Gazelle T4+ Overland Edition test and Review

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  • Опубликовано: 2 дек 2024

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  • @tyelytle7856
    @tyelytle7856 Год назад +9

    One thing I’ve tried and it worked really well was getting a pack of the waterproof gazebo wind panels and using them on the sides of the tent for extra water resistance. It worked like an absolute charm. Those plus the rain fly kept the tent fully dry and comfortable both in winter and summer rains

  • @Jackalope_Outdoors
    @Jackalope_Outdoors Год назад +13

    Nice review of this tent! I have had the T4 Overland Edition (orange) and a Gazebo G6 (original version) for two years. After our first rain experience, I got Kiwi Camp Dry spray and sprayed both the tent and gazebo all over (used like 6 cans) and then the carry bags as well. This made all the difference in the rain protection and no longer have water issues.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  Год назад +1

      Nice to know. Thanks for the info.

    • @jeffweston9743
      @jeffweston9743 2 месяца назад +1

      Awesome the one bag thing I've found a out gazelle and someone found a solution!! Nice discovery Sir!

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 месяца назад

      @jeffweston9743 thanks

  • @JarradShaw
    @JarradShaw Год назад +2

    This made me really rethink my setup of a 3p tent compared to a roof top to this set up

  • @buckeyejeeper9996
    @buckeyejeeper9996 2 года назад +3

    I’m gonna have to pitch my old tent that we used for changing. This is exactly what I’ve been looking at and the set up time will be drastically cut down. These are awesome

  • @waxifari5528
    @waxifari5528 2 года назад +8

    As an owner, 100% valid.
    My only addition is we prefer to run the front room floorless and just use as a pure screen room. Save the extra floor for when the main room floor goes.

  • @TOOLMANV2
    @TOOLMANV2 2 года назад +6

    Really good honest review. We have a T-4 and the older design T-4 Plus. They addressed some of my concerns with this new T-4Plus like making the fly on the sides larger but stopped short of enlarging on the ends. I like the changes inside the screen room by moving the screen covers to the outside for better rain protection. We haven't had a problem with bleed through with ours but a friend has had some on his T-4. I don't need another Gazelle, but I am in love with this color and the changes are making me want to buy this one!!!

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +2

      They build a great tent and put some thought into their products. Glad you've enjoyed your Gazelle tents.
      Thanks for watching! - Kelly

  • @johnowens8530
    @johnowens8530 2 года назад +3

    I have had the bleed through concern also, thanks for detailing this reality.

  • @lex2go
    @lex2go 2 года назад +3

    Just ordered the T4 Plus Overland today. Thank you for the product review!

  • @motty328
    @motty328 3 месяца назад +1

    Those 7 loops also let you roll up the sides of the rain fly similar to the front door panels over the mesh, there are little bits underneath to loop into them.
    I've had the T4 plus for 3 years and just discovered this.

  • @barbshubert9667
    @barbshubert9667 Год назад +3

    I don't think I would like a longer rainfly due to air flow restriction. This is one of the reason's I decided on the Gazelle is the rainfly doesn't extend the below the windows / length of sides, thus allowing for air flow into the tent in 3 seasons.

  • @mwallace021
    @mwallace021 2 года назад +5

    I'm running the T3 + . Not as much headroom, but the quality and ease of setup and teardown are so worth it!

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад

      The T3 is a great option!

    • @carmenmartinez2882
      @carmenmartinez2882 Год назад +2

      I’ve had the T3 for years and finally decided to get the T4. I’ve been blasted by downpours and dry as a bone although I’ve yet to treat it. I’ve been very impressed with the quality and performance.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  Год назад

      👍

  • @MDgunship
    @MDgunship Год назад +3

    I don't think what you call "bleed through" is actual rain passing through the tent wall. I would be more likely to believe that it was condensation due to the warm inside and colder outside causing this condensation on the inside of the wall and not rain bleeding through. JMHO

  • @Mr21bdog
    @Mr21bdog 2 года назад +3

    I sure and extra tarp would work well for the bleed threw. Just hook it to the top and stake it to the ground, the extra tie downs on top is perfect for that. Great video

  • @katieoverman9949
    @katieoverman9949 8 месяцев назад +1

    I lost my tent over the weekend due to collapse because of the snow as a mom who takes my kiddos camping solo in all weather really looking into this tent!

    • @katieoverman9949
      @katieoverman9949 8 месяцев назад +1

      Had to leave at 3am due to the collapse and 50mph winds talk about a adventure on spring break in the midwest

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  8 месяцев назад

      That would be an adventure.

  • @JarradShaw
    @JarradShaw Год назад +1

    I have a T3X cause I throw that big boy in a small ‘05 LJ unlimited Rubi. That size just fits. For rain I guy out the side more with some groundhog stakes. That helps a whole lot.

  • @shervinghannadian9651
    @shervinghannadian9651 Год назад +2

    Thanks for the video. I usually camp solo with my four wheel camper on my chevy. Recently got a tacoma and looking to go the t4x or t3x options with the Gazelle. Do those hold up well in winter as well running a little heater in there?

  • @huf67
    @huf67 2 года назад +6

    I own a regular T4 and love it's ease of setup, but being 6'5" tall I wish the doors were easier to get in and out of.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +4

      One of the things that drew us to the T4 plus is the big door on the front. Much easier to navigate than the standard T4 for us.
      Thanks for watching - Kelly

  • @IntoTheMystery13
    @IntoTheMystery13 6 месяцев назад +1

    Good info fellas, thanks for helping me decide.

  • @Redstriker265
    @Redstriker265 2 года назад +4

    We have a t4plus overland edition as well and I have the same agreement about the rainfly on the edges. I did end staking out the ends further out instead of attaching it directly to the tent and that seems to help at least a little.

  • @Wilderness_Recon
    @Wilderness_Recon 2 года назад +5

    Perfect tent with an attached ATV garage 👍. Great review!

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +1

      Thanks for watching. Glad you enjoyed it! - Kelly

    • @miketell8182
      @miketell8182 2 года назад +2

      I have always wondered about this tent and thanks to you I have all my questions answered .I have a roof top tent but like a stationary tent for the same reasons you use yours for. It is amazing how fast it goes up,which is a plus as you stated for the rain. For-me personally the speed is not important . I am just happy to be camping. I also liked your install of the switches .I have had one sitting in the back seat of my gladiator and was deciding if I was going to attack the project,you made the decision easy for me and thanks for that. I was wondering if in Kellie’s tent if there is room for his hood monkey . Great video

    • @kellypw8186
      @kellypw8186 2 года назад +1

      Mike, glad the review helped. And when I do get my hood monkey there will be plenty of room for it in this tent!
      Thanks for watching! - Kelly

  • @thepab3072
    @thepab3072 Год назад +1

    Can you spray on water repellent on the fabric to make it more waterproof?
    I'm on the fence between the Gazelle and the North Face Wawona 6. The Gazelle looks stronger but the North Face looks better at keeping you dry.
    The Gazelle has more windows, and fast install makes camping a lot more fun

  • @OverlandGeneration
    @OverlandGeneration 2 года назад +2

    lol... I'll be damn... I am all over it! Thanks for the shout out!

  • @ry30
    @ry30 2 года назад +1

    One of the best review on the tent!

  • @moxsteel7195
    @moxsteel7195 2 года назад +2

    Two issues I’m wondering if you can answer. 1-the Velcro areas that wrap around the poles how do you feel about insects getting in, is there a lot of open area for that? 2- wind, I understand strapping down the sides but what about the top, is it possible for there to be enough wind to push on the top of the tent?

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +2

      We never have had an insect issue. We have never had the top push down in wind, only the sides.

    • @wendyspangler4824
      @wendyspangler4824 2 года назад +1

      I have not had an issue

  • @donswinner1182
    @donswinner1182 2 года назад +2

    I have the standard T4 plus and love it

  • @jeffmorris739
    @jeffmorris739 2 года назад +4

    I have the T4 and it's the best tent I have ever owned and that's saying something because I have had some nice Eureka's. So easy to set up and spacious. My wife and I use a nice baffled queen sized air bed and it is more comfortable that the king we have at home. We just air down the bed and have full use of the space. I would have preferred the overlanding edition but they are rare has hens teeth right now but the stock version has severed us well so far. Thanks for the review.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +1

      They make great tents! Glad you enjoyed the review. Thanks for watching and sharing your experiences with your Gazelle! - Kelly

  • @BWT599
    @BWT599 2 года назад +2

    Great video. I have the T3 and used it extensively for camping at the motocross track with my young family. I just received this tent, the T4 plus overland and looking forward to using the front part as a small “garage” for my sons’ MX bikes (electric Husky). The only issue I had with the flooring is that if you take it apart from the Velcro, the next time you reinstall the flooring to the Velcro, it won’t be totally flush as when you first buy it. I would have bugs come in through those unvelcro’d channels. Otherwise, love all these tents.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +1

      We have the t4 and have not had that issue. Thanks for the info.

    • @unsinkablemb
      @unsinkablemb Год назад +1

      how do you like the t3 vs t4

  • @paulmercado328
    @paulmercado328 2 года назад +2

    I have the orange version, diesel heater works very well there compare the buddy heater.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +1

      That's the next upgrade. Mike and Lora just got a propex that we have been looking at.

  • @WayneTheSeine
    @WayneTheSeine Год назад +2

    Good review. I think what you view as bleedn through is actually condensation. One way to find out is to set it up under a full tarp or under a carport in cold weather. My guess is, it will still bead water. Most synthetic tents suffer from this. However, your more traditional synthetic tents rainflys come all the way down and condensation accumulates on the fly and simply runs down and drips to the outside. I have a 4 man Alps and have seen it soaked with condensation, water running down the sides, yet have never had one drop enter the tent. However, these tents tend to have netting from the top down to a couple feet or so from the bottom, allowing all condensate to accumulate on the fly. I am seriously interested in this tent but the water issue has me concerned. That being said, I wonder if running a diesel parking heater outside, where the tent is warmed evenly and throughouly, yet does not introduce excess water might help resolve the issue or at least not introduce so much water into the tent. That is the biggest issue with running propane in a tent....water. Great Review, I love this tent.

  • @mrmatt24
    @mrmatt24 2 года назад +2

    Thanks for the detailed review!

  • @fitzventure
    @fitzventure 2 года назад +3

    Strange that you had water blead through. I have one and it's been in some nasty storms, like raining sideways and it's always dry inside. Never had water ingress. Also, it's a good idea to always to guy wire the side panels. If you get a strong wind, the hubs will pop inward and can hit you pretty hard.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад

      Our T4 does not have bleed through. Kelly's T4 plus however does.

    • @carmenmartinez2882
      @carmenmartinez2882 Год назад +2

      Same here, had mine for a few years through heavy rain storms and never leaked.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  Год назад +1

      Maybe it was just something with that T4 plus.

    • @fitzventure
      @fitzventure Год назад +2

      @@CoddiwompleOverland Mine is a T4 Plus. Maybe hit up Gazelle and see if they'll replace it.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  Год назад +1

      Thanks.

  • @EPiQ_cR
    @EPiQ_cR Год назад +1

    Looking to pick up a T4 or T4 Plus soon, possibly TODAY for black friday, haha.
    Just getting back into camping after 15 years away though...Have you found any issue with finding a place to setup? Or how it handles on uneven terrain?

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  Год назад +1

      We have never found an area we could not ste up.

    • @EPiQ_cR
      @EPiQ_cR Год назад +1

      @@CoddiwompleOverland Thanks so much! Video was super helpful.
      T4 Plus Overland ordered (and a roof rack to transport it, haha).

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  Год назад

      Great! You will really like it.

  • @leatherman5637
    @leatherman5637 2 года назад +1

    I really enjoy my Gazelle T4. Very good quality.

  • @JohnHoranzy
    @JohnHoranzy 2 года назад +2

    Review is better than the Gazelle video. They need a better color. The choices are psychotic orange or heat absorbing dark green. I have the big gazebo and the Tan color is very nice.

  • @toddkohut5993
    @toddkohut5993 2 года назад +2

    Excellent review gentleman. It looks like you could probably protect the ends from the rain by rigging in a tarp.

  • @terrytillstrum1712
    @terrytillstrum1712 2 года назад +1

    With regards to the buddy heater, can you send the link for the fan you have attached to it. please.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад

      Here is the link to our Amazon store front you can find the fan in the camping gear. www.amazon.com/shop/coddiwompleoverland

  • @Amaguq1
    @Amaguq1 Год назад +1

    I wonder how hard it would be to make an extended insulated rain fly that will tap into the tent stakes like the standard rain fly?

  • @jimt2316
    @jimt2316 2 года назад +5

    Great review! We picked up a T4 Overland this winter but have yet to take it out. Water could be an issue up here in the pacific northwest. How do you plan to address the water bleed?

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +2

      I'm not sure what the solution is going to be. If I come up with anything that works well we'll put that info out.
      To be fair to Gazelle it's a common issue that can happen with any single wall section of tent exposed to rain in specific conditions, not just theirs.
      Thanks for watching and hope you enjoy that tent! - Kelly

  • @bennie873
    @bennie873 2 года назад +1

    Thanks for reviewing

  • @RSF151
    @RSF151 2 года назад +2

    That’s a great honest review!

  • @robertb880
    @robertb880 2 года назад +3

    Great info. I think this is the tent I'm looking for. I'm 6'6 so that would work well to me, no more hunch back. Thank you for the information.

  • @papatravels61
    @papatravels61 Год назад +1

    Getting rid of my roof top tent for the t4 overland. Being able to stand up and have room is a deal breaker over a roof top

  • @detodog5951
    @detodog5951 2 года назад +1

    I’m returning my new t4 because triangular doors keep tripping people & dogs. Loved the materials. Does t4+ do away with the poorly designed entrances?

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад

      The T4 plus front door is different but the back door is the same design

    • @carmenmartinez2882
      @carmenmartinez2882 Год назад +1

      The doors are necessary that way because of the pop up construction, no other way to put the doors. Personally I think is a small price to pay, if my 16 year old dog can manage I’d assume so can yours, it only took a couple of times.

  • @jtoutdooradventures2232
    @jtoutdooradventures2232 2 года назад +1

    How do you keep the cold draft from coming in from the mesh skylight? it did not hold in the heat whatsoever from our Mr Buddy heater. I understand heat loss is going to happen but damn all that heat just rise up out the mesh top skylight leaving us cold at night. With the rain fly. Wish gazelle make an optional cover for the mesh sjylight inside.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +1

      We close one side off. I can tell you our t4 stays warmer than the double.

    • @jtoutdooradventures2232
      @jtoutdooradventures2232 2 года назад

      @@CoddiwompleOverland we got the t4 plus and we tied down the side as close to the tent as possible but the flaps in the back and front seems to be where the cold wind is entering.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +1

      Humm, I am not sure. We have never felt wind in ours. We have camped as low as 11°.

    • @jtoutdooradventures2232
      @jtoutdooradventures2232 2 года назад

      @@CoddiwompleOverland wow! Is that with or without winds.. I must be doing something wrong. Going to give it another shot this weekend camping on the coast.. ty

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +1

      We have had it in wind, rain and snow.

  • @JarradShaw
    @JarradShaw Год назад +1

    Here’s something else…
    I see y’all had other gladiators and wranglers, some with roof top tents. Even though it’s much bigger… couod this be… maybe… a better base camp option to stake and go and come back to???

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  Год назад

      It could If one chooses to base camp. However we do not base camp, we move everyday.

  • @DoTheWork24
    @DoTheWork24 2 года назад +1

    What is the difference between the T4 and the Overland version to justify the added cost? Is it really just the color?

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад

      According to Gazelles website, the Overland edition comes with more durable floor, all terrain stakes and a water resistant bag.

    • @carmenmartinez2882
      @carmenmartinez2882 Год назад

      Use a tarp for ground cover, go to hardware store get heavy duty construction nails (same size and diameter). Tarp under $20, nails.35 cents each. Save yourself some money.

  • @ashleyself8926
    @ashleyself8926 2 года назад +1

    I’ve watched a ton of these reviews on Gazelle tents and I haven’t seen one person mentioning doing this but I’ll ask anyways…do you have to season these tents or spray water resistance on them like you do other tents?

  • @MrWinger1951
    @MrWinger1951 2 года назад +3

    I have a T3x and it was used everyday for 30 days while overlanding in Colorado and Utah this past Sept/October. It was a very worthwhile investment and it was just my dog and I so we had plenty of room. However, some downsides were the nearly useless stakes, and as you pointed out, it would be nice to have a larger rain fly as an option. Also, in very heavy winds, such as during a thunderstorm that came through outside Moab, the side of the tent actually caved in, on two sides, and I had to pop those sides out before the whole thing collapsed. Fortunately it didn't show any signs of permanent damage. Its not meant to be a 4 season, "all weather" tent but its great for its ease of setup and take down. There have been no leaks or internal condensation either.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад

      Agree with the wind if those side are not tethered down they will collapse in.

    • @harrymills2770
      @harrymills2770 Год назад +1

      You really have to guy these pop-out tents in heavy wind. Also the peak of the roof can be supported with a pole, at least. that
      s how it is with Clam. But very good when staked out.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  Год назад

      Thanks!

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  Год назад

      @harrymills2770 Thanks!

  • @paulelliott682
    @paulelliott682 2 года назад +3

    Finally a Gazelle tent NOT in Hunter Orange !

  • @WJuliet61
    @WJuliet61 2 года назад +1

    I wonder if a tarp over the top would help with bleed through water.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +1

      Someone else mentioned doing this on the ends.

    • @WJuliet61
      @WJuliet61 2 года назад

      @@CoddiwompleOverland Well that's good that others are doing it. I really want to try out this tent and use it for winter camping.

  • @douglascastro6674
    @douglascastro6674 2 года назад +1

    I too wish the carrying bag had handles on both ends.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад

      Yes, it definitely needs them.

    • @surfinwaves4769
      @surfinwaves4769 2 года назад +1

      @@CoddiwompleOverland a thought from Oz: I have the 2021 T4+ OE… it has cinching straps at each end of the weatherproof bag. If you cinch them enough to hold the contents neatly together but with enough slack to fit a hand under each strap when secured, it becomes very strong and effective lifting straps at each end of the bag allowing effective lifting.
      Great review thanks and seeing it used in snow was eye opening. I was thinking of it as a summer tent.

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад

      Great idea!

  • @Regnarrussell
    @Regnarrussell 2 года назад +2

    You should stake out the back of the rain fly. Idk why it has a little elastic hook but it acts like a funnel straight to the grommet that passes through to inside of the tents. I love my T4+ OE and sold my Roof Top Tent because this was so much easier and bigger.

  • @claudiapatry9454
    @claudiapatry9454 2 года назад +1

    Hello ! ..Your Tent Is Very Nice ! . I Saw the intérieur Was in a Pâle Color ! But What Color is Your Tent ! ? ..

  • @jerryandjamie2up
    @jerryandjamie2up 2 года назад +3

    We have been using a T4 for a couple of years camping out of our 2dr JK. We love the T4. One negative is how large the stowed tent is. I bet that the addition just adds twice as much for storage. Thanks for the great video. One final note, if there are high winds the hubs will push in, if not tied down.. don't ask us how we know. Haha 🤣🤣

  • @cincicycles
    @cincicycles 2 года назад +2

    Great informational video. Question about the single wall bleed through concern…. Do you think applying something like the 303 Fabric Guard or some other hydrophobic spray would help eliminate the bleed through?

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +3

      Great question! I was thinking about trying some spray DWR to see if it helps. If it does, I'll post an update.
      Thanks for watching! - Kelly

    • @xxcrazypiratexx
      @xxcrazypiratexx Год назад +1

      @@CoddiwompleOverland any updates?

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  Год назад

      As of now, we have not had it out in a rain.

  • @DavesRvRepair
    @DavesRvRepair 2 года назад +3

    Great review👍👍

  • @knowledgeseeker3188
    @knowledgeseeker3188 9 месяцев назад

    To Kelly: what is the brand of the shirt you're wearing in this video?

  • @nc_mtbmedic1399
    @nc_mtbmedic1399 2 года назад +2

    So guessing it is not a 4 season tent

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +2

      Good question! The material is really heavy but the top is all mesh. We've had it out in 12 -14f and I'm comfortable using it in cold weather but don't think it would technically be considered a 4 season tent.
      Though I've spent plenty of time in tents in the cold and snow, I've never owned a proper "4 season" tent for direct comparison so I don't consider myself an expert.
      Thanks for watching! - Kelly

    • @MrWinger1951
      @MrWinger1951 2 года назад +1

      Its not a 4 season tent. You might look at Kodiak Canvas tents for that type of camping, much heavier but will last through just about any weather.

  • @megdahlin1118
    @megdahlin1118 2 года назад +1

    Can somebody please tell me the maximum length of a cot that would fit in this tent, laying in the same direction as the bed in this video? I just want to make sure that my 84 in (7foot) cot will fit in here. TIA

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад +1

      You 7 foot cot would work fine. The T4 has an 8x8 foot print and T4plus have 8x16

    • @megdahlin1118
      @megdahlin1118 2 года назад

      Thank you so much I kind of thought it would but somebody was hell bent on telling me it would not I think they may have wanted to place their cot facing out towards the screen room versus against the back wall. I don't care where mine goes as long as it fits!

  • @wendyspangler4824
    @wendyspangler4824 2 года назад +1

    I have 2. Love um.

  • @slickmouf879
    @slickmouf879 9 дней назад

    To claim to know so much about gazelle tents, he is dead wrong about the seven tiedowns on the side… those are not tiedowns at all! Those are for rolling those flaps up on each side so that you don’t have to tie them down to the ground and you have an option to tie them up out of the way if you don’t want the flaps all the way down on the sides. To tie anything to those seven loops that he called tiedowns would probably rip right out of the fabric of the tent because they’re not made to hold the weight or stress points of the tent in wind. They are made to hold the rain fly up on each side whenever you choose to roll it up!!!

  • @mavifeeyakier9593
    @mavifeeyakier9593 2 года назад

    rain.??? what a dissapointment !!! 👎👎

    • @CoddiwompleOverland
      @CoddiwompleOverland  2 года назад

      Yes, it was not horrible but it did leak some.

    • @carmenmartinez2882
      @carmenmartinez2882 Год назад

      Mine has never leaked, not treated and under some severe downpours. Just saying.

  • @jamesmceraghan9165
    @jamesmceraghan9165 2 года назад +1

    YOU WOULD 🤔 THINK THE T4+ OVERLAND TAKING AWAY XTRA HANDLE WOULD HAVE BEEN NICE ENOUGH TO FILL THAT SPACE WITH THRU WHEELS MADE FOR OVER LANDSCAPE TRAVEL and Switch out wheels for small skis in winter remove floor ya got ice fishing camp castle GLAMPING