Yeah, I don't get it. Did he ask for permission? Did he get permission? Did the person or people he asked, have freedom to decline, without being repetitively asked in spite of the declining? If the answer to all three is yes, then I don't get what exactly he did wrong.
he felt morally obligated to say sorry for something he got permission for, because after the fact he realized, "hey, i was in a position of power over this person, what i did probably wasn't right to that other person".
but still.. how are they categorizing what he did as sexual abuse when he asked for permission in the first place... plus I'm pretty sure those women need to redefine sexual misconduct and abuse
@Natrick Vateman that makes him a better and a more sensitive person than most, but that doesn't mean the act itself was criminal or even morally dubious.
as far as i know, there are no charges, he even said himself that at the time he didn't really consider that what he was doing would be wrong. he had a different mentality, he wasnt thinking critically.
He actually didn't do anything wrong. Just very distasteful. In my opinion the proper response is "ew", not "you're a criminal and we all want your career to get destroyed." He didn't force anyone to do anything.
Can I just ask something honestly? How is this sexual misconduct? He asked them and they said yes. They're not children, which means they are capable of making a decision for themselves. If they regretted it afterwards that's a totally different thing, but it's on them. If he did it without asking them before, then this would be a problem, but he never made them do anything they didn't want to do. I'm not trying to be mean, but as a woman I don't understand this. If I don't want something I just say no, I have my own head, no one can psychologically pressure me into doing something I'm uncomfortable with. Physical pressure is a totally different thing., as well as doing something without the other side's consent, but since when is saying yes to seeing a guy's genitals and afterwards complaining about abuse a thing?
SanyaTheShe up until the part where the women tried to leave and he barricaded the door and wouldn’t let them leave until he finished... I’m pretty sure that’s illegal.
SanyaTheShe all youve gotta realize about this is that if Louis was as hot as some other hollywood celeb then none of the girls would even have a problem. they only do this sexual abuse witch hunt against less attractive guys like louis
SanyaTheShe if you are desperate for a job or a position then yes. That would put you in pressure to consent to something that will make you miserable. Why should women endure this life?!
Dee Cee I honestly don't get it to. Like he asked. And then what? Did he locked them up in taht hotel rome? Could they just, like, say "gross" walk and leave?
From what I've heard..... he asked first, the women laughed thinking it was another one of his jokes, and he went on with it and actually did it. Which even if people are joking around, one thing is to say you're going to do something another completely different thing is to actually DO IT. It just shows how he is not self-aware of his actions, at that time. I do give him props for owning it up now and apologizing.
Wait, he asked for consent and received such consent according to his statement. So if this is true, which I am inclined to believe, then the definition of “misconduct” has been drastically expanded.
Part of the legal definition of sexual harassment is defined as: "A victim may consent or agree to certain conduct and actively participate in it even though it is offensive and objectionable. Therefore, sexual conduct is unwelcome whenever the person subjected to it considers it unwelcome." I'll let you figure this out for yourself. I'm sure you can.
Mel Christensen okay so let’s just have a though experiment then- say you hang out with a girl and one thing leads to another and you have sexual relations with her. She agrees to this relation. You go home and life your life. A couple years down the road you get a high profile job and make good money. That girl goes and sues you for “sexual misconduct” ruins your life, you lose your job. Your family. Everything. You think that’s right?
Yes, even 15 yrs later becuase 15 yrs later is not the unwanted part is the speaking out part. Yeah, even 15 yrs later cause it takes time for people to listen, for us to have becoem financially and professionally successful and independent enough to withstand backlashes and career shtdowns. Yes, 15 yrs later cause it is usuaally doen when we are young and don't know better and are vulnerable, confused, afraid, embarased, weak. And in these cases, they actually have been talking for years, some even reported it to superiors. iF YOU WERE MORE INTERESTED in really understanding the case you would have googled and found this instead of being more involved in doubting the victims
Wait, I'm confused. He says he asked before he did it.... So, did they not give consent and then he proceeded any way? Or If they gave consent, Did he actually threaten their careers to get that consent? Or, did they just assume that he would hurt their careers if they turned him down? If he asks first and they give consent, how is it sexual misconduct? The misconduct would happen if he asked, they turned him down and then he actually hurt their careers because of it. That would be misconduct... This just seems like, they're throwing him under the bus because he likes a unusual, sexual thing and he's a big name. Or is he just not allowed to get sexual with anyone within the industry, because he has more power than them?
You can't ask anyone who could gain from it if they consent, and lose from it if they don't, because you are taking advantage of your position, luring people with money and threatening them with punishment. It is an ethics problem.
David Vaughan I like your comment, but I think everybody is forgetting one thing, why now? I know why, but if it was really a big problem for them, they would've made something happened earlier
@@maciek8159 lol - WTF are you asking ME what he did wrong? Louis already told you the answer, son! www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/arts/television/louis-ck-statement.html
Dale Broughton you’re clearly a Trump Sheeple. He has insulted gold star families, veterans with brain cancer, and disabled people. Not to mention all the compulsive lying he does as well his failure to repeal and replace Obamacare on three separate occasions despite the GOP being in full control of the government.
If he wasnt the louis ck that made it big and became a success, these women wouldnt of given it a 2nd thought. If he ended up workin as a cashier in a 1 bed apartment he would of been a joke to laugh at for these women when talkin about embarrasing moments.
I am a male and true victim of sexual misconduct this is my horror story ..............a few years ago when was in a band and touring with them we were doing a gig and there was a women in the crowd who took of her bra and exposed her self to me and others that did Not consent to this when I saw her breast I was shocked and scared and what she did next was much much worst she threw her bra at me and it landed on my face so I ran off the stage and started crying for almost an hour it really tramoutized me I see a therapist twice every week it still hurts but I know it will get better...........I regret that I did not report her
Huge fan of Louis CK and continue to love his work. But ‘consent’ is more complex than an answer of ‘yes’ or even a lack of response, when you’re dealing with positions of power or awe over others. I’m not fully defending the women who have come forward, I think what he’s been through has been excessive, but just trying to give a perspective.
It's not consent if the person feels like they have little or no choice, as louis himself explained "it wasn't a question for them, it was a predicament". They felt they had to
Vault420 no, but that's irrelevant. If they feel like they have to, even if they haven't been outright threatened, they are not freely giving consent, they're giving it because they think something bad might happen otherwise, and consent is only valid if it's freely given. If you know that you have power over somebody and that they might just not want to upset you, then you have to have prove to them that they won't suffer any consequences if they refuse or you just don't put them in that position in the first place
Bambi Your reasoning is not wrong, but at the same time this *should* be distinguished from a person of power actually blackmailing someone or not bothering about getting a consent from the other person at all. This may sound wrong to you, but I think we also have to keep in mind what sort of power it is. It's not like he has power over them physically or even over their whole career. In this specific case, the worst he could do was cancel that contract they were working on, he's not their lifetime job boss. I think those are all details that matter, then add to that the fact that we're not even talking about sexual intercourse but only exposure. So it's "Indecent exposure given under consent that was not actually blackmailed for but for which the girl could have felt compelled to accept since their was a potential predicament". The whole thing just seems to be as minor as it's wrong. And for it to be a scandal definitely excessive.
I'm so sad that the accusations are true but I am also glad that he has owned up to them and taken full responsibility instead of saying "when you're a star they let you do it". I know that must have been hard to do; admitting wrongdoing.
But if he asked them....and they said yes....I mean, it sounds consensual. I’m very conflicted by all these stories of late. Sexual abuse/ harassment has always been to me about forcing the other person to do it, but now it feels like this has changed. I’m 100% against sexual abuse, but people have to be able to try their luck. Is asking a women out gonna be seen as harassment soon?
In a case where someone consented, it'd be for the same reason that you're echoing a male perspective. Google internalised misogyny. Are you seriously unaware of the intimidation factor inherent in the situation? Also, how is it the woman's job to point out that it's wrong to make that proposition in the first place? Have you never been in a situation where you felt like you had no choice but to agree with someone in a position of power?
Yes it already is. You can be immediately terminated for asking a woman out, and she can charge you with sexual harassment and even get a restraining order against you.
Linden Lass If he did it he is a POS. Perhaps he is taking notes ftom experts in lying and manipulation: "Read my lips.. I did not have sexual relations..."
People act like these women were victimised young mindless children!!! They are grown women who HAD A CHOICE!!! If you too starstruck to say no, that is YOUR CHOICE, deal with the consequences!!! It is very unfortunate that Women are using this sexual harrasment thing to harrass men...if they didn't want/like it, they should have screamed and asked for help and call the police, because that's what you ought to do if you don't like something being forcefully done to you
There is a difference there: people are demanding he steps out of show business and takes extensive therapy. It's not really a lapidation case here. People are just asking for predators to be put away from potential prey, not bloodthirsty revenge. Also, I have never harrassed or assaulted, it's just a few people who make life impossible for others.
Aces High he showed he's third leg to some chicks and they were so impressed that they couldn't look at other men. I guess that messed them up I don't know how much more that messed them up since most comedians are messed up by default
As a male sexual harassment survivor, one time a women asked to pull out her boobs in front of me and I didn’t say no and I didn’t say yes either but she did anyways, It scared me for life unfortunately, and to make matters worse she was in a powerful position, she was a manager at a gas station and I was just a regular employee, I meet with a therapist twice a month and am working through it, oh and it really helps to pray to the LORD
Brilliant. I personally think this is the best way to deal with this kind of hipocrisy. Reverse the sexes in a given situation and honestly ask yourself if the reaction would be the same.
daveyork0 The LORD has given me wings and since I have expressed my pain through social media all kinds of doors have opened, suddenly its like everyone knows who I am and because of it, I have prospered I mean, who knows where I will go from here, JESUS!
I know I may be diffrent but I cant imagine myself as being scarred if a woman does that to me. I mean even if she has power over me. If I really don't want to i will just go away
Ain Stolkiner it's 2017! People get offended if you breathe in their direction. All jokes aside, he did do a nasty thing but to be honest, it's nowhere near as big of an issue as some make it look like. Plus, it's a double standard. I'd be uncomfortable if a woman did that in front of me (or a man), but I wouldn't give 2 dimes after a beer and a good night sleep.
This is about power relations, which is what makes what he did so bad. The act itself was certainly bad, but it's the fact that he represented an authority figure to these women that made it as bad as it is. Louie CK seems to realize this, why don't you?
I do not approve of what he did but I respect his honest 'owning up' to his bad choices. trump, Moore, Cosby among others could learn much from this flawed, but responsible man.
Taking the morality out of it, I will never understand how a rich person does something like this to get in trouble when they could EASILY pay someone to do it (watch it).
Reggie Lee sadly, i think what they get off on is having someone who is not expecting the behavior being surprised/ disgusted or of a lower social level , the power involved
Or, maybe just maybe, people get a crush on the people they interact with in their day to day lives and want to have a sexual interaction with them specifically, and no amount of paying prostitutes or spending time with their wife will negate that. If you think that the average guy has not jerked off thinking of at least 2-3 of his female coworkers, then you don't really understand anything about male sexuality.
If blanks don't want to look at my blank, they can blank off. That's what I say. I'm learning later in life that some people need to go blank themselves, and i'll blankingly show them how to do it... without touching them of course. I mean Jesus Blank, I'm not a blanking blank for Blank sakes.
Inappropriate disgusting inexcusable and wrong on every level BUT at least he fessed up to it and owned up to it unlike the other slew of accusations that have surfaced since Weinstein and for owning it alone he deserves some credit. All of the recent deals that fell through and the tarnished reputation and shame he has to live with should be punishment along with the right help I think he’ll be okay compared to the rest
Being an arab it makes me laugh seeing how this whole “me too” phenomenon is shocking Americans, if women in the arab show business reveal the truth about how they get to be treated by movie directors and what not, ppl like louis ck will look so innocent..
He flashed a couple of girls that could have laught and walked away, yet he's being treated and tainted as a worse person than Joseph Fritzl solely because he's famous... wtf is wrong with you people?
His apology and shared explanations are exactly what I would expect from such an insightful thinker and he has my appreciation and gratitude for an apology - more victimizers should follow suite.
Its nice to Know that touching yourself is now a crime. Guys if you do any maturbating. Make sure you lock the door. If anyone spots you. Its off to the Jailhouse
Also, seeing someone's genitalia after giving them consent to show it is a traumatizing, life-changing event to a full-grown woman. I'm glad we have the media to teach us these life lessons.
I don't get this. I'm a female, and I still don't see the problem. It might have ended up being awkward, but now you can't even ASK a woman if she's down for something?? Yeah it might have been crude or awkward for them, but does that constitute harassment or just a guy hoping a chick will say "Sure, why not?" I never side with the dude in these things, but I'm sticking with Louis on this one.
I support Louis CK. I understand why he felt he had to put this out, but it's ridiculous. I hope he sells his next stand up on his site - like he has with previous work. I will buy it. I support this guy. And I denounce this entire attack on this great - if flawed - man.
out of all the responses or lack there of from cosby, trump, o reily, weintstein etc this one takes ownership, addresses the implications, seems heartfelt, and notes what actions he is taking. CK is a very thoughtful person as you can tell from his stand up and this statement reflects that thoughtfulness.
A really heartfelt and thoughtful apology from Louis. I can see it has troubled him a lot. Hope some reconciliation can be achieved across the board, it would be a shame to lose a talent.
Yeah that's what I said essentially. I look up to him morally (except for this) he has such a deep view on life and picks out things others couldn't. So weird that he felt impulses to do that. Still love his work and will always laugh at his old jokes.
you clearly haven't listened to his stanup before then. I'm pretty sure we've all imagined he was a creepy guy for a while. Still don't get what's wrong with it anyway if he asked first..
A heartfelt apology and mature explanation at least, but the damage is done.....why do people do this! Still still not as bad as the president of the united states groping women without concent!
Make no mistake, what he did was wrong. I am so glad he has stepped up and owned it. I believe that because of this that there is hope for him to recover from it. Yes I'm sure he will have consequences for his behavior but he will learn from this and be a better man for it. He is what I consider a true man and many boys will learn how not to behave so inappropriately, at least I hope they do. THANK YOU Louis CK for being honest. You have set a good example sir! !!
To the people saying he did nothing wrong: what he did wrong was he did not understand that if you are in a position of power (like he was a famous comedian) it gets very difficult to deny him his request. This is one of these situations where the "victims" have a right to feel the way they feel about this without people discrediting them. They obviously were not okay afterwards.
While it's horrible that this man committed these acts in the first place, it is commendable that when the accusations finally surfaced, he owned up to it and didn't try to dig his heels in and deny the charges and attack & defame his accusers like some have done (I'm looking at you Trump & Cosby).
Chris Teet the accusations surfaced over five years ago, he’s been denying it for five years. It’s just being put on blast now. No one cared before so, it didn’t make it to tv, it’s been printed before though.
Not being an obvious sociopath would be a start. The density of self reference is beyond any normal rate. This isn't just based on his "Apology". It's all the time.
Jaho Salami sociopath? Have you ever seen him in a talk show? The guy blush about everything, also you need to be sensitive and empathetic to be a comedian. I think he might be kinda autistic in the way many artists are
Even though he knows the punishment does not fit the crime he still takes his time to make a heartfelt apology. Very few celebrities do that, even the more guilty ones.
P, I thought he asked and the women laughed thinking it was another joke from him, but never expected him to ACTUALLY do it.. I don´t think they agreed to it.. it just shows how he is not self-aware of his own actions.
Another Made Up Internet Subculture I makes it somewhat better I believe if he takes responsibility,,it helps,,all 3 of my perpetrators all lied .....but I do get your point 😕
Love you Louis & always will ill support you no matter what your a great guy & everyone makes mistakes! Stay strong man your true fans will stick with you & support you forever!
like why do women wait like 15 years to say this if it bothered them so much?? just to get some fame at someone elses expense. All they had to do is say no then it wouldent have happened and would be consensual. also why did they say before they were afraid to talk because" it would hurt their careers???" this is back when he wasent famous at all. do you see
No dice, sadly. Part of what he's being strung up for is asking people who then declined. Just sexually propositioning a colleague is enough to be treated like a monster if you become rich and famous a decade later, apparently.
women wait 15 years because they are ashamed - they think it might have been their faults - and maybe they did like the man - just not that much, not that way, not that soon -
the disturbing part is the hypocricy of people. all people at some point in their lives - were jerks. if you werent i think youre a robot. the fact is, we love seeing succesful people get burned cuz then we feel at evens with them.
humbled him, haha. this has totally wrecked his career, it's not nearly as bad as Cosby, but it might as well be - the guy will never work in entertainment again. I hope he had some savings, lol.
Louis CK was the king of sexual misconduct and every other type of misconduct under the sun. That's what made him . The problem was he couldn't keep it regulated to the stage.
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But he asked for permission...
Yeah, I don't get it. Did he ask for permission? Did he get permission? Did the person or people he asked, have freedom to decline, without being repetitively asked in spite of the declining?
If the answer to all three is yes, then I don't get what exactly he did wrong.
he felt morally obligated to say sorry for something he got permission for, because after the fact he realized, "hey, i was in a position of power over this person, what i did probably wasn't right to that other person".
but still.. how are they categorizing what he did as sexual abuse when he asked for permission in the first place... plus I'm pretty sure those women need to redefine sexual misconduct and abuse
@Natrick Vateman
that makes him a better and a more sensitive person than most, but that doesn't mean the act itself was criminal or even morally dubious.
as far as i know, there are no charges, he even said himself that at the time he didn't really consider that what he was doing would be wrong. he had a different mentality, he wasnt thinking critically.
He actually didn't do anything wrong. Just very distasteful. In my opinion the proper response is "ew", not "you're a criminal and we all want your career to get destroyed." He didn't force anyone to do anything.
nyk31 exactly
Agree
Agreed
also agreed
The vile feminist media can't just go "ew" on something like this, I don't know which planet you're living on.
Can I just ask something honestly? How is this sexual misconduct? He asked them and they said yes. They're not children, which means they are capable of making a decision for themselves. If they regretted it afterwards that's a totally different thing, but it's on them. If he did it without asking them before, then this would be a problem, but he never made them do anything they didn't want to do. I'm not trying to be mean, but as a woman I don't understand this. If I don't want something I just say no, I have my own head, no one can psychologically pressure me into doing something I'm uncomfortable with. Physical pressure is a totally different thing., as well as doing something without the other side's consent, but since when is saying yes to seeing a guy's genitals and afterwards complaining about abuse a thing?
SanyaTheShe up until the part where the women tried to leave and he barricaded the door and wouldn’t let them leave until he finished... I’m pretty sure that’s illegal.
Alright, I didn't read that part...that is sick.
SanyaTheShe all youve gotta realize about this is that if Louis was as hot as some other hollywood celeb then none of the girls would even have a problem. they only do this sexual abuse witch hunt against less attractive guys like louis
um, ya that part as it turns out was total B.S.
SanyaTheShe if you are desperate for a job or a position then yes. That would put you in pressure to consent to something that will make you miserable. Why should women endure this life?!
So he asked first?
Dee Cee I honestly don't get it to. Like he asked. And then what? Did he locked them up in taht hotel rome? Could they just, like, say "gross" walk and leave?
+nesa1126 "when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your d-k isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. - Louis CK
Chris Ruiz you can, but there's still a predicament
Zachery Hawkling what you just said reminded me about the "implication" from its Always Sunny. Lol
From what I've heard..... he asked first, the women laughed thinking it was another one of his jokes, and he went on with it and actually did it. Which even if people are joking around, one thing is to say you're going to do something another completely different thing is to actually DO IT. It just shows how he is not self-aware of his actions, at that time. I do give him props for owning it up now and apologizing.
Wait, he asked for consent and received such consent according to his statement. So if this is true, which I am inclined to believe, then the definition of “misconduct” has been drastically expanded.
Part of the legal definition of sexual harassment is defined as:
"A victim may consent or agree to certain conduct and actively participate in it even
though it is offensive and objectionable. Therefore, sexual conduct is unwelcome
whenever the person subjected to it considers it unwelcome."
I'll let you figure this out for yourself. I'm sure you can.
Mel Christensen okay so let’s just have a though experiment then- say you hang out with a girl and one thing leads to another and you have sexual relations with her. She agrees to this relation. You go home and life your life. A couple years down the road you get a high profile job and make good money. That girl goes and sues you for “sexual misconduct” ruins your life, you lose your job. Your family. Everything. You think that’s right?
Louis CK admitted he did all those things. He's not denying anything.
+Kyle Kelliher "when you have power over another person, asking them to look at your d-k isn’t a question. It’s a predicament for them. - Louis CK
Yes, even 15 yrs later becuase 15 yrs later is not the unwanted part is the speaking out part. Yeah, even 15 yrs later cause it takes time for people to listen, for us to have becoem financially and professionally successful and independent enough to withstand backlashes and career shtdowns. Yes, 15 yrs later cause it is usuaally doen when we are young and don't know better and are vulnerable, confused, afraid, embarased, weak. And in these cases, they actually have been talking for years, some even reported it to superiors. iF YOU WERE MORE INTERESTED in really understanding the case you would have googled and found this instead of being more involved in doubting the victims
It's a better response than "Fake News" and "It was only locker-room talk".
yes!
OF COURSE they are trying to minimze damage. What do you want them to do?
Maximize it?
This comment needs exponentially more likes.
you have to be real sick to do what he did
Leave it to a brainwashed leftist to turn Louis C.K.'s sexual perversions into an opportunity to whine about Trump.
Wait, I'm confused. He says he asked before he did it.... So, did they not give consent and then he proceeded any way? Or If they gave consent, Did he actually threaten their careers to get that consent? Or, did they just assume that he would hurt their careers if they turned him down?
If he asks first and they give consent, how is it sexual misconduct? The misconduct would happen if he asked, they turned him down and then he actually hurt their careers because of it. That would be misconduct... This just seems like, they're throwing him under the bus because he likes a unusual, sexual thing and he's a big name. Or is he just not allowed to get sexual with anyone within the industry, because he has more power than them?
Asking the real questions here.
You can't ask anyone who could gain from it if they consent, and lose from it if they don't, because you are taking advantage of your position, luring people with money and threatening them with punishment. It is an ethics problem.
E'raan Lue You just fully and completely described Hollywood.
The two girls in the hotel room didn’t respond, and he started. One woman gave consent. One woman turned him down, and he moved on.
David Vaughan I like your comment, but I think everybody is forgetting one thing, why now? I know why, but if it was really a big problem for them, they would've made something happened earlier
Refreshing to see someone actually take responsibility for their actions
Gotta hand it to him.. wait, he handed it himself.
blackandgreyfox still a bad thing to do
It is a horrid thing but I do like that he seems to be taking responsibility.
I say "seems" with hope for the best...
Yes but, what if it never came out, would he have admitted it ?
louis did nothing wrong, wtf is wrong with people these days? does consent mean nothing anymore?
Louis disagrees with you
@@temsedgwick9494 he's welcome to
@@temsedgwick9494 he did nothing wrong. Please explain what he did wrong...what he did was weird but he asked permission and they consented
@@maciek8159 lol - WTF are you asking ME what he did wrong? Louis already told you the answer, son! www.nytimes.com/2017/11/10/arts/television/louis-ck-statement.html
When a comedian can apologize to women better than a president the world we live in.
Nico Martinez great observation
Apologies was for Obama. Super Trump is here.
WTF? Nico you are a Moron.. Trump doesn't have anything to apologize for.. clearly you are a CNN Sheeple
"I did not have sexual relations with that woman".
Dale Broughton you’re clearly a Trump Sheeple. He has insulted gold star families, veterans with brain cancer, and disabled people. Not to mention all the compulsive lying he does as well his failure to repeal and replace Obamacare on three separate occasions despite the GOP being in full control of the government.
That's fine. Now do another comedy special for us because you're f****** hilarious.
He says he's gone take a 'long time' away...idk maybe he'll resurface in 2027
YEEESSSS HE. IS. A. GREAT MAN.
SixOfNine, no he is not, actually he never was that much funny, bill burr is better
Both are hilarious in different ways. Personally, I agree that Burr is better.
Just personal preference. Getting tired of Louis' constant material about his kids and what not.
Totally owned it. Good on him. Admitting wrongdoing is rare.
Pia Rossi the only reason why he owned up to it was because he got caught
It doesn't make it better
And what would the charges be?
Mickael Chiasson you act like he committed a crime. there was consent, perfectly legal. whether it was ethical is the problem here.
uh wot yeah, cause what Roy Moore did is just wonderful.
At the Oscars, there’s going to be a new category: “Best Actor who’s movies we can’t watch anymore”
this is a very clever comment
You got that joke from the late night show. Don't steal jokes for likes
@@ultimateawseome He ain't no comedian... it's no big deal
If he wasnt the louis ck that made it big and became a success, these women wouldnt of given it a 2nd thought. If he ended up workin as a cashier in a 1 bed apartment he would of been a joke to laugh at for these women when talkin about embarrasing moments.
Exactly
@@emilgoubasarian9822 Absolutely.
If he was a cashier, who would they tell? The local news?
I am a male and true victim of sexual misconduct this is my horror story ..............a few years ago when was in a band and touring with them we were doing a gig and there was a women in the crowd who took of her bra and exposed her self to me and others that did Not consent to this when I saw her breast I was shocked and scared and what she did next was much much worst she threw her bra at me and it landed on my face so I ran off the stage and started crying for almost an hour it really tramoutized me I see a therapist twice every week it still hurts but I know it will get better...........I regret that I did not report her
Ok. This is a phoney story.
God your so sheltered if you think that’s sexual misconduct 😂😂
@@midheelwhip or are you just to dumb to understand this is satire?😂
These are adult women we are talking about. They consented. He doesn't owe the world an apology.
Exactly the women werent forced thay consented because they thought they would be rewarded and when they werent they called it "sexual misconduct"
Why tho??
Huge fan of Louis CK and continue to love his work. But ‘consent’ is more complex than an answer of ‘yes’ or even a lack of response, when you’re dealing with positions of power or awe over others. I’m not fully defending the women who have come forward, I think what he’s been through has been excessive, but just trying to give a perspective.
Why aren't our politicians held to the same standards when it comes to outrage and accountability.
Louis didn't really do anything wrong
Consent is more complex than a yes. But still, it was really distasteful.
You are the best louis C.K
Wtf
There was no sexual misconduct? She gave consent
It's not consent if the person feels like they have little or no choice, as louis himself explained "it wasn't a question for them, it was a predicament". They felt they had to
Bambi Bambi But they didn't have too. He didn't blackmail, or threaten them in anyway. It was consent. It was a predicament they agreed too.
Vault420 no, but that's irrelevant. If they feel like they have to, even if they haven't been outright threatened, they are not freely giving consent, they're giving it because they think something bad might happen otherwise, and consent is only valid if it's freely given. If you know that you have power over somebody and that they might just not want to upset you, then you have to have prove to them that they won't suffer any consequences if they refuse or you just don't put them in that position in the first place
Bambi Your reasoning is not wrong, but at the same time this *should* be distinguished from a person of power actually blackmailing someone or not bothering about getting a consent from the other person at all. This may sound wrong to you, but I think we also have to keep in mind what sort of power it is. It's not like he has power over them physically or even over their whole career. In this specific case, the worst he could do was cancel that contract they were working on, he's not their lifetime job boss. I think those are all details that matter, then add to that the fact that we're not even talking about sexual intercourse but only exposure.
So it's "Indecent exposure given under consent that was not actually blackmailed for but for which the girl could have felt compelled to accept since their was a potential predicament". The whole thing just seems to be as minor as it's wrong. And for it to be a scandal definitely excessive.
Hes a perv but still a good guy
I'm so sad that the accusations are true but I am also glad that he has owned up to them and taken full responsibility instead of saying "when you're a star they let you do it". I know that must have been hard to do; admitting wrongdoing.
K E not even wrong doing.
That's basically what he DID say. And he's right, too.
Why would you be glad the accusations are true? You seem fairly funked up yourself.
But if he asked them....and they said yes....I mean, it sounds consensual. I’m very conflicted by all these stories of late. Sexual abuse/ harassment has always been to me about forcing the other person to do it, but now it feels like this has changed. I’m 100% against sexual abuse, but people have to be able to try their luck. Is asking a women out gonna be seen as harassment soon?
*Kate Steventon* the women already said that they didn't say yes and Louis has not said that they did.
In France, asking a women for her phone number in public may become illegal, the man fined a hefty amount . I'm not kidding...
Eso es MENTIRA ¡¡¡¡¡
In a case where someone consented, it'd be for the same reason that you're echoing a male perspective. Google internalised misogyny.
Are you seriously unaware of the intimidation factor inherent in the situation? Also, how is it the woman's job to point out that it's wrong to make that proposition in the first place?
Have you never been in a situation where you felt like you had no choice but to agree with someone in a position of power?
Yes it already is. You can be immediately terminated for asking a woman out, and she can charge you with sexual harassment and even get a restraining order against you.
Wow, excellent apology, contrast that with roy moore.
and with weinstein's excuses.
Nathan Grant or spacey's
uh wot, where's your indignation when it comes to Trump's behavior?
Linden Lass If he did it he is a POS.
Perhaps he is taking notes ftom experts in lying and manipulation: "Read my lips.. I did not have sexual relations..."
Louis is an admitted degenerate. Judge Moore, subject of spurious sleaze campaign orchestrated by swamp creatures. YUUUGE difference.
People act like these women were victimised young mindless children!!! They are grown women who HAD A CHOICE!!! If you too starstruck to say no, that is YOUR CHOICE, deal with the consequences!!! It is very unfortunate that Women are using this sexual harrasment thing to harrass men...if they didn't want/like it, they should have screamed and asked for help and call the police, because that's what you ought to do if you don't like something being forcefully done to you
Let him who is without sin cast the first stone.
I never sexually assaulted anyone...so, where are the stones?
khakhashi Sam - He.
There is a better way to get stoned.
Daniela dos Santos Silva Neither did him.
There is a difference there: people are demanding he steps out of show business and takes extensive therapy. It's not really a lapidation case here. People are just asking for predators to be put away from potential prey, not bloodthirsty revenge.
Also, I have never harrassed or assaulted, it's just a few people who make life impossible for others.
Americans are weird. He asked...and none of them said "No"... I don't understand.
So what did he do wrong again
Aces High he showed he's third leg to some chicks and they were so impressed that they couldn't look at other men. I guess that messed them up
I don't know how much more that messed them up since most comedians are messed up by default
He wielded his blank.
Sounds incelly
He had power, and he wielded that power in front of them.
As He-man used to say: I've got the power!!!!
Still waiting on the backlash on Trump and Moore. Anyday now. Anyday now.
WanderingTaoist101 Don't hold your breath! You won't look good in that shade of blue.
I love you Louie you have a long road ahead but you made the right first step.
He might as well build a house on the side of That road, because to Hollywood, he will be on that road for the rest of his life.
Nah he is done, its will never leave him, in these days people are so pc that he will disapear for at least a few years.
That’s gota be one of the realist, most- heartfelt and realized apologies we may ever hear 😌
Imagine telling a dude yes and then freaking out when it actually happens
As a male sexual harassment survivor, one time a women asked to pull out her boobs in front of me and I didn’t say no and I didn’t say yes either but she did anyways, It scared me for life unfortunately, and to make matters worse she was in a powerful position, she was a manager at a gas station and I was just a regular employee, I meet with a therapist twice a month and am working through it, oh and it really helps to pray to the LORD
KarmaMacchiato 😂
Brilliant. I personally think this is the best way to deal with this kind of hipocrisy. Reverse the sexes in a given situation and honestly ask yourself if the reaction would be the same.
Stay strong and strive for closure m'bro. Time heals.
daveyork0 The LORD has given me wings and since I have expressed my pain through social media all kinds of doors have opened, suddenly its like everyone knows who I am and because of it, I have prospered I mean, who knows where I will go from here, JESUS!
I know I may be diffrent but I cant imagine myself as being scarred if a woman does that to me. I mean even if she has power over me. If I really don't want to i will just go away
honestly i think he handled this the best way possible
That’s what she said!
Literally ( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
Why are people so sexually ofendable?
Ain Stolkiner it's 2017! People get offended if you breathe in their direction. All jokes aside, he did do a nasty thing but to be honest, it's nowhere near as big of an issue as some make it look like. Plus, it's a double standard. I'd be uncomfortable if a woman did that in front of me (or a man), but I wouldn't give 2 dimes after a beer and a good night sleep.
We agree 100%
Andrei Agulescu did you just make a joke about breathing? #reported
This is about power relations, which is what makes what he did so bad. The act itself was certainly bad, but it's the fact that he represented an authority figure to these women that made it as bad as it is. Louie CK seems to realize this, why don't you?
Mitjell K he did what his lawyer told him to do
Sad and appalling to hear what Louie has done to these women, but I'm gonna give him props for manning up and taking responsibility for his actions.
I gotta Salute u for manning up ....
Ummm what he did wasn’t that bad so I’ll give him a pass
I do not approve of what he did but I respect his honest 'owning up' to his bad choices. trump, Moore, Cosby among others could learn much from this flawed, but responsible man.
The woman should go to jail for false accusations.
Taking the morality out of it, I will never understand how a rich person does something like this to get in trouble when they could EASILY pay someone to do it (watch it).
Reggie Lee sadly, i think what they get off on is having someone who is not expecting the behavior being surprised/ disgusted or of a lower social level , the power involved
That's pretty much exactly how it works. It's part power-trip, part shocking the victim and then getting away with it. You hit the nail on the head.
Or, maybe just maybe, people get a crush on the people they interact with in their day to day lives and want to have a sexual interaction with them specifically, and no amount of paying prostitutes or spending time with their wife will negate that.
If you think that the average guy has not jerked off thinking of at least 2-3 of his female coworkers, then you don't really understand anything about male sexuality.
Gregtom2, agreed BBBBBBUUUUUTTTTT they do this at home alone, not in front of the coworker.
Oh, and tell me about male sexuality
If blanks don't want to look at my blank, they can blank off. That's what I say. I'm learning later in life that some people need to go blank themselves, and i'll blankingly show them how to do it... without touching them of course. I mean Jesus Blank, I'm not a blanking blank for Blank sakes.
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Blank you for that comment
Inappropriate disgusting inexcusable and wrong on every level BUT at least he fessed up to it and owned up to it unlike the other slew of accusations that have surfaced since Weinstein and for owning it alone he deserves some credit. All of the recent deals that fell through and the tarnished reputation and shame he has to live with should be punishment along with the right help I think he’ll be okay compared to the rest
What was so wrong about it, again?
RealTomato Ketchup,Eddie? He’s the gentlemen’s sexual harasser lol
He apologized years ago to these women before he had to.
Dork Born his dogs name is Trump? Small world...
RealTomato Ketchup,Eddie? And that makes it ok?
It's terrible that it happened. I'm glad he made a sincere and impressive apology.
There's something horribly wrong about a dating ap advertising on this article. WTF?
RUclips Red, I wouldn't know
Being an arab it makes me laugh seeing how this whole “me too” phenomenon is shocking Americans, if women in the arab show business reveal the truth about how they get to be treated by movie directors and what not, ppl like louis ck will look so innocent..
So you're ok. With forcing yourself or any man on a woman 👠 pal just cause you feel it is your god given duty? Now we see 🙈
That was a pretty good admission statement and apology.
We still love you Louie. That was an incredible statement!
He was wrongly pressured into this apology by the mainstream media. He had consent from the women. #freeLouisCK
He flashed a couple of girls that could have laught and walked away, yet he's being treated and tainted as a worse person than Joseph Fritzl solely because he's famous... wtf is wrong with you people?
The apology seemed heartfelt and genuine. I don't think I'm gonna stop becoming a fan of his comedy because I believe he's really a good man.
His apology and shared explanations are exactly what I would expect from such an insightful thinker and he has my appreciation and gratitude for an apology - more victimizers should follow suite.
Its nice to Know that touching yourself is now a crime. Guys if you do any maturbating. Make sure you lock the door. If anyone spots you. Its off to the Jailhouse
Us guys already knew to lock the door.....
Also, seeing someone's genitalia after giving them consent to show it is a traumatizing, life-changing event to a full-grown woman. I'm glad we have the media to teach us these life lessons.
The Snake Decides Their was never consent he literally blocked the door
it makes me sad...but I think it is very good that he confronts the situation truthfully
She gave consent. These are grown adults not children. They can make decisions for themselves.
First MSNBC video I've ever appreciated.
I don't get this. I'm a female, and I still don't see the problem. It might have ended up being awkward, but now you can't even ASK a woman if she's down for something?? Yeah it might have been crude or awkward for them, but does that constitute harassment or just a guy hoping a chick will say "Sure, why not?" I never side with the dude in these things, but I'm sticking with Louis on this one.
His response sounded like an awards ceremony speech. Like "thanks to these people for making my career possible this far, I'm out".
I support Louis CK. I understand why he felt he had to put this out, but it's ridiculous. I hope he sells his next stand up on his site - like he has with previous work. I will buy it. I support this guy. And I denounce this entire attack on this great - if flawed - man.
TheRamsesII I'm with you. His actions may be wrong but and honest and human man is behind it.
he's going to listen now, a long time
I said "hi" to a woman back in 1995. I was a little kid at the time, but I hope it doesn't come back to haunt me.
Lol it sounds like" with great power comes great responsibility" never knew he was Spiderman
"It's not about the evil we do. It's about what we do about the evil we do." -- RHM --
Finally, someone who owns up to their action. Now lets see if anyone will come out before allegations about themselves.
He didn’t do anything wrong to begin with
LOUIE CK RULES
out of all the responses or lack there of from cosby, trump, o reily, weintstein etc this one takes ownership, addresses the implications, seems heartfelt, and notes what actions he is taking. CK is a very thoughtful person as you can tell from his stand up and this statement reflects that thoughtfulness.
A really heartfelt and thoughtful apology from Louis. I can see it has troubled him a lot. Hope some reconciliation can be achieved across the board, it would be a shame to lose a talent.
God damnit, Louis...
The most suitable response to this.
Yeah that's what I said essentially. I look up to him morally (except for this) he has such a deep view on life and picks out things others couldn't. So weird that he felt impulses to do that. Still love his work and will always laugh at his old jokes.
you clearly haven't listened to his stanup before then. I'm pretty sure we've all imagined he was a creepy guy for a while. Still don't get what's wrong with it anyway if he asked first..
Well, at least we still have Bill Burr.
Louis C.K. is one of the best...hopefully this will add more material for him in the future
Woow these poor women must be so emotionally destroyed
NOT!
Wow only a man can say such an insensitive thing.
@Tengericsillag
So you're saying I am a man?
Well identify as a proud and independent woman!
smh don't just assume people's gender. It's 2018 now
Tengericsillag dont assume genders smfh bigot
Tengericsillag only a woman could be that touchy
So after denying the allegations for years, he finally confessed. What a hero.
A heartfelt apology and mature explanation at least, but the damage is done.....why do people do this! Still still not as bad as the president of the united states groping women without concent!
Louis CK - You put the "Stand-up", in stand-up comedy!
Make no mistake, what he did was wrong. I am so glad he has stepped up and owned it. I believe that because of this that there is hope for him to recover from it. Yes I'm sure he will have consequences for his behavior but he will learn from this and be a better man for it. He is what I consider a true man and many boys will learn how not to behave so inappropriately, at least I hope they do. THANK YOU Louis CK for being honest. You have set a good example sir! !!
April Osen this all fake and phony. This is a big distraction so that means some big event is going to happen soon.
i think april means his career and i REALLY doubt that his career will take a big blow from that anyway. Btw bob Rob go to your flat earth videos
Imagine having to publicly explain and apologize for a victimless awkward sexual encounter.
"He who has no dogshit on his sneakers can take the first step on The White Rug."
+shiva1008 I don't have any dogshit on my sneakers. I walk all over The White Rug.
lmao
To the people saying he did nothing wrong: what he did wrong was he did not understand that if you are in a position of power (like he was a famous comedian) it gets very difficult to deny him his request. This is one of these situations where the "victims" have a right to feel the way they feel about this without people discrediting them. They obviously were not okay afterwards.
While it's horrible that this man committed these acts in the first place, it is commendable that when the accusations finally surfaced, he owned up to it and didn't try to dig his heels in and deny the charges and attack & defame his accusers like some have done (I'm looking at you Trump & Cosby).
Chris Teet the accusations surfaced over five years ago, he’s been denying it for five years. It’s just being put on blast now. No one cared before so, it didn’t make it to tv, it’s been printed before though.
I've never liked Louis, the recent news didn't help, but today I have a sliver of respect for the man. Build on that foundation.
"I, I'd, I've, me, my, myself, mine." - Louis C.K.
Well... he was talking about his actions.
Jaho Salami what do you want him to do? Speak third person like Ricky Henderson....?
Not being an obvious sociopath would be a start. The density of self reference is beyond any normal rate.
This isn't just based on his "Apology". It's all the time.
Jaho Salami sociopath? Have you ever seen him in a talk show? The guy blush about everything, also you need to be sensitive and empathetic to be a comedian. I think he might be kinda autistic in the way many artists are
Even though he knows the punishment does not fit the crime he still takes his time to make a heartfelt apology. Very few celebrities do that, even the more guilty ones.
I still love the guy
finkertoodle 😂😂😂 u a femenist?
cullrapists bruh lol
I wonder how many people believe in giving someone a second chance when they apologize for screwing up?
So, he tried to get laid? Big deal.
Aaron Skidog - That is not what he said in his statement. Were you listening or just making idiotic statements.
Aaron Skidog he locked a girl in a room and jerked off at her..
P, I thought he asked and the women laughed thinking it was another joke from him, but never expected him to ACTUALLY do it.. I don´t think they agreed to it.. it just shows how he is not self-aware of his own actions.
P when they tried to leave he barricaded the door so they couldn’t leave till he finished.
Mark Mirabella lol at her.sounds dangerous.
Louis. I never ever cared. You should never ever have been gone.
Human beings being human.... which of course is always disappointing.
Please don't quit Louis!!!!
i bet his wife is pleased
Yep she is rich
Good on Louis... the truth will set him free.
Thanks for your honesty....that goes a long way👏👏👏
Another Made Up Internet Subculture I makes it somewhat better I believe if he takes responsibility,,it helps,,all 3 of my perpetrators all lied .....but I do get your point 😕
you can't fault the guy for his honesty. He deserves respect for that at least.
statistically, I wonder how many times this worked out for him.
"The naked man" works 2 out of 3 times. we still need data for the "wana watch me jerk it?" routine to establish it's potency
Love you Louis & always will ill support you no matter what your a great guy & everyone makes mistakes! Stay strong man your true fans will stick with you & support you forever!
like why do women wait like 15 years to say this if it bothered them so much?? just to get some fame at someone elses expense. All they had to do is say no then it wouldent have happened and would be consensual. also why did they say before they were afraid to talk because" it would hurt their careers???" this is back when he wasent famous at all. do you see
No dice, sadly. Part of what he's being strung up for is asking people who then declined. Just sexually propositioning a colleague is enough to be treated like a monster if you become rich and famous a decade later, apparently.
It's all fake and phony. This is all a big distraction. Something big is gonna happen.
+Ohio Girl What specifically are you referring to? The Kevin Spacey situation?
women wait 15 years because they are ashamed - they think it might have been their faults - and maybe they did like the man - just not that much, not that way, not that soon -
seriously what are you referring to?
the disturbing part is the hypocricy of people.
all people at some point in their lives - were jerks. if you werent i think youre a robot.
the fact is, we love seeing succesful people get burned cuz then we feel at evens with them.
This has humbled him and I hope others can be compassionate towards him.
humbled him, haha. this has totally wrecked his career, it's not nearly as bad as Cosby, but it might as well be - the guy will never work in entertainment again. I hope he had some savings, lol.
SausosiosIsrugos Probably right. 😞
yeah right, a deviant is always a deviant. People like that don't change.
Yo Bro Your self-righteousness is conveniently hiding behind labels from what I gather. Pride comes before a fall. Take it or leave it.
What it has taught him is that American women are the enemy of all free men.
Oh dear, here we are.
Louis CK was the king of sexual misconduct and every other type of misconduct under the sun. That's what made him .
The problem was he couldn't keep it regulated to the stage.
What a beautifully hacky synopsis. Are you ironing out a voice-over for the movie trailer?
Cool music, by the way.
He is the only one of these men that has acknowledged what he did and apologized in what seems to be a sincere way.
For anyone wondering, Louis CK is now living his life as a straight man...
wasn't he always straight?
it's like "our consent doesn't mean anything when you are in a position of power, we gave consent by intimidation of the position of power you hold"