What They SHOULD Do with Combat Patrol
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- Опубликовано: 10 сен 2024
- Games Workshop has a great opportunity with the new Combat Patrol and 10th edition Warhammer 40,000 - and I think I know what they should do.
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Official alternate Combat Patrol lists would be such a smart idea for growing a full-size army too as it would allow a new player to change up their 500pt games while gradually walking them up to having the units for higher point match ups without the jump of suddenly going from 500pts to 1500-2000pts.
I'm also glad they're finally starting revist the idea of Inquisitorial retinues; rag tag groups of assorted badasses, specialists and wierdos is such a fun part of 40k's background.
Schaeffer's team (Imperial Guard) :)
I am worried that the Warrior Acolytes will lose a lot of their options.
Stuff like Needle Pistols and Thunder Hammers.
I love 40K, but 1K or 2K armies just feel daunting.. And I get severe hobby burnout when having to paint 50 dudes in the same style 😅 So having something like Combat Patrol that can feel more akin to skirmish games seems cool, love Kill Team as it allows me to collect more factions, not just go all in on one expensive army and that's it. Boarding Actions was cool, smaller lists, but larger scale than Kill Team. I would want to see narrative campaigns for Combat Patrol also.
Loved the video! The Ashes of Faith Combat Patrol idea is cool! I would love it if the Combat Patrol game mode got popular enough to incentivize Games Workshop to make an even wider variety of Combat Patrol boxes. Maybe you could get several Combat Patrol boxes for a faction, each focuses on a specific play style or something like that.
Even just some alternative lists would be cool. Kind of like they do for kill team.
My prediction; combat patrol articles in White Dwarf and then a compendium book like Warcry and Kill Team have gotten.
Either way its a way of providing extra options for armies without putting out new boxes all the time.
In the WarCom article where they talk about the other contents of the box, there's pictures of the big rulebook. On one of them, you can see the Tyranid Combat Patrol, and what I assume might be the Space Marine one. It has 5 Terminators, the new Infernus Squad with 5 guys in it, the new Terminator captain, and the Terminator Librarian.
That could be it. It’d be interesting to have Terminators in a Combat Patrol list. Thanks for watching!
It was the 5 sternguard veterans not the inferno squad. The inferno squads come in units of 10 same as hellblasters. I have already done the points calculations of the Space Marine side using current point values of all of the units in that combat patrol. It adds up to a base 460 points but not clue whether point values will go up or down for certain units
@@foreverfornever1124 I think you just answered your question...
Is impossible that GW makes something for free.
If GW launch "special datasheets" for combat patrols, I'm pretty sure that you will need to buy a book or maybe White Dwarf to get those.
I don’t disagree. Thanks for watching!
Hmm wishes:
1) Rules that support all the ways you can build units that are in the box, not just the build on the box cover.
2) Rules for units in Combat Patrol sized multiples. For example the Sisters of Battle box has 3 Arco-flagellants and 4 Repentia, being able to add more of those in multiples of 3 and 4 would be great.
3) Them to trash the current Combat Patrol boxes and replace them with the Boarding Patrol boxes. The Boarding Patrol boxes are by and large more balanced already and often make better starting points for armies anyway.
The current way I personal start a new army for both financial, practical and in a way, narrative means - is to try them out in kill team, if I enjoy playing them, painting them etc then move to boarding patrol and slowly up to a full scale army.
This gives me the sense of taking this rag tag group and growing it to a full fledge force, slowly unravelling the mechanics of the army and actual manage to get my models painted. Instead of just dropping 2 months rent on a twin set of christmas boxes just to be overwhelmed with a huge project. This way reminds me more of how I used to build armies in my early teens during 3rd
Warmachine used to do something sort of similar for their versions of escalation leagues, where you could start the league with just the army’s starter, or if you didn’t like it or had a big collection they released alternate starting lists using different models that still weren’t oppressive early in the league
I really like this idea, and I wonder if it could be a pattern for other big boxes going forward. For example like the Christmas battleforces, each of those could have a built in combat patrol in them that would include some portion of those minis but would be a limited time alternative to the combat patrols they sell on the shelves
What is actually going to happen is, they will put out lists with a steady power creep that include their highest-margin SKUs, or models that only come as part of large boxes.
Another possibility is that all Combat Patrol legal units ends up having two (or more) stats/datacards. One for 40K and one for Combat Patrol. This would allow people to customize their combat patrol, and GW to release Combat Patrol rules for Kill Team stuff that wouldn't make sense in 40K armies.
Based on the lore, I'd like to see new non-Tau units added to that faction. Seeing some Terran units that defected to the Tau or even Farsight enclave would be cool. Maybe some small Astra Militarum unit jumped ship and are kitted out with a mix of terran/tau weaponry.
Back when they first introduced Grey Knights to the game, they didn't have a Grey Knights codex, they had a Deamonhunters codex that combined Inqisitors and their retinue with the Grey Knights into one army. I loved that codex because of all the combinations and potential for customizing miniatures the Inquisitor's retinue provided.
I'm really excited about getting this new narrative box, but I hope they expand the concept into a force that can be included in the other Imperial factions.
I think losing list building is throwing the baby out with the bathwater. Even with the altered datasheets, they could just release a sort of Combat Patrol Index to have datasheets and armylist specifically for this format. Having premade boxes with lists is great for beginners, but I’m not a beginner, I just like smaller games.
I would totally build a combat patrol for an ordo xenos inquisitor and a deathwatch kill team and some guardsmen. Sounds awesome!
I hope your idea comes through. I'd love to see Crisis Suits for the T'au. I always need Crisis Suits.
You can also 3d print bits and double the box.
Thanks for the video.
In theory, there's nothing stopping them from making ComPat lists for every box of appropriate size (or bigger) in the future. The holiday bundles, the big 2 player vs boxes (GSC/Custodes, TSons/GKs) anything like that.
Since there are build options with the inquisitors they could do, here is build option A, B or C and pair it with these troops of 1, 2 or 3. Kinda a mix and match combat patrol. Easily a fun White Dwarf that comes out during the release window. And what about the Chaos side of the box. With all those figs you almost are up to a combat patrol. And lastly all codex books should have some fun options
The idea of including boarding patrol boxes in combat patrol would be really cool!
the only problem with that is boarding patrol was geared towards 1k point list and some of them didnt have any HQ options. So idk if theyll do that, plus the boarding patrol boxes are out of issue now, as they were limited runs for arks of omen. However boarding patrol could also become a permanent game type of its own as well. It would really give a nice variety to game formats for 40k
@@foreverfornever1124 1) Boarding Patrol is 500 points just lije Combat Patrol.
2) Boarding Actions is an ongoing battle type.
@@ChrisKCook oh ok I thought they were 1k point games for some odd reason, thanks for clearing that up. And yes boarding actions is still ongoing, however the box sets arent still going on was my point pertaining to the orginial commentors mention of the boarding patrol boxes
@@foreverfornever1124 are they limited run? I've not seen that said anywhere.
These are some good ideas for adding to the narrative side of the hobby. Having custom scenarios with specific lists could help deal with the ongoing competitive meta.
You could even have scenarios where points are unbalanced but scenario rules offset it.
The idea of GW making other Combat Patrol rules for units that aren't in the boxes but they should be able to be used to make your own Combat Patrol.
I really have a hard time with the pre-made lists. Just looking at the boarding action boxes - which definitely worked to hook me with additional factions - there are some really great fluffy ones and then there are boxes that... well... no, they don't feel right (for example I've got the Grey Knights, which gave me 3 different units + 1 character and I actually can use the terminators also as paladins and get 2 more character options out of it - while the Thousand Sons have 20 rubric and 2 chaos spawns which forced me to get 2 other boxes to actually have some variation and flair in that list).
I know we will be getting new combat patrol boxes, but the current ones aren't really great to get a feeling of the faction. Looking at the Space Marines they all just got filled up with random Primaris, but it actually does pretty little to make them feel like the different chapters sometimes.
So yeah, either games workshop will do new patrol box sets for all factions or at the very least give a bunch of alternative lists for downloads. I do expect for example that Vashtorr vs Azrael will provide us also with 2 combat patrols (the Dark Angels in there are 500 points if I'm not mistaken and definitely are more fitting than the primaris box).
I see future combat patrols being the two halfs of the Battleboxes GW like to put out, Like the Wrath of the Soul Forged King, or Blood of the Phoenix etc.
I keep hearing all this enthusiasm for 10th edition. But then I listened to the Discource Minis report from Warhammer Fest and it sounds like Games Workshop isn't going to do things that differently. Hope I am wrong. The Combat Patrol lists in the starter box using part of each half is encouraging. We'll see what happens.
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I would love to see different lists.
Standard - Combat Patrol Box
Scout - Recon/light force
Elite - small Elite force on a raid
I would love to see more options for kill teams and combat patrols. I personally don't want to have a huge army. I'd rather have a few different fun smaller groups.
Honestly I think they should do what so many other war game companies have done and that is make actually playable 2 player themed boxes, and that’s kinda where combat patrol and leviathan shows promise. If they can cut the fat in the box and also reduce the cost then they can actually make it a great entry people to get up and going quickly. Looking at you 2e starter
they should give rules for most common models for combat patrol, let people who have huge armys have choice in what they deploy, but someone who bought the box and wants to change out a unit, and wants to buy a box of bikes, or a squad of other units, change things out at that 500 points. you'll get people steadily adding to their combat patrol, and more likely to get a full blown army built in the end!
I bet those Dang Tazaangors could take me high enough.
Good points in the video. Hope all the new combat patrol boxes come with cool new models and balance them out a bit better between boxes. Would love a combat patrol for a knight.
actually, what I'd like to see are combat patrol versions of all model stat sheets. then you really can use any model you want under the 500 point limit. they can totally tweak the values to make all factions viable.
I love your enthusiasm for combat patrol! I hope I'm wrong, but I expect GW sees CP as the free-to-play 40k, so they *want* people to be hungry for additional features which they only offer in the full game. Of course, the community could develop their own extensions to CP to keep it interesting...
I miss the combat patrol of the 4th (I think) edition. It was a fun little mode to play in a very short time, that could be linked to bigger battles in a campaign, and used to introduce new players in the game (with some list building too, albeit very limited)
But it has its own rules for discretion and was very fun.
I doubt we will ever get something as close as what was, in essence, "A-teams" fighting against sentinels and accomplishing missions as smooth as the initial plan was (but sometimes hilariously not)
It worked for Kill Team
It definitely makes sense that they would put out some alternative combat patrol data sheets, especially for armies like Thousand Sons, which don’t have their iconic model (rubric marines), as it would get people to buy more models at the full price, and not the discount combat patrol box. I suppose it would need to be done carefully though, so that they don’t end up too overpowered within the focus of the format. I just hope GW don’t decide that combat patrol is for new people to the game, and that they never move it beyond that first step into the 2000-point army. It could be a great way to play!
It would be super cool if GW is going for a balanced squad based skirmish mode in the 40k setting. I don't play 40k but I love the new Kill-Team and something between those two would be super cool. As you mentioned, imagine: An Inquisitor and his imperial agent army plus some Deathwatch-Marines against a growing Genestealer-Cult. It would be hard to not dive it a chance.
Thanks for the video, fun as always!
Cheers!
Downloaded Prohammer Classic rules and using combat patrol rules from 4th edition with it. Not going to bother keeping up with GW shenanigans.
Going to get those new terminators at some point though. :D
Thanks for the tip. I will look into this now.
(4th ed Combat Patrol was so much fun...)
@@stitch77100 prohammer was a nice find. It's tuned 3rd/4th with some elements from later editions. You need original codex books though.
Always so great to listen to you Uncle Atom!
I would be perfectly stoked to build a dedicated orks or tau vs deathwatch marines combat patrol boxed set and keep them for intro/small fun games. Maybe some small protable terrain too.....hmmm...
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I had missed entirely that they would release new Combat Patrol lists, and that is really good news. That gives people a chance to play CP even if they do not own *the* actual box set. Plus, it gives more variety too since as you mentioned in the video, some of the combat patrols might not be to everyone's tastes. Some are fantastic and have loads of variety, while others are very heavy with chaff, or alternatively very elite-focused. The best CP boxes, in my opinion, are those that give you a balanced selection of everything, which most (fortunately) do!
I’d be all over this. Combat Patrol sounds like the way I will be interested in playing the new version of 40k, and I would love if they put out some more lists beyond what already comes in the Combat Patrol lists.
I agree with you on wanting to see an Inquisition boxed set. Maybe a plastic Inquisitor, an Assassin, a retinue of the Ashes of Faith minis, a couple five man squads of scions, and a Taurox or something along those lines.
I think it’d be a great sales boost for some additional minis in the various ranges. Could even play into the old mail order specials they used to do.
I can definitely see this being their tactic for the versus boxes they put out periodically.
The only wrinkle I see is them having to spend time balancing & tweaking the new combat patrol bundles which takes developers away from codexes, etc.
Anyone in here old enough to remember 'Regiments of Reknown' (sp?) they had for early editions of Warhammer Fantasy Battles ?
*that* is what 'combat patrol' boxes should be like.
Not the generic 1 box per faction they do now ... (although technically spacemarines get several boxes ... ).
Imagine Blood Axes and Snake bytes boxes for Orks.
Or the various Eldar Craftworlds with their distinct units in a box.
Agreed. This is what they should do with combat patrol. They won’t but they should. As others have said, 4th ed combat patrol was the pinnacle for combat patrol, meaning it was going in the right direction with guidelines for force construction allowing a high degree of freedom and flexibility. I am not really a fan of prescriptive lists especially when balance is in question. All that said, I am keen for ashes of faith, it looks like a great box for Indy games like stargrave and space station zero.
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I hope they do that, I very much enjoy the idea of this new combat patrol but some of the boxes aren't what I want to build up and paint. Fingers crossed they give us lists for the Indomitus box too
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I'd love to see a few combat patrol lists for my Orks.
Yes you are crazy but that is why I enjoy watching your vids. I like the idea of being able to use whatever minis you have to play CP
I hope it's more like the compendium for kill team. You get generic leaders, and then you pick your army. Probably smaller pointed units, nothing big because it is combat patrol.
I'd love to see them do this. One of my gaming buddies was suggesting combat patrol to draw me back to 40k out of my skirmish game hole and I said I didn't like the lack of list building. If eventually there were a few list options for factions I liked I bet there would be lists that looked fun to me. I was just looking at the current boxes and thinking those weren't the toy soldiers I was most interested in.
I like the idea that GW could/would publish multiple balanced Combat Patrol lists per faction over time. I understand that it will provide extra granularity in helping with balance, but I am not a fan of having different stat-lines for the same units between Combat Patrol and 40k.
Combat Patrol makes me think I might be able to manage big 40K. Kill Team and other skirmish style games have been my jam. I could paint two factions with reasonable body counts and play. I also got the variety of pulling in multiple factions. I didn't need armies. Maybe combat patrol will bridge that gap and permit this old guy to actually play 40K proper in this edition.
I can see it now .. monthly combat patrols containing whatever minis are not selling + some things that go with them
I would certainly like a Combat Patrol Necrons list that uses the Indomitus contents (That could be my excuse to build and use some leftover minis I have.) I could see a Beastmen and Traitor Guard team up using Killteam or Blackstone Fortress minis. If GW could see that the Combat Patrol toehold will lead many people into bigger armies there could be a lot more players out there.
This feels a little like a drug dealer model here. The first one is free..
I do like accessibility. My younger son and I played Battle for Vedros many times. He played Marines and I played Orks. The rules were simple and the games were fun. It didn't upscale too well. Battle for Vedros let my younger son start 40K at a much earlier age than my older son.
I am also hoping 10th edition will be easier for casual players to have a quick game.
frankly i think i would prefer if they just came out with combat patrol data sheets for every unit within reason. looking over at other companies, Mantic Games' Kings of War recently got a sort of small-scale-gamemode called ambush, which tweaks that game's list building restrictions to help iron out problems. granted, it's a relatively easy thing to say "these units are banned and these ones are irregular now" and so on vs completely new data sheets for everything, but then, games workshop is a much larger company, with a lot more manpower to throw at these types of problems, and i imagine only a small proportion of units actually need to be totally rewritten.
I'd like to see some variant lists but i think they should fixed whole fixed lists not just the individual datasheets, this way it continues to be that easier to access entry game for newer players, and it can be balanced by GW rather than players cheesing (as much as GW does "balancing")
Hopefully it's good, but I'm not that optimistic. I think combat patrol is going to be the power level of this edition - An easier alternative to the main game and points system, but one that's quickly going to be broken open competitively and they'll start ignoring when they realise it's a whole another game to balance and maintain.
Hard to know if they'll make this effort. If not then support within a popular army builder app for a community effort might plug the gap?
Though you'd need a way for people to rate the lists, so balanced ones, rather than powerful ones, would rise to the top.
I think you are right and it's probably the future for GW to expand more on the skirmish version of their games.
I like the idea for the new play I'm from UK and watch listen from both side of the pond . I'm going to get the leviathan set because of what you said about combat patrol's in box I'm a new player to this looking forward to future great content keep up the good work cheers🎉
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I'm really excited for Combat Patrol, but I'll be damned if I can't work out a way to play it with whatever I've already got.
There'll be a system/algorithm/template we can work out to make 'every' datasheet Combat Patrol balanced.
From some of the preview stuff I've seen for the Leviathan models it's a simple case of removing special rules/strats from a unit so that it isn't overpowered in a small scale game.
We'll work it out... And probably long before GW publishes officially...
GW released an image with all the Codexes planned for 10th edition, and Imperial Agents was on it. So I have to believe that there will be an Imperial Agents Combat Patrol box launched with the Codex when it comes out.
I wanted a better rogue trader kill team. Where I could build my own team. This is like that. The old rogue trader box is the reason I started get into the last edition. It was kinda a stand alone box. Two teams and a narrative story line. So that’s what this is for new players. They can buy these and only ever play this like a normal board game.
I love the idea of a combat patrol box, but I hate half the models in the Sisters box (arco flagellants and penitent engines.
But that inquisitorial retinue and an inquisitor would be awesome sauce in a sisters army.
I like the fact that you can just pick up a combat patrol box for your particular faction or army and play that. It’s accessible in that you don’t need to spend as much money and you can play a smaller game. I’m looking forward to this. I just picked up a World Eaters Combat Patrol box. Now I really like your idea also and feel GW should indeed do that!
Anything that shortens the distance from kill team to combat patrol would greatly benefit Both players An GW
So just allowing killteam boxes to combine into patrols (with maybe an added heavy/character/vehicle) would be a HUGE Yes! From me
Friend's idea, release data sheets for Necromunda model use in Kill Team
I thought that too! But I forgot to put it in notes for the video. Thanks for watching!
It might be a stretch but I’m hoping they eventually put out combat patrol rules for the Indomitus box. Those are my only 40k models so it’d be nice to get an easy way to use them
Yeah, that’d be good for the folks who bought that box and still haven’t finished it. Thanks for watching!
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Age of Sigmar has their free warscrolls for hopefully all of their models you can get online. That would be nice for them to do for combat patrol to have free updates stats for all of the expensive models I keep buying
They’ve said all the data sheets for Combat Patrol will be free - but I thought they said at some point that all the regular 40k data sheets will be free, as well… just like Age of Sigmar. That would be refreshing. Thanks for watching!
I agree with you on that. Releasing combat patrol datasheets will hopefully not make other players custom combat patrols invalid and hopefully balanced. It’s hard enough as it is to juggle around my models with the list building especially after buying the model already.
So basically what kill team currently does, right? They release rules for teams (some free, some paid) and you can use existing models or you buy a kill team box.
great for boarding actions as well
It would be good if a CP points list was released - they must have one. However using your existing models means you're not buying new ... Really like the apparent Chaos upgrading system, in game. Models can swap out to 'more possessed'. Scary.
I realy would like to have an Combat Patrol List for the older pre Primaris stuff. So that you could run a list with normal Cadians, Space Marines etc.
They should also release Combat Patrol data sheets for all of the versus boxes and army boxes they put out. Like a Dark Angels range refresh is rumored to be around the corner, so when the inevitable army box is dropped with all the new models, release a Combat Patrol list for it!
Also release list with the Christmas Battleforce boxes.
Writing this before I watch the video but I think they should put a build your own Combat Patrol where you can swap just a couple (not all) units from the box for something else. Just a thought.
Edit: Watched your video seems like we had similar views lol
It's like adding a 3rd game to play with the same models - KT, CP, 40k
Great idea but, to be honest, the wider the range of options in Combat Patrol lists, the tougher it becomes getting balanced games. Given the difficulty they have had in the past with game balance, I think they should stick to the plan and get the combat patrol boxes tightly balanced. Ultimately Combat Patrol needs to stay focused on its primary goal as an entry level play experience. IMHO. Once a player gets bored or wants to grow their collections and forces the full game is where they should be moving.
I'd love to see new lists offered. I have a space wolves army of all firstborn marines and would love to be able to field them in a CP but the marine CP are all primaris
"Which is in the England" haha I love it
Uncle Atom; apologies this is off topic but with +200k subscribers GW might watch your content?
I got Gallowfall into my checkout but it was sold out before my human fingers could complete the payment. Scalper-bot programmes running at computer speed presumably bought them all?
I think many of your viewers would welcome your thoughts on this growing issue as GW are clearly encouraging/being targeted by scalpers and don’t seem to want to fix the issue.
Have you ever wondered why you can’t buy plane tickets from 3rd part sellers on eBay at scalper prices? Yes there are security issues but thankfully airlines know that if you sell your product to scalpers you become removed from your customers as they become the scalpers customers.
This is a serious issue and perhaps you could reach out to GW for comment on a balanced review of where they’ve got themselves re releases.
Thanks and keep up the good work.
As a content creator it must be disappointing to create videos for subscribers who really have little chance of paying ‘sticker price’ for the figures.
One Page Rules defections must be hurting GW sales. Or maybe people are defecting to other games. I might actually play GW rules again, if they remove the 'no 3D printed minis' rules and go minis agnostic. If not... well I'll continue to stick to OPR GDF, GDF:F.
I’m cautiously optimistic about the new combat patrols.😊
They probably wont give out new free list at the start as much as that would be nice like they do for killteam with white dwarf or the intercession team. More than likely theyll drip feed a new combat patrol for each faction as they get their new codex. This year is technically a total of 6 new combat patrols if we count guard and World Eaters. But for 10th the 4 armies that will be getting one are in need of a new one the most. The space marine one is garbage, as well as the necron one. I dont know too much about the ad mech box other than GW always seems to want to add the same units to any Ad mech box set. And of course Nids get one but I hear their current one is actually pretty good. I can imagine with the World Eaters and Guard range refresh along with their combat patrols so close to the launch of 10th they may just decide to use them for 10th and not give them a new one later in the editon. The Votann one I think will be redone as they are about to get a second wave of models along with anything else they get this editon so probably will have a new combat patrol at some point.
Does anyone know if the currently available CP boxes will work or will they release new lists of models that will equal a CP?
I hope they do more supergroups, like Corax, Khan, Dorn and El'Jonson, Traveling Lieutenants or something along those lines.
Great idea...😊
I just wonder why agents of the inquisition couldn't also come into battle with a few Sisters of Battle, Deathwatch, or Grey Knights?
Inquisitorial retinue matched with Death Watch would be very thematic. I really love Kill Team, but if done correctly and maintaining the streamlined rules idea, could Combat Patrol oust Kill Team as the go to, small scale game of choice?
Kill Team is certainly smaller (smaller play area, fewer models) so I don’t know that there’s a direct comparison. Thanks for watching!
Thanks for the video! I like the idea, but I’d be surprised if they implement it for Combat Patrol datasheets so widely. I agree the Conat Patrol lists for the starter box was a good idea. I think GW would be smart to put Combat Patrol lists in their battle boxes (generally split between two people) e.g. Eldritch Omens. As for avoiding tzaangors, would it be possible to use the Combat Patrol datasheets for the rubrics to take some amount to still get the same balance?
Awesome video, and definitely need to make it so we can make faction soup lists.
i was never much of a tyranid guy, but these new bugs are rad
I’m thinking of getting back in to war games but I might just get out my copies of Rogue Trader and Necromunda and play it like a skirmish role play game.
Great idea. However, feels like they want to tie these combat patrol lists in with boxes avail for purchase. i could see the kill team box you mentioned maybe getting lists too as that would add value to their products but i can’t see them spending a lot of time and resource into helping people get value out of products they have already bought. i’m very interested to see how combat patrol plays out though.
I agree - it’s more likely to be used as a value add for boxes like the Kill Team one. But a guy can dream, can’t he? Also, they can hold other lists in their back pocket for next year or after to help “reinvigorate” Combat Patrol if they think it needs it. Thanks for watching!