
I loosed the spark plugs but can not get them out? Anybodynknow why?
Be more specific. They unscrewed all the way? If you are using a normal socket, u will need a magnet or needle nose pliers to pull the plug out of the hole. 1/4" rubber hose may pull it up also if you slide it over the plug
@@festerfm i actually just got them out with a magnet but thanks for the reply
So u need more then one
Ja do Jeep compass 2.0 ecn zastosowałem Denso ik16tt
how much torque should I tight to spark plug?
yksmaple manual calls for 17-20 ft/lbs. I usually go finger tight, then a half turn to crush the spark plug gasket. haven't used a torque wrench for plugs in years
thanks :)
20ft lbs is the correct torque spec, just to be safe and be comfortable with the work I would recommend using a torque wrench..not a necessary thing when it comes to plugs tho. Just make sure you dont leave them loose or overtighten by accident.
And just think I was about to pay 300 Bucks
You said copper but they are platinum they last longer and ngk isnt original champion is champion is used on chrysler products
Armando Villarreal Actually NGK Lasers Plats are "double" platinum and Chrysler did use them on the 2.4 world engine applications my guess is because it was designed by Hyundai.
tighten spark plug.....uh.. about that much. Lol!
padrote lopez someone earlier asked about the torque spec and I looked it up for them. I've been working on stuff long enough to do these by feel. Sometimes I forget that not everyone can do that. Thanks for watching tho!
Great video on how to change spark plugs. But don't listen to this guy. If you're getting a misfire code find the root cause. Do diagnostic testing. If you don't know how to do testing then take it to a mechanic or learn how to do it yourself. It does "hurt" If you think changing the spark plug gonna solve your problem. It might solve it but if it doesn't then there goes your engine. How much is that gonna cost you?
Nevertheless, my girl has a 2015 patriot and your video will help me make this job quick
I have a 2015 Patriot with 2.4L that is not 4x4 js
Av8tore71 u can have a 2wd with the 2.4. But the 4wd model only has the 2.4. The 2.0 is only available in the 2wd
Thanks for the video
Thank you