Top 3 Ways to Place (Feel & Sing) Grit, Distortion, Gutturals, Screaming (Cues From Jonathan Davis)
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- Опубликовано: 30 сен 2024
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Does using grit still make your cough? Does distortion still cause a bit of pain or choking?
You might be one of the many singers out there who gets the feeling of singing with distortion one day, but then loses it the next. As your voice wakes up in different moods, certain sensations are harder to get back into your singing. IT IS NORMAL. Every singer has to intentionally learn new ways of re claiming and re discovering things about their voice... Especially with stuff like screaming, gutterals, distortion, grit...
In this video, I discuss 3 HUGE ways to coax the correct sensations into your voice for completely pain free, controlled and awesome sounding aggressive vocals. All flavors discussed are included! (And we take a few cues from Korn's Jonathan Davis to help us get there!)
I actually took his course. First his free course and after that i paid for the long one (the one including aggressive singing..). Not only has this helped me A LOT, but after a few weeks of the 12 week program I got an email saying I should book my free 1 hour session with Chris.
I had no idea that was included (I feel you should promote that more Chris!). But that 1 hour session helped me beyond any expectations. He could see, even with my horrible country house connection that I was tensing my neck, which I hadn’t thought about. So now I can actually sing with grit (in chest working on adding it to my mix) and can hit D5 and even E5 on a good day, and I am 9 weeks in.
So thank Chris and I highly recommend his course..
(Still hoping for a Sir Paul vid.. :D )
Thanks so much for this... So Glad these methods have helped!!
@@chrisliepe oh oops I didn’t realise there was a 1 hour session included i’ve never used it, is that something you have to pay extra for or is it standard??
Wut? Wow... 😁
@@trotty-4257 It's included in the "Pro" package during open enrollment only. And is available as an extra purchase for those who have completed the first half of Discover Your Voice :)
Here we go again with the "i can reach E5 or D5 or whatever note ..."
now playing; Korn, Fork in the bleach
Lyrics:
dit dit dit dit ding dong dit dit dit dit ding dong.
fork in the bleach LMAO
to be honest the tune of the ding dong sounded kinda like the belle delphine song.
Chili’s are keng dong bonga zonga california
HUMDINGA WENT TO THE PARK
jonathan davis is a genius. he preserved his voice (and got better!) over the course over 25+ years and not only knows what he's doing technique-wise but also always puts 100% of genuine, authentic emotion into his vocals. his way of screaming sounds so intense but sounds very "healthy" ^^
YES
He only had to cancel a concert 2 times in 25 years altogether because of vocal issues. That says a lot imo
He does growls better than screams imo but great in any way
On the first three albums his belting and false cord screaming range capped at the F# and G. Then you listen to the song coming undone many albums later and he's belting A4s. It's crazy because I'm more mid range just like him, and his vocals and vocal transformation taught me that I don't always have to belt super high notes to make the song sound good, and that I have the ability to get better later. I'm really watching this video rn to get a hang of my distortion and on my screams I've finally gotten rid of the "cookie monster" screams, but I can't move my growls higher they're stuck at the A2-C3 area, and definitely sounds like I'm voice acting for the cookie monster.
Can you do a lesson on the disturbed “Oh Wah ah-ah-ah”
GREAT idea!
Chris, my dude, you NEED to release the d-d-d-d-ding dong song on spotify.
There's no chance of forgetting the lyrics. 😂
hahahahahahaha
@@chrisliepe you know im right, let's go!
7:49 when a vocal excersise is so silly that even Chris starts laughing
haha RIGHT!
I started mimicking Jonathan Davis a couple years ago and it has really opened up a whole different tone in my voice
Ya, he's full of all sorts of inspiration and otherwise awesomeness!
@@chrisliepe he is still such an underrated singer, especially in the metal community :( fuck elitists
And thank you for the video. I'm a girl but sure I'll be able to draw some useful stuff from it as well
Absolutely amazing! It’s insane how everything came together at the end, but no kidding haha, the approach to learning this is hilarious to say the least. 😆
I've started liking your stuff even before watching 🤣
That's good news!
Bro, Same here
Jonathan Davis is my favorite singer of all time! 🤘
Your videos, oh man. I have been singing for my whole life and it has always been quite natural for me to sing. But when i found out heavy metal I have strived to sing like those guys. I have built my range in 5 years so now i can hit those high notes but I never kinda understood how to add grit. From your other videos I learned full on fry scream and false chord screaming but basic distortion has been so hard even tho I have understood the concept of using your lower abdominal muscles. This video unlocked my inner James Hetfield. I'm so stoked that I finally got it and now I can start to harness it. Thank you so much Chris, best vocal coach, period.
Man's biceps are getting bigger and bigger!
Camera adds 10 lbs :)
That p90x
how else use this corona lockdown shitshow that to work on oneself? singing or buffin up, no excuses! :)
Anybody know a good vet??? Cuz Those Pythons are sick
That the vocal technique ,he's lifting heavy imaginary shit all the time 🤣
I love how much fun he has with doing these silly exercises. That is true passion ❤️
:)
@@chrisliepe Hey you! We were just 1-2 steps away from getting into Beat Boxing there! And I thoroughly encourage that! Would be amazing. Think of all the fantastic and strange / different sounds you could potentially tap into, and then end up incorporating back and mixing into a more traditional vocal performance.
Great video this helped me a lot, can you also do a how to sing like Jonathan Davis?
YES... coming :)
Haha this fundamentally was already. “Humdinga’ went to the park” was basically the scat in “freak on a leash” technique-wise. For his non-gutturals... that “oh noooo” part covered a good amount of jds singing voice. Add vocal fry in parts, and throw in some “cookie monster” technique on certain yells (not much, just a little). But most of JDs “singing” has been the tense, air holding, and some call it the “constipated” vocal technique. So pretend you are constipated... and the sound you make with your voice should be a tense, low air, frustrated sound.
Now... he has shown this before... and he will definitely show you how to do this safely without hurting your voice. So before you try too much, wait for his video.
this is just AMAZING！after learning through Chris's scream videos，i can finaly sing with grit, distortortion, even scream loud! also with the advice such as "sing quiet then loud" helped me so much that now I can feel and modulate the type of distortion i want into my singing freely.
Thank you so much!
when i practice vocals i always check around the house if noone´s around,
now i´ll check twice.
It's official: Chris reads my mind. I've been trying to learn how to do gutturals for almost a month now, and I thought "If I could find a video that explained it the way Chris Liepe does I'd be good" and then...
Thank you so much. I won't try do do it right now because I have a throat infection (don't worry, I didn't hurt myself trying to do harsh vocals) but I will watch the video religiously.
NICE
Love that my roommates are currently hearing me going "d-d-d-d-ding dong" in the most rhythmic, demonic voice, probably questioning letting me move in here
I’m a female vocalist, thank you for explaining this technique in a way that it’s made very easy to learn without hurting the voice. I’m going to experiment with the screaming technique, curious about the new sounds I’ll be able to add to my vocal repertoire 🎉
That new Disturbed song is fire.
The throat clearing comparison is the most helpful tip
I've heard! Thank you!
You're so welcome!
Oh WOW--- I just did the two different throat clearing methods and I totally understand now what you mean about below the voice box and above it. I finally understand what that means now! I felt the difference between them on the very first try. It was a total a-ha moment.. (not a-ha like the 80s, but a-ha like eureka... lol) Chris, you are a genius! Thank you so much.
YES YES YES
That ding dong stuff really channelling scooby doo.
That nasally "oh no" really channelling shaggy 😂
Even though this is my first try practicing this technique, I definitely hear it. I wanna thank you for teaching us these ques from Stars. It really does inspire all of us!
whats really great about the ding dong song, is that it really could be a korn song hahaha!
that's actually the first way I approached screaming when younger, but I had no idea what I was doing or what was correct or not so I got away from that.
It's fantastic to see that my basic intuition was correct and it being channeled in the correct direction now
Me: Okay imma go learn sing
My fam 10min later: what's with the cough
Edit: Actually this reminds me of Mr. Bungle lol
I can’t decide about the backing track seems like a dream theater song. But anyway these ones are absolutely ridiculous it’s crazy. And the funny thing is how well it works. Especially makes his false chord Death metal growlers way easier to reproduce the way that he does them. And help so they don’t feel bad too. So when you’re not cracking up with laughter these are great. Humdinger humdinger went to the DoOoooooo humdinger eheheheh GRRRRR.
When your voice cracks it reminds me of scooby doo. Hahahahahaha so fun.
When Corey Taylor gets possessed by the spirit of Goofy and he tries the regain control of his body with the ancient ding dong ritual.
Hahaha. Yes!!!
Them: How did you get that aggresive voice?!
Me:Dididingdong!
Thanks coach 👌
I want that Candace on wild parsnips voice lol
8:27 Procced to Sing Inside The Fire
The ding dong clear your throat song is clearly a Disturbed song idk on what hidden album tho hahahaha
Idk, when I do the polite throat clearing it hurts and makes me cough really badly. I feel it in the upper part of my throat, but its really uncomfortable.
If it really is upper and "polite" it won't hurt or make you cough. If it is not high enough, it'll do exactly as you describe!
This is a video I was really excited about questioning myself when would it be released, Chris!
Glad it brought some good insights for you as well! :D
Ps: Even happier now that I read a comment where you confirm a "how to sing like" edition too!
Glad you enjoyed it!
CHRIS! Will you PLEASE do a trap metal vocal lesson? Artists like Scarlxrd for example? There’s not many videos covering this but I know 100000s want to be educated how to safely perform trap metal vocals.
I've been trying for years to develop "safe" grit.
I've recently found it but seriously dude this will really enhance it
YESSS
I love Jonathan Davis style
As soon as I heard "di di di di dinggg donggg" in the intro I knew I was in for a Chris Liepe Treat. You're the best, Chris!
Hey Chris! New viewer here, and i was wondering why my head feels so pressurized while singing with compression. It feels like i have a really bad sinus infection. It’s so frustrating because i just now am learning how to scream without hurting myself and I’ve hit a new obstacle. I’m somehow cutting circulation off to my head and it hurts after a while.
Can you be super nasal? Like sing all through your nose? How does that change the pressure?
@@chrisliepe you know, that is GREATLY reducing the pressure i feel. Thanks!
It would make my day if you teach us to scat at the beginning of "twist"
I love your method of being carefree and goofy to find and explore your voice.
I never seen you talk about the role of arytenoid cartilage in the scream, specially in low heavy metal growls. You can add grit with false cords, arytenoid cartilage and the combination of both. There are not a lot of scientific research on the topic, but there is a guy Brandon Kennedy how does some kind of research. Check it out, maybe it would be helpful :)
ruclips.net/video/UXA6fYO36RM/видео.html
Ya, I refer to the arytenoids indirectly when I say "false cord area" in some of my videos. They are slightly different places in the tract technically, but it helps me visually and experience-wise to think about it that way :) GREAT video by the way!
im watching more and more of your videos and am gonna do your course sometime soon. im getting better at singing higher notes and feel more comfortable belting and adding dirtyness to my voice. ive noticed that after singing roughly 10 minutes or so of straight belting/screaming, my throat gets sore (the physical muscles around it, not like when you have a cold). is this normal considering im new? i really try to push my voice to the top of my range. im sure that has something to do with it. just making sure.
Ya, it's normal... but shouldn't happen once you learn to manage your airflow better! I'll help you with that :)
that's very useful for me. I think, that my screams are quite decent but I have still trouble with gritty singing.
This video should have been called ”Ding Dong” 🤣🤣 damn singing is so much fun cause you can liturally take any wierd sounds and turn them into a legit singing techniq
haha... so true!
the 7:56 falsettos kinda sound like jimmy urine lol
Has anyone seen Humdinger? Where's he gone?
TO THE PAAAAOOOORRRRRQQQQ
my my ding dong my ding dong ding ding ding ding ding ding dong🤘🏻
All this tells me is we need to petition to have Korn cover "Humdinger Went To The Park"
haha... STARTED
The polite way ... Sounds a little like Rick Sanchez 🤷♂️
Dude great insights to form! I’m trying to learn how to use my false chords and this explained quite a few questions I have
OMG CHRIS I FINALLY WAS ABLE TO DO A HEAD VOICE SCREAM! I have been able to do a m1 register scream, but I would choke at my break. With the forward placement of the groan, and the Chris Cornell cat voice I was able to get higher, and sing a line from Gojira or Devin Townsend.
YES YES YES!! Did you enter the "Roast a Note" game??? I'd love to hear it!!
@@chrisliepe Well now I am!
i just made a huge leap in my scream//dynamic/general vocal freedom capabilities doing these exercises. thank you chris
🎶🎶"clear ya throat eheheh"🎶🎶"polite eheheh"🎶🎶
d d d d ding dong is my favorite track of the year
Yay! Jonathan Davis!
not the "sing like" video, but that one's coming :)
@@chrisliepe I got so excited for it..... Man....lol jk.
This is still a great video. I'm always looking for more ways to use distortion. These exercises are fun.
7:46 when did scooby doo learn to sing ruhroh
Humdinger Liepe strikes again!
please release di di di ding dong on youtube
Totally should make it a unique premiere haha
i can’t practice without laughing
5:50 this one of the most fun head-bangs I had lol
And the part from 5:50-5:55 is also the vocal "beginning" of "Inside the Fire" by Disturbed ;)
haha... nice
it's ok if I fall in love whit you?
My big question always when it comes to distortion is those low growls. How can you use this above the chords part to produce grit and use it for low growls? Keep it up!!
Right, it doesn't seem like it'd be "above" still, but it is a function of the "polite clearing of the throat" And then the low tone is created by the alteration of the vocal tract above that point of contact.
Chris Liepe - The dingdong song
WHO TF ADDED SALT ON MY LASAGNA??
That was awesome Man!!!!!!!!!! This style of guturals will lead you to traditional Death and Black metal vocalist... The grits, styles, variety of distortions.... Maaan it's a whole Universe!! Great Stuff!!!
YESSSS
Like Dio , the Power , is from open throat technique supported by huge diaphragme compression .
I use that .
But warming up people say like " there s no projection " , not yet
As a matured i developped more thick power texture but a lot of people mistake , more modern vocalist of hardcore stuff etc... as well , that the distortion is not due to volume at all .
When you go full with a good support. The people think we re killing ourselves .
But not at all , especially with experience you get more gravel in a natural way .
Distortion volume like you re screaming at your Kids for make their bedroom all the time its the better way to let go your vocal chords and damage it .
I REALLY like this one - the way you're able to describe placement of these techniques has improved my screaming/distortion/gravelly tones substantially, and this one added a couple more pieces to that puzzle as well.
I've been thinking about other vocalists that would make for good breakdown material, and I have a list(!) lol - but I think there's a LOT to be learned from *Chad Gray* particularly in his Mudvayne days, I've always admired what he can do with his voice immensely. And he has some of the nicest transitions from clean to distortion/screaming.
"Nothing to Gein" - probably still his most impressive vocal performance(IMO), a lot of nuance starting right from the beginning with the breathy clean intro that slides into some grit, straight into some squeaky clean harmonies, then straight to Chad's signature growls.
"World So Cold" - the breakdown from 3:00 to 3:45(album length, not radio edit) is really interesting as Chad shifts between different growls & distortion techniques throughout.
"Death Blooms" - the vocals at 3:00 at the transition into the bridge is really interesting here too, as Chad starts with a really breathy almost whisper, playing around with pitch before going full send into his growls, a LOT of color in this part(in the whole song really, a LOT of interesting vocals here)
...just a few examples of Chad Gray's technical vocals, but I'm in for an analysis of ANY of his vocals, if you're interested in covering his work.
Anyway, thanks for the incredible work as usual Chris, can't wait for more!
Ya Chad Gray would be great!
I enjoyed this tutorial immensely. 😀 I really want to learn how to do aggressive vocals correctly. I have ruined my voice before doing it the wrong way and back then I was watching your voice recovery video after I ruined my vocal folds. I love this style of music but screaming vocals don't come naturally to me. I can sing cleanly just fine but I'm still trying to master this sort of thing.
You can do it!
Think of it like a really aggressive burp
YES!!!
The di-di-di-di-ding dong reminds me of Disturbed 🤘
You always come up with the most unique approaches! I would love if you could break down the vocals in the song Dear Diary, by Bring Me The Horizon and use your unique perspective to help make sense of it :)
Great suggestion!
Teach me pleaseee!!! I need it very urgently
I'd love to! You might be ready for this: www.mymusicalvoice.com/p/the-aggressive-vocalist-s-master-plan-of-attack
Hi Chris, I really appreciate your videos, i have learned a huge amount from them.... one thing i'm particularly struggling with is the range in the middle of my voice middle C to G, i find placement and applying compression grit or any tone control very difficult, i dont know if this a commen issue for singers, but would appreciate any response, Thanks
It's VERY common! Have you checked out my video on "Chesty Middle Mix"? That one should help!
Korn - ding ding dong song
Hi Chris, love your videos - all super helpful experiment exercises. A question: When you go low, gutteral in your sound are you using the low/drying throat clearing style to get those low death metal singer sounds? Or do you keep it high in the grit feeling all the time?
No, it's higher than the clearing your throat sensation. If it goes that low it'll tickle too much or make you cough if you do it for even a shorter time.
7:46 Chris Shreds
4:45 Porky ? o.O
Awesome content, Chris. I just have one question. Can false chords show signs of fatigue after a while, even when you use them properly?
Totally! It's all about vocal budgeting and learning how to feel your voice. Just like any muscle or part of your body... it gets tired when used and needs rest.
Im so going to take the courses as soon as I can, I’m an addict to this channel and all its content! Greetings bro ure awesome!!!
Awesome! Thank you!
great tips as always. I'll have to add these new methods to my library. Do you think you would do a Billie Corgan analysis in the future?
Great idea!
Amazing 👍💯
Hahahahahaha this is so fun. 😂😂😂
You are such a great teacher, your ways to learn are creative and super understandable.
i don't know if it's just me but the ding dong exercise kind of sounded like Dave Mustaine
I can hear that :)
Imagine ringing someone’s doorbell and that mf goes “d-d-d-d-ding dong 😈”
It's hilarious to me that the nasally bit at the end kinda makes Chris sound like the dude from Rage Against the Machine
haha... I can hear that :)
This is an awesome compromise before the long-awaited how to sing like Jonathan Davis video Sensei Chris!
RIGHT :) ...I had to do some homework. this video is my homework shared with you!
when i clear my throat in the aggressive way it hurts and i dont know how to fix that any help would be much appreciated :D
Make sure the sensation is HIGH in the throat and it won't hurt! I've done lots of videos on this... Any of my videos on compression will help. Also, join my free voice course to make sure your support is dialed in. It won't work at all if you're not supporting correctly :)
Oh thank you so much I will try to join the free voice course and is it alright for someone under 18 to join
@@zen-hx2hn Yes of course! I have lots of teenagers enrolled in all my courses!
@@chrisliepe oh then i will definitely join!
Does anyone know what technique the lead singer (Chris motionless) uses in the chorus of his song “catharsis” by motionless in white
I don't cover it specifically but have you seen my video yet on Chris Motionless?
@@chrisliepe I didn’t know you did one lol
That was a funny but effective tutorial 🤣 please make a tutorial on how to sing the aggressive screaming part of down with the sickness by disturbed 🙏
nice
vocal cores
Chris i want to ask you something. I am a high baritone and i can hit a4 in chest voice. But this is only for large vowels like a,o etc. For example, i cant hit high notes with e vowel. I want to BEEE!!! No i cant do that. My voice cracks when i sing BEEE! I can sing that note in mix voice but it doesnt sound good for particular songs. How can i fix that?
Try this: ruclips.net/video/0Gv8XLv2ccU/видео.html
I was getting some good screams but now it’s spring time and I’m all congested
Fabulous
Really nice video awesome as always. You should react to kyo from dir in grey and not only analyze metal bands why don’t you try Luis Miguel he has a really powerful voice
Great suggestion!
You are easily one of my biggest inspirations, Chris.
:)
So good!
I am currently discovering my voice with your course! GENIUS!
I am beginner singer and Love your Channel!! I am so glad that I found you ! Also start one of your free course
So glad! Enjoy the free course and let me know how it goes for you!