I ordered Fenix 7s solar mostly because I was worried about the maps features discussed in this video. The watch was so heavy, bulky and uncomfortable that I sent it back and got a forerunner 955 and I like it so much more. The inability to double-tap isn't a big deal. Another thing I didn't like about the Fenix 7 (besides the price) was the screen: it's very dim even on the brightest setting because of the sapphire glass. I spent $900 on a watch and I hated wearing it. I'm so happy I went with the cheaper, in my opinion, better watch. Just my thoughts.
I also am sending my 7x back today. Price to features ratio it's rediculous. Not to mention it's not super comfortable to wear. I think this watch should be $700 a most. Not $950. Save yourself the money and get the 6x if you want a fenix. I promise you wont use the touch screen as much as you thought you would. But now that i've found the 955 i'll probably pick up this one. Simply because Garmin will likely support it longer than the fenix 6 series.
I appreciate the honesty. I ordered a Fenix 6 for the sale, but I had zero knowledge of any Garmin watches until I watched one review and now I get tons of recommended. How's your touch screen? I'm coming from apple watch
Thank you for this super useful and well put together video! :D I actually took notes while watching this video and maybe those are helpful to anybody else, so I'll post them here: forerunner 955: - sleek,lighter design (plastic) - 53g - 32gb storage - Gorilla Glass Dx - 5atm waterproof - Quickfit wrist strap compatible - brighter, contrasty Display - training readiness, hrv status, race calendar update on Fenix planned - cant scroll in grapahs, no double tap to zoom, no touch hold for destination on map - only dimming in sleep mode - no power modes - 15days batterylife, 42h gps Fenix 7 - rugged, heavier design - 79g - 16gb storage - “powerglass” - 10atm waterproof - Quickfit wrist strap included - brightnessensor - no multiband gps (only 7x and higher) - 18 days batterylife, 57h gps For anyone thinking, he could now skip the video, I recommend to still watch the video, because the nuances explained in the video are important and cant be conveyed via text.
Keep in mind that the water resistant “depth” is really referring to the pressure it would take to push water into the watch. This gets to be important for when you are jumping into a pool, crashing a wake board/water ski or getting smashed by a wave at the beach. The depth is just a reference to something easy for most people to understand. That being said, the increase in water resistance impacts more than just divers.
I had the 945 for many years. I brought it al around the world with me and done everything you can imagine in terms of testing the water resitance. Even jumped into rivers from 15-20 meters. Never had the slightest problem. Now im rocking the 955.
Has anyone tried scuba diving eith s Fenix 7? I know it’s not intended for it and doesn’t have the certification either, but I wonder if it would support diving at 20-30m (~60-90 ft or 2-3 ATM in other words)
@@proyectozonda The Fenix 7 is certified to 10 ATM so if you are diving at 20-30 meters, which is 2-3 ATM, then you are not even near the maximum certification of the watch. That said the Fenix 7 is not a dive watch so I am not sure why you would want to wear it for diving except to tell the time?
@@_J.F_ I was thinking on using it just for timing the whole diving and the time at max depth… and was hoping I would also benefit from the barometer but found in a forum that Garmin has restricted it to show depth greater than 3m☹️so I think it still can be an option at least to time track🤷♂️
@@proyectozonda Using the Fenix 7 as a depth gage for diving down to 30 meters would be extremely dangerous as the watch barometer is designed for use above water and a depth gauge is designed for use under water. When diving to 30 meters you need to calculate decompression stops accurately and to do that you need an accurate and calibrated depth gauge.
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Actually, you can scroll on the 955. It is a slight strange but in order to scroll you have to long press, then an arrow on the side appears allowing one to scroll side to side.
One big win of the Multi all super band GPS is when running a specific pace, like for a race or training session. With normal GPS or GPS+Glonass the gauge is all over the place and very hectic. Even when you run the same pace, the watch says you are to slow or to fast. Using the multi band GPS, this changes totally and the gauche is very stable at the pace. You can see the difference also on every run at the pace graph. For me a big winner and training makes now much more fun.
I went from 945 to 955 solar and it is a BIG difference... both in features and the speed and responsiveness of the watch. Also, the accuracy and battery life improved.
Actually an easy solution for me. The armor-piercing security of the Fenix 7 is redundant. Anyway, in two or three years there will be a new model that you want to buy. Wearing 955 on the hand, we get a more comfortable watch. Fenix 7 is worth taking only for those who like big iron "tactical" watches or just a military man, then yes. For sports and the city, of course, 955.
Great comparison Dave! I just wish the 955 would do a quick fit strap. I've also noticed some very weird differences like the navigation one you mentioned here. WTF? I don't under stand why on earth Garmin would have a different code base for these functions. Wouldn't they have the same base code and then branches for all the different watches types? If they want to pull in maps / navigation, pull and merge that code then run testing. It seems like there'd more work to do these things differently. One day I'll interview a Garmin engineer . . . some day I'll get answers 🤦♂
Thanks Matt! I have a quick fit strap on mine but it didn't come with it. I think the firmware differences are a result of the different silo's/departments at Garmin. I feel like the 955 is such a unique forerunner that it belongs in the "outdoor" segment and not really in the Running/Tri segment... But who am I to judge? Just some shmuck on RUclips!
@@ChaseTheSummit - 100% agree but those different departments have to share the basic operating system code at a minimum. They’re all so similar across departments. Don’t be weird Garmin. That 955 navigation should be fixed to be like the Fenix IMHO. But what do I know, I’m just some dumb guy in the comments section of RUclips videos. 😆
Very helpful because I was originally looking at Fenix 7 for the self contained mapping and I am glad to see that the FR is essentially the same (I can live without the extra gesture feature). Thanks for that descriptive info which you can't get from the advertising materials. A well built polymer watch (glass fiber keeps it dimensionally stable) is a good thing-- light weight and scratches don't even show (had a carbon fiber non-smart watch and really liked it)
Best comparison vid. Didn't know about the nav navigation diffs. Unfortunately, they're all super expensive, so I'll stick with my fenix 5 for as long as possible!
The fenix 7x sapphire solar watch has a major drawback, the screen in the menu as well as the messages that arrive when the phone is connected to the watch are set to black background and pale blue text (due to the poor finish of the sapphire glass, there is no white color, but pale blue color) and that text is hard to read. There is no option like on older models of garmin watches to change the background to be white or pale gray and the text to be black, which would be more legible. (Inverter color or display color setting). As soon as you sweat a little around your eyes during activities, you can't see clearly, or if you have a smaller (+ eye diopter) for reading, which most people over 40 have the same problem, you strain to read what is written on the screen. Otherwise, the watch is excellently made, but this problem with the screen and the lack of an option to set the background to be white or gray and the text to be black, which is more pleasant and legible for the eye, makes the garmin fenix 7x sapphire solar watch unusable for many people and if not documents in some software update the watch is a complete and utter failure. I found a lot of the same comments in several forums which says that the problem is not innocuous.
Great comparrision! I had the 945 for many years brought it all around the world, rock climbing, hiking, swiming, jumping 20 m knto rivers. Never had an issue with durability. Now i upgraded to 955 and loving it. I prefer tye forerunner line because of the lower weight. You barely notice it.
as always, fantastic review. some comments and experiences to share: - i speculate that the backlight is inferior on the 7X is due to the sapphire lens with its lower transmission of light. - while sapphire is nice, i have had great luck adding a tempered glass protector to all my Forerunners including my 955 Solar - i too am puzzled by the lack of so many touch based features on the 955 solar, most notably the maps, and also wish i had things like the advanced power management modes and more detailed glances/widgets. with the 955 Solar, the solar widget is really lobotomized...it doesn't tell the user of any cumulative solar insolation for the day like it does on the Fenix 7 all that being said, the 955 is still the right watch for me. i had been lusting for the Fenix 7/Epix2 since it was released, but i didn't want the added weight for a 24/7 watch. i was happily surprised by the price point the 955 and 955 Solar came in at. i originally bough the Solar model because the small potential battery endurance, but mostly because i felt the solar ring would offset the broad black bezel. after having the watch for a month, i can say the Solar has the potential to make a real world difference if you spend significant time outside (or driving) as i found out while on vacation. and while the solar ring was distracting to me initially (due to its reflective nature), in the end, it met my initial goal of minimizing the look of the bezel. fingers crossed that some of these Fenix 7 features will make their way to the FR955 (at least the map gestures), but not holding my breathe...
I would say one of the benefits of Fenix series is that they receive Ll the software upgrdes. I don't like the weight and bulkiness of the medium Fenix either.
@@rburnsiv yes. it works fine. i haven't compared it without since i put on one since day one, but when i'm out in the sun, i have no problem getting "100%" (50k lux) if full sun is directed to the watch face. so, it definitely charges, but i can't confirm if there is any small reduction with the protector. i wouldn't expect it to be much though if there is any reduction.
I would say the 7x is more of a mountaineering watch . The 955 is more of an athletic watch. I’ve had a 935 and it’s been great for years. I have used a plastic face cover for scratch prevention and as a contractor it has saved the plastic face many times. I am going to upgrade to the 955 or 965 soon although the 7x looks cool it’s just too big and bulky.
Great analysis and comparative, I got the 955 because the weight and the price, I'm really happy with it, it's a great watch, actually your videos help me to take the decision. Thanks for your great job with your videos.
I got the 955 as well for the same reason, wish they would offer a sapphire glass option on 955 as well that would have been great! Stuck a Supershieldz tempered glass on the 955, hopefully that helps avoid some basic kinds of damage. Thanks for the analysis and noting the quirky UX diffs, hopefully the Garmin team is looking at the feedback and a firmware update magically fixes these issues!
@@Flypowerish Got it from amazon (Supershieldz). I don't have a very strong argument for whether it is actually needed or will make a difference, i personally bought it to avoid basic scratches / bumps / drops etc. Also at 10$ for a 2 pack it wasn't too expensive for a slight peace of mind. I was sold on it by some claims about 9H hardness etc. which i didn't really verify rigorously.
Great review. You help us a lot in terms of comparison when we are thinking about buying a new one. Thanks mate, the comparison in your channel are excellent
It's pretty crazy how much they charge for so little extra with the Fenix. The 955 seems to be the best buy on the market now. For $500 less I can deal with not being able to double tap to zoom in.
So, I just bought the other day a new Fenix 7 Pro Solar Sapphire. It's nice, but I am thinking of downgrading to the 955, for a slightly less bulky watch, with all the same features (pretty much) and, the screen I think is much better indoors without the sapphire. Also, will save $300, lol.
Thanks for this detailed comparison. It is a deal breaker for me about the maps. Thanks for showing the little nuances that Fenix 7x is able to zoom in on double tap and the tap and hold that brings up options. I run and cycle and I really do not want multiple devices ie. Running watch plus bike computer. Helps me to make the decision.
If you are super into cycling I still recommend a bike computer A. It saves battery from your watch AND lasts MUCH longer when tracking GPS B. It's much easier to read the larger screen by just looking down at the handle bars vs having to mount your watch to your handle bars or looking at your wrist
Cycling Computer offers a ton more sports specific detail on a much larger screen, especially given the hours and hours using it. The Garmin 1040 is simply awesome with the amount of data and nav afforded for biking like a smart phone on your bike ;)
I’ve just upgraded from the old SQ to the Fenix 7 Solar Sapphire. I was considering the FR955 and the Epix 2 but ended up with the Fenix 7. The reason I decided against the FR955 was basically that everything is plastic and while I do look after my things you cannot avoid knocking your watch on stuff, and gorilla glass will scratch fairly easily in my opinion. If they made a steel or titanium version with sapphire glass then that would be different, but then it would cost the same as the Fenix 7 I ended up getting. The Epix 2 just ended up getting too expensive in the sapphire version, and then there is the shorter battery life The Fenix 7 display was a ‘disappointment’ when coming from an LCD display but I very quickly got used to that and love the fact that it is always on. It is perfectly clear to read the data outdoors in daylight, which is how I will mainly be using this watch. Indoors, and in darkness, the backlit screen works fine too (press button or use gesture) but not as crisp and clear as when outdoors in daylight. The Epix 2 is very obviously a much better display, but if using it often the battery life does become an issue. I tend to do about 2 hours of activity at least 5 days a week, and that does bring down the battery life a lot. For that reason I am glad I got the Fenix 7. I would have gone for the 7X version but my wrist is not that big, and the regular sized 7 is just perfect, but also the biggest I would want.
@@ChaseTheSummit It was a big leap but I really think it has been worth it. I can honestly say that there is nothing I am unhappy about with the Fenix 7 now I have had 5 days to get used to it, and adjusted settings to suit my activities. I did do a lot of research, watching all your videos too, and think I ended up making the right choice for me. Thanks for all the valuable videos on the subject.
@@DragonR333 My wrist is just shy of 7 inches (176mm) where the watch sits. The Fenix 7 is just the right size and I honestly don’t wish I had got the 7X. The extended battery life would be nice but I usually get away with a full charge once a week and that’s okay for me. I think I could probably have just about gotten away with the 7X but it is obviously a bigger and heavier lump to be carrying around, making the heart rate sensor less accurate, and increasing the risk of getting the watch caught on things you do not want to get caught on. I have not at any point wished that I had got the 7X instead but now they make the Fenix Pro and I think they all have the flashlight regardless of size, and a few new features, so maybe have a look at getting a Pro?
@@_J.F_ Thank you for your comment. It is very helpful to read. It is possible to buy Fenix 7 for 600€ and this is a good price. Probably, I will buy Fenix 7, it is cheaper than 7 Pro. Thank you for your help bro!
The 255 is like 85% of the 955 minus the mapping, training readiness, and longer battery life. It's a great watch but really depends on what you value.
At least we know what the Fenix 7+ will have. I'd love it if they put the flashlight feature into the smaller models. This is an interesting model though I prefer the Fenix line. I do wish that I could use both - the 955 for running and the Fenix for everything else.
Thank you great reviews, great comments as well. Why I can choose cycling as main sport rather than running, after all it’s a cheaper option of fenix7.
I can attest to the hassel free return at PlayBetter. I originally bought the 255 and decided I wanted maps so I bought the 955 and there was 0 hassel.
I have a question for 955 users, Do these differences in map operation still exist?? I mean double tapping and zooming in on the map and pinching your finger to mark the destination.
I bought the 955 non solar at launch,in June and buy last Monday the Fēnix 7 solar. The 955 is a great watch, nothing to complain in terms of performance and usage on my everyday use,it handle's everything. Some minor bugs but what electronic device doesn't have?😁 Is light , almost don't feel in my wrist but his plastic look in everyday use,24/7 is not so attractive. That and the software differences you mentioned on your video was the reason why I get the Fēnix 7 solar. And for me,that small differences is not so small in terms of user experience,its more refined. Now i have best of both worlds,the 955 for speed workouts and road races,and Fēnix 7 for my everyday use and trails. My only wish is someday Garmin make possible physiotrue up works on body battery, HRV and training readiness ,that way the information displayed on the different devices matches. Great video Dave, cheers from Portugal 🙂
Wow. This is why I follow you. You’re the goat. I do have some questions: 1. What watch is that on your wrist as you filmed this? 2. How do I get that neon colored watch-band? 3. What are the specs of the Epix compared to the fenix 7 solar and to the 955? The Epix is meant to be the best from Garmin. I’m wondering is the features are different and most importantly: 4. Do you need the firmware update on the Epix in order to have the same features as on the 955? Thank you. Great video.
1. Tactix 7 2. Ancool Green colored version here: geni.us/wiZn 3. The Epix is basically a Fenix 7 with an AMOLED display and slightly less battery life. If your value the AMOLED display Epix is the way to go. If you prefer battery life and transflective then the Fenix 7 is the way. Options are good! 4. Yes, a firmware update is coming to Fenix 7 / Epix soon to have all of the 955 features. It's currently in beta.
@@ChaseTheSummit the tactix looks good. Thank you for the link to the wrist band. You cover things better than most people out there. Your reviews are truly genuine. Your comparisons are well thought from start to finish. Thanks
Hi, Thank you for the video! Considering that the Fenix received the readiness update in June 2023, and if you are able to get both at the same price (it's my case in my country) which one would you buy? 955 solar or fenix 7 solar?
Great comparison, one thing I want to point out is I don’t think there is an ambient light sensor because if you turn off the touch screen it doesn’t work or if you place the watch on a hard surface where it covers all light it doesn’t work. I think I only works when the touchscreen registers your palm on the screen.
Maybe? I don't think it does though. On the Fenix you can visibly see a small circular sensor next to the Garmin logo that's clearly the light sensor. The 955 does not have this.
Have ordered the forerunner 955 NON solar, although I have not seen it in person I have enjoyed watching all the reviews on all the different watches. And have a complete understanding of the lot so thank you youtube community. 3 reasons for me are , 1. the clearest brightest true always on display. 2. The weight and 3. All the best garmin has to offer minus some scrolling issues at present. I have ordered screen protector which is a better deal for a brighter display and I have heard the protective film on the sapphire actually scratches. Done deal 🙂
I believe forerunner 955 is more value for money watch.Thanks for your excellent review Dave! . Map touch issues on 955 hopefully will be solved in the next firmware update
Hello - I watched this video to help me decide which watch to get. I had already purchased and was very dissatisfied with the Epix gen 2 so this sealed the deal for me to return the Epix and get the 955. I am an outrigger can paddler, paddling Tahitian va'a. I put my watch a few feet in front of me on the iato (the bar from the canoe to the ama). A black screen on the Epix was worthless for me training in the sun wearing sunglasses and I had "display on" for everything. The amoled times out and dims just enough for visibility to be poor - and I have good vision. Additionally, the options to change the watchface on my watch were not as numerous as the Garmin website states. My list was missing the option to change the background. All I needed was a light background, with the black numbers - but could not change it. Garmin customer support told me that the watch is designed to dim as the brighter light depletes battery. I told them that that brightness was exactly why I wanted the watch and it's on me if I drain my battery and have to recharge. I'm used to charging older devices frequently, After 2 weeks of use, I gave up. You displayed the activity screen for the 955 and I was sold. I really loved the metrics/data of the Epix and connecting it to the Garmin app on my phone has been a big boost for my training and information for my coach. The 955 data collection should be no different. I just need a good activity screen for training in bright sun with sunglasses and having the unit away from me (not on me). I ordered from PlayBetter and their customer service is great. I needed a quick turn to get the 955 since I returned the Epix yesterday. PlayBetter sent it out today and I should get it tomorrow night, which is fantastic. So your plug for PlayBetter is the real deal. Really appreciate your work. In your reviews if you can mention nuances with how people use the watches that will help consumers. A friend told me they were using their Epix for paddling - but they have the device very close to them on the canoe or they wear it (which can be good if you have "Gesture" on). I must keep the watch further away (my canoe is different). I'll miss the elegant design of the Epix, however, I need visibility and functionality.
I have a similar dilemma. 3/4 of training is running, 1/4 is MTB bike. In winter, almost only running. I don't really need super accurate multi-band and 15h more in Fenix sounds good. On the other hand, 99% of us will not really feel any difference in the battery. My main concern is the battery in the cold. In my old FR 735, the battery normally lasts 10 hours of GPS, but in a light frost only 2-3 hours because I always have the watch on my jacket or bicycle handlebars. Which watch will perform better in light frost - F7 or FR 955? PS I would prefer a clearer font on the data screen because I have poor eyesight.
Great comparison Dave. I returned my 955 and went with a 7SS in the end. Very pleased with the updates from old 6 Pro but I am not a fan of the solar ring. BTW what watch do you wear everyday/ Looks like you have a Fenix 6X or 7X nowadays? i keep thinking about swapping out the 7 for the 7X. Great videos...thanks.
Nice! Glad you found the right watch! Right now I've been wearing the 955 most days. Occasionally I'll use the Tactix 7. I change pretty often for the purpose of testing.
How did you decide for it? The FR955 is only €379 discounted here with a special shop, but the Fenix 7 is around €620-720. For me that's almost double the price jus for better battery + better touch + better build? Weight is much more though. Aaah, hard choice.
@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks, I was curious about this. The epix is so good, but at 2x the price for sapphire, ugh. Garmin is killing it with body battery and training readiness. I don't think the new apex, garmins, or aw8 will get close, but I'll try to wait a bit before buying a 955.
Great review as always Dave! by the way i have a question regarding the 955. As we know, it comes with the fixed style strap ,not quick fit or quick release. But as on your video, i can see you have the quick fir strap on it. My question is, how did you manage to get that possible? did you just put the stock spring bar and hook teh quick fit on it? or is there any other trick that you can share maybe haha
It's pretty easy. You can pop out the spring bar using a small flat head screwdriver or knife. Then simply replace the bar without the band and clip a quick fit band to it. Hope that helps!
I went with the Tactix 7 because I wanted the sapphire screen without the solar but ended up trading it in for the Fenix 7X Sapphire Solar and am actually quite pleased with the addition of solar capability. It doesn’t so much add battery life (at least in my experience these far) but it seems to minimize battery drain and I’m getting longer life than the Tactix 7 so far. Either way, Garmin watches are beasts and a joy to have on the wrist.
Hi, thanks for the useful details shared about the map features about both watch models. Just wonder, with the latest firmware updates for Forerunner 955 released, does it now offer similar map features compare to Fenix 7 ? Thank you
Hi Dave. Love your videos and podcasts. Question - what is your wrist size, is the 7x too big for your wrist? Looking at getting a 7x alongside by Epix
Hi thanks for the comparison, it was really helpful! Do you have any idea if garmin is going to fix the navigation bug and the home screen widgets not responding?
I ordered a 955 but get me the impression of a cheap watch wearing it. Can someone tell me if the black colour on the 7 solar or 7 sapphire solar goes away just with a scratch as the 6 did on my personal experience? I'm thinking of sending back the 955
I first bought an epix 2 white because its really nice looking. Sold my 6x sapphire....I love the X's size but really like the epix screen... So I bought a Fenix 7x sapphire....for now I will keep both and since they are different colours....I will prob keep both if Garmin fixes physio tru up for the new readiness features I can't sleep with the fenix 7x...so sleep with the epix with a nylon band is very comfy for me so the garmin metrics for recovery will be more precise. Now ...if this works...The oura 3 will be sold and only one echo system!...Garmin please buy Oura!
Man the 255 was at the top of my wish list for upgraded running watches… and then the 955 came along and basically crushed it. Other than the $100 savings, is the 255 basically inferior to the 955? Back to saving my lunch money I go…
I wouldn't say it's inferior it's just different. The 955 is basically a Fenix 7 in a plastic shell where the 255 is primarily designed for running activities (though it can do more). If you don't often use mapping/navigation or need the other bells and whistles the 255 is still an excellent watch. The 955 just has better battery life, mapping, and the training readiness feature
Thanks for this. I just got the fenix and was wondering if I should return it for the forerunner. I hike, and am pretty rough on my body (I'm a klutz), so I think made the right choice. Also, the 7s weight is about the weight of the forerunner I believe, thought it's profile is still much higher
Am I stupid or does my 955 actually do turn off the light once I put my hand over it? I didn't even know that this works but I tried, after seeing here now that the Fenix can do that. And it works as well on my 955!? I guess it came via update, since the video one year old.
Thank you for your video, I have had the 955 solar for over 1 1/2, now the sleep metrics is not working. do you know if I need to reset the watch? I am confused I checked the manual, the sleep was working and now is not, I would love some help with this process. thanks
Thanks Dave! Could you please comment on the display when it shows the 4 hours heart rate view or the stress level? Is the Fenix 7 much better to show the color of the heart rate? Thanks!🙏
Hi Dave and thanks for your video. I am really hesitant between those 2 models but Black Friday sales are bringing interesting discounts on the Fenix 7 which seems to have a better mapping feature, one of the selling points for me in addition to the touchscreen. My questions are: - Maps: I understand that only the higher models (7X, Solar) of the Fenix7 are including Topo Maps. Does that mean that we have to purchase the maps for the standard model? Is it a one-time fee or an annual fee to get these maps? Does that also means that as long (again for the standard model) as you don't upload the maps you cannot use any type of navigation or breadcrumbs feature? - Payments: It appears that the Garmin payment feature only works with certain banks with a limited number for Canada. Only 11 banks across all Canada (with either Visa or Mastercard) seem to allow Garmin Pay and banks such as BMO, RBC, Scotiabank or TD do not seem to be among them which very much limits a feature that could be really practical. - GPS: How long does it usually takes to get the GPS signal with the Fenix 7? Thank you very much!
Great video comparison. Was thinking of these 2 prior to the Enduro 2 coming out, now I'm really in bind trying to make a decision. Also what color band is that? Is it like a lime green or yellow?
Can someone tell me whats wrong please. I wore my fr 955 last week and did a 16km run. Then yesterday i did a 12km run, and right after that the watch said ""this is your longest run."" Even though its saved last weeks 16km run and all.. Anyone know why it did that ???
I am looking into a smartwatch for step count and maybe a few other simple things and I truly like the Fossil brand and the Fossil 6 I was offered the Samsung 5 titanium from T-mobile for a 50% discount for $250 I was told to look at the Garmin 955 and I use my watch for everything light swimming the gym long walks I only take it off at night for sleep from the three I mentioned and for the price range what would you feel is a good choice?? I appreciate any feedback you can offer thank you.
So, a year later now, has Garmin solved the software issues? I have my eyes on it, especially the map functionalities, but that left-swipe problem was a bit of a cold shower.
I bought Fenix 7 Solar today for 650$. I hope it's a good buy, waiting for delivery. Forerunner 955 is a bit cheaper but I like the appearance of Fenix 7 more. I'm not a super big athlete, my goal is to get fitter, so I hope this watch helps me.
Although the implementation is OK, I can't help but being put off by these screens now that I've seen an Epix 2/Venu 2 plus. To each their own but I would strongly encourage anyone to check out an epix and a fenix/forerunner side by side in a store before spending $$$. These AMOLED screens are just gorgeous and make the watch such a better experience (imo), better make sure you're not gonna regret getting the old MIP tech. Especially since this is a watch you're going to interact with everyday for the next 4 or 5 years.
OLED is great but it's not great in every use case. MIP displays still have their place when it comes to power consumption, and super bright sun situations. I also find OLED can be a little distracting at times when it "glows" but like you said, to each their own! I like both for different reasons. I don't think MIP is going anywhere.
@@ChaseTheSummit Absolutely. I do see the current situation reverse in the future though. Meaning more SKUs of Epix generation and maybe only 1 size of fenix. Or, if they decide the fenix brand is more valuable, they might just move the oled onto fenix, stop epix and push the enduro as a hardcore outdoor specialist watch. Let's see. I for one am very glad they went the epix route as it makes for a great watch both for outdoor activities and every day life routine. My fenix 5X plus was straight up hard to read in sunny conditions but I know they improved MIP since. Thanks for your work and great videos!
I believe Fenix 6/7 look cool and might be durable, but the top heavy design is really impractical. It bounces a lot and that decreases the accuracy of measurement. When I was shopping for fenix, I tried 6 and 6s. The 6s is so much more wereable. You can have it on the wrist whole day and night, so you get the full benefits of the Garmin tracking of sleep, stress and recovery. The only downside is lower battery durability, but with 10 days it is still decent.
@@ChaseTheSummit I'm very blessed to be able to afford these devices. Thankfully I'm not a cyclist or I'm sure I'd part with a lot more money. Thanks for the great videos.
A quick question. I have Fenix 5 plus for mostly running and golfing. Thinking about buying 955 lighter and longer battery life with better features and cheaper. What do you think? Any suggestions?
The name is Dave! But thanks! The 955 is better in just about every way compared to the 945 LTE but of course it does not have LTE if that's a feature you're interested in!
well when you compare data, like heart rate. it's just a tips, dont forget that your heart rate monitor is not really accurate and also there is a program like garmin behind who threat the data so you will get like 5% less accuracy. at the end there is less accuracy so it's really difficult to compare watch programs vs monitor programs without the knowedge of the programs. Best physiologist in the world teach me that.. and it's same for gps, gps will have same accuracy it's just the program who threat the data ! it's simple, take a monitor and use like 5 differents programs like garmin, training peaks, strava.. you will see, you won't get the same heart rate data
Can anyone comment on how strong the vibration is on the forerunner 955? I have the Amazfit gtr 4 and it vibrates strong enough to wake me up, but I also had a ticwatch pro 3 and I found the vibration very weak. Thanks.
What about the phone app and the widgets though? Do you need to be able to scroll through the last 24 hours on the watch or can you just look at the last 24 hours on your phone? Personally I would like to just have it work on the watch, but my wife brought this up because it's what her friends do that have Garmin watches (though I don't know which ones they have). If you are in an area with no cell towers can you still see the information from the watch on your phone? Let's say you're going out with your wife to see a movie, are you going to blind and annoy other people in the theater uncontrollably with either of these watches?
Anyone who has had a Fenix 7 for a while, how is the bezel holding up? I just got one and I feel like the smallest thing will scratch the DLC and then it will look like crap bc the raw titanium will be exposed. Whereas the plastic of the 955 won’t show as much.
The metal will always scratch even with DLC. Yes, scratches on plastic are much less obvious. It's personal preference. I personally think a "worn in bezel" looks kind of cool like a vintage patina while others may not be into that look!
There was a great discount on fenix 7. I actually got fenix 7 solar for the price of 955 (because it's just released no discounts yet). I think I will prefer 955 because it's lighter, but I partially solved the problem with nylon band for fenix (6 g instead of original 24 g). Another strange thing, I noticed during run that my heart rate on fenix is around 5 beats lower than usually with 255.
Hi. I need advice on which watch to choose. Suntoo 9 Peak, Garmin Forerunner 955 or Polar Grit X Pro. The watch is mainly used for swimming, mountain swimming and sleeping, tape and other monitoring and monitoring tools. What is daily use. Regards !
What do you think about the 955 as a hiking watch? That's mostly what I want it for. I want the full blown maps for hiking. I know it's advertised as a running watch for the most part. But I'm leaning towards the 955 over the Fenix because of the size and weight. I want to use it as an every day watch as well.
I ordered Fenix 7s solar mostly because I was worried about the maps features discussed in this video. The watch was so heavy, bulky and uncomfortable that I sent it back and got a forerunner 955 and I like it so much more. The inability to double-tap isn't a big deal. Another thing I didn't like about the Fenix 7 (besides the price) was the screen: it's very dim even on the brightest setting because of the sapphire glass. I spent $900 on a watch and I hated wearing it. I'm so happy I went with the cheaper, in my opinion, better watch. Just my thoughts.
Incorrect.
@@HarryKuloh What he said is "incorrect"?
I also am sending my 7x back today. Price to features ratio it's rediculous. Not to mention it's not super comfortable to wear. I think this watch should be $700 a most. Not $950. Save yourself the money and get the 6x if you want a fenix. I promise you wont use the touch screen as much as you thought you would. But now that i've found the 955 i'll probably pick up this one. Simply because Garmin will likely support it longer than the fenix 6 series.
I appreciate the honesty. I ordered a Fenix 6 for the sale, but I had zero knowledge of any Garmin watches until I watched one review and now I get tons of recommended. How's your touch screen? I'm coming from apple watch
@@Terran0va_Plays awesome. I ordered a leftover 6 Pro !!!😊
Thank you for this super useful and well put together video! :D
I actually took notes while watching this video and maybe those are helpful to anybody else, so I'll post them here:
forerunner 955:
- sleek,lighter design (plastic)
- 53g
- 32gb storage
- Gorilla Glass Dx
- 5atm waterproof
- Quickfit wrist strap compatible
- brighter, contrasty Display
- training readiness, hrv status, race calendar update on Fenix planned
- cant scroll in grapahs, no double tap to zoom, no touch hold for destination on map
- only dimming in sleep mode
- no power modes
- 15days batterylife, 42h gps
Fenix 7
- rugged, heavier design
- 79g
- 16gb storage
- “powerglass”
- 10atm waterproof
- Quickfit wrist strap included
- brightnessensor
- no multiband gps (only 7x and higher)
- 18 days batterylife, 57h gps
For anyone thinking, he could now skip the video, I recommend to still watch the video, because the nuances explained in the video are important and cant be conveyed via text.
That just about sums it up!
Multiband only for the sapphire version, not only the 7X
Keep in mind that the water resistant “depth” is really referring to the pressure it would take to push water into the watch. This gets to be important for when you are jumping into a pool, crashing a wake board/water ski or getting smashed by a wave at the beach. The depth is just a reference to something easy for most people to understand. That being said, the increase in water resistance impacts more than just divers.
I had the 945 for many years. I brought it al around the world with me and done everything you can imagine in terms of testing the water resitance. Even jumped into rivers from 15-20 meters. Never had the slightest problem. Now im rocking the 955.
Has anyone tried scuba diving eith s Fenix 7? I know it’s not intended for it and doesn’t have the certification either, but I wonder if it would support diving at 20-30m (~60-90 ft or 2-3 ATM in other words)
@@proyectozonda The Fenix 7 is certified to 10 ATM so if you are diving at 20-30 meters, which is 2-3 ATM, then you are not even near the maximum certification of the watch. That said the Fenix 7 is not a dive watch so I am not sure why you would want to wear it for diving except to tell the time?
@@_J.F_ I was thinking on using it just for timing the whole diving and the time at max depth… and was hoping I would also benefit from the barometer but found in a forum that Garmin has restricted it to show depth greater than 3m☹️so I think it still can be an option at least to time track🤷♂️
@@proyectozonda Using the Fenix 7 as a depth gage for diving down to 30 meters would be extremely dangerous as the watch barometer is designed for use above water and a depth gauge is designed for use under water. When diving to 30 meters you need to calculate decompression stops accurately and to do that you need an accurate and calibrated depth gauge.
Actually, you can scroll on the 955. It is a slight strange but in order to scroll you have to long press, then an arrow on the side appears allowing one to scroll side to side.
Omg that's so good to know! thanks for this
Great review, I’m really liking my forerunner 955 solar. It’s so powerful and lightweight .I don’t realize I’m wearing it!
One big win of the Multi all super band GPS is when running a specific pace, like for a race or training session. With normal GPS or GPS+Glonass the gauge is all over the place and very hectic. Even when you run the same pace, the watch says you are to slow or to fast. Using the multi band GPS, this changes totally and the gauche is very stable at the pace. You can see the difference also on every run at the pace graph. For me a big winner and training makes now much more fun.
Good point!
Do both have this feature?
Edit: kept watching and question answered. All 955’s have multi and only upper tier Fenix 7’s have it.
I went from 945 to 955 solar and it is a BIG difference... both in features and the speed and responsiveness of the watch. Also, the accuracy and battery life improved.
Actually an easy solution for me. The armor-piercing security of the Fenix 7 is redundant. Anyway, in two or three years there will be a new model that you want to buy. Wearing 955 on the hand, we get a more comfortable watch. Fenix 7 is worth taking only for those who like big iron "tactical" watches or just a military man, then yes. For sports and the city, of course, 955.
Great comparison Dave! I just wish the 955 would do a quick fit strap. I've also noticed some very weird differences like the navigation one you mentioned here. WTF? I don't under stand why on earth Garmin would have a different code base for these functions. Wouldn't they have the same base code and then branches for all the different watches types? If they want to pull in maps / navigation, pull and merge that code then run testing. It seems like there'd more work to do these things differently. One day I'll interview a Garmin engineer . . . some day I'll get answers 🤦♂
Thanks Matt! I have a quick fit strap on mine but it didn't come with it. I think the firmware differences are a result of the different silo's/departments at Garmin. I feel like the 955 is such a unique forerunner that it belongs in the "outdoor" segment and not really in the Running/Tri segment... But who am I to judge? Just some shmuck on RUclips!
@@ChaseTheSummit - 100% agree but those different departments have to share the basic operating system code at a minimum. They’re all so similar across departments. Don’t be weird Garmin. That 955 navigation should be fixed to be like the Fenix IMHO. But what do I know, I’m just some dumb guy in the comments section of RUclips videos. 😆
@@mlegrand used your discount code for my 7x solar sapphire. Hopefully they send you kickbacks!
@@jeremyrobinette2563 - I only get kickbacks from Amazon but I try to highlight Dialed because they pass along a discount! 👌
@@mlegrand it’s much appreciated from someone that cannot really afford such a high end watch. Sticker is rad also!
Very helpful because I was originally looking at Fenix 7 for the self contained mapping and I am glad to see that the FR is essentially the same (I can live without the extra gesture feature). Thanks for that descriptive info which you can't get from the advertising materials. A well built polymer watch (glass fiber keeps it dimensionally stable) is a good thing-- light weight and scratches don't even show (had a carbon fiber non-smart watch and really liked it)
Ne prenez surtout pas la fénix 7
Best comparison vid. Didn't know about the nav navigation diffs. Unfortunately, they're all super expensive, so I'll stick with my fenix 5 for as long as possible!
I ended up with the Fenix 7s over the 955 due the size.
I wish they had the 955s like they do with the 255s.
Interesting that they chose one size. Not gonna lie, I prefer one size. There's WAY too many garmin models available lol.
@@ChaseTheSummit There should be a 955s for women or people with small wrists.
Me too! I've just ordered the Fenix 7s because I didn't want a huge watch.
The fenix 7x sapphire solar watch has a major drawback, the screen in the menu as well as the messages that arrive when the phone is connected to the watch are set to black background and pale blue text (due to the poor finish of the sapphire glass, there is no white color, but pale blue color) and that text is hard to read. There is no option like on older models of garmin watches to change the background to be white or pale gray and the text to be black, which would be more legible. (Inverter color or display color setting). As soon as you sweat a little around your eyes during activities, you can't see clearly, or if you have a smaller (+ eye diopter) for reading, which most people over 40 have the same problem, you strain to read what is written on the screen. Otherwise, the watch is excellently made, but this problem with the screen and the lack of an option to set the background to be white or gray and the text to be black, which is more pleasant and legible for the eye, makes the garmin fenix 7x sapphire solar watch unusable for many people and if not documents in some software update the watch is a complete and utter failure. I found a lot of the same comments in several forums which says that the problem is not innocuous.
Great comparrision! I had the 945 for many years brought it all around the world, rock climbing, hiking, swiming, jumping 20 m knto rivers. Never had an issue with durability. Now i upgraded to 955 and loving it. I prefer tye forerunner line because of the lower weight. You barely notice it.
Thanks for sharing!
as always, fantastic review. some comments and experiences to share:
- i speculate that the backlight is inferior on the 7X is due to the sapphire lens with its lower transmission of light.
- while sapphire is nice, i have had great luck adding a tempered glass protector to all my Forerunners including my 955 Solar
- i too am puzzled by the lack of so many touch based features on the 955 solar, most notably the maps, and also wish i had things like the advanced power management modes and more detailed glances/widgets. with the 955 Solar, the solar widget is really lobotomized...it doesn't tell the user of any cumulative solar insolation for the day like it does on the Fenix 7
all that being said, the 955 is still the right watch for me. i had been lusting for the Fenix 7/Epix2 since it was released, but i didn't want the added weight for a 24/7 watch. i was happily surprised by the price point the 955 and 955 Solar came in at. i originally bough the Solar model because the small potential battery endurance, but mostly because i felt the solar ring would offset the broad black bezel. after having the watch for a month, i can say the Solar has the potential to make a real world difference if you spend significant time outside (or driving) as i found out while on vacation. and while the solar ring was distracting to me initially (due to its reflective nature), in the end, it met my initial goal of minimizing the look of the bezel.
fingers crossed that some of these Fenix 7 features will make their way to the FR955 (at least the map gestures), but not holding my breathe...
I would say one of the benefits of Fenix series is that they receive Ll the software upgrdes. I don't like the weight and bulkiness of the medium Fenix either.
Does the solar still work with the glass protector on it? I know Garmin doesn't recommend it on the Solar.
@@rburnsiv yes. it works fine. i haven't compared it without since i put on one since day one, but when i'm out in the sun, i have no problem getting "100%" (50k lux) if full sun is directed to the watch face. so, it definitely charges, but i can't confirm if there is any small reduction with the protector. i wouldn't expect it to be much though if there is any reduction.
@@derekfong987 Thanks!
Thank you so much. This VDO is what I’m looking for. Such a great comparison! 👍🏻
Was looking to get the Fenix 7 and was just about to check out but watching your video convinced me to get the Forerunner 955. Thanks for the help!
I would say the 7x is more of a mountaineering watch . The 955 is more of an athletic watch. I’ve had a 935 and it’s been great for years. I have used a plastic face cover for scratch prevention and as a contractor it has saved the plastic face many times. I am going to upgrade to the 955 or 965 soon although the 7x looks cool it’s just too big and bulky.
Great analysis and comparative, I got the 955 because the weight and the price, I'm really happy with it, it's a great watch, actually your videos help me to take the decision. Thanks for your great job with your videos.
I got the 955 as well for the same reason, wish they would offer a sapphire glass option on 955 as well that would have been great! Stuck a Supershieldz tempered glass on the 955, hopefully that helps avoid some basic kinds of damage.
Thanks for the analysis and noting the quirky UX diffs, hopefully the Garmin team is looking at the feedback and a firmware update magically fixes these issues!
@@NHariPrasad mate how and from where did you get the tampered glass? Isnt it enough that the 955 has gorilla glass dx?
@@Flypowerish Got it from amazon (Supershieldz). I don't have a very strong argument for whether it is actually needed or will make a difference, i personally bought it to avoid basic scratches / bumps / drops etc. Also at 10$ for a 2 pack it wasn't too expensive for a slight peace of mind. I was sold on it by some claims about 9H hardness etc. which i didn't really verify rigorously.
@@NHariPrasad thank you for the answer. Is it difficult to put it?
@@Flypowerish I found it super easy - about 2 mins.
About time Dave!! Good to see the mention of maps differences etc 👏🏽😉 Can’t wait to get my hands on an Epix, it looks fantastic 🤩 Great video mate! 🌟
Thanks for watching!
Great review. You help us a lot in terms of comparison when we are thinking about buying a new one. Thanks mate, the comparison in your channel are excellent
Glad you found it helpful!
You do the best reviews and comparisons on RUclips
Thanks!
It's pretty crazy how much they charge for so little extra with the Fenix. The 955 seems to be the best buy on the market now. For $500 less I can deal with not being able to double tap to zoom in.
955 is certainly the better value!
So, I just bought the other day a new Fenix 7 Pro Solar Sapphire. It's nice, but I am thinking of downgrading to the 955, for a slightly less bulky watch, with all the same features (pretty much) and, the screen I think is much better indoors without the sapphire. Also, will save $300, lol.
Thanks for this detailed comparison. It is a deal breaker for me about the maps. Thanks for showing the little nuances that Fenix 7x is able to zoom in on double tap and the tap and hold that brings up options. I run and cycle and I really do not want multiple devices ie. Running watch plus bike computer. Helps me to make the decision.
If you are super into cycling I still recommend a bike computer
A. It saves battery from your watch AND lasts MUCH longer when tracking GPS
B. It's much easier to read the larger screen by just looking down at the handle bars vs having to mount your watch to your handle bars or looking at your wrist
Cycling Computer offers a ton more sports specific detail on a much larger screen, especially given the hours and hours using it. The Garmin 1040 is simply awesome with the amount of data and nav afforded for biking like a smart phone on your bike ;)
I’ve just upgraded from the old SQ to the Fenix 7 Solar Sapphire. I was considering the FR955 and the Epix 2 but ended up with the Fenix 7. The reason I decided against the FR955 was basically that everything is plastic and while I do look after my things you cannot avoid knocking your watch on stuff, and gorilla glass will scratch fairly easily in my opinion. If they made a steel or titanium version with sapphire glass then that would be different, but then it would cost the same as the Fenix 7 I ended up getting. The Epix 2 just ended up getting too expensive in the sapphire version, and then there is the shorter battery life
The Fenix 7 display was a ‘disappointment’ when coming from an LCD display but I very quickly got used to that and love the fact that it is always on. It is perfectly clear to read the data outdoors in daylight, which is how I will mainly be using this watch. Indoors, and in darkness, the backlit screen works fine too (press button or use gesture) but not as crisp and clear as when outdoors in daylight. The Epix 2 is very obviously a much better display, but if using it often the battery life does become an issue. I tend to do about 2 hours of activity at least 5 days a week, and that does bring down the battery life a lot. For that reason I am glad I got the Fenix 7. I would have gone for the 7X version but my wrist is not that big, and the regular sized 7 is just perfect, but also the biggest I would want.
That's a big leap! I think a lot of people feel that temporary disappointment with MIP displays. Thanks for sharing.
@@ChaseTheSummit It was a big leap but I really think it has been worth it. I can honestly say that there is nothing I am unhappy about with the Fenix 7 now I have had 5 days to get used to it, and adjusted settings to suit my activities. I did do a lot of research, watching all your videos too, and think I ended up making the right choice for me. Thanks for all the valuable videos on the subject.
@@_J.F_ How big is your wrist? I am thinking about 7 an 7X and don't know what to do.
@@DragonR333 My wrist is just shy of 7 inches (176mm) where the watch sits. The Fenix 7 is just the right size and I honestly don’t wish I had got the 7X. The extended battery life would be nice but I usually get away with a full charge once a week and that’s okay for me. I think I could probably have just about gotten away with the 7X but it is obviously a bigger and heavier lump to be carrying around, making the heart rate sensor less accurate, and increasing the risk of getting the watch caught on things you do not want to get caught on. I have not at any point wished that I had got the 7X instead but now they make the Fenix Pro and I think they all have the flashlight regardless of size, and a few new features, so maybe have a look at getting a Pro?
@@_J.F_ Thank you for your comment. It is very helpful to read. It is possible to buy Fenix 7 for 600€ and this is a good price. Probably, I will buy Fenix 7, it is cheaper than 7 Pro. Thank you for your help bro!
You helped me make my mind up. Much respect and I am subscribed to you now. Let’s get it!!!!
I’ve had the FR 10, 25, 620 and currently the 245. Absolutely love Garmin FR series and am waiting for the 265 or 655 (if it ever comes)
I was torn until you said "If you are wacking off on rocks....", then I knew which one was for me.
Excellent comparison. A+. Don't see why the software should be different.
I'd really like to see a 255 v 955 v 7S, especially once the 7S gets those new features dropped.
I’m filming this right now actually 👍🏽
The 255 is like 85% of the 955 minus the mapping, training readiness, and longer battery life. It's a great watch but really depends on what you value.
@@ActiveIdeas Any timeline for when you might post the video? Thanks!
@@ChaseTheSummit that’s kinda what I’ve seen in yours des and dc reviews. Isn’t training readiness basically just another body battery?
Thank you very much! Very nice! Perfect! Wonderful! Excellent! Great! Amazing!
Dave, great summary! Do you maybe know if the FR955 issues with maps and scrolling widgets are solved after latest update?
I don't think Garmin considers these "issues" so they haven't been changed unfortunately.
At least we know what the Fenix 7+ will have. I'd love it if they put the flashlight feature into the smaller models. This is an interesting model though I prefer the Fenix line. I do wish that I could use both - the 955 for running and the Fenix for everything else.
Thank you great reviews, great comments as well. Why I can choose cycling as main sport rather than running, after all it’s a cheaper option of fenix7.
I can attest to the hassel free return at PlayBetter. I originally bought the 255 and decided I wanted maps so I bought the 955 and there was 0 hassel.
Awesome! Glad to hear you got what you wanted!
I have a question for 955 users, Do these differences in map operation still exist?? I mean double tapping and zooming in on the map and pinching your finger to mark the destination.
Anyone?) still wondering
I'm currently trying out a fenix 6 and love it. I feel like I might go fenix...
I bought the 955 non solar at launch,in June and buy last Monday the Fēnix 7 solar. The 955 is a great watch, nothing to complain in terms of performance and usage on my everyday use,it handle's everything. Some minor bugs but what electronic device doesn't have?😁 Is light , almost don't feel in my wrist but his plastic look in everyday use,24/7 is not so attractive. That and the software differences you mentioned on your video was the reason why I get the Fēnix 7 solar. And for me,that small differences is not so small in terms of user experience,its more refined. Now i have best of both worlds,the 955 for speed workouts and road races,and Fēnix 7 for my everyday use and trails. My only wish is someday Garmin make possible physiotrue up works on body battery, HRV and training readiness ,that way the information displayed on the different devices matches. Great video Dave, cheers from Portugal 🙂
Wow. This is why I follow you. You’re the goat.
I do have some questions:
1. What watch is that on your wrist as you filmed this?
2. How do I get that neon colored watch-band?
3. What are the specs of the Epix compared to the fenix 7 solar and to the 955? The Epix is meant to be the best from Garmin. I’m wondering is the features are different and most importantly:
4. Do you need the firmware update on the Epix in order to have the same features as on the 955?
Thank you. Great video.
1. Tactix 7
2. Ancool Green colored version here: geni.us/wiZn
3. The Epix is basically a Fenix 7 with an AMOLED display and slightly less battery life. If your value the AMOLED display Epix is the way to go. If you prefer battery life and transflective then the Fenix 7 is the way. Options are good!
4. Yes, a firmware update is coming to Fenix 7 / Epix soon to have all of the 955 features. It's currently in beta.
@@ChaseTheSummit the tactix looks good.
Thank you for the link to the wrist band.
You cover things better than most people out there.
Your reviews are truly genuine. Your comparisons are well thought from start to finish.
Thanks
Amazing review!
very helpful video, i watched the whole content. if i have extra money, i would probably go for fenix7
Hi, Thank you for the video! Considering that the Fenix received the readiness update in June 2023, and if you are able to get both at the same price (it's my case in my country) which one would you buy? 955 solar or fenix 7 solar?
hi. thx for the greatt review! is the double tap zoom in on the 955 available now after the latest updates?
Great comparison, one thing I want to point out is I don’t think there is an ambient light sensor because if you turn off the touch screen it doesn’t work or if you place the watch on a hard surface where it covers all light it doesn’t work. I think I only works when the touchscreen registers your palm on the screen.
Maybe? I don't think it does though. On the Fenix you can visibly see a small circular sensor next to the Garmin logo that's clearly the light sensor. The 955 does not have this.
Always great reviews, Dave.
Thanks for the continued support!
Have ordered the forerunner 955 NON solar, although I have not seen it in person I have enjoyed watching all the reviews on all the different watches. And have a complete understanding of the lot so thank you youtube community. 3 reasons for me are , 1. the clearest brightest true always on display. 2. The weight and 3. All the best garmin has to offer minus some scrolling issues at present. I have ordered screen protector which is a better deal for a brighter display and I have heard the protective film on the sapphire actually scratches. Done deal 🙂
Such a useful video! Thanks! One question: Can the touchscreen be turned off on the Forerunner 955?
Yes it can
I believe forerunner 955 is more value for money watch.Thanks for your excellent review Dave! . Map touch issues on 955 hopefully will be solved in the next firmware update
I agree, the value is through the roof!
Hello - I watched this video to help me decide which watch to get. I had already purchased and was very dissatisfied with the Epix gen 2 so this sealed the deal for me to return the Epix and get the 955. I am an outrigger can paddler, paddling Tahitian va'a. I put my watch a few feet in front of me on the iato (the bar from the canoe to the ama). A black screen on the Epix was worthless for me training in the sun wearing sunglasses and I had "display on" for everything. The amoled times out and dims just enough for visibility to be poor - and I have good vision. Additionally, the options to change the watchface on my watch were not as numerous as the Garmin website states. My list was missing the option to change the background. All I needed was a light background, with the black numbers - but could not change it. Garmin customer support told me that the watch is designed to dim as the brighter light depletes battery. I told them that that brightness was exactly why I wanted the watch and it's on me if I drain my battery and have to recharge. I'm used to charging older devices frequently, After 2 weeks of use, I gave up.
You displayed the activity screen for the 955 and I was sold. I really loved the metrics/data of the Epix and connecting it to the Garmin app on my phone has been a big boost for my training and information for my coach. The 955 data collection should be no different. I just need a good activity screen for training in bright sun with sunglasses and having the unit away from me (not on me).
I ordered from PlayBetter and their customer service is great. I needed a quick turn to get the 955 since I returned the Epix yesterday. PlayBetter sent it out today and I should get it tomorrow night, which is fantastic.
So your plug for PlayBetter is the real deal. Really appreciate your work.
In your reviews if you can mention nuances with how people use the watches that will help consumers. A friend told me they were using their Epix for paddling - but they have the device very close to them on the canoe or they wear it (which can be good if you have "Gesture" on). I must keep the watch further away (my canoe is different).
I'll miss the elegant design of the Epix, however, I need visibility and functionality.
Great Vid. Thanks from Germany 😁 what watch are you wearing? Ist ist a tactix? Thanks and keep in going.
Yep, Tactix was on my wrist in this video.
I have a similar dilemma. 3/4 of training is running, 1/4 is MTB bike. In winter, almost only running. I don't really need super accurate multi-band and 15h more in Fenix sounds good. On the other hand, 99% of us will not really feel any difference in the battery. My main concern is the battery in the cold. In my old FR 735, the battery normally lasts 10 hours of GPS, but in a light frost only 2-3 hours because I always have the watch on my jacket or bicycle handlebars. Which watch will perform better in light frost - F7 or FR 955? PS I would prefer a clearer font on the data screen because I have poor eyesight.
Great comparison Dave. I returned my 955 and went with a 7SS in the end. Very pleased with the updates from old 6 Pro but I am not a fan of the solar ring. BTW what watch do you wear everyday/ Looks like you have a Fenix 6X or 7X nowadays? i keep thinking about swapping out the 7 for the 7X. Great videos...thanks.
Nice! Glad you found the right watch! Right now I've been wearing the 955 most days. Occasionally I'll use the Tactix 7. I change pretty often for the purpose of testing.
How did you decide for it? The FR955 is only €379 discounted here with a special shop, but the Fenix 7 is around €620-720. For me that's almost double the price jus for better battery + better touch + better build? Weight is much more though. Aaah, hard choice.
What are you not a fan of the solar ring?
Hey. Is that discount in Netherlands still valid? What is the name of the shop?
@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks, I was curious about this. The epix is so good, but at 2x the price for sapphire, ugh. Garmin is killing it with body battery and training readiness. I don't think the new apex, garmins, or aw8 will get close, but I'll try to wait a bit before buying a 955.
Great review as always Dave!
by the way i have a question regarding the 955. As we know, it comes with the fixed style strap ,not quick fit or quick release. But as on your video, i can see you have the quick fir strap on it.
My question is, how did you manage to get that possible? did you just put the stock spring bar and hook teh quick fit on it? or is there any other trick that you can share maybe haha
It's pretty easy. You can pop out the spring bar using a small flat head screwdriver or knife. Then simply replace the bar without the band and clip a quick fit band to it. Hope that helps!
@@ChaseTheSummit that’s pretty much clear, thank you so much Dave! Really appreciate it 👍
Is anyone a dinosaur like me and still using a 920XT? Great review, but I'm not yet ready to trade in old faithful 🙂
I went with the Tactix 7 because I wanted the sapphire screen without the solar but ended up trading it in for the Fenix 7X Sapphire Solar and am actually quite pleased with the addition of solar capability. It doesn’t so much add battery life (at least in my experience these far) but it seems to minimize battery drain and I’m getting longer life than the Tactix 7 so far. Either way, Garmin watches are beasts and a joy to have on the wrist.
I went oposite direction, because screen on non-solar Tactix 7 is so much better than screen on F7X Sapphire Solar!
Isn't minimizing battery drain the same as adding battery life?
@@rburnsiv fair point!
Hi, thanks for the useful details shared about the map features about both watch models. Just wonder, with the latest firmware updates for Forerunner 955 released, does it now offer similar map features compare to Fenix 7 ? Thank you
It does. Actually tested it right now.
Great vkdeo! Right now, FR955 and Fenix 7 are at the same price... Bearing that in mind, the doubt between both models remains?
Hi Dave. Love your videos and podcasts. Question - what is your wrist size, is the 7x too big for your wrist? Looking at getting a 7x alongside by Epix
165mm... No the 7X isn't too big but I'm kind of used to big watches. It really comes down to personal preference.
Hi thanks for the comparison, it was really helpful!
Do you have any idea if garmin is going to fix the navigation bug and the home screen widgets not responding?
I'm not sure if they even consider the navigation stuff a "bug". What are you referring too with the widgets? They work fine for me.
I ordered a 955 but get me the impression of a cheap watch wearing it. Can someone tell me if the black colour on the 7 solar or 7 sapphire solar goes away just with a scratch as the 6 did on my personal experience? I'm thinking of sending back the 955
I first bought an epix 2 white because its really nice looking.
Sold my 6x sapphire....I love the X's size but really like the epix screen...
So I bought a Fenix 7x sapphire....for now I will keep both and since they are different colours....I will prob keep both if Garmin fixes physio tru up for the new readiness features
I can't sleep with the fenix 7x...so sleep with the epix with a nylon band is very comfy for me so the garmin metrics for recovery will be more precise.
Now ...if this works...The oura 3 will be sold and only one echo system!...Garmin please buy Oura!
Garmin buying Oura... that would be wild!
Thanks, this was really informative.
Man the 255 was at the top of my wish list for upgraded running watches… and then the 955 came along and basically crushed it. Other than the $100 savings, is the 255 basically inferior to the 955?
Back to saving my lunch money I go…
I wouldn't say it's inferior it's just different. The 955 is basically a Fenix 7 in a plastic shell where the 255 is primarily designed for running activities (though it can do more). If you don't often use mapping/navigation or need the other bells and whistles the 255 is still an excellent watch. The 955 just has better battery life, mapping, and the training readiness feature
@@ChaseTheSummit thanks for the feedback!
Thanks for this. I just got the fenix and was wondering if I should return it for the forerunner. I hike, and am pretty rough on my body (I'm a klutz), so I think made the right choice. Also, the 7s weight is about the weight of the forerunner I believe, thought it's profile is still much higher
Am I stupid or does my 955 actually do turn off the light once I put my hand over it? I didn't even know that this works but I tried, after seeing here now that the Fenix can do that. And it works as well on my 955!? I guess it came via update, since the video one year old.
Thank you for your video, I have had the 955 solar for over 1 1/2, now the sleep metrics is not working. do you know if I need to reset the watch? I am confused I checked the manual, the sleep was working and now is not, I would love some help with this process. thanks
Can you do a review on the 965 vs fenix 7 and the 955 please
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Have you ever addressed the wristbands quality in comparison to cheap variants online in a vlog before?
I haven't but that's a great idea! I'll see what I can do!
@@ChaseTheSummit 💙💚❤💛💜
Thanks Dave! Could you please comment on the display when it shows the 4 hours heart rate view or the stress level? Is the Fenix 7 much better to show the color of the heart rate? Thanks!🙏
It's a little easier to read on Fenix 7 and of course it's scrollable unlike the 955.
@@ChaseTheSummit Thanks!
Hi Dave and thanks for your video. I am really hesitant between those 2 models but Black Friday sales are bringing interesting discounts on the Fenix 7 which seems to have a better mapping feature, one of the selling points for me in addition to the touchscreen.
My questions are:
- Maps: I understand that only the higher models (7X, Solar) of the Fenix7 are including Topo Maps. Does that mean that we have to purchase the maps for the standard model? Is it a one-time fee or an annual fee to get these maps? Does that also means that as long (again for the standard model) as you don't upload the maps you cannot use any type of navigation or breadcrumbs feature?
- Payments: It appears that the Garmin payment feature only works with certain banks with a limited number for Canada. Only 11 banks across all Canada (with either Visa or Mastercard) seem to allow Garmin Pay and banks such as BMO, RBC, Scotiabank or TD do not seem to be among them which very much limits a feature that could be really practical.
- GPS: How long does it usually takes to get the GPS signal with the Fenix 7?
Thank you very much!
Maps are free, and needed for navigation features.
Thx for this review. Just wondering why the two watches were showing different time, one minute difference? Shouldn’t time be the same?
Great question, I wonder if it's because the Fenix 7X was off for a few days prior to filming so it wasn't sync'd?
Great video comparison. Was thinking of these 2 prior to the Enduro 2 coming out, now I'm really in bind trying to make a decision.
Also what color band is that? Is it like a lime green or yellow?
It's a neon green Ancool band from amazon.
@@ChaseTheSummit awesome thanks so much! That would match well with the Enduro 2. Finding it hard to find bands that go with the Enduro.
Can someone tell me whats wrong please.
I wore my fr 955 last week and did a 16km run.
Then yesterday i did a 12km run, and right after that the watch said ""this is your longest run.""
Even though its saved last weeks 16km run and all..
Anyone know why it did that ???
I have the garmin 6x solar pro! Nice watch good battery life! But the added solar is negligible!
I am looking into a smartwatch for step count and maybe a few other simple things and I truly like the Fossil brand and the Fossil 6 I was offered the Samsung 5 titanium from T-mobile for a 50% discount for $250 I was told to look at the Garmin 955 and I use my watch for everything light swimming the gym long walks I only take it off at night for sleep from the three I mentioned and for the price range what would you feel is a good choice?? I appreciate any feedback you can offer thank you.
So, a year later now, has Garmin solved the software issues? I have my eyes on it, especially the map functionalities, but that left-swipe problem was a bit of a cold shower.
Those issues have been resolved on 955. Works great
Dave, great summary!
At the same price, would you buy the 955 or standard F7? Thank you
Depends if you want a rugged build or lighter weight watch. I like the 955 but the F7 is a more durable watch.
Thx, mate🎉
Has the firmware upgrade come yet and if it has does the fenix 7 still have the option to scroll on graphs and double click on maps?
Nope, I don't think Garmin considers the 955 flawed so it's unlikely to change.
I bought Fenix 7 Solar today for 650$. I hope it's a good buy, waiting for delivery. Forerunner 955 is a bit cheaper but I like the appearance of Fenix 7 more. I'm not a super big athlete, my goal is to get fitter, so I hope this watch helps me.
The 7 solar is an awesome watch! Enjoy it!
Where did you pick it up for that price?
Although the implementation is OK, I can't help but being put off by these screens now that I've seen an Epix 2/Venu 2 plus. To each their own but I would strongly encourage anyone to check out an epix and a fenix/forerunner side by side in a store before spending $$$. These AMOLED screens are just gorgeous and make the watch such a better experience (imo), better make sure you're not gonna regret getting the old MIP tech. Especially since this is a watch you're going to interact with everyday for the next 4 or 5 years.
OLED is great but it's not great in every use case. MIP displays still have their place when it comes to power consumption, and super bright sun situations. I also find OLED can be a little distracting at times when it "glows" but like you said, to each their own! I like both for different reasons. I don't think MIP is going anywhere.
@@ChaseTheSummit Absolutely. I do see the current situation reverse in the future though. Meaning more SKUs of Epix generation and maybe only 1 size of fenix. Or, if they decide the fenix brand is more valuable, they might just move the oled onto fenix, stop epix and push the enduro as a hardcore outdoor specialist watch. Let's see. I for one am very glad they went the epix route as it makes for a great watch both for outdoor activities and every day life routine.
My fenix 5X plus was straight up hard to read in sunny conditions but I know they improved MIP since. Thanks for your work and great videos!
I believe Fenix 6/7 look cool and might be durable, but the top heavy design is really impractical. It bounces a lot and that decreases the accuracy of measurement. When I was shopping for fenix, I tried 6 and 6s. The 6s is so much more wereable. You can have it on the wrist whole day and night, so you get the full benefits of the Garmin tracking of sleep, stress and recovery. The only downside is lower battery durability, but with 10 days it is still decent.
I like the Epix/F7 design as well but I prefer the lighter weight of the 955.
Thank you 🙏
I have 2 of these 3 devices. Darn you Garmin.
😂
Not a bad problem to have lol.
@@ChaseTheSummit I'm very blessed to be able to afford these devices. Thankfully I'm not a cyclist or I'm sure I'd part with a lot more money.
Thanks for the great videos.
A quick question.
I have Fenix 5 plus for mostly running and golfing. Thinking about buying 955 lighter and longer battery life with better features and cheaper. What do you think? Any suggestions?
great rev as always matt but how do the 955 stack against 945 lte in your opinion ?
The name is Dave! But thanks! The 955 is better in just about every way compared to the 945 LTE but of course it does not have LTE if that's a feature you're interested in!
@@ChaseTheSummit oh sorry my bad dave, thanks for making time to reply 😅
well when you compare data, like heart rate. it's just a tips, dont forget that your heart rate monitor is not really accurate and also there is a program like garmin behind who threat the data so you will get like 5% less accuracy. at the end there is less accuracy so it's really difficult to compare watch programs vs monitor programs without the knowedge of the programs. Best physiologist in the world teach me that.. and it's same for gps, gps will have same accuracy it's just the program who threat the data ! it's simple, take a monitor and use like 5 differents programs like garmin, training peaks, strava.. you will see, you won't get the same heart rate data
GREAT REVIEW was verey helpfuul for me ευχαριστμνω πολι
Thanks!
Can anyone comment on how strong the vibration is on the forerunner 955? I have the Amazfit gtr 4 and it vibrates strong enough to wake me up, but I also had a ticwatch pro 3 and I found the vibration very weak. Thanks.
What about the phone app and the widgets though? Do you need to be able to scroll through the last 24 hours on the watch or can you just look at the last 24 hours on your phone? Personally I would like to just have it work on the watch, but my wife brought this up because it's what her friends do that have Garmin watches (though I don't know which ones they have). If you are in an area with no cell towers can you still see the information from the watch on your phone? Let's say you're going out with your wife to see a movie, are you going to blind and annoy other people in the theater uncontrollably with either of these watches?
Anyone who has had a Fenix 7 for a while, how is the bezel holding up? I just got one and I feel like the smallest thing will scratch the DLC and then it will look like crap bc the raw titanium will be exposed. Whereas the plastic of the 955 won’t show as much.
The metal will always scratch even with DLC. Yes, scratches on plastic are much less obvious. It's personal preference. I personally think a "worn in bezel" looks kind of cool like a vintage patina while others may not be into that look!
There was a great discount on fenix 7. I actually got fenix 7 solar for the price of 955 (because it's just released no discounts yet). I think I will prefer 955 because it's lighter, but I partially solved the problem with nylon band for fenix (6 g instead of original 24 g). Another strange thing, I noticed during run that my heart rate on fenix is around 5 beats lower than usually with 255.
Great deal!
Hi :) where did you buy the lime/yellow bands?? Much Love!!!
Amazon, "ancool" is the brand I use. geni.us/LENAxv
Hi.
I need advice on which watch to choose. Suntoo 9 Peak, Garmin Forerunner 955 or Polar Grit X Pro.
The watch is mainly used for swimming, mountain swimming and sleeping, tape and other monitoring and monitoring tools. What is daily use.
Regards !
Out of those three I'd pick the 955 100% of the time. But that's just my preference.
Question can I put snowmoblie trails onto either watch if so which one do you think would be better for that?
So the most important question for me is this: does 955 have a stock watch face showing altitude 24/7? Or you have to enter abc widget? Cheers! :)
Yep you can set altitude as a data-field on any of the watch faces.
Great work! I swear I saw someone who looks like you in Washington:)
Haven't been to washington recently! I was in California last week though lol.
FYI; 5 ATM = 40 m
What do you think about the 955 as a hiking watch? That's mostly what I want it for. I want the full blown maps for hiking. I know it's advertised as a running watch for the most part. But I'm leaning towards the 955 over the Fenix because of the size and weight. I want to use it as an every day watch as well.
It's a great hiking watch!