From A to S - Documentary
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Originally released as a 30 minute DVD, this is the 14 minute version of the 2012 Documentary 'A to S' in which we accompany driver Richard Griffin in the spring of 2012 - the time when A-Stock trains were being phased out and replaced by newer S-Stock trains on the Metropolitan Line.
All old A-Stock trains were gone by September 2012.
The full-length documentary is no longer available to buy on DVD, only this edited down version will be published here.
Great doco! One of my biggest failings in life was that I was in London in July 2012, but didn’t know much about sub-surface stock at the time so didnt seek out the A stock.
Funny. People were sorry when the A stock replaced the locomotive hauled trains and T-stock fifty years ago. Among the trains replaced were the Ashbury stock of 1898, which had been used on the Chesham branch. Four coaches went to the Bluebell Railway and are now restored.
What an erudite chap Richard is.
Indeed
Bet he's a scream at parties!
What does erudite mean?
@@braydonquek9340 it means good at talking and narrating
@@braydonquek9340 Ever heard of a dictionary?
Have you caught up again with Richard since filming? Some long term portraits of the interesting people you meet on your journeys would be fascinating!
Tyler Dickey Richard was in the video of the new Jubilee Line Interior Design by Geoff and also Least Used Longcross (I think)
I wonder if he would be quite as cynical!
@@Josh_Funnell You bet!
The Big Met. The A stock. GOAT design on LT, never to be bettered. Easily Hall of Fame Queens. Rest easy old girls, you were magnificent.
Richard was an excellent presenter.
I just realised that the driver here is the person with Geoff in the Longcross video
I wish that you could still get the DVD
William Nayak RUclips to mp4 burn it onto a dvd
@@AndrewSmith-ks9xi The original version is 30 minutes, this one is just 12 minutes. That's what William Nayak was referring to. And I have to agree with him there, I'd love to be able to get my hands on the original 30 minutes version as well.
What dvd
the best Alan - see the video details (click the drop-down arrow to see the full video description)
@@tanithrosenbaum I think Geoff said tht they do not sell the dvds anymore.
just lovely those A stocks, the way the driver enters around 4:50, all the noises and physicality of it. Gorgeous.
Richard should be a broadcaster, please have him on more of your videos. Can we see the full version one day?
At 11:59 there is this guy shouting 'three cheers for the A-Stock'. Isn't that the same guy as the one in the video about the last old train on the Victoria line?
yes it is
he's ruined a lot of videos with his mouth
Overheard him when I filmed both C Stock tours and the D stock one.
Lol he also says (we love you A stock)
Finally, I've been waiting for years for this to be on RUclips! Thanks Geoff!!
A fitting end shot with Geoffs piece to the camera a the "A" stock coming into frame "Perfect"
john salsbury It was a fluke :)
Geoff, just a thought. . .
With the S-Stock now in full service on the Met, would its Walk-Thru carriages now mean you could position yourself better within the train for a quicker run at the All Tube Stations record?
I would presume so. All you have to do is get on a train, *before* the doors close, an then you can move to the part of the train closest to the exit or the bridge or tunnel that leads to another line you need to change onto.
@Raymond Cai Really? Is that on RUclips anywhere?
The same thing is happening down here in Sydney. Our 40 year old S-Sets are being replaced by brand new B-Sets. They have been such an essential but unsung part of Sydney since the late 1970s. It’s like an old friend is moving away.
Wow it’s finally being released! Remember having to purchase this on DVD
Wait you have the DVD version of it ?
Another great video , am amazed you guys are not on mainstream television such a professional job as always 👍
Went to a chaps house in Poole the other day to fix his oven and on the way out of his house I noticed a poster about the last journey of the A stock train and he told me he is an instructor for new train drivers. He also has a luggage rack from an A stock that came from Eastleigh where they were broken up. Small world 😊 Nice video and thanks for sharing it.
I wish I could've been born in the 70s, so that I could've seen these kinds of legendary trains instead of the modern computers.
Brilliant! I greatly enjoyed every second of it. And I learned quite a lot. The engineer did a great job of staying alert to his driving while also speaking very well. So cool that he demonstrated the Westinghouse brake.
Such a professional production 👏🏻
I remember being allowed in the front cab on a very quiet trip from Amersham to Chalfont once. Loved those bumpy old cars.
I was really enjoyed watching this! Thanks for posting this Geoff! I wish I could watch the whole documentary 😭
Thank You Geoff! This was needed!
(I love the tube stock and had Questions)
Congratulations Geoff! I'm brazilian enthusiast of the subway and other railway systems, and see this documentary is amazing and also really emotional. I've discovered your channel yesterday, so thank you very much for your content, and be safe for these days!
This a really good documentary covering many interesting aspects not only of A stock but of railway procedure. I grew up with A stock trains on the Rickmansworth to Amersham stretch and have a special affection for them.
A really well produced bit of TV. That driver is a natural... Needs his own series...
The New York equivalent are the St. LOUIS CAR Redbirds,both IRT and BMT versions! Thankfully they were preserved,by the MTA,and are now,in the Transit Museum! Great Video,well produced and definitely gives the feel of the rolling stock,and the people's reaction to the termination of the series! Thank you 😇 😊!
I always feel a bit sorry for the S stock in these situations. They're perfectly good too, even if they don't have the same character as the old trains. I'm sure in a few years everyone will find the charm in them too, and when it's their turn to retire people will be just as affectionate towards them. I love both varieties of train quite a lot, honestly.
That's how it goes lol, some people are just long :D, it takes them time to clock
I'm watching this in Metroland, on a train, ticking off my last few stations of the year. Good timing Geoff!
Superb commentary by Richard the driver - very interesting video👍
My lasting memories of the A Stock would be on my local line: the East London!
5:01 you can see the east London line destinations incl SHORDITCH rip
:( miss them
Wow Richard knew his A stock 😳 they would be like our Tait trains in Melbourne
More in line with the Harris trains actually!
A nice trip down memory lane. I remember the A - stock replacing the P - stock on the Aldgate/Baker Street to Uxbridge run, and not being very impressed. "Nothing wrong with the old ones, just a waste of money" (austere days). My favourite at the time was the T - stock which ran to Watford; slam doors and lots of swaying about. Now they were PROPER trains !
Wait so your telling me each branch of the met had different trains?
Hello There, a great Documentary, very informative, Richard is very knowledgeable. Cheers Peter :)
I love the fact I got this on dvd after waiting for so long!
I took "a class" to rickmansworth for school and they bounced so much at speed .
Nicely done! Very enjoyable video!
Brilliant video which brings back happy memories! Such a shame they didn't preserve an A Stock train for doing heritage runs on the London Underground.
Just watching this in 2022 and thinking about the fact that New York's contemporaries to the A stock (the Budd R32, introduced in 1964) only left the rails for the last time a few months ago. I spent 5 months in London in 2005 and the A stock seemed so old, yet back home I regularly rode trains of the same vintage and thought nothing of it.
For me London Underground rolling stocks are much interesting than disused stations
Thanks for uploading, Geoff!
Used to go to school every day on the old A stock love to see the plate that read Metro Cammell 1962 the year I was born
I love your videos about the Tube!
Simon Smiler? They did this documentary with citytransportinfo?
Talk about quality!!
Anyone else thought this video is about a,b,c, all the way to s
Yep. I did. I thought it might be a two part documentary about all the strange terms on the Underground (including "S is for 'Special' ".
Me
Thanks Geoff. Loved the Westinghouse explanation. Just sent you a msg about them. 🌲😀
I'm watching this in December 27th 2018.
So is everyone
I use to change at Amersham from Aylesbury to get on these trains. Some time in the nighties Chiltern railways started running a lot more services straight through to Marylebone with sprinters. Not going to lie, when they came in it seemed like luxury.
Wow! I do miss A stocks and I actually saw Richard today on the metropolitan line from Wembley park to Harrow then he went to the workers place.
I saw me there today too.
Proper old train. Not much of the SMEE equipment left in the NYC Subway that we operated. The New Technology Train has become the mainstay in the system. I was lucky to be able to operate them from my first day to just before thier retirement and then it was my turn to go.
Great video. Miss the beloved A Stock
Re the Westinghouse brake. I assume this is what would apply when - in days of old - a passenger would operate the old style alarm handles. This leads me to two questions:
* At Highgate on the Northern Line, the driver of a 1959 stock train would usually discharge the Westinghouse brake, before recharging the air reservoir. Why?
* On the 1959 stock, the old style alarm handles were usually retained above the guard's control panel. In the 1990's, someone was going round with a marker pen and writing the word "JOBS" on the handle. Was this a protest or some kind of in-joke?
I will forever miss this sound though: else.fluteboy.co.uk/Clips/Westinghouse%20DHC%205A%20Compressor.mp3
Yes, pulling the old (pre-1990s) emergency handles would physically exhaust the Train Line to atmosphere, applying the automatic (Westinghouse) brake. This arrangement was modified after the King's Cross fire so that the driver could still move the train if required after an alarm was operated, e.g. to get to the next station. To answer your questions:
1) It was an unofficial custom to brake using the Westinghouse at Highgate, perhaps because of the long platform giving plenty of leeway for error. On the 1959 tube stock the triple valve was of a less user-friendly design which was somewhat prone to failing to release brakes fully; to avoid dragging brakes after using the Westinghouse, some drivers would fully discharge the train line before recharging it.
2) No idea.
Been waiting for this a longggg time
In my opinion the best London underground sub-surface train is the C Stock, but also D and A stock are really good!
I beg to differ.
nah.
Let me correct: The best sub-surface London underground train is the C stock. Then there are the deep-level tube trains and in my opinion the most beautiful of them are the 1972/1973 stock
@@trainspottingfs5381 I agree with your deep tube and respect your ss choice but I think A stock was better
@@jonah6404 yeah I like a stock and d stock too... It is subjective😉
Nice video Geoff, can you do one of from C to S documentary please, I really miss the c stock
He has done one which was a separate DVD (Now you C me), I imagine that will be released eventually soon
The London Transport Enthusiast Boy you forgot the d stock
Brayan DePaula4 he's already did a d stock documentary
9:30 The moment when you're In mid conversation and you forgot your point
Couldn’t they send some of the older units to the Island Line?
Edward Byard don’t think that would be possible as they were too big for the island line.
Dont worry, they're being re-chooched into full electric battery powered trains. Video of this channel in fact about it
Michael [APFX] no those are the D stock
Only deep-level "tube" trains fit onto the Island Line, as it has small tunnels on a lot of the run.
I would like to see the Island Line get some more modern stock from the Jubilee Line or Picadilly Line, when we bring in walk-through trains there.
The last time I went to the Isle of Wight, the tube stock was super-old tube stock and had no accessibility assistance, so it would be good for London to be able to hand-on trains that can help both deaf and blind passengers.
The intro music is Sweet by Tamanie
I miss these trains
I got that brown phone in the A-stock.
MTA has dat R1-9 holiday train!!
Now That I Have Watched This I Am Mad I Am Never Going On The Underground Ever Again
i love the old trains the new is nice to
Thank you. Victoria thanks Geoff and the Londonist. Fb page really fascinating love it so much
Who used to love sitting in the guard seat? I did
It's one of the longest lines, and for some reason has some of the lowest ridership.
You can put this out on Blu-ray, if you would like to.
American freight trains still use a variation of the Westinghouse brake system!
The last segment is made to sound like its post A stock
then an A stock turns up
This is basically the Tory Line
We Will Miss You A Stock
I was disgusted when I found out, eventually, not even one whole A Stock unit was preserved, Harsh harsh harsh, although an average of 50 years for a fleet of underground trains is definitely reasonable in England.
We finally get this after 6 yeara
I didn’t ride the A-stock because i was born in october 2012
Very nice video, really enjoyed it
Wonder how and what Richard is doing today
He's ok, just scrolling through the comments on this old video his buddy Geoff made almost 12 years ago. ;)
Geoff I love the Metropolitan line
View the years
I never got to ride the c stock or the a stock but im still gonna ride the 2009 stock on victoria line
luggage racks on a metro train. We could definitely use those on American light rail
Who else read this as " From A to S - *Stockumentary* "?
So on the A-Stock there were 'hidden' seats by the doors? They should have labeled them and let people use them during busy periods
Those who commuted on the line frequently enough knew these hidden seats existed.
Thanks :-)
The older trains cabs are blue while newer trains are white.The c,an and d stocks cabs are blue while s stocks cabs are white.
there bouncy like a pacer the a stock
s stock is cool
oh and hi lol
Fantastic video, as always and thank you for posting. Not just a nostalgic look at what has now gone forever, but annotated with some very interesting commentary on how these trains were driven and the skill required to do so. I travelled on these many many times over the years and have a great affection for them myself. I managed to capture the very last 'A' stock unit to run under its own power back in May last year as it travelled from Neasden depot to Ealing Common depot via Rayners Lane and Ruislip siding on its way to be removed by road for scrap. I hope you don't mind me adding the link to that video. All the best! ruclips.net/video/Uw01jcqtI6c/видео.html
Operational costs go down, prices go up 🤔
love the a stock
Talks about his opinions on the S stocks after the final A stock train. Note 13:01 a A stock train in the background lol
I believe they let the last A stock run a 70mph between Finchley Road and wembley? The speed was dropped to 50mph in 1986.
I well remember the 70mph rides on that stretch. Talk about a boneshaking and quite frankly almost scary experience!!
Rip A,C,D and 67 stock
But not all A stocks are gone??
It’s a mystery
Anyone else miss the compressor noise?
hold up 13:02 there's an A stock driving into the other platform. well, I think it's a stock.
hey, I’d like to know what the music you used in the intro is if possible? if you can answer, is it copyrighted? thanks
How do you get into the cabs? I want to see if this works in New York lol
cab permit^^
You have to request it from the transit agency but you have to have solid reason with the way past terrorism threats have made things.
Isn’t Richard also from the Jubilee line Refurbished carriages video ??
Aardvark.
9:46 that’s sounds like a bus turning off it’s parking breaks
Rode an A stock in the late 1970s...