My favorite for orc vs ne is just getting a few demolishers and zeppelins to keep repositioning them backwards, kiting endlessly. The siege aoe dps + burning oil completely hoses bears, dryads and DoTT alike and all NE can do is try to keep overrunning you and moving to avoid shots, but that's why you have bestiaries (also prevents them going hippos) and it definitely pairs well with forcing fights in static areas like serpent wards, towering or just slapping the demos on their expo.
Night elves have very accessible and relatively easy to use things like roots and staff that give an immediate noticeable effect on the selected unit. You catch some unit with roots - that's it, he's done. It's very difficult to save some unfortunate headhunter from focused fire under the roots, and unlike hex or ensnare, it also does its own damage. You see one of yours on his last breath - you teleport him to base. Again, it is difficult to prevent this. It's a bit op and annoying. Tools that allow you to bind or rescue someone are some of the most useful in Warcraft - and it's OP that elves have access to the best versions of both.
don't humans have something that allows them to teleport a unit to base and they're stunned until they fully heal but yea, staff of preservation and staff of sanctuary if those are their names, seem pretty powerful if you lose a unit, and you have lots of moonwell stuff available, then it's like getting a free unit back. I might be looking at outdated prices, but if an archer costs 135 gold, and the staff of preservation is 150 gold, and the moonwells are full, then the staff basically paid for itself from saving the one archer
@@justanobody0human one costs more and higher cd also stuns the unit untill fully healed. Double staff of preservation been broken for more than 15 years for elf. Speed scroll is not even comparable. Blizzard is a joke at balancing.
orc heal over 45 seconds: is interrupted by damage, costs 100 gold, consumed on use & 60 second cooldown between a charge being available for purchase. NE instant heal to full (lands them in a pile of moonwells): can't be interrupted, permanent item, you can get up to 4, 30 second cooldown on each (7 second cooldown once u have them all) sure the wand costs 50 gold more but you've recouped that cost within 30 seconds of buying it. as an experiment they should put out PTR patch notes saying they're going to add the staff of preservation to the neutral item shop & then document how many NE players who insist the item is balanced get mad about the idea of other players having it
Let's not speak about Blade Master's insane OP ways vs NE. There is a reason NE has these tools. They are the weakest units in Tier1. And Orc harras with BM is brutal. As a NE noob, I have special hatred towards Orc early harras.
Is massing grunts and raiders (no lodge or totem) realistic for a tier2 timing attack? Think fast tech with no barracks before tech then barracks after tech into double bestiary. Or perhals even 2 rax and 1 bestiary. Yay or nay?
I just thought of something with all the bear eating Kodoa, what happens to a unit that gets eaten by a kodo that has doom on it? Couldn't prolong the multiple doomguard challenge?
17:20 here*. I know it has no honour doing it but you should k8ill your low hp units here. Giving demon hunter easy levels in the next fight. You had more money, and good production so i dont see why keeping them alive. Taking pop over 80.
Grubby is grinding continuously, averaging 3000 apm 7 days a week rank ONE for all races (not undead) he doesn’t miss and when he sleeps he averages 2000 apm in his dreams, these stats cannot be slept upon and so no raraland for grubby.
"grubby: you could say anything" "I was so worried when chat was added" ....haha what was this man saying back in the day. Be proud young Grub, you were there in the glory days, not this sanitized filth.
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Grubby not quitting the game before killing the Demon hunter. What a psychopath.
😂
The amount of time dh got staffed back to come back with full health justifies that. After a while this gets really frustrating 😅
@@AimlessWeekblizzard devs are gibbons
Oh, the most unfair hero in the game. He deserves it!
@@Warcraft3BRmore of a staff of preservation issue
O-('-'Q)
damn little guy is swingin
dukes up
O-('-'Q)
My favorite for orc vs ne is just getting a few demolishers and zeppelins to keep repositioning them backwards, kiting endlessly. The siege aoe dps + burning oil completely hoses bears, dryads and DoTT alike and all NE can do is try to keep overrunning you and moving to avoid shots, but that's why you have bestiaries (also prevents them going hippos) and it definitely pairs well with forcing fights in static areas like serpent wards, towering or just slapping the demos on their expo.
Hmmmm. ensnare + demolishers. Sounds fun.
Maybe in bronze.
Bro this isn't sc2 protoss immortal micro
@@zachariastsampasidis8880 pretty much exactly how it works though. 4 seconds between shots, can pick up / drop instantly and avoid all damage.
Nice to see a pro Brazilian, vamo pato!
Night elves have very accessible and relatively easy to use things like roots and staff that give an immediate noticeable effect on the selected unit. You catch some unit with roots - that's it, he's done. It's very difficult to save some unfortunate headhunter from focused fire under the roots, and unlike hex or ensnare, it also does its own damage. You see one of yours on his last breath - you teleport him to base. Again, it is difficult to prevent this.
It's a bit op and annoying. Tools that allow you to bind or rescue someone are some of the most useful in Warcraft - and it's OP that elves have access to the best versions of both.
don't humans have something that allows them to teleport a unit to base and they're stunned until they fully heal
but yea, staff of preservation and staff of sanctuary if those are their names, seem pretty powerful
if you lose a unit, and you have lots of moonwell stuff available, then it's like getting a free unit back.
I might be looking at outdated prices, but if an archer costs 135 gold, and the staff of preservation is 150 gold, and the moonwells are full, then the staff basically paid for itself from saving the one archer
@@justanobody0human one costs more and higher cd also stuns the unit untill fully healed.
Double staff of preservation been broken for more than 15 years for elf. Speed scroll is not even comparable. Blizzard is a joke at balancing.
orc heal over 45 seconds: is interrupted by damage, costs 100 gold, consumed on use & 60 second cooldown between a charge being available for purchase.
NE instant heal to full (lands them in a pile of moonwells): can't be interrupted, permanent item, you can get up to 4, 30 second cooldown on each (7 second cooldown once u have them all)
sure the wand costs 50 gold more but you've recouped that cost within 30 seconds of buying it. as an experiment they should put out PTR patch notes saying they're going to add the staff of preservation to the neutral item shop & then document how many NE players who insist the item is balanced get mad about the idea of other players having it
Let's not speak about Blade Master's insane OP ways vs NE. There is a reason NE has these tools. They are the weakest units in Tier1. And Orc harras with BM is brutal. As a NE noob, I have special hatred towards Orc early harras.
The druid in Diablo 2 LoD says: Oh, snakes... I hate snakes, do I see a pattern?
I mean I didn't play druid much, and the characters often don't say much
when does he say this? temple of viper magi in act2?
@@justanobody0 Precisely.
Thumbnail grubby made me imagine grubby holding out a choccy milk to me and it made me smile
I would like to see Grubby at rara in the future! It would be awesome to have your commentary involved with b2w
l love grubby
Me too I want to kiss him on the lips
Grubby loves you
I finished watching this video when it was uploaded but watched it again after watching the khalidax video, my guy absolutely loves snakes
Is massing grunts and raiders (no lodge or totem) realistic for a tier2 timing attack?
Think fast tech with no barracks before tech then barracks after tech into double bestiary. Or perhals even 2 rax and 1 bestiary. Yay or nay?
I really think the night elf's staff of preservation (or is it sanctuary) really needs to be nerfed with a longer cool-down between casts.
your build for high armor ranged unit is my cheese strats now
Grubby vs PaTo! Wha a game! 🆙
Snake!! LIQUID!!!!!!!!!
What's your favorite tier 1 unit attack command voiceline? E.g., "Time for Killing" by the Grunt
The fact DH can just spam mana burn is obnoxious , I guess DH is the linchpin pun of all NE strats
I just thought of something with all the bear eating Kodoa, what happens to a unit that gets eaten by a kodo that has doom on it? Couldn't prolong the multiple doomguard challenge?
Doomed unit cannot be et
very well played
19:25 that BM save was intense!
17:20 here*. I know it has no honour doing it but you should k8ill your low hp units here. Giving demon hunter easy levels in the next fight.
You had more money, and good production so i dont see why keeping them alive. Taking pop over 80.
S2 Pato
A comunidade Brasileira gosta muito do Pato.
Grubby, what are the dream items for blade master? One orb of lightning and 5 claws of attack +12, or something more diverse?
Cloak of flames, mask of death, crown of kings×2 or helm of Valor, claws +12, amulet of spell shield
two +12 claws, orb of lightning, scourge bone chimes, potion of divinity, another healing consumable
Boots of elvenkind +6. Claws 12 is probably better but I'd rather have one eof ach than two claws,
Hi Grubby,
thank you for ur videos. i would love to have a keyboard cam. Is this possible or even worth for u?
Anyways....Grüße aus Deutschland.
In the title, would not "Brazilian pro player" instead of "This guy" be more appealing and respectul to Pato ?
doesnt matter. im sure pato's feelings are fine.
Saying as they're friends. You're taking this alittle to personal for somebody else.
You gotta give him credit thou
Awesome game
Grubby is grinding continuously, averaging 3000 apm 7 days a week rank ONE for all races (not undead) he doesn’t miss and when he sleeps he averages 2000 apm in his dreams, these stats cannot be slept upon and so no raraland for grubby.
My snake likes you! 🐍
i think he lost aow to creeps btw. looked like it when u were ff'ing
gooooooooooooooooooooooo
É Brasil!
SNEK
Why dont go few wyverns and harass his buildings/wisps?
Orb of venom is good against that
@@ambion19 Orb is t3 you go wyvs t2 before its avaiable
Wyvern are very expensive for that value and too easy to Get killed against keeper + mass dryad. I think the Money is better invested in Raiders+ kodo
Sssssssnek
kodos cant eat bears?
they can. why? maybe you saw kodo missed the eat animation? unit can dodge the eating if it moves out of range during the kodo animation.
Kodos can eat my RUclips comment?
"grubby: you could say anything" "I was so worried when chat was added" ....haha what was this man saying back in the day. Be proud young Grub, you were there in the glory days, not this sanitized filth.
thumbs down until you make an effort to say Head HUNTER correctly its not Sunters
self snitching in the chat a little bit there