once i was trying to come up with a cool title for a book and all i thought of was "a court of fire and fury" or something like that and i was like DAMN that sounds cool!! next day i went to the library and *there it was* . curse you sarah j maas
I love how you're in every comment section lol Seeing you pop upbin the comments is like "aight, this channel is Lindsay approved, let's check out some more content" lol
I can't believe people made fun of Robert Pattinson for how Twilight made him "look gay" when Edward is literally the most heterosexual role he's ever played in his entire filmography.
@@laurenmiller4824 When I was a Kid I thought that a shirtless tanned werewolf was gayer than a pale, overpowered, blood sucking disco ball (And yes, those were the descriptions that I gave to them when I was 11)
it's been 9 months (a whole gestational period, in fact) and i still have not gotten over "i cannot stress how much a baby was fallen in love with". peak comedy
@@anava7030 tbh I kinda imagine her saying it in a deadly calm tone. Like for an example: “so you named my daughter (pauses for a sec before looking up a Jacob and raises a brow) after the Loch Ness monster?” It was pure silent as he was at a lost of words until She let’s out a dry chuckle that Jacob soon follow up with his own but came out as an awkward and weak. He went to scratch the back of his head and gain the courage to attempted to explain himself again but Bella only respond with a smile that seemed to fool Jacob just for a sec before she immediately dropped her smile and rocked his ass out straight out of the woods. Yea I know it’s kinda cringy but I think it would have made her look kinda bad ass 😂😂
That line is literally one of the few memories I have of playing games on my computer while my mom watched twilight in the background in like 2015 and honestly just being confused
While I love that you emphasize the fact that Jacob fell in love with a baby, i would also like to add that one of his pack mates fell in love with a toddler and unlike Jacob and Renessme this toddler did NOT super age so.... paranormal groooming
From what I remember, it was framed as "oh, he's just like a big brother to her" which is *fine* if that's all you're going for, and would be interesting if it was a soulmates can take any shape thing, but they explained it that she WAS going to fall in love with him when she got older, and ew.
@@dd-iy8xv I would agree with that, if there were previous examples of platonic mates(that I would have loved, platonic soulmates is something that should be used more often). Jacob and Ness are the first example of the whole "imprinting is not inherently sexual". It doesn't help Leah's arc in the books and the hints left of the reason she is not Sams mate it's because she was a probable wolf and because of that, sterile.
I remember my older sister was a potterhead during the Twilight craze and she has told me many tales of the battles she had to fight against twihards claiming Twilight was better
I enjoy that Pattinson used the money from the shows to just dive into deeply weird indie stuff, and ended up with enough credit across the industry to just do whatever the hell he wants.
Sarah Z is like if Tumblr was a person but grew up and was low key embarrassed by their teenage obsessions but still has a vast array of extremely specific knowledge that’s gotta go somewhere
@@TheManWithTheFlan the Elder Tumblr...ages ago, the Elder Tumblr laid waste to our lands, he burnt our crops & assaulted our daughters. He judged our favorite fandoms & burnt all the ships in the Harbor of Love...it was a massacre! We must band together to defeat the Elder Tumblr once & for all heroes!
I wonder if another reason "Hunger Games" got so big was because Jennifer Lawrence was the exact opposite of Kristen Stewart. She was a loud, super-smiley girl who played a tough, fight-for-herself character.
She did not commit the sin of "being unapproachable", rejecting *the gaze* by not smiling. I was never into either franchise, but this shit is impossible to ignore now.
As a middle school boy at the time, I do remember Hunger Games being seen as the “cool” alternative to Twilight, because it dealt with more mature themes and the love triangle was more of a side plot. Not really much to say on the actresses, but J-Law did win an Oscar shortly after the first movie came out so there was definitely hype.
Fun fact: during the height of Twilight's popularity there was this German acting reality competition show where the main prize was to get a small role in Eclipse, and then the final version of the movie didn't use the scene they shot with the winner 😭
It remembers me of a video of... I think it was Screen Junkies? In which they did a contest in which one of three girls could win a ticket to see the last Twilight movie in theater by answering questions about the saga, except only when the camera started rolling they revealed the true contestents would be the girls' dads and they would just have to sit on the sideline watching them trying to remember things about movies they didn't really care about.
My mom is STILL a twilight mom. I cannot even fathom how much fanfiction she has read in 13 years. We have an Edward cardboard cutout in the living room :(
Hahahaha I'm just imaging how creepy that is - getting up at midnight to have a glass of water and BAM Edward Cullen giving you 'fuck me' eyes in the dark
I was in prison when the last movie was hitting theatres and let me tell you.....inmates LOVED the previous twilight's that kept playing on tv. Like to the point that it started a fight because some guys wanted to watch one of the movies...again...instead of the football game that night. Lol it really tripped me out.
@@lauravampire1276 I wonder how the members feel about it- like they’d have to find out that two of the most infamous franchises during the late 2000s/early/mid 2010s were inspired by their band-
As a young undiagnosed Autistic teen girl in 2007 with no friends and constant bullying, twilight was absolutey my version of a cloth covered doll. It wasn't a healthy representaiton of relationships but the fantasy and escape it provided me kept me going through those years.
They have a really fulfilling and healthy poly relationship, Charlie at the center will leah and Carlisle have a rivalry. The rivalry culminates in the finale, after Charlie got hurt or smth, when they realize that they both deeply care for Charlie. Then make out session, or more depending on the network. Season 2 is less about monster hunting and just focuses on the poly relationship
Superwholock was awful. I wasn't involved with the fandom, but I was a casual Doctor Who fan, and I had to stop watching it because one of my friends hated the superwholock fandom so much that it was starting to negatively effect their opinion of me. To this day they still don't know I quit liking it to save our friendship, I'm pretty sure they think I just had a moment of clarity and realized it was dumb and cringe.
Weirdly comforting that a huge chunk of young people have just reverted back to their 12 year old interests, I thought I was going crazy when I started watching supernatural again in 2020 and listening to mcr 😭
Also I just discovered that the “team Peeta” thing meant who we wanted Katniss to end up with 😀 Bro I thought we meant our favorite character I’ve been proudly saying “team haymitch” for years fucc
Listen, I wouldn’t date Tom Riddle but if you put him on a marry, fuck, kill game... I’m not killing him either. Neville IS husband material, but he doesn’t have that spice? Tom Riddle is ✨spicy✨
I’m Indigenous and while I was getting my very first tattoo the artist asked me what my ethnicity was and when I told him he was like ah yes like the twilight wolves and I wanted to die inside like okay that moment in my life is just gonna be on my skin for the rest of my life lol
Oh no! My kids'caregiver is Quillute. I found this out by asking about her tattoo. I believe my comment was something like "bummer about Twilight," which she rolled her eyes about with some grace... Our local museum (Seattle) I think commissioned or at least displayed a video project with an artist interviewing teenage Quillutes about their feelings about Twilight. I remember this one kid who looked to be about 16 telling the camera, "we don't turn into wolves, but we are descended from them..." I unironically loved that. Way to own your myths dude. I could tell our caregiver had some complicated feelings, but she didn't seem too keen to get into it at the time. I respect her privacy, but I was curious, and it's certainly a phenomenon. Bummer about your tattoo memory, I suppose it could be worse? Sorry to ramble at you...
When my friend and decided to binge watch the Twilight Series in one sitting during this renaissance to go back and forth about our first impressions, when we get to the sparkling vampires bit I really stretched the ideas as to why sparkling would make sense if vampires were killed by sunlight in the past. I was telling my friend that it could make sense that modern vampires had evolved to a point where they're skin became like a mirror to sunlight, and reflected it before it could penetrate their bodies and harm them. Their skin sparkles as a sign of reflecting said light, and may be more metallic/glass in quality, and that's the same reason why the crack and shatter. I thought it could be an interesting evolutionary adaptation if that's what the author was thinking, so vampires could now thrive in a previously inhospitable environment. Then my friend looked at as I finished my reasoning and told me "I think you're trying way too hard to make the sparkles make sense"
I don't know if you read the books, but a fun tidbit in them was that in Twilight the stereotype about vampires burning in the sunlight came about because the vampires would sparkle so aggressively that they looked like they were on fire. When Bella first saw Edward in the sunlight she was scared because she thought he was on fire until she got close to him and actually saw him.
@@HadenBlake SDLKfnk it's not a theory it's literally in the books. Bella sees Edward and because he's sparkling so brightly she thinks he's on fire and screams.
Just a remark: the 'father' of all media vampires, Dracula, did not burn in the sun, either. There is a scene in the novel where he's seen walking around in sunlight, oggling a young woman with a pretty hat. So Edward and his family not burning up is fine - they're closer to Dracula for it.
@@cayreet5992 Neither did Carmilla (which predates Dracula), she only got a bit more languid and weaker during the day. The reason Le Fanu and Stoker didn't write their vampiric characters as burning up in the sunlight is probably because vampires in Slavic folklore (which is where the modern Western idea of a vampire more or less originated from) weren't described as being harmed by the sun either. Same with fangs; they weren't described as having those either. It's generally agreed it was Nosferatu (1922) which first depicted vampires as being harmed by sunlight and from there on out it became popularized to the point, that most people nowadays assume it's a given whenever vampires are portrayed in fiction.
There should be a Spongebob meme with the "Imagination" rainbow, but instead of Imagination it should say "Irony". That'd be perfect for this situation
He has a better personality and attitude than Edward "I stalked a girl, broke into her house to watch her sleep, forced her to let me drive her home by threatening to drag her back to my car if she tried to run away, ripping the engine out of her truck so she couldn't go anywhere I didn't want her to" and so on Cullen.
I thought that was funny also, but TO BE FAIR Pattison looked a lot better in Goblet of Fire :/ I mean, I guess that's a personal opinion but he looked so much... greasier in Twilight idk
anyone else remember that post about how Stephenie Meyer said she was sent to write by "the God of Writing" and then JKR was quoted as saying "I didn't send anyone." my, how that aged poorly.
Now knowing how Robert Pattinson actually is off-screen, I find it hilarious that tons of people wanted to date him just based off the twilight movies. I mean yeah he’s pretty or hot or whatever, but he puts weird shit in his sandwiches and had dinner with a stalker because he was lonely and just generally makes me laugh but also go “wow I’m glad I’m not dealing with that.” He’s amazing. He terrifies me and it’s fun.
He not only had dinner with the stalker, apparently the stalker was so put-off by him that they gave up on him altogether. I'm summarizing, but it's hilarious.
If the "The Pandemic has culturally regressed us by a decade" theory holds true, then along with Twilight we'll see a resurgence of college Ska bands and Skyrim content.
Edward saying "I'm a killer, Bella!" and just drawing a gun and shooting the first random background character he sees would be a legitimately hilarious kind of non-sequitur in a parody. Too bad they had to ruin it by forcing a nonsensical reference into it.
I think it would be funnier if he says it, shoots a gun, and someone offscreen just says “ow” and there’s a thud noise. Way simpler, still dark comedy.
Did anyone see the theory that women are born with all their eggs, so that's why Jacob was attracted to Bella the whole time, but men's sperm goes through a certain cycle, so the week before the honeymoon Jacob "oddly" found Edward attractive for that brief period because...Renesme
Given that Meyer is a Mormon, and with the commensurate lack of scientific literacy inherent to that lifestyle choice, I'm inclined to say that definitely isn't an intentional thing - not even a subconsciously included thing... Though it definitely makes sense.
But how did Deadward even produce sperm? Surely the fact that his body ceased changing at the time he was bitten means that he has been carrying around the same sperm since 1918.
this video gave me VIVID flashbacks to high school; specifically, I carpooled with a friend who had a certified Twilight Mom; pretty much every day for 3 years, we listened to the Twilight soundtrack on the way to school. I can't emphasize that enough: Every. Single. (school) Day. ...I could still probably list all the songs on it if I tried
My mother was also a huge fan and likewise always had the soundtrack running in her car. To this day just the thought of hearing Thousand Years again makes me shiver in revulsion - I very quickly learned to hate that song.
The meme about Twilight is that “Everyone in Twilight is far more interesting than Edward and Bella.” I’m not arguing, you have a literal corpse bride, a doctor who ignored his bloodlust to take care of his patients and a girl that can literally see into the future. I never liked Twilight, but I feel robbed because we could’ve had such an interesting book if Meyer would’ve focused on these characters
reading the first book, there were a lot of cool moments I loved. I constantly went "now if he wasnt so creepy....". I do think there's some cool lore in that series
Not to mention Jasper, a Confederate General who was changed to run a newborn vampire army sweeping across the South, who can feel and control emotions, and who gave up his entire life at the drop of a hat to become a vampire-vegan when an eccentric petite psychic just showed up one day and told him that she was his future if he just followed her wherever she went. His story, Alice's story, Rosalie's story, Carlisle's story, those are all way, way more interesting and worth exploring in depth.
I feel like a better way for Twilight to have been done would have been to do the first book, and then the rest of the books were "spin-offs" about the other characters and their respective relationships. It's something I've kinda always thought. 😆
I can't understand people saying that Kristen Stewart 'can't act' when she shouted "You nicknamed my daughter after the loch ness monster?!'" with such genuine fury and without laughing at all. Like cmon, that alone takes skill lol edit: thanks for all the likes lol I just wanna take this moment to thank Kristen Stewart for being part of my gay awakening 💜
She’s good in some other movies... just not in most of the Twilight movies, imo. It seems like almost everyone who worked on it just HATED working on it, especially Robert Pattinson.
She's said in an interview that she tried to put emotion in and the director just kept telling her to tone it down so she ended up doing the most bland, emotionless acting she could and that's what the director loved.
I want to point out imprinting is not portrayed accurately in the series; imprinting is what baby animals do when they open their eyes and see their caretaker for the first time. It's why ducklings follow their mothers around or why you have stories about farm animals befriending farmers who raised them, because they see them as their mother. So having it the other way around is....yah it's creepy.
IMHO: The Pern series by Anne McCaffrey did a really good job representing imprinting well ... but that was dragons fresh born, imprinting on their person/caretaker
Thank you for bringing up the issue with the Quileute Tribe!!! Speaking of bad takes... I remember being in the theater for the 2nd movie and when Jacob cuts his hair the audience went wild, saying "He looks so hot now!" In reality, cutting your long hair like that is for many tribes symbolic of losing connection to your culture. Some indigenous ppl were forced to cut their hair through forced assimilation. It was NOT a good thing that Jacob did that, and it always bothered me that the audience had a positive reaction to it.
Or not. Remember 2016? And how people said it was the worst year ever? Well now a lot people very forgot about all the bad things that happened in 2016, and are nostalgic for 2016.
@@kittykittybangbang9367 I’ve def seen nostalgia for 2016 but every time I have I’ve also seen a lot of ppl being like “wtf r u talking ab 2016 fucking sucked”. So I think generally people haven’t forgotten the negative aspects of that year so much as people are just desperate to return to ANY point in time pre-pandemic. There’s also something to be said ab 2016 being one of the last years there was any actual sense of normalcy. Like, everything since then has been a downward spiral. That being said, 2016 was awful and I’d elect 2015 as being the last year things felt relatively normal before 2016 kicked off the spiral towards the abyss. It is weird though how much nostalgia can make people blind towards the negative elements of whatever it is they’re nostalgic for.
@@beck2752 She could be [statistically, with her being religious, there's a good chance she is one - if she's even a feminist] and just keeping mum on it - especially after seeing how JK's getting treated XD
@@beck2752 I was raised in the same religion that she's a part of (luckily I got out) and there is little to no chance of her supporting any member of the LGBT community.
I feel sorry for Rowling. She made herself an icon of the crazy people and then tgey melted her the second she disagreed even a little. Politically she and I are not aligned but I do appreciate her books. Her politics never made me regret liking her books so its weird to hear how many losers just cant deal lately.
I remember the director for New Moon saying they switched the color pallet to match the wolves since Jacob played a more prominent role in this film. He wanted to go from cool toned vampires to warm toned wolves.
Despite all the hate for Twilight, those films had some moments of really good film making. They put in a lot of effort and thought, we simply must stan some dedicated film makers.
Like, is a teenager supposed to be thrilled about grown people with cameras following her? Is she meant to smile, get violent, make a public statement? Paparazzi culture is so fucking bizarre.
Twilight was actually a vital step in cracking an Egg. My best friend in 08 was like "You're not man enough to read it" He was right, I read them and am a girl now.
Funnily enough, this book was my first step into being able to talk to girls. I was always shy around them and couldn’t form a complete sentence. I had a girlfriend at the time and we broke up because I was too shy. I sat down, read the entire series, and not only did it get me over the relationship not working, it also allowed me to have something to talk about with girls and broke all the shyness. Also, I am also now transitioning to being a girl. So maybe it was Twilight
People sure enjoy calling tumblr a dead website, but it sure has brought the internet a ton of memes, stories, analysis and internet culture even after its porn ban.
Nobody on tumblr calls it a dead website. In my experience, it's only gotten better the last two years, maybe due to there being less people on it. It almost has the vibes of like 2013 tumblr. Theres a lot of posts that I can imagine would be screenshotted to share on ifunny or whatever the kids are using these days.
When I first heard about the whole "imprinting on a baby" thing I thought "Oh cute, like how ducklings can imprint on a human and thing they are their mom but reverse, he will protect the baby like how own child". Because that's the only context I've heard imprinting being used.
This is what I hated most about twilight, by far. And no one else cares they’re like “oh haha yeah” SHES LIKE A YEAR OLD DOES NO ONE ELSE SEE THE ISSUE
To be fair, that's kind of how it was explained.....but with the gross implication that it would likely change into a romantic relationship when she was "old enough," which since she grew up fast, was probably around the real-time age of 7. And this was treated as a valid excuse for why it's okay. So basically the conversation went like, "You just fell in love with my infant????? Gross! Get away from her!" "Noooo it's fine, I'm not love with her! ....yet. Might happen later, up to her." "Oh okay I can deal with that, but you're on thin ice." Not really as valid of a defense as Meyer probably thought it was.
Stephanie Meyer: I love both Jacob and Edward equally 😩 Also Stephanie Meyer: writes native people in extremely offensive and incorrect ways, makes all of her native characters 'have' to cut their hair, makes the native tribe all monsters that normally can't control their 'savage nature' 🙃
Stephanie Meyer: “Also I made Jacob fall in love with a literal baby just to conveniently eject him from the love triangle LOL but I love Edward and Jacob equally”
@@charleshawtrey5636 sir I'm not trying to get into an argument with you over my culture, as an indigenous individual. The way Stephanie Meyer portrayed indigenous and native characters was wrong. If you're so sure of these facts I'd love to see your sources, as I'd assume you have a long list of them to feel it necessary to correct me in the comments of a RUclips video about Twilight of all things.
Both are probably true. You can be ignorant without malicious intent, so it's completely likely that she does love Jacob and simply doesn't realize the horrible writing decisions she put into him. Not that ignorance is an excuse, but it doesn't mean she secretly hates Jacob and is intentionally employing offensive writing in the way he is written, but rather simply writing things she simply didn't stop for five seconds to think critically about the implications of. Just because it's offensive, doesn't mean it's malicious.
Ah yes, my monthly dose of resurfacing drama from teen girl fandoms c. 2010 - I honestly forget how I found your channel but I'm glad I did! Equally interesting to take a look back on Twilight as someone who adamantly hated it in its prime
I always thought the comments like "vampires in Twilight can be killed easily by X from other franchise" were weird, because my main issue with the book back in the days, when I read it the first time, is that the vampires are presented as totally cheated. They litteraly have no weakness, even the sun is harmless to them, so I was just like "what's the point" lol.
Yeah they're too overpowered. Vampires in other series have strengths but plenty of weaknesses to balance them out. Twilight's can only die from being ripped apart and set on fire.
yeah, one of the reasons I love the vampire lore of The Vampire Diaries. Now, this show does like to undermine itself and loophole itself, but there are some (cool to me) set rules about what kills vampires.
I've never read twilight, watched the twilight movies, had an opinion on twilight, or really noticed it's existence too much. Am I about to watch an hour and a half video about it? Of course.
I don’t like how franchises switch directors for every film. It’s ruins the continuity. Every director wants to put their own spin on it and it just feels off.
@@HadenBlake not necessarily the film Jurassic park is very different compared to its book even though the author of the book helped write the script. Plus depending on the book you may expand on certain things or cut things out entirely. I mean the Harry Potter books had tons of material that didn’t make it to the film either due to it being unnecessary, harmed the pacing, or in some cases they didn’t have the time.
@@HadenBlake but jj abrams was executive producer for the last jedi and reportedly had a lot of creative input on it. and if rian was the only one pushing for reylo, jj could've easily tanked it in tros. i think the issue was really that no one put any thought into episode nine while making episode eight.
@@SorowFame it just doesn’t roll off the tongue. I literally thought it was pronounced Renee-smee when I read the spelling back when I read about it on blogs back in the day.
Ah, I was an extra in Vampires Suck! I was 19 at the time, and one of the many randos in a red cape during the Volturi "prom" scene, and spent 3 long days on set, one of which was almost solely dedicated to learning the choreography for & then filming the Hustle for a 5-second joke. Terrible movie, but a memorable experience for sure.
To quote Dan Olsen, "Some things are going to take all week no matter how half you ass them." A lot of people put a lot of work into that terrible movie, and they deserved better.
I'm pretty sure you said Robert Pattinson won people over to the idea of him playing rich intense weirdo Bruce Wayne by being a rich intense weirdo IRL and honestly I cannot fault this analysis
i worked at a dvd rental store at the time Twilight was big, it never happens but before the store opened in the morning people were lined up to buy the DVD similar to the event of the new iPhone, crazy looking back at those times !
I think they're doing some sort of meta thing, like Danny Gonzales did with the other comedy commentary channels. Creating their own cinematic universe. And if they're not please let them see this and then they do it please
The “vampires suck” movie was the first movie i ever walked out of the theatre for. I was also 13. They couldnt even keep a 13 year olds attention or make me laugh. Just needed to get that off my chest
@@greyflash77 eyes Hagrid being "team slave race"("Yeah there's weirdos in every race" -Hagrid on some elves not wanting to be literal slaves) and "team muggle baiting"(yeah, remember when in Book 4 when Fred and George drop the ton tongue toffy, because they heard from Harry how abusive Dudley was, and their father chewed them out on how awful their behavior was and how actions like that is why his department exists? And how McGonagall chewed out Imposter Moody for using transfiguration as a punishment on a student, which was done over attacking another student behind their back? Hagrid didn't even have that background knowledge of Dudley's past actions to justify the fact that he tried to turn Dudley into a pig, just him eating someone else's cake, and then, unlike Moody, never fixed the tail he left Dudley with. Also is for the statue of secrecy not for the safety of wizards, but because both races should be separate)
My favourite is using actual southern slave state logic to justify house elves being in bondage (it was an actual thing that black people wanting to be free from slavery was classed as a mental illness).
i REALLY appreciate you bringing up how young taylor lautner is. he wasn't even legally an adult until after the filming of eclipse i think?? like twilight faded out of relevancy and is now old enough for us to get nostalgic about and the guy isn't even in his 30s yet. i also was unaware of just how bad the racist aspects of twilight got, so thanks for bringing more awareness to that! lastly... the weirdest robert pattinson media moment i am aware of is when he went on jimmy kimmel to promote good time and he told a very elaborate story about the safdie brothers trying to get him to do an unsimulated love scene with a dog, and he only admitted it was a lie days later after news outlets and animal rights groups started spreading it around like it was true and people were starting to get majorly weirded out by the safdie brothers.
My entire body curled in on itself when you said "we're cool girls. We like Harry Potter!" That was me to a T in middle school, like I really thought I was so special and unique for liking one of the most popular book series of all time???
@@shortyj31 the first Anne Rice vampire book came out in 1976, world of darkness started in the 90s. Also it wasn’t female led which is what Sarah was talking about...
I knew a guy whose mom did most of the wigs for Hollywood, and she did Taylor Lautner's wig. Apparently he was a real-life Jacob (pre-werewolf moodiness): Sweet, nice, happy-go-lucky, easy-going. It's awful how Hollywood and Twilight backlash treated him. (They also said this was the one time the wig just wouldn't cooperate no matter what she did, so they just stuck a beanie over it, and decided to nix it altogether for New Moon.) I also volunteered for the wolf sanctuary that the Twilight film crew used as a basis for their CGI wolves. They rented the entire sanctuary to film the wolves running around for two weeks, didn't feed the wolves in that time, then snuck a clause in the fine print to keep from paying the sanctuary for their time. The sanctuary tried to fight it for years, but every lawyer who looked at the contract said, "Sorry, there's nothing we can do." I know it's typical Hollywood behavior, but still...
They didn’t feed the wolves?! That’s so fucked up!! And yeah it’s really sad how Taylor is treated now. He does genuinely seem like a really nice person and didn’t deserve that hate he got, especially after Twilight when he didn’t keep up the unrealistic body.
I think it's also pretty unfair that people blamed kristen steward for not portraying bella with more personality because she was basically given an impossible task. The books are written in first person from bellas perspective and she is constantly telling us via the narration what she thinks and how she reacts, but obviously that doesn't translate very well to a movie.
exactly! also i feel like she and jennifer lawrence were both unfairly criticized for accurately acting like their characters do in their books. both bella and katniss were described as quiet and expressing their emotions inwards, which just doesn't translate on a screen.
@@tss5320 I don't remember about Twilight, but a key part of Katniss' character in the books is that she doesn't have the charisma to persuade the in-universe audience to like her, and that we only like her because we're in her head. This is why they do the whole fake relationship with Peeta, but that isn't portrayed very well on film. People call her a poorly acted/written character, but really the character is just a better fit for a medium that lets us read her thoughts.
Kristen Stewart is one of those actors who is good in very specific circumstances, I also remember they tried to do a twilight/action girl thing again in that huntsman movie? yeah that’s not her vibe
But does it have a payoff that nobody notices? The payoff for the "I don't like sand" line is Anakin picking up a handful of sand and gripping it tightly after learning his mom died. It's weird
@@Gloomdrake Not really. People hate the sand line because it’s the catalyst to Anakin and Padme initially consummating their relationship. The spider monkey line is just a memeable line from a character-building scene, not something integral to the plot.
Wait, so you're telling me that Kristin Stewart got into hot water because she had a relationship with a man who not only had power over her career but also was 20 years older than her and already married, and she was the one who caught the most flack for it? Yeah, that sounds about right.
No he got called out for cheating on his wife who he had kids with as well. Stewart got into hot water for literally only getting the role by sleeping with him.
@@Xehanort10 I "literally" only saw her get flack for it on television. Grown adults in their 40s were talking about HER and gossiping about only her and her relationship on television constantly.
@@PA-eo7fs With how often it's been revealed that women within showbiz face sexual exploitation, harassment and abuse, maybe we should try to avoid pinning equal amounts of blame on both parts for once and instead address the systemic problems and the men, not women, who perpetuate the culture that leads to women having to sexually degrade themselves in order to get a job?
as a hunger games fan i was literally just thinking the other day about how insanely un self aware it was for child me to actively hate twilight and make fun of it while also going to the hunger games midnight premiere in a peeta shirt. crazy that you talked about that double standard as well, it was super weird to grow up in lol.
Misogyny is a hell of a drug. Wish I would have realized that at the time. Imagine if ppl criticized like, male lead cheesy action "get the girl" films as much as they do romances directed towards women
Not to say that sexism isnt a factor but I think another important factor to consider is that media with an outspoken borderline fanatical fanbase praising it tends to get more criticism. Like I know a good few dudes who like cheesy macho action movies but they enjoy them as simple popcorn flicks and arent too bothered about it whereas Twihards go a little beyond that. I think another factor behind the hate for twilight that rarely gets mentioned is the marketing, the trailers highly emphasised the horror and action elements of the movies to make it look like a more traditional vampire story with some romantic elements, I remember going to see the first movie as a teenager with that assumption and was naturally disappointed to wind up stuck in a straight on romance movie that just happened to feature vampires. I think that if the movies advertised itself just a romance aimed at women more people would have left it alone but they insisted on trying to appeal to the dudebro market with their trailers even though they had no chance of satisfying those people with their product.
@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 I think you're right but in my mind that is also directly related to the sexism. Like, the fact that sexist backlash is most visible when a romance movie is loved mostly by teenage girls makes sense to me, since teenage girls are respected less by society than adult women. You still see the same issue with popular romance films for adult women, just not with the extra angle of "silly hormonal teenage girls," so it's not as bad. You make a good point about "men's" movies also being seen as stupid, but the difference being that those men don't genuinely uncritically love the movies. I'm not sure, but my 2c are that I don't think that genres marketed towards men have the same issue with being seen as stupid on the whole, even if some male-marketed movies ARE seen as silly. Also, the backlash against twilight wasn't focusing on the flaws of twilight either, as far as I remember. It was mostly "romance book stupid." Anyway, thanks for your comment, it was interesting
I mean...a lot of the Twilight hatred definitely was fundamentally rooted in the "teenage girls like a thing so it must be stupid" mindset, but people criticising male-focused action 'get the girl' movies is *absolutely* a thing. A very common thing. I can't even count the number of times I've seen people on the internet dismissively tell someone else to "go watch a Fast and Furious/Transformers/James Bond/Star Wars/comic book movie" as essentially shorthand for "you're an illiterate idiot with a short attention span who is incapable of watching anything that's not CGI shootouts and car chases every 10 minutes". It really is practically the equivalent of "still a better love story than Twilight" in terms of dismissing something seen as lesser to anything else. Like...pick any genre of anything and there are going to be snobs about it. And no, I'm not intending this to be a "not all men" style justification for hatred of Twilight and other works marketed to teenage girls/adult women that's rooted in misogyny. There are plenty of perfectly valid reasons not to like Twilight (or any of these other works) other than "teenage girls like a thing so it must be stupid" and if that's the only justification someone has for disliking these things then they can bugger off. But equally, misogyny shouldn't be used to completely disregard all criticism directed at it or to ignore the fact that criticisms that seek to put down "lesser" interests exist in pretty much all forms of media whether directed/marketed for girls or boys (and nearly always media marketed primarily towards teenagers), and is always just a crappy thing to do no matter the primary target gender.
Yeah, I never liked Twilight mainly due to it being a thing that most of my bullies and arrogant middle school teacher liking it which caused me to go into the "not like other girls" phase. In a way, I always found the Twilight hatedom to be really ironic at times since a lot of my former 'friends" online in my adolescence who claimed to be Twilight antis just to be cool yet they were all on sites like Wattpad and liked anime bishonen, "Tumblr sexymen", and even creepypasta characters. Still, I understand the legitimate criticisms people have against the series such as the romanticization of toxic relationships. but I still say there's plenty of worse love stories than Twilight.
The whole thing with moms being fans of Twilight is funny to me, because my dad was actually very into Twilight - He went to see most of the movies with me. He still watches them from time to time
The effervescent meme originated from another earlier tumblr post where someone posted a pic of a snail and captioned it "Saw a snail today, effervescent" and the twilight post mentioned was a callback to that I believe.
Anyway stan what we do in the shadows
Movie or show? Or both?
I heard about that movie! I’ve been recommended it a couple of times, I really need to check it out lol
@@MrBritishNinja i was thinking of the show but the movie fucking slaps too
@@MrBritishNinja yes
Way ahead of ya
If Twilight was released in 2021 it'd probably be called like A Flight of Blood and Apples or some shit
This made me snort. I've never even read/watched/cared about Twilight but this is hillarous.
twilight in 2021 is just a sarah j maas novel
sarah j maas strikes again
once i was trying to come up with a cool title for a book and all i thought of was "a court of fire and fury" or something like that and i was like DAMN that sounds cool!! next day i went to the library and *there it was* . curse you sarah j maas
I mean every YA book in 2020 is "A ___ of _____ and _____"
"lost to time"
uh huh
Mhm
How lovely to see you here Ms Menace 💜
I love how you're in every comment section lol
Seeing you pop upbin the comments is like "aight, this channel is Lindsay approved, let's check out some more content" lol
MENACE
Hey, at least Awoken by Serra Elinsen got namedropped. Feel proud.
I can't believe people made fun of Robert Pattinson for how Twilight made him "look gay" when Edward is literally the most heterosexual role he's ever played in his entire filmography.
Also ironic that Kristen Stewart is actually the gay one
IF I HAD A STEAK A BLODDY RAW STEAK
Lol early 2000s
I think it was the idea of a guy sparkling in the sun that macho guys were like “uhh gay” 😂
@@laurenmiller4824 When I was a Kid I thought that a shirtless tanned werewolf was gayer than a pale, overpowered, blood sucking disco ball (And yes, those were the descriptions that I gave to them when I was 11)
@@andrewovery6458 Wait she came out as a lesbian?
it's been 9 months (a whole gestational period, in fact) and i still have not gotten over "i cannot stress how much a baby was fallen in love with". peak comedy
It's been a second gestational period, are you still not over it?
Gestational period #3 over, how about now?
It’s been a fourth gestational period, any change?
josh hutcherson, of course, known for his work in “stuck in an island with josh hutcherson”
Fifty dollars grey shirt
fake fan!! It's "Trapped In a Island With Josh Hutcherson"!!
there MAKE be SNAKES
how convenient.....
aahhhh joshhelp
Kristin Stewart’s “you nicknamed my daughter after the Loch Ness monster” line delivery is unironically fantastic imo
I know right you’d think “how could someone make that line work” and she kinda did!
@@anava7030 tbh I kinda imagine her saying it in a deadly calm tone. Like for an example: “so you named my daughter (pauses for a sec before looking up a Jacob and raises a brow) after the Loch Ness monster?” It was pure silent as he was at a lost of words until She let’s out a dry chuckle that Jacob soon follow up with his own but came out as an awkward and weak. He went to scratch the back of his head and gain the courage to attempted to explain himself again but Bella only respond with a smile that seemed to fool Jacob just for a sec before she immediately dropped her smile and rocked his ass out straight out of the woods.
Yea I know it’s kinda cringy but I think it would have made her look kinda bad ass 😂😂
I have a love hate relationship with it
That line is literally one of the few memories I have of playing games on my computer while my mom watched twilight in the background in like 2015 and honestly just being confused
She delivered it as well as one can deliver a line that sounds like something I would have written when I was 14.
“You nicknamed my daughter afTER THE LOCH NESS MONSTER???”
Best line ever ababababbaba
Iconic
her line delivery was so wonderfully gay honestly
I had to pause the video to laugh for a solid minute there-
And they dare to say Kristen can't act 🤡
While I love that you emphasize the fact that Jacob fell in love with a baby, i would also like to add that one of his pack mates fell in love with a toddler and unlike Jacob and Renessme this toddler did NOT super age so.... paranormal groooming
From what I remember, it was framed as "oh, he's just like a big brother to her" which is *fine* if that's all you're going for, and would be interesting if it was a soulmates can take any shape thing, but they explained it that she WAS going to fall in love with him when she got older, and ew.
@@dd-iy8xv name fits
@@dd-iy8xv I would agree with that, if there were previous examples of platonic mates(that I would have loved, platonic soulmates is something that should be used more often).
Jacob and Ness are the first example of the whole "imprinting is not inherently sexual". It doesn't help Leah's arc in the books and the hints left of the reason she is not Sams mate it's because she was a probable wolf and because of that, sterile.
PARANORMAL GROOMING U RITE THO
@@dd-iy8xv it still nasty, and it doesnt give that vibe
the fact that harry potter fans and twilight fans fought and robert pattinson was collecting his checks from both franchises makes me so happy lmao
I remember my older sister was a potterhead during the Twilight craze and she has told me many tales of the battles she had to fight against twihards claiming Twilight was better
And now he’s Batman
Lol as a fan of both I would say that Harry Potter is better but I like Stephanie Meyer more than jk Rowling
@@Papaya16 I think everyone likes Stephane more than jkr
I enjoy that Pattinson used the money from the shows to just dive into deeply weird indie stuff, and ended up with enough credit across the industry to just do whatever the hell he wants.
the fact that there are sex offenders and abusers on that most hated list, and NONE of them are even in the top 5.
The fact that Chris fucking Brown was only at number 20 made me audibly yell "REALLY???"
Is there even an anti-vaxer on that list? It makes me wonder if this collection of memes produced by random internet users is wholly serious.
Chris Brown should literally be number one.
@@danielkeys8974 gwenyth Paltrow is an antivaxxer
Still confused as to why Angelina Jolie and Anne Hathaway were even on that list, they’ve done nothing lmao
Sarah Z is like if Tumblr was a person but grew up and was low key embarrassed by their teenage obsessions but still has a vast array of extremely specific knowledge that’s gotta go somewhere
That's literally her backstory though
so. like. a typical tumblr user.
So elder tumblr users.
first video i've watched in this channel. this description is uncanny in how accurate it is.
@@TheManWithTheFlan the Elder Tumblr...ages ago, the Elder Tumblr laid waste to our lands, he burnt our crops & assaulted our daughters. He judged our favorite fandoms & burnt all the ships in the Harbor of Love...it was a massacre! We must band together to defeat the Elder Tumblr once & for all heroes!
I wonder if another reason "Hunger Games" got so big was because Jennifer Lawrence was the exact opposite of Kristen Stewart. She was a loud, super-smiley girl who played a tough, fight-for-herself character.
She did not commit the sin of "being unapproachable", rejecting *the gaze* by not smiling.
I was never into either franchise, but this shit is impossible to ignore now.
As a middle school boy at the time, I do remember Hunger Games being seen as the “cool” alternative to Twilight, because it dealt with more mature themes and the love triangle was more of a side plot. Not really much to say on the actresses, but J-Law did win an Oscar shortly after the first movie came out so there was definitely hype.
i.e. Sisko on the heels of Picard, and which is such a cursed parallel
Fun fact: during the height of Twilight's popularity there was this German acting reality competition show where the main prize was to get a small role in Eclipse, and then the final version of the movie didn't use the scene they shot with the winner 😭
Damn, that’s messed up...
Did they get sued, or some form of?
It remembers me of a video of... I think it was Screen Junkies? In which they did a contest in which one of three girls could win a ticket to see the last Twilight movie in theater by answering questions about the saga, except only when the camera started rolling they revealed the true contestents would be the girls' dads and they would just have to sit on the sideline watching them trying to remember things about movies they didn't really care about.
There was? Do you remember the name? I don't remember that at all
Damn
Oh my god, "I don't really like the rain" and "I don't like sand" should kiss.
their child is "i am weird. i am a weirdo"
oh I don't know about that, things get muddy with shipping
And the "better love story than Twilight" has come full circle.
I ship it.
@@ravenjoker254 great pun
My mom is STILL a twilight mom. I cannot even fathom how much fanfiction she has read in 13 years. We have an Edward cardboard cutout in the living room :(
Hahahaha I'm just imaging how creepy that is - getting up at midnight to have a glass of water and BAM Edward Cullen giving you 'fuck me' eyes in the dark
Holy shit
This has to be one of the wildest comments i have ever seen
My friend's Legolas cutout used to startle me on a regular basis, I prefer that though 😅
Yo, so like, are u okay?
I was in prison when the last movie was hitting theatres and let me tell you.....inmates LOVED the previous twilight's that kept playing on tv. Like to the point that it started a fight because some guys wanted to watch one of the movies...again...instead of the football game that night. Lol it really tripped me out.
That’s wild😂
Never would have imagined Twlight being a hit in prisons
@@ClefairyRox
Same, hence I don't believe any of what I read is real.
@Lt. Bigglesworth
There's no way this happened. That's too hilarious to be real. 🤣
@@DemonicRemption oh it definitely happened. I had the same reaction....and I was there 😂
“Still a better love story than twilight”
WAR FLASHBACKS
I used to say it so much and I had never even seen/read twilight lmao (also, same name!!!!)
I’m pretty sure I’ve still seen at least a couple of those in the past year 😅
I am sooooo sick of seeing that
@JoeysRattata At least Edward and Bella slept in the same bed
@@amaniamiller holy shit
"I'm sorry. Not because I was wrong but because I was lame" earns a solid S rank on the apology tier list.
“i didn’t know how to express my opinions in the correctly savage way and for that i apologize”
Ok I didn’t know Meyer was Mormon but that makes the fact that she indirectly sparked the 50 shades series very funny to me
I find it even crazier that Meyer would’ve never written twilight if she didn’t listen to MCR
@@lauravampire1276 **WHAT??**
It is very comical 🤣😆 she wouldn’t have ever guessed.
@@lunabearsong2043 yup!!
@@lauravampire1276 I wonder how the members feel about it- like they’d have to find out that two of the most infamous franchises during the late 2000s/early/mid 2010s were inspired by their band-
As a young undiagnosed Autistic teen girl in 2007 with no friends and constant bullying, twilight was absolutey my version of a cloth covered doll. It wasn't a healthy representaiton of relationships but the fantasy and escape it provided me kept me going through those years.
"Does she even like Italian?"
"Her name is Bella"
Most underrated interaction in the whole series
Agreed. Shit made me laugh rewatching it as an adult.
I thought the line was, "is she even italian" but this line makes much more sense
"does he even like guns?"
"his name is billybob"
@@Mngalahad does he even marry his cousin, his name is billybob
"do you even like money?"
"My name is Bill"
I still want a side series about Bella's dad, doctor vampire dad, and werewolf girl teaming up to hunt monsters.
Charlie and Carlisle fall in love and make amends with the moody outcast werewolves. The fight scenes are great. We all rejoice.
Ohh yes
charlie n carlisle fall in love and teach leah that her werewolf pack isnt everything send tweet
They have a really fulfilling and healthy poly relationship, Charlie at the center will leah and Carlisle have a rivalry. The rivalry culminates in the finale, after Charlie got hurt or smth, when they realize that they both deeply care for Charlie. Then make out session, or more depending on the network.
Season 2 is less about monster hunting and just focuses on the poly relationship
@@242nicolas That does not sound like a healthy poly relationship...
Tiktok is basically speedrunning Tumblr history at this point and I'm afraid that it will bring back superwholock at any time
Everything that happened in Tumblr is starting to repeat in every other social media sites and Im not sure if I want to see that..
they better i’m still here
Superwholock was awful. I wasn't involved with the fandom, but I was a casual Doctor Who fan, and I had to stop watching it because one of my friends hated the superwholock fandom so much that it was starting to negatively effect their opinion of me. To this day they still don't know I quit liking it to save our friendship, I'm pretty sure they think I just had a moment of clarity and realized it was dumb and cringe.
Wow. That brought me back.
i'll bet its gonna happen. not superwholock exactly but some sort of nightmare mega fandom is going to arise, im sure of it
Weirdly comforting that a huge chunk of young people have just reverted back to their 12 year old interests, I thought I was going crazy when I started watching supernatural again in 2020 and listening to mcr 😭
Big mood
Relateable
Who is MCR?
@@montebrown54 My Chemical Romance, a band from the 2000s
@@muhammadeisa1459 oh yeah! Thanks!
Also I just discovered that the “team Peeta” thing meant who we wanted Katniss to end up with 😀
Bro I thought we meant our favorite character I’ve been proudly saying “team haymitch” for years fucc
LOL
This comment deserves a gold star.
Ouch
Ah yes I was Team Haymitch too and now ironically have a crush on Woody Harrelson
@@jamilabrownie I was team Finnick (but like to be with the sugar cube lol)
Why are they saying they’d “even” date Neville Longbottom like he’s the inferior choice when they put TOM RIDDLE on their list of hot people???
i was listening to this in my car and after hearing that i yelled, 'WHY IS NEVILLE THE LESSER CHOICE HERE??' because i was so baffled
Listen, I wouldn’t date Tom Riddle but if you put him on a marry, fuck, kill game... I’m not killing him either. Neville IS husband material, but he doesn’t have that spice? Tom Riddle is ✨spicy✨
I think it’s because they’re going purely off what’s conventionally attractive, but that’s fucking stupid
@@rascal342 i mean, he would be toxic afff
@LoafOf Milk How tf you make the conversation go from Harry Potter to Nazis?!
"blackmirror bandersnatch" why did i think you meant benedict cumberbatch
Close enough
Tumblr side effects
You mean that wasn't -- O H
omg ME TOOO
A movie starring modern-day Robert Pattinson, Daniel Radcliffe and Elijah Wood would be totally bonkers and needs to exist.
Tenet, “Swiss army man” and “ come to daddy” working together? Sure why not.
PLEASE GOD
And it needs to be a crack comedy. The more bonkers the better.
And it needs to be a bank heist
Don't forget Tobey Maguire
My favorite Robert Pattinson lore is that he was the guitarist for the song "Birds" by Death Grips
this is good lore
Death Grips is so good.
Cool, I wonder what the overlap in audience is here, also I love him so much in tenet, especially on a second viewing
That pic of them with Beyoncé is a classic.
I'm a bit of a death grips fangirl and that sounds like some pretty specific but amazing lore.
Edit: but what good lore isn't specific?
I’m Indigenous and while I was getting my very first tattoo the artist asked me what my ethnicity was and when I told him he was like ah yes like the twilight wolves and I wanted to die inside like okay that moment in my life is just gonna be on my skin for the rest of my life lol
I think it’s werid that the twilight wolves were what first came to mind. maybe he was trying to be funny •
Oh no! My kids'caregiver is Quillute. I found this out by asking about her tattoo. I believe my comment was something like "bummer about Twilight," which she rolled her eyes about with some grace... Our local museum (Seattle) I think commissioned or at least displayed a video project with an artist interviewing teenage Quillutes about their feelings about Twilight. I remember this one kid who looked to be about 16 telling the camera, "we don't turn into wolves, but we are descended from them..." I unironically loved that. Way to own your myths dude. I could tell our caregiver had some complicated feelings, but she didn't seem too keen to get into it at the time. I respect her privacy, but I was curious, and it's certainly a phenomenon. Bummer about your tattoo memory, I suppose it could be worse? Sorry to ramble at you...
Funny because I remember hearing that Twilight was racist against Native Americans or something
@@kittykittybangbang9367 she....she literally talks about the racism towards Indigenous people in this video did you not watch it ? ? ? ?
@@crypt1848 It's been a while
The fact you can hear how close Sarah is to snapping at the “still a better love story than twilight” is great
@@مطبخاميوسف-د4ذ mmmmmm very interesting...... very cool opinion mmmmmmm.....
When my friend and decided to binge watch the Twilight Series in one sitting during this renaissance to go back and forth about our first impressions, when we get to the sparkling vampires bit I really stretched the ideas as to why sparkling would make sense if vampires were killed by sunlight in the past.
I was telling my friend that it could make sense that modern vampires had evolved to a point where they're skin became like a mirror to sunlight, and reflected it before it could penetrate their bodies and harm them. Their skin sparkles as a sign of reflecting said light, and may be more metallic/glass in quality, and that's the same reason why the crack and shatter. I thought it could be an interesting evolutionary adaptation if that's what the author was thinking, so vampires could now thrive in a previously inhospitable environment.
Then my friend looked at as I finished my reasoning and told me "I think you're trying way too hard to make the sparkles make sense"
Hey, that's a good theory, though.
I don't know if you read the books, but a fun tidbit in them was that in Twilight the stereotype about vampires burning in the sunlight came about because the vampires would sparkle so aggressively that they looked like they were on fire. When Bella first saw Edward in the sunlight she was scared because she thought he was on fire until she got close to him and actually saw him.
@@HadenBlake SDLKfnk it's not a theory it's literally in the books. Bella sees Edward and because he's sparkling so brightly she thinks he's on fire and screams.
Just a remark: the 'father' of all media vampires, Dracula, did not burn in the sun, either. There is a scene in the novel where he's seen walking around in sunlight, oggling a young woman with a pretty hat. So Edward and his family not burning up is fine - they're closer to Dracula for it.
@@cayreet5992 Neither did Carmilla (which predates Dracula), she only got a bit more languid and weaker during the day.
The reason Le Fanu and Stoker didn't write their vampiric characters as burning up in the sunlight is probably because vampires in Slavic folklore (which is where the modern Western idea of a vampire more or less originated from) weren't described as being harmed by the sun either. Same with fangs; they weren't described as having those either.
It's generally agreed it was Nosferatu (1922) which first depicted vampires as being harmed by sunlight and from there on out it became popularized to the point, that most people nowadays assume it's a given whenever vampires are portrayed in fiction.
Sarah's hand gesticulations are the only source of renewable energy we'll need in the oncoming apocalypse.
I love her but I swear I thought she was paddling a boat at one point
Your pfp makes me so sad 😔
*notices Cedric Diggory on a list of Harry Potter Characters that are more attractive than Twilight Characters*
"Hold up"
There should be a Spongebob meme with the "Imagination" rainbow, but instead of Imagination it should say "Irony". That'd be perfect for this situation
He has a better personality and attitude than Edward "I stalked a girl, broke into her house to watch her sleep, forced her to let me drive her home by threatening to drag her back to my car if she tried to run away, ripping the engine out of her truck so she couldn't go anywhere I didn't want her to" and so on Cullen.
I thought that was funny also, but TO BE FAIR Pattison looked a lot better in Goblet of Fire :/ I mean, I guess that's a personal opinion but he looked so much... greasier in Twilight idk
@@Xehanort10 yea but the list also included Tom Riddle who’s essentially a magic nazi so I don’t think whoever made it was talking about morality
@@thelittleredhairedgirlfrom6527
But you know.... I could’ve fixed him
anyone else remember that post about how Stephenie Meyer said she was sent to write by "the God of Writing" and then JKR was quoted as saying "I didn't send anyone." my, how that aged poorly.
@johanna e. h. ikr i realised that is stupid
Ohh Jesus.... why did we let this happen?
@johanna e. h. I mean it's still hilarious just with more layers of irony than before.
JKR based
Was saying "oh my rowling" or omr instead of omg a thing outside of the obscure swedish harry potter forums i lurked on as a kid?
Now knowing how Robert Pattinson actually is off-screen, I find it hilarious that tons of people wanted to date him just based off the twilight movies. I mean yeah he’s pretty or hot or whatever, but he puts weird shit in his sandwiches and had dinner with a stalker because he was lonely and just generally makes me laugh but also go “wow I’m glad I’m not dealing with that.” He’s amazing. He terrifies me and it’s fun.
He embodies "chaotic neutral" energy quite well lol
Didn't he also run around with guns in a bathrobe and bear paw slippers?
@@lizabethhampton4537 that's the Harry ptter actor Daniel Radcliffe
AND he's batman, what's not to like
He not only had dinner with the stalker, apparently the stalker was so put-off by him that they gave up on him altogether. I'm summarizing, but it's hilarious.
OK, but why isn't it called the Twilight Renesmaissaince?
Damn, everyone really dropped the ball on this one
Because it's fun being able to type words.
Because most of us hate Resume, refuse to call her by her name, and mostly just pretend she doesn't exist 🤷🏻♂️
Ok, that's it, you won the Internet.
underrated comment
If the "The Pandemic has culturally regressed us by a decade" theory holds true, then along with Twilight we'll see a resurgence of college Ska bands and Skyrim content.
Ska will never die!
I feel like I've been seeing the latter lol
Bradley Nowell will come back from the dead and Sublime will release their new hit single "Hey You, You're Finally Awake".
That's very interesting, did you know that ska actually came before reggae?
... so I may or may not have recently started playing Skyrim again
The filter when she starts talking about the movies killed me holy shit
The WHIPLASH
Edward saying "I'm a killer, Bella!" and just drawing a gun and shooting the first random background character he sees would be a legitimately hilarious kind of non-sequitur in a parody. Too bad they had to ruin it by forcing a nonsensical reference into it.
Oh that's hilarious!
I think it would be funnier if he says it, shoots a gun, and someone offscreen just says “ow” and there’s a thud noise. Way simpler, still dark comedy.
They actually have that exact scene in the movie vampires suck......a parody of twilight....
Twilight was so harmful to young women, like an entire generation of girls just missed out on Garlic Bread? I will never forgive meyer for that.
as an asexual i feel the need to contact my representative in congress and complain
I first saw it at a very going age and barely remember it and I'm still in love with those movies after rewatching them through the years lol
Garlic bread is my favorite food. I could honestly eat it for every meal. Or just eat it all the time without even stopping
@@ILikedGooglePlus you’d get fat
@@boldandbrash9170 No, why would I get fat?
I love how the actual origin story behind why Twilight was written is "It came to me in a vision"
Yeah, tends to be common with Mormons
Big Joseph Smith energy
@@rakkatytam can this be the next book of the Bible then
@@sekiro_the_one-armed_wolf Yes, might have to make another branch of Christianity. I hear its good money though, so best of luck
In all fairness, that's also been the official reason given for the Beatles' name for seventy years.
Can't hear the name Josh Hutcherson without immediately thinking about being trapped in a* island with him
*I fix
*trapped in a island
I've laughed about this for five minutes, thank you ❤️
Thank you for mentioning this
We have the same brain
glad i'm not the only one
Did anyone see the theory that women are born with all their eggs, so that's why Jacob was attracted to Bella the whole time, but men's sperm goes through a certain cycle, so the week before the honeymoon Jacob "oddly" found Edward attractive for that brief period because...Renesme
i have absolutely seen that tumblr post
Given that Meyer is a Mormon, and with the commensurate lack of scientific literacy inherent to that lifestyle choice, I'm inclined to say that definitely isn't an intentional thing - not even a subconsciously included thing...
Though it definitely makes sense.
Theory?? Lol...it's scientific truth..sperm isn't cycled whatever that means..it's generated
@@charleshawtrey5636so it's scientific truth that Meyer made it canon Jacob was attracted to Bella and eventually, Edward 🤔
But how did Deadward even produce sperm? Surely the fact that his body ceased changing at the time he was bitten means that he has been carrying around the same sperm since 1918.
"On a completely unrelated note, there’s a pandemic and everyone is into Twilight now."
Well, that explains Fate: The Winx Saga.
That's a Fate with no Saber...
@@Nadia1989 Impossible
@@Nadia1989 Bloom is just the new Saberface
Well, there's also the whole CW/TVD fingerprints on it.
@@Furo_kun quote Gigguk's "Red Saber or Saber of Red?"
The fact that Chris Brown is only #20 on that list of "Most Hated Celebrities" makes me viscerally angry.
Him and Mel Gibson are on the top of my list of hated celebrities! Can't stand pathetic men who abuse women.
It’s cause he’s so irrelevant
@@chonk3867 yea and also cos he’s a man and people expect way less decency from them
Naomie A. Tru
Imagine hating Taylor Swift more than a man who beat a woman half to death
this video gave me VIVID flashbacks to high school; specifically, I carpooled with a friend who had a certified Twilight Mom; pretty much every day for 3 years, we listened to the Twilight soundtrack on the way to school. I can't emphasize that enough: Every. Single. (school) Day.
...I could still probably list all the songs on it if I tried
Ayyy It's Red Bard, I watch your videos
My mother was also a huge fan and likewise always had the soundtrack running in her car. To this day just the thought of hearing Thousand Years again makes me shiver in revulsion - I very quickly learned to hate that song.
I had a certified Twilight Grandma. It honestly might be part of why I distanced myself from Twilight as quickly as I did in high school.
At least the soundtrack was pretty hot tbh. But I'm sure hearing over and over might be a little maddening. At least put the soundtrack on shuffle lol
Can’t wait for the next crossover!
The meme about Twilight is that “Everyone in Twilight is far more interesting than Edward and Bella.”
I’m not arguing, you have a literal corpse bride, a doctor who ignored his bloodlust to take care of his patients and a girl that can literally see into the future.
I never liked Twilight, but I feel robbed because we could’ve had such an interesting book if Meyer would’ve focused on these characters
And then we got Emmet. He's there
reading the first book, there were a lot of cool moments I loved. I constantly went "now if he wasnt so creepy....". I do think there's some cool lore in that series
Not to mention Jasper, a Confederate General who was changed to run a newborn vampire army sweeping across the South, who can feel and control emotions, and who gave up his entire life at the drop of a hat to become a vampire-vegan when an eccentric petite psychic just showed up one day and told him that she was his future if he just followed her wherever she went.
His story, Alice's story, Rosalie's story, Carlisle's story, those are all way, way more interesting and worth exploring in depth.
@@ndawn90...and Emmet's still there. Dunno if we should follow the ex Confederate though
I feel like a better way for Twilight to have been done would have been to do the first book, and then the rest of the books were "spin-offs" about the other characters and their respective relationships. It's something I've kinda always thought. 😆
I can't understand people saying that Kristen Stewart 'can't act' when she shouted "You nicknamed my daughter after the loch ness monster?!'" with such genuine fury and without laughing at all. Like cmon, that alone takes skill lol
edit: thanks for all the likes lol I just wanna take this moment to thank Kristen Stewart for being part of my gay awakening 💜
It takes true talent to not laugh at something so stupid.
😂
She’s good in some other movies... just not in most of the Twilight movies, imo. It seems like almost everyone who worked on it just HATED working on it, especially Robert Pattinson.
She's said in an interview that she tried to put emotion in and the director just kept telling her to tone it down so she ended up doing the most bland, emotionless acting she could and that's what the director loved.
The fault was more on the director to be fair
I want to point out imprinting is not portrayed accurately in the series; imprinting is what baby animals do when they open their eyes and see their caretaker for the first time. It's why ducklings follow their mothers around or why you have stories about farm animals befriending farmers who raised them, because they see them as their mother.
So having it the other way around is....yah it's creepy.
Yeah it is. She admitted she just straight up ripped off the term because she wanted something to explain the immediate and long lasting connection.
IMHO: The Pern series by Anne McCaffrey did a really good job representing imprinting well ... but that was dragons fresh born, imprinting on their person/caretaker
aww thats so much sweeter and more wholesome :’D
Thank you for bringing up the issue with the Quileute Tribe!!! Speaking of bad takes... I remember being in the theater for the 2nd movie and when Jacob cuts his hair the audience went wild, saying "He looks so hot now!" In reality, cutting your long hair like that is for many tribes symbolic of losing connection to your culture. Some indigenous ppl were forced to cut their hair through forced assimilation. It was NOT a good thing that Jacob did that, and it always bothered me that the audience had a positive reaction to it.
I think it might've been because he was shirtless too lmao
oh that’s ,,, really not great :///
I feel like a LOT of future commentary on culture is going to have "And then 2020 happened" as a focal point.
Or not. Remember 2016? And how people said it was the worst year ever? Well now a lot people very forgot about all the bad things that happened in 2016, and are nostalgic for 2016.
@@kittykittybangbang9367 yeah but covid
@@kittykittybangbang9367 I’ve def seen nostalgia for 2016 but every time I have I’ve also seen a lot of ppl being like “wtf r u talking ab 2016 fucking sucked”. So I think generally people haven’t forgotten the negative aspects of that year so much as people are just desperate to return to ANY point in time pre-pandemic. There’s also something to be said ab 2016 being one of the last years there was any actual sense of normalcy. Like, everything since then has been a downward spiral. That being said, 2016 was awful and I’d elect 2015 as being the last year things felt relatively normal before 2016 kicked off the spiral towards the abyss. It is weird though how much nostalgia can make people blind towards the negative elements of whatever it is they’re nostalgic for.
We already heard it for "since 9/11..."
@@bigolbugg I actually was having a good 2019
Yes, Stephenie Meyer doesn't tweet, and doesn't change retroactively how the vampires poop. That's a plus.
You know... I really kind of hate her... but that is a good point to her credit.
@@beck2752 terf* and she probably is she's just smart enough to keep her mouth shut about it lol.
@@beck2752 She could be [statistically, with her being religious, there's a good chance she is one - if she's even a feminist] and just keeping mum on it - especially after seeing how JK's getting treated XD
@@beck2752 I was raised in the same religion that she's a part of (luckily I got out) and there is little to no chance of her supporting any member of the LGBT community.
I feel sorry for Rowling. She made herself an icon of the crazy people and then tgey melted her the second she disagreed even a little. Politically she and I are not aligned but I do appreciate her books. Her politics never made me regret liking her books so its weird to hear how many losers just cant deal lately.
I remember the director for New Moon saying they switched the color pallet to match the wolves since Jacob played a more prominent role in this film. He wanted to go from cool toned vampires to warm toned wolves.
Oh that makes sense actually.
Very interesting
Despite all the hate for Twilight, those films had some moments of really good film making. They put in a lot of effort and thought, we simply must stan some dedicated film makers.
all the hate she got for “not smiling”... reminding me of those “can i get a smile, sweetheart?” kind of dudes
it wasn't hate for "not smiling", it was hate for showing zero emotion at all regardless the situation she was in. don't be idiotic.
@@chiot888 She was SO BLAND lmfao, I was legit confused why these far more interesting hot guys got the hots for her.
@@chiot888 That's 100% a cop out.
Like, is a teenager supposed to be thrilled about grown people with cameras following her? Is she meant to smile, get violent, make a public statement? Paparazzi culture is so fucking bizarre.
@@chiot888 You're such a Hack lmao
Twilight was actually a vital step in cracking an Egg. My best friend in 08 was like "You're not man enough to read it" He was right, I read them and am a girl now.
I absolutely love this comment
Lmfao I love that for you 😍
I’m sorry you weren’t man enough for twilight bro. It’s okay, not everyone can handle it without becoming a woman
@@johnjones2275 cope
Funnily enough, this book was my first step into being able to talk to girls. I was always shy around them and couldn’t form a complete sentence. I had a girlfriend at the time and we broke up because I was too shy. I sat down, read the entire series, and not only did it get me over the relationship not working, it also allowed me to have something to talk about with girls and broke all the shyness.
Also, I am also now transitioning to being a girl. So maybe it was Twilight
The people who thought Robert Pattinson was turning vampires gay never really paid attention to Interview with a Vampire, did they?
Or Carmilla... If anything vampires were gay long before they became a staple in mainstream fiction.
vampires have always been at least a bit gay. you're telling me they live forever but don't experiment a little?
Agree, there is few thing more heterosexual looking than Twilight
@@galacsinhajto Twilight is one of the most heterosexual franchises I've ever seen
@@laurenc5306 Twilight is so straight that Bella births a female partner for Jacob so that he won't end the series without a girlfriend.
People sure enjoy calling tumblr a dead website, but it sure has brought the internet a ton of memes, stories, analysis and internet culture even after its porn ban.
its quarantine for fandoms, before the virus times.
but only after the fact 😔
It may not have the traffic it used to but I feel like it’s the best place for fandoms, so that’s why people stay.
Righhhtt?! I recently revived my tumblr account and honestly it's such a good time
Nobody on tumblr calls it a dead website. In my experience, it's only gotten better the last two years, maybe due to there being less people on it. It almost has the vibes of like 2013 tumblr. Theres a lot of posts that I can imagine would be screenshotted to share on ifunny or whatever the kids are using these days.
When I first heard about the whole "imprinting on a baby" thing I thought "Oh cute, like how ducklings can imprint on a human and thing they are their mom but reverse, he will protect the baby like how own child". Because that's the only context I've heard imprinting being used.
This is what I hated most about twilight, by far. And no one else cares they’re like “oh haha yeah” SHES LIKE A YEAR OLD DOES NO ONE ELSE SEE THE ISSUE
@@somnodaur8064 god, ikr that was hella fucked up. There's also the fact that Edward was basically abusive to Bella
@@somnodaur8064 yeah I really like twilight but Jacob imprinting on reneseme is disturbing. I wish Meyers hadn’t done that
also her conveniently aging up so quickly that she would be jacobs age at the end of the movie was a... choice 😃
To be fair, that's kind of how it was explained.....but with the gross implication that it would likely change into a romantic relationship when she was "old enough," which since she grew up fast, was probably around the real-time age of 7. And this was treated as a valid excuse for why it's okay. So basically the conversation went like, "You just fell in love with my infant????? Gross! Get away from her!" "Noooo it's fine, I'm not love with her! ....yet. Might happen later, up to her." "Oh okay I can deal with that, but you're on thin ice." Not really as valid of a defense as Meyer probably thought it was.
Stephanie Meyer: I love both Jacob and Edward equally 😩
Also Stephanie Meyer: writes native people in extremely offensive and incorrect ways, makes all of her native characters 'have' to cut their hair, makes the native tribe all monsters that normally can't control their 'savage nature' 🙃
Stephanie Meyer: “Also I made Jacob fall in love with a literal baby just to conveniently eject him from the love triangle LOL but I love Edward and Jacob equally”
@@charleshawtrey5636 sir I'm not trying to get into an argument with you over my culture, as an indigenous individual. The way Stephanie Meyer portrayed indigenous and native characters was wrong. If you're so sure of these facts I'd love to see your sources, as I'd assume you have a long list of them to feel it necessary to correct me in the comments of a RUclips video about Twilight of all things.
@@sarahotterson5151 Annnnd he deleted his comment. Guess you can say he ran with his tail tucked between his legs
@@gem9535 Dammit! I was ready for a juicy back and forth...guess not. Oh well
Both are probably true. You can be ignorant without malicious intent, so it's completely likely that she does love Jacob and simply doesn't realize the horrible writing decisions she put into him. Not that ignorance is an excuse, but it doesn't mean she secretly hates Jacob and is intentionally employing offensive writing in the way he is written, but rather simply writing things she simply didn't stop for five seconds to think critically about the implications of. Just because it's offensive, doesn't mean it's malicious.
Ah yes, my monthly dose of resurfacing drama from teen girl fandoms c. 2010 - I honestly forget how I found your channel but I'm glad I did! Equally interesting to take a look back on Twilight as someone who adamantly hated it in its prime
Oh hell yeah i love when my favourite youtubers like each other
this is what history books will show in the future
This is the most unexpected pairing ever.
Oh yeah, I was firmly in the “lol dumb sparkly vampires” camp back in the day.
Always thought the baseball scene was dope, tho
@@gravytrain73 I remember a lot of people who liked that scene even though the hated the movie.
The way I'm too lazy to watch a movie in one sitting but would happily watch one of Sarah's movie long videos in one sitting
In my brain there are two wolves. One is a distracted gremlin. The other is a hyper-fixating fiend. And together they form my ADD
This is literally my life.
That's because movie quality can be unpredictable, meanwhile all Sarah's videos are absolute bangers
I tend to play games while watching so i dont feel bad watching these vids and playing Cookie Run or whatever
My favorite one was "Romeo and Juliet: somehow a worse love story than Twilight"
It's not a love story
@@turtleboy1188 Yes, that is the joke.
@@turtleboy1188 >The Joke
>You
I always thought the comments like "vampires in Twilight can be killed easily by X from other franchise" were weird, because my main issue with the book back in the days, when I read it the first time, is that the vampires are presented as totally cheated. They litteraly have no weakness, even the sun is harmless to them, so I was just like "what's the point" lol.
Yeah they're too overpowered. Vampires in other series have strengths but plenty of weaknesses to balance them out. Twilight's can only die from being ripped apart and set on fire.
@@Xehanort10 Most vampire weaknesses are kinda dumb though lol
yeah, one of the reasons I love the vampire lore of The Vampire Diaries. Now, this show does like to undermine itself and loophole itself, but there are some (cool to me) set rules about what kills vampires.
@@ChangedMyNameFinally69 you are indestructible, but hear me out, the sun kills you
@@beatm6948 Sun, fire, silver and garlic I'm fine with. It's stuff like crosses and running water I think is dumb.
I've never read twilight, watched the twilight movies, had an opinion on twilight, or really noticed it's existence too much. Am I about to watch an hour and a half video about it? Of course.
Honestly, I did the same thing with Jenny Nicholson’s Vampire Dairies video
@@Bridget466 Ooh, I'll have to check that out. Haven't watched her channel yet.
@@neemibronstein303 I highly recommend. Sarah Z, Lindsey Ellis and Jenny Nicholson are my video essay trinity
me @ tjlc and destiel videos. i don't want to suffer through it but i want to know the drama
Exactly
I don’t like how franchises switch directors for every film. It’s ruins the continuity. Every director wants to put their own spin on it and it just feels off.
*Laughs in SW sequel trilogy*
@@samt3412 Yeah, good thing the original trilogy was above something like that.
@@HadenBlake honestly I think the Sequel Trilogy could've been way better if Disney decided to have Rian make RoS instead of JJ
@@HadenBlake not necessarily the film Jurassic park is very different compared to its book even though the author of the book helped write the script. Plus depending on the book you may expand on certain things or cut things out entirely. I mean the Harry Potter books had tons of material that didn’t make it to the film either due to it being unnecessary, harmed the pacing, or in some cases they didn’t have the time.
@@HadenBlake but jj abrams was executive producer for the last jedi and reportedly had a lot of creative input on it. and if rian was the only one pushing for reylo, jj could've easily tanked it in tros. i think the issue was really that no one put any thought into episode nine while making episode eight.
"Nessie? YOU NICKNAMED MY DAUGHTER AFTER THE LOCH NESS MONSTER?!"
Well, you fucking named her Renesmee. I think Nessie is a step up.
Why does everyone hate the name Renesmee? Sure, it sounds old fashioned but it’s not that ridiculous. Am I the only one who doesn’t mind that name?
@@SorowFame it just doesn’t roll off the tongue. I literally thought it was pronounced Renee-smee when I read the spelling back when I read about it on blogs back in the day.
THANK you!
@@SorowFame i honestly think its a nice name, just hate that its a mashup of her grandmothers' names
@@nao-bo4yz yeah, using your grandmothers ship name isn’t the best idea.
your youtube channel is like this little corner of the world that i feel all cuddly and warm in
I think the secret ingredient is Canada. The amount of really nice channels from Canada is surreal.
Ah, I was an extra in Vampires Suck! I was 19 at the time, and one of the many randos in a red cape during the Volturi "prom" scene, and spent 3 long days on set, one of which was almost solely dedicated to learning the choreography for & then filming the Hustle for a 5-second joke. Terrible movie, but a memorable experience for sure.
Amazing
Omg a celebrity
To quote Dan Olsen, "Some things are going to take all week no matter how half you ass them." A lot of people put a lot of work into that terrible movie, and they deserved better.
@@timothymclean very true words
I'm pretty sure you said Robert Pattinson won people over to the idea of him playing rich intense weirdo Bruce Wayne by being a rich intense weirdo IRL and honestly I cannot fault this analysis
The last time I was this early, Toby only had one account
Oh that's never happened
Damn
@@SarahZ I actually thought this vid would be two hours, lol
by the way do you know that new tara alts were found last week?
i’m so friggin happy i get this it’s so funny
i worked at a dvd rental store at the time Twilight was big, it never happens but before the store opened in the morning people were lined up to buy the DVD similar to the event of the new iPhone, crazy looking back at those times !
That must’ve been scary
"He's like what Jughead on Riverdale wishes he was"
So he's comic book Jughead.
Comick book Jughead on crack.
True.
Comic Jughead's one of my favorite characters.
and eventually people will praise Jughead on Riverdale
@@gars129 and on that day I will cry
the effervescent post is iconic i literally have not been able to look at snails or the word effervescent the same since
The way this perfectly compliments Jenny Nicholson's vampire diaries video-
I could not stop mentally comparing VPD and twilight because I just finished watching that video lol
@@HorrorLover I'm rewatching TVD and it's so hard not too
Omg rigghhtttttt
Oh my god, I just came from there.
I think they're doing some sort of meta thing, like Danny Gonzales did with the other comedy commentary channels. Creating their own cinematic universe. And if they're not please let them see this and then they do it please
Hearing 'The Lighthouse' described as 'a slice of life' film gave me whiplash.
I KNOW RIGHT
That made me giggle. Sarah's sense od humour is subtle, but brilliant.
Cracked me up so bad xD
I still remember people being "Team Switzerland" when they couldn't decide between Edward and Jacob
This comment gave me psychic damage
"I'm Switzerland." was one of the more memorable lines, at least as far as the love triangle went.
The moment I had become patriotic. I was so proud, someone has heard of Switzerland for its "neutrality" and not for its chocolate.
Back in the day I considered myself Team Switzerland primarily because I was fannish enough to think fighting over which ship was better was silly.
This is like a new episode of:
*The Twilight Zone.*
More engaging then the new one.
No. No. No.
Get out
I give you a begrudging thumbs up
Even tho I liked your comment I want to make it clear that I rolled my eyes really hard
"She does not tweet" has endeared me more to Stephanie Meyer than I thought possible.
The “vampires suck” movie was the first movie i ever walked out of the theatre for. I was also 13. They couldnt even keep a 13 year olds attention or make me laugh. Just needed to get that off my chest
I have no idea how Seltzer and Friedberg got to make more than one movie.
The first Twilight is an Indie masterpiece
"Money, sex, money, sex... the cat."
I C O N I C
“Bella look! It’s a worm! It’s a worm!”
the soundtrack as well
the color grade switch when you started talking about the movie is just *chefs kiss*
Honestly "you better hold on spider monkey" is a cinematic masterpiece and even Aaron Sorkin is quaking
we all know cinema peaked with that baseball scene
@@Amsayy honestly has Supermassive Black Hole by muse ever been better suited to a cinematic scene????
"Hold on tight S-M" is the name of my group chat with my two best friends on WhatsApp. We're all over 25 years old. Iconic indeed.
I'm pretty partial to the biology class fan scene and the line, "You're like my own personal brand of heroin".
It's "You better hold on TIGHT spider monkey" .. It's bothers me that you're quoting it wrong.
"Harry Potter has serious things like racism" you're certainly right about that one
It’s extra funny because twilight also has racism
Eyes Cho Chang and Kingsley
@@greyflash77 eyes Hagrid being "team slave race"("Yeah there's weirdos in every race" -Hagrid on some elves not wanting to be literal slaves) and "team muggle baiting"(yeah, remember when in Book 4 when Fred and George drop the ton tongue toffy, because they heard from Harry how abusive Dudley was, and their father chewed them out on how awful their behavior was and how actions like that is why his department exists? And how McGonagall chewed out Imposter Moody for using transfiguration as a punishment on a student, which was done over attacking another student behind their back? Hagrid didn't even have that background knowledge of Dudley's past actions to justify the fact that he tried to turn Dudley into a pig, just him eating someone else's cake, and then, unlike Moody, never fixed the tail he left Dudley with. Also is for the statue of secrecy not for the safety of wizards, but because both races should be separate)
My favourite is using actual southern slave state logic to justify house elves being in bondage (it was an actual thing that black people wanting to be free from slavery was classed as a mental illness).
@@greyflash77
Harry Potter is KKK propaganda because two of their names are racist if you convince yourself hard enough
POV: You invited the cute hot topic employee for a coffee and she starts a monologue about the state of twilight nowdays
holy shit how is this so accurate????
I'm dying🤣🤣🤣🤣
Me: nods in agreement at every word
"Its getting late you should probably go home... oh my god you're still going"
I most definitely would not mind.
The "still a better love story than Twilight" is STILL a thing right now. I saw one of those in December.
Still a better-
@@BepiBoBep still a better-- [GUNSHOTS]
@@wren2624 😂
I mumbled it to myself the other day in response to something I was watching and didn't even notice.
Still a better meme than twilight.
i REALLY appreciate you bringing up how young taylor lautner is. he wasn't even legally an adult until after the filming of eclipse i think?? like twilight faded out of relevancy and is now old enough for us to get nostalgic about and the guy isn't even in his 30s yet.
i also was unaware of just how bad the racist aspects of twilight got, so thanks for bringing more awareness to that!
lastly... the weirdest robert pattinson media moment i am aware of is when he went on jimmy kimmel to promote good time and he told a very elaborate story about the safdie brothers trying to get him to do an unsimulated love scene with a dog, and he only admitted it was a lie days later after news outlets and animal rights groups started spreading it around like it was true and people were starting to get majorly weirded out by the safdie brothers.
According to Google, Taylor was only sixteen when the first movie aired.
Isn’t that legally libel
@@DeathnoteBB he's legally taylor lautner lmao I'm sure it doesn't matter
That... sounds like slander ngl
@@_gremlinboy What does Taylor Lautner have to do with Robert committing libel?
My entire body curled in on itself when you said "we're cool girls. We like Harry Potter!" That was me to a T in middle school, like I really thought I was so special and unique for liking one of the most popular book series of all time???
"Anne Rice please don't sue me." Ahh. The ancient prayer of fan writers in the olden times.
A prayer that rarely worked. Anne Rice was one of the most vengeful of the Old Deities.
I was just going to comment something like that 😂
How about "World of Darkness", please don't sue me, considering they were the predecessors of vampire games, fic, and lore prior to Anne Rice. Oh boy.
@@shortyj31 the first Anne Rice vampire book came out in 1976, world of darkness started in the 90s. Also it wasn’t female led which is what Sarah was talking about...
I knew a guy whose mom did most of the wigs for Hollywood, and she did Taylor Lautner's wig. Apparently he was a real-life Jacob (pre-werewolf moodiness): Sweet, nice, happy-go-lucky, easy-going. It's awful how Hollywood and Twilight backlash treated him. (They also said this was the one time the wig just wouldn't cooperate no matter what she did, so they just stuck a beanie over it, and decided to nix it altogether for New Moon.) I also volunteered for the wolf sanctuary that the Twilight film crew used as a basis for their CGI wolves. They rented the entire sanctuary to film the wolves running around for two weeks, didn't feed the wolves in that time, then snuck a clause in the fine print to keep from paying the sanctuary for their time. The sanctuary tried to fight it for years, but every lawyer who looked at the contract said, "Sorry, there's nothing we can do." I know it's typical Hollywood behavior, but still...
They didn’t feed the wolves?! That’s so fucked up!! And yeah it’s really sad how Taylor is treated now. He does genuinely seem like a really nice person and didn’t deserve that hate he got, especially after Twilight when he didn’t keep up the unrealistic body.
I think it's also pretty unfair that people blamed kristen steward for not portraying bella with more personality because she was basically given an impossible task. The books are written in first person from bellas perspective and she is constantly telling us via the narration what she thinks and how she reacts, but obviously that doesn't translate very well to a movie.
exactly! also i feel like she and jennifer lawrence were both unfairly criticized for accurately acting like their characters do in their books. both bella and katniss were described as quiet and expressing their emotions inwards, which just doesn't translate on a screen.
@@tss5320 I don't remember about Twilight, but a key part of Katniss' character in the books is that she doesn't have the charisma to persuade the in-universe audience to like her, and that we only like her because we're in her head. This is why they do the whole fake relationship with Peeta, but that isn't portrayed very well on film. People call her a poorly acted/written character, but really the character is just a better fit for a medium that lets us read her thoughts.
Kristen Stewart is one of those actors who is good in very specific circumstances, I also remember they tried to do a twilight/action girl thing again in that huntsman movie? yeah that’s not her vibe
@@tss5320 I thought Jennfier Lawrence did an excellent job in that movie and was sad to find out other people didn’t feel the same way.
Excuse me but "hold on toght spider-monkey" is ACTUALLY the parallel to Anakins "I dont like sand" monologue.
Dont diss I dont like sand like that.
But does it have a payoff that nobody notices? The payoff for the "I don't like sand" line is Anakin picking up a handful of sand and gripping it tightly after learning his mom died. It's weird
I’m pretty sure it’s Bella complaining about the rain and not liking any cold, wet thing.
@@Gloomdrake Not really. People hate the sand line because it’s the catalyst to Anakin and Padme initially consummating their relationship. The spider monkey line is just a memeable line from a character-building scene, not something integral to the plot.
"Anne Rice please don't sue me."
[in the middle distance, Addison Cain looms.]
I recently watched Lindsay Ellis' videos on that....just wow. Also, Addison Cain WISHES she was Anne Rice!
Anne Rice is somehow *more* batshit than Addison Cain
Addison Cain on the grassy knoll
@@queenoffabulous2156 Addison Cain is MsScribe.
I'm so proud of myself because I understand every reference in this thread (except for the grassy knoll one but it's ok)
I'll never forget making a PowerPoint presentation to convince my mom to let me see Twilight in theaters without her
Did it work?
@@HW-sw5gb yes. yes it did
@@oharakatie14 that’s honestly kind of impressive
@@songbird6414 dont be too impressed im pretty sure she was just so annoyed that she gave in
Slow clap
Wait, so you're telling me that Kristin Stewart got into hot water because she had a relationship with a man who not only had power over her career but also was 20 years older than her and already married, and she was the one who caught the most flack for it? Yeah, that sounds about right.
No he got called out for cheating on his wife who he had kids with as well. Stewart got into hot water for literally only getting the role by sleeping with him.
@@Xehanort10 hey now, gonna need some sources on that "literally only" part
@@Xehanort10 I "literally" only saw her get flack for it on television. Grown adults in their 40s were talking about HER and gossiping about only her and her relationship on television constantly.
Is it is possible that they were both in the wrong and selfish...
@@PA-eo7fs With how often it's been revealed that women within showbiz face sexual exploitation, harassment and abuse, maybe we should try to avoid pinning equal amounts of blame on both parts for once and instead address the systemic problems and the men, not women, who perpetuate the culture that leads to women having to sexually degrade themselves in order to get a job?
as a hunger games fan i was literally just thinking the other day about how insanely un self aware it was for child me to actively hate twilight and make fun of it while also going to the hunger games midnight premiere in a peeta shirt. crazy that you talked about that double standard as well, it was super weird to grow up in lol.
Misogyny is a hell of a drug. Wish I would have realized that at the time. Imagine if ppl criticized like, male lead cheesy action "get the girl" films as much as they do romances directed towards women
Not to say that sexism isnt a factor but I think another important factor to consider is that media with an outspoken borderline fanatical fanbase praising it tends to get more criticism. Like I know a good few dudes who like cheesy macho action movies but they enjoy them as simple popcorn flicks and arent too bothered about it whereas Twihards go a little beyond that. I think another factor behind the hate for twilight that rarely gets mentioned is the marketing, the trailers highly emphasised the horror and action elements of the movies to make it look like a more traditional vampire story with some romantic elements, I remember going to see the first movie as a teenager with that assumption and was naturally disappointed to wind up stuck in a straight on romance movie that just happened to feature vampires. I think that if the movies advertised itself just a romance aimed at women more people would have left it alone but they insisted on trying to appeal to the dudebro market with their trailers even though they had no chance of satisfying those people with their product.
@@sernoddicusthegallant6986 I think you're right but in my mind that is also directly related to the sexism. Like, the fact that sexist backlash is most visible when a romance movie is loved mostly by teenage girls makes sense to me, since teenage girls are respected less by society than adult women. You still see the same issue with popular romance films for adult women, just not with the extra angle of "silly hormonal teenage girls," so it's not as bad. You make a good point about "men's" movies also being seen as stupid, but the difference being that those men don't genuinely uncritically love the movies. I'm not sure, but my 2c are that I don't think that genres marketed towards men have the same issue with being seen as stupid on the whole, even if some male-marketed movies ARE seen as silly. Also, the backlash against twilight wasn't focusing on the flaws of twilight either, as far as I remember. It was mostly "romance book stupid." Anyway, thanks for your comment, it was interesting
I mean...a lot of the Twilight hatred definitely was fundamentally rooted in the "teenage girls like a thing so it must be stupid" mindset, but people criticising male-focused action 'get the girl' movies is *absolutely* a thing. A very common thing. I can't even count the number of times I've seen people on the internet dismissively tell someone else to "go watch a Fast and Furious/Transformers/James Bond/Star Wars/comic book movie" as essentially shorthand for "you're an illiterate idiot with a short attention span who is incapable of watching anything that's not CGI shootouts and car chases every 10 minutes". It really is practically the equivalent of "still a better love story than Twilight" in terms of dismissing something seen as lesser to anything else. Like...pick any genre of anything and there are going to be snobs about it.
And no, I'm not intending this to be a "not all men" style justification for hatred of Twilight and other works marketed to teenage girls/adult women that's rooted in misogyny. There are plenty of perfectly valid reasons not to like Twilight (or any of these other works) other than "teenage girls like a thing so it must be stupid" and if that's the only justification someone has for disliking these things then they can bugger off. But equally, misogyny shouldn't be used to completely disregard all criticism directed at it or to ignore the fact that criticisms that seek to put down "lesser" interests exist in pretty much all forms of media whether directed/marketed for girls or boys (and nearly always media marketed primarily towards teenagers), and is always just a crappy thing to do no matter the primary target gender.
Yeah, I never liked Twilight mainly due to it being a thing that most of my bullies and arrogant middle school teacher liking it which caused me to go into the "not like other girls" phase.
In a way, I always found the Twilight hatedom to be really ironic at times since a lot of my former 'friends" online in my adolescence who claimed to be Twilight antis just to be cool yet they were all on sites like Wattpad and liked anime bishonen, "Tumblr sexymen", and even creepypasta characters.
Still, I understand the legitimate criticisms people have against the series such as the romanticization of toxic relationships. but I still say there's plenty of worse love stories than Twilight.
Twilight itself is misogynistic though, in a really deep way. It's basically an accidental allegory for a abusive relationship.
The whole thing with moms being fans of Twilight is funny to me, because my dad was actually very into Twilight - He went to see most of the movies with me. He still watches them from time to time
my dad passed away recently but he loved twilight too!
My dad was the first one to read them and he was the one to recommend them to my mom and i
I rewatch it regularly with my brother. And he's 18 years old.
Isn’t that how fifty shades started?
My dad has seen all of the Twilight movies. I have not lol. He loves them.
The effervescent meme originated from another earlier tumblr post where someone posted a pic of a snail and captioned it "Saw a snail today, effervescent" and the twilight post mentioned was a callback to that I believe.
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