Thank-you Dr. Mondello for another insightful look at the disorder inside the Novus Ordo paradigm, this time focusing on 'extraordinary ministers'. While I no longer frequent a N.O. parish, I remember coming fresh into a parish one time, and upon meeting the pastor, the first thing he said was, 'Oh good! We need new extraordinary ministers and lectors.'' Not me!
Dear @paisley293 , What a sad state of affairs ... "we need new extraordinary ministers." ... For what? A dwindling congregation where, sometimes, the number of "EXTRAORDINARY" "Ministers" of the Eucharist are nearly equal to those attending Mass? Indeed, I have even witnessed the priest (now called the "Presider" since Vatican II*) took his "Presider's Chair" and sat back while the (Extraordinary) Eucharistic "Ministers" finished "distributing" Holy Communion. He appeared to be satisfied that he was "equitably sharing" his sacred ministry with the "OTHER" Ministers present who ... "deserved their turn." Such a stultified understanding of the Priesthood of Jesus Christ! Custodiat te Deus *Merriam Webster Dictionary defines "presider" as follows: "to act as president, chairman, or moderator." Not far off the mark for virtually every Novus Ordo parish, yes?
Sidelight on extraordinary ministers: when they first appeared, the excuse was that they were needed because the celebrant didn't have enough time to give Communion to all the faithful. But the time argument is so much nonsense. Much time is wasted in giving Communion to the extraordinary ministers. And a priest giving out Communion on the tongue to kneeling faithful can easily communicate four souls in the time it takes a priest (or an extraordinary minister) to give Communion to one standing person. What I am saying is that the whole extraordinary minister phenomenon should have been recognized very early as a scam, a lie.
The church is a monarchy with Christ as king. I dare not try to usurp His authority. To do so is to be a revolutionary. In fact, V2 was a revolution. Is it any surprise that all of this synodal rubbish is a continuation of that revolution to destroy Christ's church?
Dear @josephwagner3224, Yes ... in very deed: Vatican II was nothing if not a revolution - and every Revolution has its Revolutionaries: in the 1960's it was the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution with Mao Zedong and the Red Guard in Communist China, Castro in Cuba, and "Che" Guevara in South America and Africa. "Progressive" Catholics, in keeping with the times, had, in turn, "Good" John XXIII in Rome with an abundance of clerical and theological proponents of the "Nouvelle théologie," together with Modernism, a healthy does of Marxism, and the Socialization of the Church under every succeeding pontiff. It was as much a radicalization of the Catholic Church as a subversion of it. In its vaunted "throwing open the windows of the Church," John XXIII and Vatican II invited the miasma of the world into it while ejecting the actually faithful out of it. The world and Christ were never on good terms. For that reason, neither are His Faithful welcome in either the world or the Church which embraces the World even as it spurns Christ. Custodiat te Deus
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Thank-you Dr. Mondello for another insightful look at the disorder inside the Novus Ordo paradigm, this time focusing on 'extraordinary ministers'.
While I no longer frequent a N.O. parish, I remember coming fresh into a parish one time, and upon meeting the pastor, the first thing he said was, 'Oh good! We need new extraordinary ministers and lectors.'' Not me!
Dear @paisley293 ,
What a sad state of affairs ... "we need new extraordinary ministers." ...
For what? A dwindling congregation where, sometimes, the number of "EXTRAORDINARY" "Ministers" of the Eucharist are nearly equal to those attending Mass? Indeed, I have even witnessed the priest (now called the "Presider" since Vatican II*) took his "Presider's Chair" and sat back while the (Extraordinary) Eucharistic "Ministers" finished "distributing" Holy Communion. He appeared to be satisfied that he was "equitably sharing" his sacred ministry with the "OTHER" Ministers present who ... "deserved their turn." Such a stultified understanding of the Priesthood of Jesus Christ!
Custodiat te Deus
*Merriam Webster Dictionary defines "presider" as follows: "to act as president, chairman, or moderator." Not far off the mark for virtually every Novus Ordo parish, yes?
Sidelight on extraordinary ministers: when they first appeared, the excuse was that they were needed because the celebrant didn't have enough time to give Communion to all the faithful. But the time argument is so much nonsense. Much time is wasted in giving Communion to the extraordinary ministers. And a priest giving out Communion on the tongue to kneeling faithful can easily communicate four souls in the time it takes a priest (or an extraordinary minister) to give Communion to one standing person.
What I am saying is that the whole extraordinary minister phenomenon should have been recognized very early as a scam, a lie.
The church is a monarchy with Christ as king. I dare not try to usurp His authority. To do so is to be a revolutionary. In fact, V2 was a revolution. Is it any surprise that all of this synodal rubbish is a continuation of that revolution to destroy Christ's church?
Dear @josephwagner3224,
Yes ... in very deed: Vatican II was nothing if not a revolution - and every Revolution has its Revolutionaries: in the 1960's it was the Great Proletarian Cultural Revolution with Mao Zedong and the Red Guard in Communist China, Castro in Cuba, and "Che" Guevara in South America and Africa. "Progressive" Catholics, in keeping with the times, had, in turn, "Good" John XXIII in Rome with an abundance of clerical and theological proponents of the "Nouvelle théologie," together with Modernism, a healthy does of Marxism, and the Socialization of the Church under every succeeding pontiff. It was as much a radicalization of the Catholic Church as a subversion of it. In its vaunted "throwing open the windows of the Church," John XXIII and Vatican II invited the miasma of the world into it while ejecting the actually faithful out of it.
The world and Christ were never on good terms. For that reason, neither are His Faithful welcome in either the world or the Church which embraces the World even as it spurns Christ.
Custodiat te Deus