I wanna thank you for the tutorial, following your instructions I repair the automatic play-stop of my PL-570. I was "fear" when I confront to the complex mechanism, but was achieved. Precisely was the switch and with the contact cleaner was left perfect.
I've restored and veneered hundreds of PL-570s. Strobe light is flickering because of a bad capacitor on the power board. I think it's 47k 250v. The main motor doesn't need to be oiled. It's supposed to be dry.
If the timing engine is still working, you should take out the timing engine and clean/re-lube. The timing engine runs portions of the auto-return, the auto start, and also connects to the on/off switch for the platter. This is a point of catastrophic failure for this model affecting several systems. The timing motor has three plastic gears, one of which is mounted over a metal shaft (making it hard to reproduce this with a 3-D printer). Old grease binds these and has a tendency to crack the gears with enough tension. You can see the position of the timing engine on Page 24 of the SM on the upper left side of the "Sub Panel Assembly", as well as on Pg 30. All you have to do is disengage the spring clip, carefully note the order of the gears and mounting hardware, then clean and re-grease, and reassemble.
I have an XL A700s (100v Japanese market version of the 570) that has the aforementioned timing motor issue. I can source a replacement but the plastic gears on the auto function movement are missing a couple of teeth. Again I can source a replacement, I'd be looking at around £100+ ($130+) for the parts. I am in no way skilled enough to carry this work out on my own and was wondering how much you reckon it'd cost to get a decent tech to repair the auto functions?
@kij100 hard to give a definite answer. I'm a talented amateur and had to perform this repair on my own 570. Unfortunately I had a broken timing engine and had to source a replacement too. If I had to do the same repair again, I could get it done in under an hour, including the time to clean up the table after repair. But I've also fixed enough tables to know that repairing one thing can often lead to finding another fault that didn't reveal itself before, and then there's more time. So it depends on your specific table and the hourly rate of the technician working on it.
@kij100 also make sure whoever services your deck also pulls the replacement engine apart and regreases that. Mine had the same old grease in it and would have lead to the same result if I hadn't thought to check it first.
@billnorman2821 thanks for the reply. All good information to know. I'm currently weighing up the cost effectiveness of the repair against whether the table will actually get much use (I currently use a Micro Seiki DD7, but also have a Pioneer PL1800, a victor ql-y44f, and a Sony PS6750) so downsizing might be more in order!
Hi, I have a PL-570 that worked great until recently. When I go to play a record now, I press Start and the tone arm goes to the record. Then the needle makes contact with the spinning record. And then the turntable shuts off immediately. It shuts off before music is even played. What could be causing this? I could send it to my repair shop but it's either a far drive or mailing it. Plus it could be a few weeks for them to fix it and I'd like to fix it myself before Christmas to play carols.
30:18 at the bottom right corner of the screen you can see the wishbone spring sticking through the hole of the "claw" (looks abit like a Z). If you placed it back in its hole off camera, that's good, otherwise you still have a repair to complete on this unit. The automatic return functions of the tonearm are dependant on this claw, so the fact it is working at all is a fluke. Great video either way.
I recently picked up one of these. I have a question about it. I'm having the same issue but a little different. when I push the start it buzzes but nothing else and when I get the auto return it makes the same noise. when I move the arm over manual the table turns on and the light is on. do you happen to know the issue I'm dealing with? should I try the same things you did on your video? also where can I find a place to download the service manual?
Just got one of these with a runaway speed issue. I’ve detoxed everything and resoldered any obvious loose connections. The guy I got it from said he had “most” of the capacitors replaced. Any ideas on what to do next? Thanks!
I have serviced and restored roughly 30-40 various Pioneer players the past year, all of them Japanese models, from the 70's. And most of them without Quartz speed control. Many of these have speed issues. I can only advice to consequently swap the red Micro switches with new ones. They are in most cases responsible for speed issues. And new ones are cheap. It's simply not worth it to try to clean them. The old ones are usually worn out. Cleaning speed adjustment pots can of course often help, but usually it won't make the player run stable over time.
Me too. Just came in from Japan nov 6 2023. Same issues. Everything else work. But the auto start does not. Also the tone arm dont move when playing a record. Stays in a loop makes it sound as if the record has a scratch. But it does not.
I wanna thank you for the tutorial, following your instructions I repair the automatic play-stop of my PL-570. I was "fear" when I confront to the complex mechanism, but was achieved. Precisely was the switch and with the contact cleaner was left perfect.
I've restored and veneered hundreds of PL-570s.
Strobe light is flickering because of a bad capacitor on the power board. I think it's 47k 250v. The main motor doesn't need to be oiled. It's supposed to be dry.
Then why does it come with oil from the factory?
I could only hear music comping out of my arm? Plugged in and unplugged all my connections and still the same problem. Any suggestions?
If the timing engine is still working, you should take out the timing engine and clean/re-lube. The timing engine runs portions of the auto-return, the auto start, and also connects to the on/off switch for the platter.
This is a point of catastrophic failure for this model affecting several systems. The timing motor has three plastic gears, one of which is mounted over a metal shaft (making it hard to reproduce this with a 3-D printer). Old grease binds these and has a tendency to crack the gears with enough tension.
You can see the position of the timing engine on Page 24 of the SM on the upper left side of the "Sub Panel Assembly", as well as on Pg 30. All you have to do is disengage the spring clip, carefully note the order of the gears and mounting hardware, then clean and re-grease, and reassemble.
I have an XL A700s (100v Japanese market version of the 570) that has the aforementioned timing motor issue. I can source a replacement but the plastic gears on the auto function movement are missing a couple of teeth. Again I can source a replacement, I'd be looking at around £100+ ($130+) for the parts. I am in no way skilled enough to carry this work out on my own and was wondering how much you reckon it'd cost to get a decent tech to repair the auto functions?
@kij100 hard to give a definite answer. I'm a talented amateur and had to perform this repair on my own 570. Unfortunately I had a broken timing engine and had to source a replacement too.
If I had to do the same repair again, I could get it done in under an hour, including the time to clean up the table after repair.
But I've also fixed enough tables to know that repairing one thing can often lead to finding another fault that didn't reveal itself before, and then there's more time.
So it depends on your specific table and the hourly rate of the technician working on it.
@kij100 also make sure whoever services your deck also pulls the replacement engine apart and regreases that. Mine had the same old grease in it and would have lead to the same result if I hadn't thought to check it first.
@billnorman2821 thanks for the reply. All good information to know. I'm currently weighing up the cost effectiveness of the repair against whether the table will actually get much use (I currently use a Micro Seiki DD7, but also have a Pioneer PL1800, a victor ql-y44f, and a Sony PS6750) so downsizing might be more in order!
Thanks for the amendment! I’ve wondered what those plugs are for
Hi, I have a PL-570 that worked great until recently. When I go to play a record now, I press Start and the tone arm goes to the record. Then the needle makes contact with the spinning record. And then the turntable shuts off immediately. It shuts off before music is even played. What could be causing this? I could send it to my repair shop but it's either a far drive or mailing it. Plus it could be a few weeks for them to fix it and I'd like to fix it myself before Christmas to play carols.
30:18 at the bottom right corner of the screen you can see the wishbone spring sticking through the hole of the "claw" (looks abit like a Z). If you placed it back in its hole off camera, that's good, otherwise you still have a repair to complete on this unit. The automatic return functions of the tonearm are dependant on this claw, so the fact it is working at all is a fluke. Great video either way.
Good eye. I did catch that little spring sticking out too far and got it back into position (eventually)...
I recently picked up one of these. I have a question about it. I'm having the same issue but a little different. when I push the start it buzzes but nothing else and when I get the auto return it makes the same noise. when I move the arm over manual the table turns on and the light is on. do you happen to know the issue I'm dealing with? should I try the same things you did on your video? also where can I find a place to download the service manual?
It's the arm motor assembly. Be careful - 120V present there.
have you done any work on the PL 630? Mine works, but I am having some speed control issues.
Just got one of these with a runaway speed issue. I’ve detoxed everything and resoldered any obvious loose connections. The guy I got it from said he had “most” of the capacitors replaced. Any ideas on what to do next? Thanks!
Probably a bad IC.
I have serviced and restored roughly 30-40 various Pioneer players the past year, all of them Japanese models, from the 70's. And most of them without Quartz speed control. Many of these have speed issues. I can only advice to consequently swap the red Micro switches with new ones. They are in most cases responsible for speed issues. And new ones are cheap. It's simply not worth it to try to clean them. The old ones are usually worn out. Cleaning speed adjustment pots can of course often help, but usually it won't make the player run stable over time.
@janmagneto….940. You are so wrong regarding this model.
I have three of these…..only one works….it’s my prime rig…the other two need service. What is your price?
If you have one of non working PL-570 for sale, I might be interested.
@@karlen5774 im only interested in restoring.
Where are you located. I have a pl 570 i would like to have serviced. I live in victoria b.c
Southern Ontario. I can't take shipped in repairs, sorry.
I have this TT. How much to service?
Me too. Just came in from Japan nov 6 2023. Same issues. Everything else work. But the auto start does not. Also the tone arm dont move when playing a record. Stays in a loop makes it sound as if the record has a scratch. But it does not.
Your video is really helpful, I got my vinilengine account blocked, is possible share the service manual with me please
Bravo. Well done.
First like,then watch 😂✌️