$46 Million Jiu Jitsu Lawsuit - Rener Gracie
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- Опубликовано: 7 сен 2024
- Personal injury attorney discusses a recent $46 million dollar Jiu Jitsu lawsuit settlement. The settlement came as a result of leaving a man paralyzed. Rener Gracie was the expert in this case.
What are your thoughts on this case and settlement?
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If someone offered me $46million to be quadriplegic, I’d politely decline.
If someone offered me a billion dollars to be quadriplegic, I respectfully decline.
But if your quadriplegic then it would be stupid to decline the 46 million.
no amount of money would even make me consider it
@@0mniVerse777 If I had a bunch of kids, I'd happily accept after telling them to put me through euthenasia
The 46 million dollar man right there.
Depends what age. If I'm 45...I'd consider it
$46 mill aint S H I T for the ability to walk and pick up your own drink again. Ask anyone who’s been put in that position. Money ain’t nothing when it comes to your health.
What's he gonna use 46 million for anyway he can't pay to walk again 😂
@@RubenGarcia-ib8jv his family
@@RubenGarcia-ib8jv medical costs ????
It was completely accidental. Freak accident.
@@gaboelexo shoulda thought about that before
Man you know you fucked up as Jiu Jitsu practitioner when you have a Gracie work against you in court.
Or they payed the money he (Renner) asked for, which iirc was not a cheap price
anyone with 100k can afford their testimony, that's how expert testimony works
@@Mindstangle yup and iirc a lot of JJ and BJJ practitioners were not happy with what Renner did since it can be used/argued similar in any freak accident event in combat sports; since the dude while a white belt was not a beginner iirc he did JJ grapple tournaments so had experience with rolling and grappling prior to this event
Should Gracie have done it though.. it's his craft too.. what his club has an accident like this.. karma sucks.. I hope he gets his.. cause when u do these sports bad things can happen at any time... it's not really one person's fault over the other.. did he consent to grapple this guy.. odds r yes..
@@OnePunch8791 "its his craft too"
There is no too. His fakily literslly made the craft. Theyre all rich af he didnt need the money he only took it bc he clearly thought something was fked up about it 😊
Just so everyone knows, the dude who got paralyzed is walking again
Money well spent
Best news I've heard all day
My man said "46 mill??? SSSHHEEEEEETT"
how you crush your spine ? i been in HS wrestle and grappling game for while.
@@hotpopcorncake usually people don't train their spine aka back muscles. And when training in martial arts, you have to train your back muscles so as not to get hurt since your turning and twisting.
Since you are a wrestler I bet you did exercises on your lower back so nothing happens to you when you are grappling.
Edit: so we can assume that the ex-apprentice (victim) had not trained his muscles to start martial arts. Which resulted in his current situation.
Plus the instructor probably used him as an example of doing a move, even though you are supposed to have 2 experienced martial artists to perform it safely.
No amount of money can soften the pain of a life changing injury like that
look him up he can walk now lol he climbs mountains
1 million dollar assassin , 45 million dollars
Cry me a river....this is a contact sport. You think people in boxing should sue doe head injury? What about the NFL? Dont play sports if you dont want to get hurt.
@@puresourcenaturals2374 it was a second degree black belt taking on a white belt. It’s the jiu jitsu equivalent of making Hawking debate a 3rd grader, except you can get paralyzed.
It’s true he has a whole website supporting what a fantastic person he is and all he’s done and doing for disabled people.
His determination and commitment paid off, and come March he was able to walk out of the hospital with just a pair of crutches for support. “I could live on my own again. I was still in a wheelchair about 70% of the time, but I was able to walk around my apartment.” He then spent the rest of the year relearning everything. “How to dress, clean, cook, how to breathe, swallow, chew... crawl! I literally had to relearn life at 23 and 24.”
HE WAS ABLE TO WALK AGAIN
Good for him but he's entitled to every penny of that suit.
@@raisedbybears1991 it doesn't mean he wasnt bro
Thats amazing thanks for sharing this!
@@raisedbybears1991why are you fighting with air bro? No one said anything about him not getting the payout. Cool off and re-read.
@@kennanblake1562 it’s implied how he said it, cool off bro.
There are Quadriplegics that would pay 46 million to walk again or just sit by themselves. That's so messed up.
too bad they don't have the money. xD
Money is gonna go into medical costs
He's walking again, look it up. He's done a 22 mile hike apparently
@@glinomarauder2995 even if they had the money there is no cure
Doesn't matter, the pay out is ridiculous. Nobody owes him that.
that guy wanted to learn how to defend himself and ended up not being able to defend himself against a newborn
hey guys this anime profile picture is who you want your philosophy on legal liability and jiu jitsu from
Blackbelt paralyzed white belt
@@154239tony wow genius take bro thanks
@@Mindstangle lmfao
@@Mindstanglebw3074
As a martial artist and a healthcare professional I do think this is fair. They 2nd degree black belt is a master of his craft and has spent upwards of 20 years on the mat (I presume). For him to put someone in that position is completely negligent.
Yep, also if he is the one training the claimaint or the claimant is some sort of student to him. Then he has a duty of care towards him and must ensure his safety.
Similair to how a company who sells/manufactures a product is responsible for the safety of customers who use or consume that product.
what position was he put in?
@@thomasseeley8124upside down with his head perpendicular to his spine
Of course it's negligent but not $46M negligent, people don't even get that for dying. A few million is fair, he knew he was taking risk as well, it's not like jiu jitsu is a walk in the park.
I'm an instructor too and I would never hurt my students
A Jiu Jitsu instructor is supposed to protect and nurture their students. Hell, I used to have crackly ass shoulders and when my instructor heard my shoulder pop while rolling he told me to chill out and assess myself for any pain so we stopped rolling. It’s simple things like caring about your students which make a good Jiu Jitsu gym. Throw the book at the black belt, he knew what he was doing and in all honesty should be taken out back and given the same that his student got from him.
Ya cause a grown make can’t make his own decisions
This guy should of never been doing something that could hurt you
@@youpartake420 with this logic i assume you dont drive
@@youpartake420 how does this have anything to do with the situation? Ofc he can make his own decisions no shit, no one is arguing against that. The problem is that the highly skilled black belt put a begginer in a very dangerous position
@@toe9787 again he did not he put himself their
I wouldn't be surprised if the insurance company ends up lawyering up to find some loophole to not pay anything at all
Yep
They would get sued and their reputation tarnished. They could seek to recover punitive damages from DelMar but they would have to pay at least the first $20 mil is my guess
There's a limit on the policy. Probably easier to pay the limit and walk away then get into federal coverage litigation and lose more money.
They consistently pay after verdicts. That would literally be reputation suicide for said insurance company and they’d loose fuck tons of business over it because people wouldn’t trust they’d be receiving money from a claim. In which case the quadrapelegic would still get the gym and all it’s assets unless they total over 45 million.
LaWyErInG uP
My coach told me about this one day at class and said he’s gotta add more restrictions to make sure people don’t get hurt cause of this case, really sad stuff
Good on him
Black belt should have been looking out for him. We're supposed to take care of each other on the mats
especially a black belt to a white belt
That’s such bullshit what’s right is right and what’s wrong is wrong have some integrity about yourself Jesus society if fucked up.
@@maxtaetle420 your also the same guy who says cops should stick together after brutally murdering an innocent man or woman. Y’all are sick in the head
@@maxtaetle420 There’s nothing he could’ve done it was a freak accident. It wasn’t anybody’s fault.
@@RTVLiam lmao the drunken drivers tell the same story.
I did jujitsu back then. Was practicing and the other guy grabbed my leg and put too much pressure then dislocation happened.
He apologized but I could clearly see that he didn't feel sorry.
*For people who commenter that I should have taped: it was a training session where you hold onto the opponent and the goal is to let the opponent practice switching position to escape the lock. It wasn't about submission.
Happened to my brother. Unfortunately a lot of MMA gyms are a magnet for maniacs and without supervision things like this happen.
Some chumps have such a big ego. I’m a bigger dude and always have little cunts trying to hurt me when I train at random gyms so I never do anymore.
It's a combat sport so it would sadly attract those kinds of people I imagine
Yep!!! And this is exactly why I don’t do it lol. I loved football but didn’t play in high school. Why? Because I didn’t want a concussion, torn acl, or broken bone AS THE RESULT of an ego maniac teammate in practice.
Watching people make fun of their classmate that they knocked out in practice even at the time seemed…….ignorant af 😂. Thank God I had common sense.
Tap early. Only you can feel amount of pressure on your joint , and it’s your job to tap , not your opponent. His job is relieve pressure as soon as you tapped.
If someone offered me $46 million dollars for being quadriplegic, i would just walk out of the room.
I’d throw my hands up in disgust before I walked out though
All that walking in this scenario without legs that work is surprising to me.
stolen comment
every video ever the same thing
yikes
I see what you did there
@@5FIVE6CHRIS r/whoooosh
100% fair. I heard the guy is much better now, so good for him 🤝
Im so greatful for having such good instructors in my gym.
Right. Anyone and I mean anyone I ever trained with that was better then me (most) always made sure in was and that I was learning.
Well you probably know from experience like I do that there are some people in Dojos and gyms that just like to hurt less experienced individuals or just try and out right hurt people.
Having the moment your life changed forever on video is so chilling
I agree. I have my last (2911th)skydive on video... I can't get my own screams out of my head. PTSD is a mother fucker.
@@HighTher3way to make this about you… who cares??
The person in this video became a quadriplegic…
You got PTSD from skydiving
Snowflake
White Belt: I’m here to learn about this sport
Black Belt: And I took that personally
😂😂 but still, poor guy.
That’s rough. I wouldn’t take Zucks life and money to be him.
I’m okay with grinding to make my own millions.
He was wrestler and a sandbag white belt. Not new to the sport.
@@chasingmypinnacle You’ll like never even make thousands. Lol.
@@ryancorsaut5177 I make six figures kiddo. You’re broke kiddo 🤣
@@chasingmypinnacle Neither of those statements are true. Do you make a habit of being full of shit?
Apparently he was able to walk again. I hope he’s able to take that 45 mil and enjoy a comfortable and fulfilling rest of his life.
You think some rando bjj school has 46mill to hand out?
@@hugus800did you even watch the video lol, damn attention span of a brick
@@Broodjemetbeleg to be fair at the time I had not. But the insurance will do what it does best and say they don't cover that.
@@hugus800wishful thinking on your part. They’ll pay up and the school will keep running most likely.
I am a Commercial Insurance Agent, at best, the business has a 1,000,000 General Liability. Small martial arts studios has about 1M, good luck collecting the rest
And then there’s a guy in the comment above you in the replies talking about “$4 million isn’t enough for 30 year old man to live the rest of his life" (Because someone said 46,000,000 was way too much and it should be maybe 4 million). Like the way I see it is for one the guy has to know the dangers of combat sports and that this could happen to him at any time when he goes in that gym. Two I can understand having to help pay for hospital bills or whatever, but I have to pay all this money to be responsible to pay for The rest of this man’s life, seems a bit much. I’m not saying that what happened to him isn’t horrible, But to try to get the gym owner to pay that much money is ridiculous. And as I said five or six times already now Gracie just is a piece of garbage in my opinion. He only put his two cents and actually agreed to do this cause he got paid hundreds of thousands of dollars to do it.
Thanks for the knowledge.
It’s so sad, this man will always struggle. They may have to sue the instructor personally too.
@@Kingx90 he’s literally climbing mountains and back doing physical activity. And why, he knew the possibilities of combat sports before signing up, why should someone else pay for that?
@@MrNobody91 no, you arent expecting some black belt to go at you and then paralyze you during a friendly practice spar. Dude went hard af against a white belt and the gym allowed it which left them liable. The vast majprity of people who get into mixed martial arts training do so to learn how to defend themselves and stay in shape, the dude wasnt out here trying to become a pro combat sportsman.
Who was his physical therapist? Bro was able to recover and rock climb .
Really? So he faked it for a couple days or?
@@bernie3075 no it took years of work
@@bernie3075 Sure bro he faked being paralysed and stood up and walked out of the hospital.
@@bernie3075 he replaced his fake broken spine with his real healthy spine when the doctor wasn't looking, yes
Wait he recovered?!??
As a white belt myself during a roll, I notice I was going to hurt my opponents neck. I immediately let go. We continued training. He went home to his family that night.
That last sentence
That never happened and dude went home to his family just on life support. Is your gym insured? Did they have you sign a waiver? Accidents happen regardless of skill level that's why professions fight in sanctioned leagues with reffs and medical staff on hand. Do you think your in a sewing club because bjj is hand to hand combat 😅
@@mattsabeast5 I wish it would’ve been you I was training with.
That money can't fix his body man. Imagine not even being able to lift a spoon or cut your own steak.
Imagine not even being able to left your arms or legs. In some cases move your neck.
i believe someone said he is walking again
i think in a few years, its def going to be possible
a quick search said he walked across san diego for his diploma. im almost positive theres still damage from the injury but he isnt completely paralyzed. add to that if he did get paid and its a good situation to be in.
@@timgoodliffe waiting those years is just not worth it. Maybe if there was certainty but without it imagine the agonizing wait for advances in medicine while you are entirely unable to move
The black belt should've been taking it easy on him and being gentle.
He wasn't going hard, you can see in the video. Although it is a move low levels shouldn't be taking.
It's like a white belt attempting a flying armbar, super dangerous.
@@lavagelada Exactly. You already know he’s in the wrong even if the intent wasn’t completely there to do that level of wrong. 46mill is just a number to insurance companies anyways.
He should at the least make sure he doesn’t get injured as the more experienced of the two he had control of the situation. It’s like people who go too rough in sparring like it’s a title bout. That’s not how it’s supposed to be
@@lavagelada how can you say he wasn't going hard? The man's paralyzed
@@dreamman5588 bc I also do bjj lol it wasn't on purpose, was an accident, and injuries are so common. Unfortunately they happen
Dude went in to learn self defense and ended up being a victim of a crime
What was the crime? I feel terrible for him, but he signed up for Brazilian jujitsu classes are where he likely signed a waiver, letting him know that even death is a possibility when training, BJJ. This is just a tragic accident.
@@braddaddis371 I highly doubt it's legal to have people sign waivers that would actually waive negligent crippling, or death for standard martial arts training class BJJ, or not. Because it's not just a dangerous occupation where accidents can occur, if something happened to cripple, or kill someone, the other person made a decision directly leading to it, even if they didn't intend for it to happen, you can't waive stuff like that under normal circumstances. Which is indeed why this lawsuit justifiably succeeded.
@@anthonypolonkay2681 There usually are exceptions clauses for competitive sports in sanctioned tho, otherwise we would need to go and arrest dozens of boxers, muay thai, MMA fighters, footballers and so on for all the concussions and so on. I think the argument was rather that the more experienced fighter knew the risk was not in relation and went on anyways. Gracie probably testified so the club could be blamed instead of the sport itself.
@Anthony Polonkay there are waivers thaf excuse the gym of liability because you yourself agreed to take the lessons. No ofcourse everything is supposed to be done safely but as you see in the video some people fail around when getting submitted and have to be gently lowered on the mat sometimes. I'm not saying it's his fault but I do think its a ridiculous case
I can see the case for waivers on professional level contests, as at that level people are so skilled the risk of serious injury, or death that it's at its least avoidable. But as far as any actual training goes,training isn't the contest itself, that includes sparring as training. If you negligently go in for a technique that has a high liklyhood to injure, or kill someone during simple training, and end up injuring, or killing them then you should be held accountable for thar. Because training has no need for split second decision to win like a match does,during training, or sparring you should 100% be taking every precautions to be ready to stop your aggress onto your opponent at any sign of trouble like that. But the guy in this video took the training to seriously and paralyzed someone. While I'm sure he definatly didn't intend for that result he 100% caused that incident. It was no accident.
Gracie just agreed to be a witness so the club gets blamed instead of jiujitsu as a whole
Imo that's a big "just"
To be fair even a Purple Belt should have had the skill to not do this esp with how Jujitsu Belt system SHOULD work (every blue Belt can at least beat 99% of white belts, every purple belt can beat 99% of Blue belts and so on) so this was nothing less then extreme negligence at least.
Yes but for good reason. Jiujitsu shouldn't be blamed at all for this. This instructor did the equivalent of driving recklessly, most people don't understand that from seeing a story like this. They just think "Jiujitsu bad" because they don't have first hand experience.
I don't do Jiu Jitsu, but I am a certified Taekwondo instructor with self-defense krav training for over 5 years now (currently a 4th degree)
As instructors we have the direct responsibility that every student that we train, that their safety is #1 priority over anything. We have to be consistently aware of any limitations (physically, mentally, or via experiences) that each student has. If one of my students gets injured in class (and it has happened before), I would feel extremely upset and take full responsibility for my actions. Luckily, the parent of this incident and the student were fully accepting of the accident and forgiving (resulted in a broken wrist), and insurances got everything paid for, and nothing was done to me as a punishment. I do take extra precautions when evaluation practices, overseeing students, and doing demonstrations now since that incident.
I do think the price of this suit is quite high, but any expert/black belt/trainer who is highly qualified in the martial arts field was a great testimonial play book by the plaintiffs.
just have him sign the liability paperwork before you workout.
"Na I'll do it later."
I believe he did sign a waiver in this case but still won
@@ayron419 Yeah, You can't sign away negligence.
That wont always hold up in court. Contracts are thrown out all the time. Literally every day
In this case, it wouldn't matter. it's pure negligence, if not malicious intent
A waiver doesn't protect the business from negligence. That's what the plaintiff had to prove and the jury believed happened.
That's intentional, how could a 2nd degree black belt who knows what's he's doing break this guys spine by accident
There are gyms that give away belts like cookies
@@clashwithmoi8926 could be true but if he's throwing him or taking him down with that amount of force then he truly knew what he was doing
Something similar but not as tragic happened to me in wrestling. There’s a lot of assholes out there trying to prove something for no reason. I was a promising freshman with no wrestling experience. Was doing pretty good against other freshmen, and this senior wanted to show me up and teach me a lesson. When we were practicing moves he pulled a fast one and flipped me as hard as he could. I was new still only 2nd week in and didn’t know to to break the fall. Put my arm out and it fucked up my wrist to this day. Yes I fell wrong, yes I didn’t know, and yes I was a novice. Senior didn’t even have to do that shit to me, it seemed intentionally malicious.
Because the white belt didn't know. They teach you how to be thrown and fall properly and they also teach how to move in situations like these.
have you even seen the video? it obviously wasn’t intentional. It was a freak accident and tbh, it was the guys fault for using his head to try stopping his body from rolling. however, someone with as much experience as the blackbelt should know what is and isn’t dangerous, and purposely avoid things that may be dangerous because untrained opponents might do something stupid.
Yes he deserves that money. Unfortunately there are a lot of these assholes in gyms and it isn’t just jiu jitsu. You have guys in kickboxing and boxing gyms who target new guys so they can boost their egos by beating the ever loving shit out of them. Sometimes you want a light spar and you go like 25% power just enough they can feel it and they decide to throw haymakers and put you to sleep in a spar. More people should be sued and face legal consequences for these actions.
Yea they have a weak ego and need to show of to weaker people. What do you expect from people that dont achieve anything else in life
@@TheFrenchmanCooks justin you seem to be incredible gdless and of no real pride. You literally ask for donation on ur channel so its very ironic to call people ladies
@jr g exactly a number of martial artists become vegetables or experience major injuries because of dickhead training partners.
Primarily angry piss ants with a chip on their shoulder. Taught how to hurt people. Therapy first people
@@TheFrenchmanCooks “reading too deeply” mother fucker a man could have never been able to leave his bed for the rest of his life because someone wanted to look cool by beating up on the noobie.
YES, the verdict is fair. The club should have kept their instructors, which a 2nd degree black belt is functioning as, even informally, under better control. No excuse for this.
accidents happen. weird that this does not happen every day since there are so much people doing bjj. And the neck is fairly fragile so its one wrong move and youre done.
@@vihreelinja4743 How often do you hear about this happening? Not acceptable. Guy cared more about "winning" than the students safety.
@@vihreelinja4743 accidents don’t happen with professionals that try not to roll their body weight on someone’s neck. This guy was trying to dominate because of his huge ego.
@@rodgerbane3825 Freak injuries happen literally all the time in literally every sport. Some people have broken their neck playing basketball, and you're surprised someone doing BJJ would too?
No. You want into a combat fighting gym, you have to be willing to die or get seriously hurt. If you can’t accept the possibility, you need to leave. Unfortunate accidents can happen. Grappling like bjj or wrestling is so complex that even at black belt (which takes over 10 years to get usually), it is possible to make mistakes that can injure your opponents. No one is forcing you to do jiu-jitsu or any other combat sport. You can just not sign up if you feel you might get hurt
Absolutely fair. As the senior fighter the life of your sparripartner is literally in your hands. He controls the pace and ANY injury is entirely YOUR responsibility and shoukd be held accountable.
I think it’s a little much, but still on the side of the man injured. You’re taking risk at combat sports, this is one of them. The thing is, the gym fucked up by allowing such an experience led guy do dangerous moves on a novice
As a member of the BJJ community for nearly 20 years and a 2nd degree black belt myself let me paint a picture for an analogy..
A well known airline (let’s say Delta) crashes and gets sued, the plaintiff then hires a competitor, let’s say American Airlines, as an expert witness..
American Airlines publicly states on their social media that that the pilot was negligent, intoxicated and didn’t know what they were doing and that the plane was completely unkempt. They state that this type of thing can happen to anyone that flys….
…Unless of course you fly with American Airlines..
They finally release the footage and people start to notice that all these inflammatory initial comments by them were not true and that it seemed like a freak accident, they continue to edit their post’s as backlash occurs to try and cover their a$$.. we also find out they were paid a sizable amount of money to be that expert witness..
This is exactly what happened in this case..
I was a spazzy white belt with wrestling experience and since I was also a weight lifter, I was able to give the blue belts a hard time during free rolls.
Black belt instructor caught a whiff of this and called me over to roll. He had me in guard and did some sort of fancy sweep, next thing I knew I couldn’t breathe and there was a sharp ass pain in my side. Dude broke 2 of my ribs.
Worst part was he tried to get me to come back onto the mat to roll, and laughed when I told him I popped a rib. Dude was an ass and ruined BJJ for me.
Fucking hate people like that
Judo and BJJ instructors (at least in the US) absolutely hate wrestlers from my experience. I did 2-3 years Judo/BJJ any time I used something from wrestling in tournaments I’d end up getting points taken or stalling called. Instructors hate it even if you’re humble because they want you to go through the ropes of being new and paying due without realizing you’ve already done that from the previous sport
I broke a rib in my 4th class, instructor paired me with a guy who was probably 280, I’m 210.
Sounds to me like you were an asshole wrestler going too hard during sparring and the instructor put you in your place. When you have one student who is making the class unenjoyable for everyone he rolls with, you have to put them in their place.
@@mrtimjitsu I was a spazzy white belt, and I was giving the same energy that the blue belts were giving to me. You sound like a terrible coach.
I’ve been training for a long time, so seeing something like this is absolutely heartbreaking.
Hes walking again... rener gracie got paid 100k to testify
You mean the paralyzed guy is OK? If so, that totally changes this.
Yeah you pay experts for their time and that is always the case.
@@stevenbaker7894 it should be about bringing in the biggest expert cause on side has a war chest.
@@ericyen1 oh so the gym didn't provide any expert witnesses. The jury only sided with the plaintiff because they recognized the name? A lot of assumptions.
He may be walking but he is fucked up, a lot of limitations, he is not going to be 100%
"Man, it's gonna be hard to win a case like that."
"It'll be super easy! Barely an inconvenience!"
Rener taught me BBJ when I was a kid. I don’t go to Gracie anymore, but the care for his craft really stuck with me. Genius move to have him testify
When I got my blackbelt in karate years ago, my sensei told me "it's your fault if you hit someone, and your fault if you get hit".
Yes but Karate you are not supposed to make contact, in this case it's or very unlucky or done on purpose, because in 50 years I have never seen such an injury on a tatami.
The result is catastrophic, but my question is: what in the fuck did he do to get him there, that's some sort of neck crank.
The white belt is not even used to roll like that, this is crazy, you pull such a move in training.
But I am with you 100% as a second dan he should have known better, truth, I reckon he did it on purpose, because you have to be one hell of a moron to paralyse someone during a training with that kind of experience.
@@thewizardsofthezoo5376 we spar with full contact at my club, but yeah the higher ranked person is meant to be able to control their fight
@@B00B13S_L0L Well , in shotokan, we did light contact to the body and full control to the face, but you might not want to break some rich kid's nose and get the whole Dojo into trouble
You would already get whipped with bamboo stick for not putting your foot right, imagine if you lose control and break somebody's nose.
You go into a Kumite with the sensei and he will beat the living shit out of you, full contact.
I know because I went there once for folding a guy that missed his bar and I did mildly touch him with a yako-zuki(?). He was a pussy anyway, made a big fuss over nothing, where the truth is that he had the reflexes of a dead horse, as we would declared the shot and did as slow as I could, snd it was maybe 10%, but I got him exactly where it belonged.
Got the shit beaten out by JC Vandamme's teacher, that's gotta count for something. ;)
@@thewizardsofthezoo5376 yeah I feel you lol, we do full contact with the sense that the other guy can hit you back so usually people aren't getting fucked on the whole time, since the higher ranked person is controlling the match, but if the worse person goes harder than we want then we bop them right back. More like full contact is always on the table but people have work the next day and usually don't. Every once and a while though some young guy will show up and they're new & cocky so they go all in, and we humble them later that night.
@@B00B13S_L0L Coming back to your first statement, controlling is part of the training indeed. There is really no point otherwise, if there is no DO there is no point, rules of engagement is what differentiate fights between warriors and women, you can always hit someone from behind with a baseball bat, but that's not the way.
For instance with MMA I disagree with the super necessary hits to a downed/out opponent, thank god they forbid soccer kicks, but I find it overkill and a lack of self-assurance, self-control, basic decency, you name it. Some do stop when the guy is out, but others don't.
What's the point, if not showing what a scumbag you are.
Same for the 2nd dan, no need to show off with a white belt, it shows how stupid and potentially dangerous you are, but not in a good way.
Yes. Screw insurance... they got it.
Some of these instructors just wanna hurt people. They got no wee wees or something cuz they're just mad at the world.
There was a taekwondo instructor at an academy that had a crazy power trip in my neighborhood, really cynical shit
My mother took my sister and me to a karate class when we were kids and this as*hole black belt well in his 20s yelled at us and embarrassed us for not bowing to a painting of some guy after leaving the dojo. 😒 there are a bunch of mooks out there!
Copy pasted from another response I made - Something similar happened to me in wrestling. There’s a lot of assholes out there trying to prove something for no reason. I was a promising freshman with no wrestling experience. Was doing pretty good against other freshmen, and this senior wanted to show me up and teach me a lesson. When we were practicing moves he pulled a fast one and flipped me as hard as he could. I was new still only 2nd week in and didn’t know to to break the fall. Put my arm out and it fucked up my wrist to this day. Yes I fell wrong, yes I didn’t know, and yes I was a novice. Senior didn’t even have to do that shit to me, it was intentionally malicious.
Dude was clearly flexing his belt and being a bully. He deserves life.
So you were there when it happened?
Tbh you are training in a high risk sport and there are risks that come with it
@@angelo08280it's not a high risk sport, it's a lot lower risk than wrestling, judo, boxing, etc.
@@InvisibleHotdog oh ok
He wasnt really flexing his belt he just was rolling with him and the guy unfortunately landed in a bad position. It’s not an uncommon move and the idea that he’s a black belt so he shouldn’t spar white belts isn’t really the case either because that’s the best way for white belts to learn because black belts can usually better control the flow of the fight but accidents still happen and we can just hope the white recovers to the best of his ability.
He can walk now and still suffers but he lives life to his fullest
As a black belt, we know better. As someone who hates juijitsu, this is the reason I hate it. Every school I've visited there's always that 1 or 5 or 15 people who are overly aggressive and they actively try to end your career... while rolling.
I doubt your an actual black belt talkin like that. No black belt hates jiu jitsu.
When I first did a class I was doing really good and a purple belt decided to try and crush my internal organs with a scorpion lock? Basically tied his legs around my waist as tight as he could and I wanted to smash him tbh. He damaged my back for 6 months and for what to say he injured a white belt? Sad man
@@kieronjdonovan these are the reasons i dont want to learn
@@kieronjdonovan doing good? You mean being an ass and being spazzy? Sometimes guys like that need to be put in their place.
@@kieronjdonovan and wtf is a scorpion lock
What is the reasoning behind the amount? It should be their projected salary until retirement, plus some for loss of comfort and ability to care for others. That doesn't amount to more than 5mil in most cases.
Gracie family standing up for this man is honorable, so sad that man is paralyzed...
The black belt has an obligation to ensure the safety of his partner. Any colored belt in BJJ will tell you rolls with white belts are different because you want them to learn, you want them to continue the BJJ journey, and you want them to roll safe. Ego cost the insurance carrier 46 million and ruined lives.
You would make great content if you made full length videos detailing cases like this
I love how he says, “Well it’s the insurance company who’s really going to pay the $46M award” like the liability insurers aren’t going to raise premiums on all businesses to cover increased risk of 8-figure verdicts. The costs of jury verdicts of this magnitude are, in the long rung, always borne by the public in the form of vastly inflated premiums
Absolutely. That black belt just ruined that man's life. I know it wasn't in a malicious manner but it happened.
How much difference is there between malice and gross negligence when it reaches this caliber? As someone that used to do martial arts, this "Black belt" had none of the restraint or foresight required to protect his students.
Not really sure ruined, Sure he is not 100% but his 70% is way better than most people, After years of rehabilitation he is doing mountain climbing and hiking amongst other things, It is not like he is a vegetable.
That’s more than fair and honestly, he should’ve pushed for more money. No amount of money is worth being paralyzed from the neck down.
Straight up not even a bill which is crazy that’s an insane amount of money but I mean how you gonna enjoy that shit if you can’t even feed yourself
100% fair. Renner was right. Dude was a bad instructor for putting his student in such danger
The guy wasn’t in any danger it’s a common technique that’s has been used for a very long time without any problems
@@Nittyking420 What a stupid answer. You’re clearly not understanding what he’s saying. Every technique in BJJ is safe under the right instructor, but can also be extremely dangerous when done by the wrong person.
A fucking guillotine is harmless if controlled, but can also literally kill someone. The problem is that the guy had no self control and didn’t stop when he should have, why is this so difficult for you?
Jesus people are getting dumber these days… it’s just getting worse to the point that I’m losing hope for humanity. Fuck.
for really. no black belt should be nobbling noob's.
@@Nittyking420 not in danger?😂🤡 dumbass he paralyzed him
@@Nittyking420wrong angle. That made it dangerous.
I didn't know you could be paralyzed from that. Makes me hesitant to try Jiu Jitsu
Depending on the part of your neck that you crush, your body could even lose its ability to breath on its own
This story is very suspicious, odds are the black belt used a dangerous move and the white belt spazzed out in a similarly dangerous way
@@andrewlachance2062 This. My first jiu jitsu instructor called it "being herky jerky". Noobs don't have the experience to know to not get broken. I didn't study the case, but I'm guessing the black belt was doing a neck crank and the white belt didn't tap because it wasn't painful enough or they spazzed out to escape and broke themselves. If it was a demonstration, the black belt was demonstrating a move out of the white belt's league and he didn't know how to react. I don't know how they got past the "this might kill you" waver. I've had to sign one at every gym I've ever trained in before I could begin.
He did the move with piss poor rushed technique
@@ramonfry9673waivers don’t usually hold up under intense legal scrutiny. It happens in medicine as well. I think thats a good thing. A waiver is not a get out of trouble free card. Everything you described is true, which makes it worse that this school and black belt put machismo and toxic masculinity over the safety of clients over paying to learn an outdated form of combat.
No amount of money could replace me walking on my own two legs, and picking up a controller with my hands.
Nerd
Gracie IS the Industry .
Not really. They were mostly hype. They claim they were undefeated for 65 years yet they regularly get their a**es handed to them.
@@joninwv what a terrible take. They single-handedly brought the discipline to the mainstream. You don’t have to be undefeated to be legendary. Nobody expected a skinny guy like Royce who had little to no standup to be able to manhandle roided up dudes 50 lbs heavier than him. They revolutionized MMA.
@@Avogadros_number well they modified Japanese jiu jitsu and then got it popular with the mainstream. Not exactly the founders…
@@Avogadros_number not anymore
@@slimesizecounts5873 where did I say they founded Jiu Jitsu? I swear everyone on this app just wants to argue.
Out of every case of BIG compensation, there's 10,000 cases that either are dismissed or very poorly compensated. This is US 'justice' in brief.
show proof for your outlandish claim lmfao
My general rule of lawsuits is that if the injured party can be compensated with money and returned to the state they were in before the incident, they deserve the compensation. In this case, the injured party does not want to be paralyzed and would gladly return the money instead.
No amount of money is worth NEVER walking again. I hope that guy gets recovery in some form
Right. I wouldn't do it for a billion dollars.
If it was just legs then i could live with it, atleast you can still have some quality of life and do shit without them and considering pretty much everything i like doing involved sitting down i'd be ok, but being quadriplegic though would be too much
Lucky for him rehab went well and is apparently mountain climbing now
Not only is he in the industry but he’s a Gracie. The Gracie and machado families are the biggest influencers of bjj in history.
the gym has a gracie on thier side too. This guy left that part out.
The Gracie family is royalty in the BJJ world
biggest scam artist
@@adrianolini1889 kron gracie showed bjj dont work in mma no more.
@@Teddy-se8qb lmao what are you smoking? Kron’s performance was dogshit. Doesnt mean BJJ dont work anymore. Look at Charles Oliveira, Aljo, Jailton Almeida, Paul Craig, Mackenzie Dern, and Brian Ortega. It totally works if you have other skillsets.
If safety is not the first priority in a Jui jitsu gym and monitored then find another place.
As someone who knows very little about Jiu Jitsu and the circumstances... I think the experts are the ones to listen to
Rener was also paid 3k per hour of testimony and billed for over 40 something hours. It doesn’t take over $120,000 to give an honest assessment. The highest risk of injury, to and from, normally come from a new untrained squirrely white belt. Not saying that gym is totally in the clear, but still…
You think because he was paid a lot he was lying? I don't think you have any concept of how expert witnesses work in high profile/ high award cases. It cost 0 dollars to give an honest assessment. So are we now entitled to their labor for free? Sounds like slavery. If you think they aren't being honest. Higher an expert witness that can prove them wrong.
Second the responsibility relies on the more experienced party not the inexperienced belt. If an untrained driver gets into a car with a driving instructor. Then the driving instructor tells them to commit an illegal maneuver. Then liability lies with the instructor and you can sue them for damages. In this case the black belt was acting in an unsafe manner despite having the experience to know its unsafe
@@nex8000 3k an hour lol. His testimony fucked bjj
How does it feel to be braindead?
@@nex8000 chill i think hes dead.
Yeah that money he will need for his care but they should have not been rolling that hard with a white belt
How do you think they should pair people going forward? Belt, weight, age all being factors.
@@619injured I’ve done MMA since a young age. Most experienced dojos or gyms won’t pair up people who are more than 2-3 “belts” when rolling.
When doing light work or techniques you can be paired w a black belt or higher but that’s why he’s in trouble. Experienced trainers know that you can easily hurt someone so you go easy on less knowledgeable opponents or training partners. Fighting with honor.
@@dreworyan5652 I get that, but we dk the circumstances, maybe white belt wanted the guy to teach him a technique or literally could’ve been anything. But my thing is you have to know anything is possible doing combat sports, even just practicing in the gym. I also just think $46,000,000 is wayyyy too much. Gracie just agreed cause all he cares about is $.
@@MrNobody91 completely agree, Renner should be ashamed of himself for that testimony. I watched the video, I’ve used pretty much the same technique that black belt used in rolling a bunch of times, never hurt anybody. It was just a freak accident.
@@HerculesLoyd yeah, if you go look at a few other comments and look at the bs people are saying to me for saying this exact thing and you’ll prolly be appalled tbh. People are saying he cranked his neck on purpose, saying a black belt should never roll with a white belt (as if it’s bad to train with someone lower than you or to help them with techniques), and all sorts of other trash takes.
Like it’s so wild to me that people can sit here and blame this man and almost in a way that makes it seem they think he purposely did this. Like I’ve been saying from the beginning, it’s combat sports at the end of the day and sadly these things can happen to anyone. You have to know the dangers of what you’re doing.
And besides, the guy legit just climbed a mountain and all this other stuff, so I’m pretty sure he’s doing better. Not to say he doesn’t deserve something, but I think $46,000,000 is a bit much.
And Gracie should be ashamed of himself for going against gym owners tbh. God forbid this ever happens in his gym, I bet he’d do anything but pay the person.
this is why I never trained in jujitsu all the locks and holds, you gotta really trust who your partner is & hope he isn't a show off or bully
This is why it’s important to train safely. I’m a big guy but I’m always careful with who ever I’m training with. Things happen and it sucks but we have to use common sense
This is why I play guard in class you never know what can hurt your neck and after training for more than 10 years and suffering concussions and whiplash the best saying in mma is d defend yourself at all times, and sometimes being to opportunistic is a person's greatest demise. The black belt is so dumb for letting this happen when there are so many forms of guard you can teach new students when grappling. This makes me sad because I love mma.
You get neck cranked from guard bro
@Scorpion Suerte that's illegal in all belts. also, since you know everything you would know to simply unlock your guard and switch to better position.
@Scorpion Suerte you're talking about closed guard, but there's too many forms of guard from bottom for you to say that with absolutism. The way it sounds, you're basically throwing away the whole sport and my statement due to a stupid attack that has probably never finished anyone in an mma match
@@samirmussa1 Was about to say exactly that - I'm a catch wrestler, and neck cranks are allowed, maybe a hallmark of the style.
You just open your guard if you're getting neck cranked... or TAP! We don't see people complaining about arm bars because... they tap to them. I don't know why the logic suddenly changes to a correctly applied neck crank.
I do bjj too. And in order to avoid all possible cusses of injury I always start from the ground. Always tap early, and always flow give the position instead of using force against it, because I kticed all these guys would rather injur someone else than to tap to a lower belt.
Gracie saw that kick up in the air. That kind of force is beyond fatal.
My favorite boxing coach once said “Money doesn’t mean shit if you’re not healthy enough to enjoy it”
Amen
Hell yeah its fair. His life is totally changed for the worse by this. Pay that man.
He is a millionaire rock climber now who travels to counrties he likes and spents all his free time rock climbing while also being sponsored.....actually his life is pretty great nowadays
@@lordad I thought he was permanently paralyzed!?
@@mdixon26288he is this guy is trolling you
@@willcochrane6949 paralyzed to peaks look it up
@@ligmapolzky1143 after more research you’re right he is no longer fully paralyzed and did a HIKE up a mountain(easy hike not some challenging sportsman hike). So we were both wrong. He is not some great rock climber now and definitely still has limited mobility, but also much more fortunate than the majority in recovery from this injury. Doesn’t excuse the careless nature of the instructor though, and no matter how much mobility you regain, no one “fully” recovers from getting their C-spine crushed. He’ll live with the consequences of this incident for the rest of his life.
I think a lot of people forget that the legal system, the court system, and the tourt system isn't about "Doing to someone what they deserve", like it is so commonly represented in media.
A lawsuit is about damages. It isn't about punishing the jiujitsu gym. It is about the costs in terms of healthcare, loss of function, loss of freedom, caretaking, and pain/suffering associated with the injury.
The way he asks if the verdict is fair is almost frightening. Does he not ?
i feel u
cause insurance company has to pay it and not the guy who broke his back actually fucked.
He’s a youtuber. He’s getting people to comment by asking the viewer a question. Comments boost the algorithm and gets him views.
@@benjames8211 Thats what insurance is for though
Every jiu jitsu gym I've been into has you sign a waiver. Did they not have waivers?
Those waivers mean absolutely nothing.
I'm not a lawyer but i own a racetrack - waivers waive negligence - but nothing waives "gross negligence" .
Considering any gym worth anything will make you sign a waiver, I'm suprised they even had a case.
There was some technicality his lawyer got them on with the waiver. Something worded improperly that made the court throw it out entirely.
@@flamezombie1 Waivers don't apply to negligence.
@@TripleTapHK There also wasn't any negligence, other than Rener Gracie letting blue belts spar with other blue belts as their first time sparring after only having watched videos online lmao.
Waivers are the reason why, should anything happen to any of my family, my Insurance is a 30mag and the whole Club can leave behind fatherless children!
I can’t say if it’s low or high. What I can say is if I needed to choose between $46 million or fully functional arms and legs I’d choose the the arms and legs working.
I went to Thailand to train in muy thai. Got my shin broken and sued them for kicking me. They then broke my other shin.
Yes. It’s fair. And the black belt should’ve saddled with a felony. His choices on that day should impact the choices he makes the rest of his life.
No. The guy is walking again even rock climbing. It's a freak accident and you know you're going into. Combat sport.
Yes it’s fair . You are there to train and learn then train some more . A second degree Brazilian black belt has probably done that move thousands of times since he was a child . The white belt was just starting out didn’t realize he was on the mat with a guy who most likely did cage fighting. He was in a world of trouble.
Normally where I'm from the gyms make you sign contacts before you're even allowed on the mat, and it says in the contract that they cant be held liable for any injuries you might face.
I would guess that the money was awarded due to negligence. Matching up someone who’s inexperienced against a second degree black belt would be like making a high school football team face Alabama. Bare minimum of 4-5 years difference of experience between the two. Unless everyone in that gym is a black belt, you can’t tell me there wasn’t anyone else they could’ve matched the white belt against.
A second degree black belt has responsibility to not be too aggressive rolling with a white belt for Christ sake
as a long time mixed martial artist and (blue belt in bjj) i agree with you. The fault is with the teacher. this should not have happened.
Im noticing a trend in the comments. It seems the black belts feel they should be allowed to roll this hard and if the white belt breaks the "Too bad, so sad. Stiff shit to him!" .. but the lower up and coming belts feel its wrong, evidently out of concern for their own health. Of course there's the fringeliers, the blue belts trying to act all hard and in the voice of Dolphins Lindgren "If he dies, he dies!"
@@mysty0no one has compassion anymore. All i know is if it happened to ANY of these people, their opinions on the matter would be completely different
@@adrianolini1889 yea exactly, theyre all staunch wannbe's until the real deal comes along and puts the heavy down on them and then suddenly their bleeding heart humanists.
Best Club Sign I ever Saw: If you Injure your sparring partner you can come back when he does!
Absolutely fair. You couldn't pay me to be a quadriplegic or paralyzed for any duration of time. The cost of medical bills and medical care will shrink that number greatly. The fact that this should've never happened coupled with Renner being the expert witness, sealed that man's fate. My empathy and prayers go out to the victim; you decide to start training an art that's intended to keep you safe and healthy, only to be given the opposite. You can't put a price on healthy and happy.
Just because the man would’ve chosen to be healthy over 46 million doesn’t make it fair, that’s little kid logic. Why don’t the give him 50 billion instead since he would choose health instead? So one dude makes a mistake and now the verdict is 46 Million? All while they are in a combat sport and the dude who got hurt has been doing it for 2 years already
@@jonnyd9351 I think you forgot about the mentioned medical costs bud. Not only will he rely on professionals for the rest of his life, he will also rely on his family which will take time out of any adults career. That settlement isn't just " Make Boo-Boo go away money" its to insure they can still survive with all the added cost and loss that they faced.
The only one thinking like a child is you because you see nothing but the bull you make up in your head and project it on others.
@@Cumin69 The dude who commented’s argument is a childish argument. 1. The dude is walking again and actually hikes now. 2. 46 million is overblown by any metric you try to use. It would take the average FAMILY in the US 1000 years to make that much. I live in Mexico, he would be one of the top few hundred people in the entire country of over 100 million!
I recently went through a settlement for a wreck and people think you can sue and get all this money… but you only get what the amount the person is paying for… if that persons policy is only $50k and you happen to get the whole amount, after the lawyers cut (1/3 so $16k) and medical bills, you get what’s left if anything.
If you want more than what their policy covers then you have to sue them directly and guess what? If they don’t have money like that then you’re just wasting time and money on court costs (that most lawyers don’t cover in their original 30% cut) for nothing.
Black belts know what they’re doing and what is safe or dangerous. Fuck ‘em he deserves everything coming to him.
It was a freak accident and he's walking again.
Totally fair. That man's life is ruined cause some black belt was trying to bully a white belt.
Fake news,, The guys has numbness of all 4 limbs so yes he is a paraplegic but he's also recovered. And now spends his time snowboarding and mountain biking. Rener SOLD OUT. This guy was the spaz of all spazzes who tried to gramby out of a back take.
I think it really depends on the specifics. If you go do jiu-jitsu, you have to accept that you can get injured. Nobody is forcing you to do it.
If your partner recklessly endangers you in a move that is not within the rules, then that is a different story.
A professional martial artist fighting a guy who is just learning is like a 40-year-old man fighting a 14-year-old boy.
One has vast amounts of experience and you have to know how a person is going to react.
There is a right in a wrong way to take a fall and it is something they teach you in grappling.
Pacifically to avoid things like this.
Also it is supposed to be common practice for you not to introduce high level play until you have shown high level ability to keep yourself in check.
It may look like it's incredibly hard for you to do anything when you're upside down but if the white belt was any two or three belts higher he would have known to tuck his head in.
And clearly the instructor was supposed to have known that because if he did or if he didn't care, then he wouldn't have done such high octane training.
They have to be careful.
Just because it's your choice to put yourself in a monochrome of danger doesn't mean that the other guy can have at it.
@@crimsonfox87fluxule62 If I'm 14 and I "pick" a fight with a 40 year old experienced man, I have to carry the consequences of getting my ass handed to me.
That being said, I did say it depends on the circumstances. Is there foul play involved? Are the unsafe moves used? Is this a friendly cooperative play or did one challenge the other?
All I'm saying is that if you do martial arts and you think you will not get hurt in the process, you are pretty dumb.
At the same time, nobody should be permanently injured in the process either, sufficient precautions should be taken.
@@patmelsen And I perfectly agree, but sometimes you have to draw out a more specific explanation.
These are the kind of favors that people forget to pass around sometimes.
The insurance company has limits for death and dismemberment usually $1 Million, possibly $2 Million. So that’s all they are on the hook for.
Not enough to compensate for what he’s been through
Well he can walk now so..
He's walking again.
The dude agreed to spar someone.
He was not jumped.
He knew the guy was a black belt
I agree and think it was an accident, and people often twist their necks awkwardly in Jiu jitsu. But in regards to the black belt remark, it is generally assumed in jiu jitsu that the higher ranked belts are supposed to exercise control and be more careful since they have that experience. It’s usually the white belts or rookies that hurt people
Wtf do you think people do in JJ gyms?
Imagine, you're finally rich, but can't even move 😢... At least I could set up my family and friends.
Edit: before I killed myself.
Wow dude calm down...you can still live a good life and be paralyzed.
He was hella lucky with rehab doing mountain climbing and shit now apparently
In a car accident that was my fault I got Paralyzed from the nipples down and my fingers don't work, I was surgically given a neck full of metal and cadaver bones and I got charged $600 for the Semi-Trailers bumper!!
I didn't pay, I cried and yelled at the lawyers collections who called me while I was still in the hospital 5 months later and I never heard from them again. Maybe I still owe 7 years later but no way will I pay my hospital charges were 1.3 million.
Fair, he should apply for neurolink now.
Why? He's climbing mountains in Alaska.
The guy should be in jail. He's a black belt and knew what he was doing
Accidents can happen. Why ruin two lives
@@DATSUNC210RB20DETthat’s how justice works.
What crime would you charge him with? Please cite the specific statutes that we violated.
@@afridgetoofar1818 Negligence sounds pretty good.
@@eclipsegfxable Whsts the legal definition of negligence and how can it be established?
some people you just cannot spar with they'll TRY to kill you
They weren’t even sparing he was showing the class a technique the black belt isn’t to blame no one is it was a mistake
@@Nittyking420 That is ridiculous. Nobody is to blame? The guy forced his and the other guy's entire body weight onto a bent neck. That gym deserves to go bankrupt for such an unbelievably poor move being practiced and he should probably go to jail.
I don't get your point? Are you talking about the weight belt or the black? If the black belt was trying to teach a lesson he went to far. if the weight belt was begging such a hard ass and wanted a fight, the Black belt should have kicked him out the gym!
@@jackm2293 If you watch the clip the black belt flipped him over with his entire weight on the guys neck. Def the black belt's fault. He should know better by now.
@@okaynope5197 if that's true then that makes me feel sick. and i think the black belt got off easy not going to jail! some people ...
$ 46 million is a lot, I mean that’s too much from what I know. My dad had a nerve crushed from a commercial bus accident and was put out of work forever and was only paid 125k. Which is some bull
absolutely fair -a black belt has the responsibility to take care of the new guy - I've been in this situation many times and that's your role as the higher skilled TRAINING partner
The Insurance policy has a coverage limit. The carrier is on the hook for the limit depending on the terms. If this incident was deemed intentional and/or if there happens to be some criminal liability, the carrier could go after the owner for what the carrier had to pay. And, the gym owner is personally liable for anything past the limit payment.
There's no amount of money that can replace your health. Hell, a year ago i was hit while i was crossing a designated crosswalk and a car hit me going 40 mph, broke my back in 2 places, TBI, broken ribs, 9 herniated disc,and a lot of other significant injuries. I got a six figured settlement which was okay, but now i have life long injuries and my body won't ever be the same. I would give every single penny back not to have gone through that.
When you get the ego beaten out of you when you’re learning, what do expect you’ll do when it’s your turn to teach?
When shedding your ego is tied directly to continuously losing, what did you expect would happen when you start to continuously win?
It was only a matter of time. I’m just amazed it didn’t happen sooner. Or more often.
I’m glad we all agree that no amount of money in the world is worth being in that state! Health over wealth!
What that translates to is that everyone else that uses that insurance company is about to see a completely unrelated increase in their rate.