+LVideo1000 Seems to be a problem very much with the Cummins ones haha. Never experienced or heard of it on the Daimler powered ones, plus the Daimler ones are faster and smoother :D
+DieselHeart BR218 Voith gearboxes aren't actually that bad, as BusThrash mentions, it seems to be a problem that Wrightbus is having with their eco shite setups on buses.
I am an Ex First bus driver. Voiths are the worst of all the automatic bus transmissions they deserve to get chucked in the bin. They are the Jerkiest in the range. They can't decide what gear is too low and too high (They end up with confused changing). They sometimes over-rev the engine before changing gear which jerks passengers backwards. And all the stupid squealy electric foot retarders are a hit and a miss as to what 'Slowing down' quality they produce. 50% of Voiths are smooth to the touch of the pedal. The other 50% 'Snatch' the bus and jerk it to slow it down.
+1ns4ne1d10t Exactly ZF's are the best or Allison but Voith they're full of jolting/jerking. Volvo IShift (12spd) is the best smooth as silk and plenty of torque (with the right engine)
@@DaleSteel bro. Every Enviro 200 MMC in London from 2017 onwards has a voith so that’s cap. Every streetlite in London has a voith gearbox so that’s cap. Every enviro 200 at Stagecoach in Britain from 2010 onwards is a voith. Come on now bro. And those buses have voith gearboxes. ZF makes 5/6 speed gearboxes. Voith makes 3/4 speeds. This is a 4 speed. Voith gearboxed engines also have a whine that you hear every time you accelerate and slow down. That whine is in this video. This ain’t a ZF
i honestly dont understand how VDL can get what is supposed to be the same sort of gearbox to be nice and smooth (most the time) and them Wrightbus just fucks up to such an extent it's in its own league of badness. Even more astonishing that Voith nor Wrights has done anything about the problem which surely must be well pointed out by now
+BusThrash Couldn't agree more, I mean our Euro 5 Pulsars (63 plates) are lovely and smooth now they're run in. The only time where they clunk and go crazy is when a driver applies the kickdown immediately after they have already done so and it's changed up. It sounds stupid, but I've never seem the Daimler Streetlites do this, the gearbox seems much happier with that engine for some reason...
Love the sound of this love streetlites!
sounds great!
What the hell happened to Voith? They used to make great gearboxes back in the day.
Not a voith
@@DaleSteel it is a voith
@@chungusgoat1460 yes
Great video. ☺️
That Voith thought they were a ZF 😂
Haha I love it when they do this! Our Enviro 300s do the same! Modern shite! :')
+LVideo1000 Seems to be a problem very much with the Cummins ones haha. Never experienced or heard of it on the Daimler powered ones, plus the Daimler ones are faster and smoother :D
I've experience this 100x more violent on a Daimler Streetdeck!
One of our StreetLites have kickdowns but they don’t suddenly change to a lower gear
These were dangerous at times for this
I had one self accelerate while trying to slow down
Its mainly because of the stupid eco setting
Somuch for the calling that voith makes that thier gearboxes are smooth :P
+DieselHeart BR218 Voith gearboxes aren't actually that bad, as BusThrash mentions, it seems to be a problem that Wrightbus is having with their eco shite setups on buses.
Well Voiths will never be like a ZF/Allison :)
+DieselHeart BR218 I'm not particularly a fan of Allisons to be honest but each to their own :)
I am an Ex First bus driver. Voiths are the worst of all the automatic bus transmissions they deserve to get chucked in the bin. They are the Jerkiest in the range. They can't decide what gear is too low and too high (They end up with confused changing). They sometimes over-rev the engine before changing gear which jerks passengers backwards. And all the stupid squealy electric foot retarders are a hit and a miss as to what 'Slowing down' quality they produce. 50% of Voiths are smooth to the touch of the pedal. The other 50% 'Snatch' the bus and jerk it to slow it down.
+1ns4ne1d10t Exactly ZF's are the best or Allison but Voith they're full of jolting/jerking. Volvo IShift (12spd) is the best smooth as silk and plenty of torque (with the right engine)
typical streetlites do what they do best: messing up the gears, great videos BTW 😊
+Portsmouth Bus Guy Oddly enough the Daimler ones don't do it though, from my experience anyway
+NorthEastbuses01 different mapping probably
+Portsmouth Bus Guy I have no idea. But the Daimler engines are definitely the superior of the two
Never been on one all of ours are cummins
+Portsmouth Bus Guy I forgot to say thanks for the support haha, so thank you :)
Almost certain voith gearboxes were not used on these buses. ZF gearbox
You can hear the whine, it’s a voith bro😭
Voith don't make gearboxes for small buses. They make gearboxes for big engines and trains. These use ZF
Also I've owned streetlites and big daf and man. So I know
@@DaleSteel bro. Every Enviro 200 MMC in London from 2017 onwards has a voith so that’s cap. Every streetlite in London has a voith gearbox so that’s cap. Every enviro 200 at Stagecoach in Britain from 2010 onwards is a voith. Come on now bro. And those buses have voith gearboxes. ZF makes 5/6 speed gearboxes. Voith makes 3/4 speeds. This is a 4 speed. Voith gearboxed engines also have a whine that you hear every time you accelerate and slow down. That whine is in this video. This ain’t a ZF
@@LondonBusThrashes they don't
I just recorded a streetlight it was verry rattely
i honestly dont understand how VDL can get what is supposed to be the same sort of gearbox to be nice and smooth (most the time) and them Wrightbus just fucks up to such an extent it's in its own league of badness. Even more astonishing that Voith nor Wrights has done anything about the problem which surely must be well pointed out by now
+BusThrash Couldn't agree more, I mean our Euro 5 Pulsars (63 plates) are lovely and smooth now they're run in. The only time where they clunk and go crazy is when a driver applies the kickdown immediately after they have already done so and it's changed up. It sounds stupid, but I've never seem the Daimler Streetlites do this, the gearbox seems much happier with that engine for some reason...
Gear ratios.
How are Wrightbus still making these? These should all be scrapped, cheap, gutless, awful things.
How much do they cost
This is why streetlites are utter crap. Wright desperately needs a replacement for these.