My problem is when I relax my grip as much as possible the ball comes off my hand completely dead. A high hook potential ball with an aggressive drill might as well be a spare ball.
I agree the grip should be relaxed on the pushaway and backswing, but on the release, there should probably be pressure used either on the ring or middle finger, depending how you want the ball to react.
It's so hard to determine what's wrong with my thumb fit/pitch. I got some of my stuff drilled at a local pro shop, and some from Ron Hoppe, and man do they feel different. Throwing two balls drilled from different people has a huge impact I feel like. Some I can get an easy release, others I cannot. Thumb seems to get caught or stuck like a suction cup and I end up flying down lane, no matter which way I release the ball. So frustrating.
Not true at all, I'm a professional ball driller and I would advise you get your pro shop operator to check your fingertip pitches and/or span in your ball. Most of the time it actually isn't your thumb thats causing the issue. I have many people who come to me on the daily and ask for a diagnosis of fitting problems. There could be a variety of things that is happening but with your exact issue, some people have spans that are too long but thumb holes that are way too large but do allow you to get out. However the fingertip pitches could be too forward and forces you to want to claw the fingers which locks in your thumb around the webbing. Make sure to lay the fingers down and rest the ball onto your thumb. Do not claw the fingers and also stay behind the ball. If the ball falls off your hand consistently, then you are probably doing it right. Dropping the ball is always better than getting stuck.
Despite my advanced years (and having bowled for years) I got my first ball recently and I've had a hard time, alternating between not letting go and getting my thumb stuck. I'm not clear that its the fit, but the tighter thumb is making me have to relearn bowling. I've gone from a 140 bowling to a 70 bowler. I've learned a lot from watching some of these video, though. For one, a conventional grip ball is mostly a "straight" ball whereas I could hook an alley ball. That means that my hand was on the side, not behind the ball which affects how the thumb comes out. Also, when your thumb grips by bending and squeezing, it makes your thumb wider on the pad part; try to grip with the part of the thumb below the pad. Curling your wrist a bit at release helps. And finally, like golf, if it's hard to remember all these things in the heat of the moment, but when committed to the "feel" where you don't have to think, my hope is that it becomes more natural.
@@jimkangas4176 I forgot I even wrote this comment 5 years ago lol. It's definitely a "feel" and comfort thing on what you can be consistent with for many games (even when your hand sweats) and being able to manipulate the ball with you hand tilts/angles. But yeah, you'll definitely get it down. It'll take some.... Frustrations and you'll be like, "oh shit I just learned something" haha. But yeah don't sweat it you got it. Here I am now, been traveling and competing in regionals and the TAT. Fun stuff but expensive lol. See ya out there 🫡
Hi,We were able to contact Coach Bryan and he said his thumb pitches were ¼ left and ¼ forward.Thanks for continuing with the Bowling Academy.Stephen Padilla
I have never had a ball I didnt have to squeeze . I've had seven different ball drillers or more and I always have to squeeze/ bend the joint so the pad of my thumb makes contact with the ball .
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My grips fit really well, but I have naturally sweaty hands and rosin barely helps. I have to grip the ball a little tight, so I can’t get my thumb out first without throwing it straight into the gutter. I’m lucky to get a 200 rev rate.
Hi. Finger holes should fit the bowler so the grip is secure and comfortable for repeatability and versatility. Everyone’s hand is different and for a proper fit we recommend visiting an IBPSIA (International Bowling Pro Shop and Instructors Association) certified pro shop professional. They can advise you on the proper hole size and fit for your game.Here’s a link to find an IBPSIA technician in your area. www.ibpsia.com/go/find_shop/type/technicianThanks for continuing with the Bowling Academy.
Yeah... I literally have like 5 different size switch grips, just because I couldn't figure out sizing and such. I swell if it gets really hot while playing or if I'm playing for a long period of time. Easier to swap out sizes of the thumb plug. I know this comment is years old, but wanted reply anyways. Lol.
+Parker does stuff that is white tape (used in the front of the thumb hole), black tape (smooth) in the back of the thumb hole does not give you calluses :)
I like a lose thumb whole, for the most part when I get a hand me down ball from someone, that I think I can use, an their thumb is smaller then min, I just sand it down.
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It would be great if you explained where and how to install tape.
My problem is when I relax my grip as much as possible the ball comes off my hand completely dead. A high hook potential ball with an aggressive drill might as well be a spare ball.
I agree the grip should be relaxed on the pushaway and backswing, but on the release, there should probably be pressure used either on the ring or middle finger, depending how you want the ball to react.
This is the only reason I can't hook a ball yet because on the bottom of my swing my wrist breaks and I can never get enough rotation
It's so hard to determine what's wrong with my thumb fit/pitch. I got some of my stuff drilled at a local pro shop, and some from Ron Hoppe, and man do they feel different.
Throwing two balls drilled from different people has a huge impact I feel like. Some I can get an easy release, others I cannot. Thumb seems to get caught or stuck like a suction cup and I end up flying down lane, no matter which way I release the ball.
So frustrating.
Not true at all, I'm a professional ball driller and I would advise you get your pro shop operator to check your fingertip pitches and/or span in your ball. Most of the time it actually isn't your thumb thats causing the issue. I have many people who come to me on the daily and ask for a diagnosis of fitting problems. There could be a variety of things that is happening but with your exact issue, some people have spans that are too long but thumb holes that are way too large but do allow you to get out. However the fingertip pitches could be too forward and forces you to want to claw the fingers which locks in your thumb around the webbing. Make sure to lay the fingers down and rest the ball onto your thumb. Do not claw the fingers and also stay behind the ball. If the ball falls off your hand consistently, then you are probably doing it right. Dropping the ball is always better than getting stuck.
Despite my advanced years (and having bowled for years) I got my first ball recently and I've had a hard time, alternating between not letting go and getting my thumb stuck. I'm not clear that its the fit, but the tighter thumb is making me have to relearn bowling. I've gone from a 140 bowling to a 70 bowler. I've learned a lot from watching some of these video, though. For one, a conventional grip ball is mostly a "straight" ball whereas I could hook an alley ball. That means that my hand was on the side, not behind the ball which affects how the thumb comes out. Also, when your thumb grips by bending and squeezing, it makes your thumb wider on the pad part; try to grip with the part of the thumb below the pad. Curling your wrist a bit at release helps. And finally, like golf, if it's hard to remember all these things in the heat of the moment, but when committed to the "feel" where you don't have to think, my hope is that it becomes more natural.
@@jimkangas4176 I forgot I even wrote this comment 5 years ago lol.
It's definitely a "feel" and comfort thing on what you can be consistent with for many games (even when your hand sweats) and being able to manipulate the ball with you hand tilts/angles. But yeah, you'll definitely get it down. It'll take some.... Frustrations and you'll be like, "oh shit I just learned something" haha.
But yeah don't sweat it you got it.
Here I am now, been traveling and competing in regionals and the TAT. Fun stuff but expensive lol. See ya out there 🫡
hi brian ilike the way you come out the ball i was wondering if you can tell me what thumb pitch you use thanks
Hi,We were able to contact Coach Bryan and he said his thumb pitches were ¼ left and ¼ forward.Thanks for continuing with the Bowling Academy.Stephen Padilla
I have never had a ball I didnt have to squeeze . I've had seven different ball drillers or more and I always have to squeeze/ bend the joint so the pad of my thumb makes contact with the ball .
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My grips fit really well, but I have naturally sweaty hands and rosin barely helps. I have to grip the ball a little tight, so I can’t get my thumb out first without throwing it straight into the gutter. I’m lucky to get a 200 rev rate.
Hit it harder
how about the top weight of the ball. which is better bigger or smaller top weight. ( 1 -2 oz ) or 3 -4 oz ) .
Tape, tape, tape. Use it. I think I have about 8 pieces in my thumb hole. I also wear it on my thumb and fingers. It makes a world of difference.
may I know what about fingers hole? should it be tighter? mine seems too big which I need to use lots of strength
Hi. Finger holes should fit the bowler so the grip is secure and comfortable for repeatability and versatility. Everyone’s hand is different and for a proper fit we recommend visiting an IBPSIA (International Bowling Pro Shop and Instructors Association) certified pro shop professional. They can advise you on the proper hole size and fit for your game.Here’s a link to find an IBPSIA technician in your area. www.ibpsia.com/go/find_shop/type/technicianThanks for continuing with the Bowling Academy.
GeneralApex i use fingertip rubbet things so when i bowl it makes a plop sound
can't stand white tape, completely changes the feel of the ball. black tape at the back is a last resort for me, usually just use rosin
but what if our thumb becomes bigger after 4-5 games
take a piece of tape out.
You're thumb gets smaller
Some hardly change. If you're one of those that experience a big change in thumb size when bowling then thumb inserts are the way to go.
Switch grips
Yeah... I literally have like 5 different size switch grips, just because I couldn't figure out sizing and such. I swell if it gets really hot while playing or if I'm playing for a long period of time. Easier to swap out sizes of the thumb plug. I know this comment is years old, but wanted reply anyways. Lol.
But the bowler tape is rough and causes me to get more calises
+Parker does stuff that is white tape (used in the front of the thumb hole), black tape (smooth) in the back of the thumb hole does not give you calluses :)
My pro shop guy always told me, the amount of pressure to hold your ball should be no more than what you use to pick up a pencil.
I like a lose thumb whole, for the most part when I get a hand me down ball from someone, that I think I can use, an their thumb is smaller then min, I just sand it down.
+Peter brown thx😀
A "relaxed" grip sounds counterintuitive... maybe even contradictory...
You're still gripping the ball, just not with the same force. You shouldn't feel like the ball will fall out of your hand if you relax.
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Tape used for wrist support and also used to protect the woman's fingertips not to mention to help prevent breaking a nail.
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