Nowadays, with tons of markers on the market (468, T15, Tippmann, TMC, M17, CQMF, Tacamo, MCS100, etc.), it has become very hard to make the right decision, especially for beginners. Fortunately, there are skilled people like you to guide us! Your opinion matters. Thank you!
@@lesslethalfordummies I totally agree. The main hassle for beginners and more experienced users alike 💀. What matters the most is the power! As a beginner, I did some research and found out that the M17 and (not CQFM) or FS T15 FWD are good options for better kinetic power!
Got my 468 yesterday from MCS uk, the rsi 468 with a barrel + hand guard was on offer - so cheaper than the billet only- happy days 👌. Looking forward to following you along to reach an acceptable less lethal beast. Did the M17 with your vids back in Jan-March 24, loved it + very happy with the results 👌🙏🏼, can get a little pricey with the home defence 24 stuff - but hey, it’s About the journey & that you absolutely know what your talking about, 🙏🏼. Is this 1 gonna be a challenge to get to 50j, I’d be happy with that ! I’m up to speed already, looking forward 👍😉
Congrats! I appreciate the support. I am expecting the correct valve to be at my door step when i get home today. It’s been bugging me that it wouldn’t reach field speed out of the box. Now the fun begins…hopefully.
You didn’t feel the need to change the helix Dmag spring for the shaped ammo ? In their blurb they mention about changing it for shaped, I mean it seems fine…so🤷🏻♂️
@@graemelaw5808They included one 20rd Dmag which has the roundball spring and i purchased one with the FSR spring. Something is wrong with my Dmag. They are very crunchy.
@@lesslethalfordummies out of the box with mcs red kenetics . no adjustments - 1100 psi = 275fps (10 something jules) hope your is thereabouts with new valve
Looking good so far, I'm still not convinced on removing the ball drop but I'm hoping the new valve will help. The magazines are still bugging me design wise as to whether they can be improved. I know the pain of waiting for parts, I'm waiting on a few things from Taiwan for a really dumb build.
@lesslethalfordummies I suspect the weight of projectiles are an issue somehow but the follower firing was just... Odd. I really want to take one apart and do some polishing. A good metal mag would solve a lot of issues imo
@jediknight1294 its not the speed of the bolt. It is the excess air pressure generated when tuned up that escapes in the breech that can cause feed issues usually in the form of flips. I haven’t encountered any yet at this low velocity.
Nice test Sean. At least yours shoot almost the hole mag before it "Jams". None of my mag feed markers like shaped projectiles. They usually jam within the 3 first shots.... Roundballs works great, but not slugs..🤔
dont like the follower on d-mag, keeps popping up & getting stuck in the gate !! & that thin black gate aint gonna last long at all !!!! dont seem to be able to buy just the gate to replace !! have to buy whole new mag ??...... damn, any 1 got a solution / replacement ?
@@lesslethalfordummiesI wonder... Humor me at some point and put something under the follower to increase spring tension... Im wondering if the WEIGHT is the issue Oooor If the round track needs polishing.
@@jediknight1294 the follower has two nub stops built in to prevent it from leaving the magazine. I got a feeling if i shimmed the spring itself that tension may send my follower down the barrel. I am going to try modifying the follower since i have a bunch of spare spring loaded FSC followers.
Nice jacket !
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I like the way they where hitting!! Great video.
Thanks. I just subscribed over at your channel.
where what?
When who?
Nowadays, with tons of markers on the market (468, T15, Tippmann, TMC, M17, CQMF, Tacamo, MCS100, etc.), it has become very hard to make the right decision, especially for beginners. Fortunately, there are skilled people like you to guide us! Your opinion matters. Thank you!
Some are better than others when it comes to kinetic power and some are just plain more upgradeable which can be a problem 😂
@@lesslethalfordummies I totally agree. The main hassle for beginners and more experienced users alike 💀. What matters the most is the power! As a beginner, I did some research and found out that the M17 and (not CQFM) or FS T15 FWD are good options for better kinetic power!
Got my 468 yesterday from MCS uk, the rsi 468 with a barrel + hand guard was on offer - so cheaper than the billet only- happy days 👌.
Looking forward to following you along to reach an acceptable less lethal beast. Did the M17 with your vids back in Jan-March 24, loved it + very happy with the results 👌🙏🏼, can get a little pricey with the home defence 24 stuff - but hey, it’s About the journey & that you absolutely know what your talking about, 🙏🏼.
Is this 1 gonna be a challenge to get to 50j, I’d be happy with that ! I’m up to speed already, looking forward 👍😉
Congrats! I appreciate the support. I am expecting the correct valve to be at my door step when i get home today. It’s been bugging me that it wouldn’t reach field speed out of the box. Now the fun begins…hopefully.
You didn’t feel the need to change the helix Dmag spring for the shaped ammo ? In their blurb they mention about changing it for shaped, I mean it seems fine…so🤷🏻♂️
@@graemelaw5808They included one 20rd Dmag which has the roundball spring and i purchased one with the FSR spring. Something is wrong with my Dmag. They are very crunchy.
@@lesslethalfordummies out of the box with mcs red kenetics . no adjustments - 1100 psi = 275fps (10 something jules) hope your is thereabouts with new valve
@@graemelaw5808thanks for the info. Now i have an idea of what i was expecting to get in the first place.
Whats your barrel length?
gotta pop that colla' brotha 😎😂
🧛♂️
Looking good so far, I'm still not convinced on removing the ball drop but I'm hoping the new valve will help. The magazines are still bugging me design wise as to whether they can be improved.
I know the pain of waiting for parts, I'm waiting on a few things from Taiwan for a really dumb build.
The Helix magazines are growing on me. 3 of 4 are working good. The last one the case split.
The Dmags i have almost given up on completely.
@lesslethalfordummies I suspect the weight of projectiles are an issue somehow but the follower firing was just... Odd.
I really want to take one apart and do some polishing.
A good metal mag would solve a lot of issues imo
Well see how they hold up once i get the velocity turned up.
@@lesslethalfordummies Im suspecting bolt speed isn't going to be the issue so. Much as follower movement
@jediknight1294 its not the speed of the bolt. It is the excess air pressure generated when tuned up that escapes in the breech that can cause feed issues usually in the form of flips. I haven’t encountered any yet at this low velocity.
No Far rounds ? Thought they were a better design over the ho68 ?? I do not have any yet to compare but my HP68’s are rocking
Too heavy at this current velocity.
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I thought they were the same 8 grams as the HP68’s ?
The FAR are 8.5g. HP are 8g…well actually a little lighter 7.8g, but for the sake of the video weight didnt matter.
Da Fonzerelli back wit some facts vs fiction 💪🏼💯💥💥💥 18 rounds a big plus even tho they fed crusty just throw some juice on em
Sean shooting shaped! is the curse lifted? [bolt-action-paintbal-marker-?]
A temporary reprieve 😂
Yes there is a bolt action version of this 468 as well.
Nice test Sean. At least yours shoot almost the hole mag before it "Jams". None of my mag feed markers like shaped projectiles. They usually jam within the 3 first shots.... Roundballs works great, but not slugs..🤔
That is normally the case for me as well. Time will tell if it continues to work how i predicted.
dont like the follower on d-mag, keeps popping up & getting stuck in the gate !! & that thin black gate aint gonna last long at all !!!! dont seem to be able to buy just the gate to replace !! have to buy whole new mag ??...... damn, any 1 got a solution / replacement ?
I am not certain but i think the Dmag shares the same gate as the Helix.
Are the much problem with this weapons..mean jaming ?
So far it has been working good. Almost too 🤞🏼
@@lesslethalfordummiesI wonder... Humor me at some point and put something under the follower to increase spring tension...
Im wondering if the WEIGHT is the issue
Oooor
If the round track needs polishing.
@@jediknight1294 the follower has two nub stops built in to prevent it from leaving the magazine. I got a feeling if i shimmed the spring itself that tension may send my follower down the barrel.
I am going to try modifying the follower since i have a bunch of spare spring loaded FSC followers.
How much u wanna bet tippmann comes out with a high power launcher now over 40jayzzz in its stock configuration and can run bk kinetics
The least Tippmann could do is make the TMC shaped projectile ready.
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