Aquarium Buyer Beware Japanese Medaka Ricefish and Reworking Lineage
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You will get that amazing color if you keep them outside, they need sunlight to make vitamin A and D. Lack of light also triggers the production of melatonin that limits their growth. I've notice this keeping them inside and outside. keeping them inside reduces color, size and longevity. They also need that hibernation period in the winter, as a break form the warm breeding season and it extends their lifespan. keep up the great work, I really enjoy the videos.
It is wild how much they are light dependent. I will breed them inside for a while then we will take them outside and see what happens but I’m doubting they will color up like the pics. My natural tanks are good for popping colors.
It's like they get a sun tan for sure. I put mine outside and they go from pale yellow to red and white. Then they come inside for winter and go back to pale yellow
@@kylekarsten721 They wash out inside for sure, I've sold them to my LFS and after a couple weeks they fade out and lose most of the sparkle.
Have you ever tried using UV lights when they're being kept indoor?
Very informative!! Thanks😊
was interested in ordering these from Japan when i saw the listings.... decided it wasn't worth the risk. I'll be a couple generations behind but will buy from USA breeders like you who bit the bullet ordering sight unseen overseas!
Ricefish are so beautiful. I will get some for my tank I set up in October inspired by you. No filter, no heater, just light, sand (aquasoil under), and a bunch of plants, wood, and rocks. The snails and microfauna are loving it, and plants are growing wild already.
Im learning so much from this channel, my fish room and myself, cant thank you enough.❤
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Ricefish hot new Killie in town. These gonna start getting SUPER popular in U.S. this season. I'm gonna start with the midnight, black, which are readily available and work on the lineage. Killifish Krazed, now MEDAKA HEAD!
good luck! never had luck with e bay orders ever. I've never received what I've ordered
You should have left them in the sun for 10 minutes or so to get them to fire up properly! And pretty sure tri color needs to breed with a bycolor to make a tri color again and the two gekkas u put to the side will probably be the best in my opinion!
I would try medaka lair for the next try. They're a stateside medaka breeder the strains are true to form and match what the description is. He sells eggs too. Im about ro purchase from him soon myself.
Thanks for the recommendation and always good to hear from ya :)
Rice fish genetics are interesting. I have some orange that bread out into two separate groups, some being dark orange, and some light orange
my experience ordering eggs from Japan was disappointing they arrived fine but as they grew it was clear they had extremely poor genetics and one of the strains only a single individual presented the advertised variety. not to mention few survived being kept outside while my other varieties thrived. its gonna take generations of breeding in good genetics to get the lines presentable.
I have seen many people in the UK buy eggs from that seller and not one have ended up with fish that look anything like what was expected to be!
Medaka are like a gotcha game. Out of 100 eggs you might get 2 that look like the parent. That’s why the ones that do look like the lineage are so exspesive.
Read my comment. Pretty sure I answer this one. That seller is a scam.
@@the.medaka.lair. just seen your comment. I’am in the UK and it’s just been said that the Oryzias Latipes will soon be on the band list for the UK to keep because of the higher risk of disease that they Carry for are UK native fish. The old school Zebra Danio Danio rerio is also on the same list! And many others.
Medaka are like a gotcha game. Out of 100 eggs you might get 2 that look like the parent. That’s why the ones that do look like the lineage are so exspesive. The tricolors especially do not lead true.
Love the red tigers. One day I want to keep rice fish. I love that they don't need a heater in my area. Thank you for the warning on ordering eggs.
From what I've heard is that the professional breeders do not sell eggs online. So many of these fancy expensive strains generally do not breed true. A few might work. You have to do the work of culling for that reason. My basic Miyuki's out of my second batch have a few with frilled fins and a couple look kind of pinkish to me. They are possibly mediocre or not a very pure strain. But again I hear variety can crop up. Anyone can go on to improve or develop a new strain. Best to have a direct connection to Japan or have a good importer of livestock. Check other countries too. In the USA we are just getting started. Medaka are one of the 3 most studied laboratory fish along with Plates and Zebra Danios. On lab sites I've found their books are very expensive, not for the layman. These fish do not have stomachs! For that reason it is best to not feed 2 hours before sundown. I feed mine when ever I can anyway cause I work all day. There are summer, winter and baby foods for the more intricate fancier. Good luck everyone.
Checkout Nokaoi Medaka here in Hilo Hawaii. Great local breeder. I think they ship. Good quality and consistent.
they seem pretty cool, i enjoy watching videos about them! but imma stick with my crazy guppy endler hybrids for now 😂
This is gonna be a great breeding project. Talk about summer fun yay.❤😊
Tank you, you teach w/o trying.
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It true though, I keep them in a aquarium with light 24/7 and they just slowly develop spin curve and die, the moment I put them outside in my haft green water mini pond they just start breeding like crazy and no longer have any issue
Great video
1:51 That's not even a Jacuzzi bath, more like a theme park whitewater rapids ride. 🌊🌀
Im pretty sure I bought ricefish from the same person or at least a similar ebay shop, can confirm they grow ugly and sometimes stunted until they get some time outside, mine were supposed to turn gold and stayed blue until they were moved out
What age did you move them outdoors
What kind did you get?
Wait…did I just see LRB using a net? 😱
Lol
LRB. I think it's really impressive you can get a shipment of eggs and you grow them out into some sweet looking adults.
Thanks 🙏
I have about 100 of the orange youkihi medaka. I didn't really want to mess with shipping, but I got to do something.
I most definitely will be buying rice fish from you as soon as you get some to grow out and sell.
The person you bought these from are importing eggs illegally to the US and has been called out on a few of the medaka groups. Ricefish change their color dramatically depending on the color of the container you keep them in. Dark tubs produce darker colors and vice versa.
I will breed them inside for a while then we will take them outside and see what happens but I’m doubting they will color up like the pics. My natural tanks are good for popping colors.
💯💯💯 illegal for sure. Not his fault but this seller and other overseas sellers need to be called out and boycotted until eBay finally does something.
dude from japan been known for awhile on the medaka facebook group as being a shady character. Mostly for illegally importing fish... since he puts on the customs form its just fish food and not fish which already big red flag... and for selling eggs that dont looks like the photos he has listed.. some have had success my guess is because some lines are more stable than others in general... but could also be bit and switch its hard to know..
Technically it is fish food for other fish. 🐟
Not to defend him but he does have in the description that they may not look like the picture! But probably a lot of fish come over like this not just ricefish
💯💯💯 illegal. These sellers are ruining the community.
4:54 the one on the bottom right looks super grumpy 😆
Lol he really does
5:29 Glue one of the neodymium magnets in the cap and it will stick to the door or screws.
I’d knocked the magnet off the cap just easier to clip it right on the nail.
2:30 What is the background sound? Grasshoppers or dragonflies? Keep an eye on the ponds for damselfly/dragonfly larva and use a flashlight at night to see them (at least that works for me).
Grasshoppers 😂 the terrible killer lubers that everyone swears will ruin your life
Or all the above out there it gets pretty wild.
What was the maturity age of the fish as that might change the color? Also, I notice a major change in the colors of the fish I keep outside in natural sunlight especially the black coloration.
They are definitely mature enough. I will breed them inside for a while then we will take them outside and see what happens but I’m doubting they will color up like the pics. My natural tanks are good for popping colors.
Love rice fish
Do you think their color will develop as they mature more?
Yes and getting them in the sun makes a big difference as well
1:10 Fairy shrimp or daphnia? Tried fairy shrimp but didn't have any luck. Plus the life cycle of fairy shrimp is tough to work with.
Daphnia it’s more natural to freshwater
Why are rice fish so expensive in America?
Idk 🤷♂️ cause everything is
RICE RICE BABY🎵🎶🎵 It's a little disappointing that they aren't exactly like advertised BUT there is still time. Maybe they need a little longer to mature.
Great video 😊 Detroit
I'm sitting here like why is LRB in such a rush, then I realized I had the video on 1.5x speed lol
Lol I watch most everything on 2xs anymore
Trouble with buying eggs is there's no guarantee you'll get the pedigree
True but I may have to eat my words on this video after I put them in the sun… will be updating once I catch up to it which should hopefully be soon.
I got some new gekka, probably from the same guy. Mine look like the picture, though. Maybe he mixed ya up with something else? I'll tag a video so you can compare!
Lucky you!
@@LRBaquatics didn't mean to sound like I was rubbing it in 😅
@@BrodysBettas lol just saying lucky you wish mine did. I hope you get them going keep me in mind when you do :)
@LRBaquatics what are the other types you get? I got some Ryuushoushoushi from him. I got some Kouhakurame from another Japanese supplier. Both hatched well, and we will see soon enough if they match their description, lol!
@@LRBaquatics I still have some Fundulopanchax Sjoestedti Loe males and Makurdi Longfin females!
Buyer beware is correct. What you don't know and should communicate with your viewers is purchasing eggs from sellers on eBay or anywhere else that come from over seas requires importation paperwork and licenses. If you buy these eggs and have them shipped to you through the mail without having these things and without filing the shipment through Fish and game you are actually illegally importing. Buying from the sellers is forcing the buyer to illegally important. Flat out. I personally know people who are being fined for these purchases. Especially from the seller that you show here in your video. Us Fish and wildlife are fining people as much as $300 per egg. That seller in general does not use his own pictures on his sales postings so I'm not surprised they don't look correct. In Japan in general the sales of eggs is looked down on and any breeder with respect for the fish will not sell them. There is no way they can control the quality. Quality is everything when it comes to Medaka. I also personally know that that seller is known in Japan and will not be served by many of the top breeders. I do not know where he gets the eggs he sells but they do not come from fish that he owns. It's a real shame that all these fish have illegally entered the states and are now making their way into the market and community with zero quality control. No one really knows what these strains should even really look like. Just a shame all around.
No matter what buying from these overseas sellers is illegal. It is illegal importing and I would be very cautious buying from overseas sellers without going through the correct channels.
If us wildlife knows it’s an issue and continues to go after people for that. I hope they know their rights and that would be considered entrapment. I hear you have some good stuff from another person on here that I trust. I could not find a real website though?
@@LRBaquatics it is a shame that customers are being targeted by feds but I think it's all they can do with the sellers not being here in the US. Idk I just want people to be happy and safe. And to keep the fish that so many of us love legit and safe from any weird types of control.
Anyway I'm not hating on you in any way. So sorry if I come off strong. Just passionate. I think about Medaka from the time I wake up until I go to bed. These little guys are my life.
Don't really have a site right now. Just been operating through IG. Same name as it is here. HMU anytime man. Still gonna be a little while till we are back up and going as the season is just about to get going. Good luck with the ones you have there 💪🏼
It's the same specie, you cannot import rainbow shinners or any shinners to Spain. But they still sell rainbow shinners here???
I was wondering if kuli loaches would help control my scud population in my 10 gallon
Probably. I know clown and Pygmy chain loaches definitely will.
Bought 6 strains from the same seller. Really hit or miss. Long fin tiger wasnt long fin at all :(
Hey you have my sons name I’ll have to show him this lol
@lrbaquatics, do you know when PetCo will have their tanks on sale again?
Thier on sale currently (checked online) not sure when it ends.
Sounds like it’s happening probably ends at the month but you never know. They seem to have them quarterly anymore. Which is better than once or twice a year.
@@LRBaquatics, Thank you.
@@sewerrat7612 , Thank you.
Check this video from RUclips Chiaki Hinohara about buying Medaka Rice fish eggs on eBay from Japan in the 9:22 mark and in the 9:53 mark he says that the Real breeders in Japan will Not sell eggs for oblivious reason as they want to make sure they are the true blood line. Any way try check out Chiaki Hinohara video and also check out the comments from The Medaka Lair on its illegal to import Medaka eggs from Japan. Interesting stuff and My Apologies Lucas if I made any issue on your channel‼️ ruclips.net/video/I8qL2tzBVbw/видео.htmlsi=MpkDpYQzK25iq5g9
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I will just stick to buying ricefish from you a trustworthy fish keeper 😊
Ricefish look like guppies to me minus the eggs
Skittle rice
Lol
1:15 At first I thought you had shaved your armpits. : P
Now I' m wondering if you shaved your arms? O.o
Lol never
Poor kuli loaches get racially/species profiled. : (
Put them in with the goldfish or pond?