Changing Save Batteries PROPERLY (SNES)
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- Опубликовано: 23 ноя 2013
- I've seen people tape new batteries in, but that's ghetto, stupid, and sloppy. This is how it should be done: with a battery holder. Regular battery holders from PC motherboards are too tall for SNES cartridges, so I used this one here:
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Please be advised not to use plumbing solder as it contains acid, look for rosin core solder if you are to work with any electronics
Any particular size you recommend?
@@willshin9388 I honestly just used what I had handy. Wasn’t too heavy of a gauge, maybe .711?
Thanks for the intel👍
I Work in a retro game store. I find Red Tools: 0.032" is best. Lead free and pretty cheap and always effective.
Thanks again for this video and the links. I bought the stuff and replaced the batteries on 8 of my SNES and Super Famicom cartridges. I even managed to swap A link to the Past's battery fast enough to not lose the save.
Excellent! Glad my video was of use.
is there a way i can just pay somebody to replace my battery? i'm not confident enough to use a sauter and i dont have one anyways
It will probably cost you like 10 dollars depending on where you live.
Watched 10 videos..this was the best method. Most pry of the battery and tape or re solder. Tape is great if you don't want to solder..but I like this clean method. Some say the holders are too large..you link to one that works. Thanks. I just started collecting and only have 1 game, and a couple on the way...so will have to try this.
I did this with a snes Zelda game. Carefully pried the old battery out, inserted a new one. Wrapped it with one turn of electrical tape to position the battery between the contacts and a small, folded piece of cardboard to press the contacts against the battery with the cartridge assembled. Works great. Game saves progress just like new. Also gently sanded the contacts with 300 grit paper (wet/dry)
I bought a few 2032 battery holders from Radio Shack.The batteries don't snap in like the one you have. They have that long metal positive strip going across the top. The battery keeps coming out. Any suggestions?
Very nice and neat! I didn't think the battery holder would fit in the cartridge case. Great channel, make more vids, please!
How come Final Fantasy VI Snes cartridge delete saves sometimes? i mean battery cant be dead, cause i can still save again.
Does it somehow recharge that battery when power is on, and if not played in many weeks battery goes zero and there goes the saves??.
It's probably something you did to upset God :-)
Urban Exploration Finland with Janne Flinck I'm wondering the same thing... I lost my data, but it still saves now. So I'm not sure if it's the battery or not, waiting on my game bit so I can open it up... But I wanna make sure I know why it erased it before I start over!
I have the same battery holder, the part number is CH7410-2032.
Is it good for taller boards?
Thanks for the model# I was able to order off RS Components.
Is particular placing important when soldering the battery clip to the board? Do the holes in the board correspond to a particular arm on the clip?
Yup, there's a positive on the holder that has to correspond to the positive hole in the board. In general if the two holes are placed vertically then the lower one is the positive, if horizontally then the right one is the positive.
I checked the website for the battery holder and it has a quantity of 500? I tried changing it to 20 and it sent me to a different order item. Looks the same but how can i tell if its the same battery holder.
I linked to the Canadian version of the website, so if you live in a different country, then that might be what's causing you troubles. The part number is S8421-45R. You can just google it and there should be plenty of places to purchase it from.
Hi, would putting in a battery holder also work for N64 carts ?
Enjoyed your video, and am going to attempt on an old NES game with a battery, but am wondering if the battery holders you linked are shipped from cananda, as i am in nova scotia
Its been a while, so I'm not sure if it ships from Canada or the states. I'm in Ontario and it got here no problem.
link says item unavailable.. new link please?
What about battery polarity? If the holder is hooked up backwards will the game still work/save? Will it be be ruined?
+Scooter George in the video I mentioned that it's not possible to hook it up the wrong way
Hi how do I change the battery if the Snes cartridge already has a battery holder installed i am wondering
Where would one purchase a battery holder?
This tutorial is nice but it seems to be missing info regarding properly orienting the battery holder with regards + and -. Is that an oversight or am I missing something?
I didn't really make it clear in the video, but the battery holder only fits one way, so no worries about putting it on the wrong way around.
YellowSuperNintendo I see. Does that also apply to Super Famicom cartridges as well?
Ragnorok64 Yes, this applies to all Super Nintendo and Super Famicom cartridges.
"Upgrades people! Upgrades!" Great content, definitely the way to go for preservation of these older game carts. People may argue it dilutes the authenticity but I say, it future proofs it. These carts are getting older and rougher as time goes by this will give it longevity.
Wow, thanks so much! ^^ I followed every instruction and it worked perfectly.
For removal of the battery, I used a desoldering braid. Is there any reason why you decided to remove it this way? I am wondering if you've tried the braid method, and if you find this method easier.
The reason I didn't use a desoldering braid is simply because I don't have one. I have never used one either.
+YellowSuperNintendo I really like the idea of that battery holder.
I assume you have to put the holder in a certain way. Neg-Pos etc?
Always.
If the battery has not died yet and the saves are still good ... and you want to keep those saves ... there might be a way to save your data from being erased when changing the battery.
Basically, you solder a 3 volt battery into the circuit *in parallel* with the save game battery. Unlike wiring a battery in series with another battery, wiring a battery in parallel should not increase the voltage but, instead, increase the effective capacity to its load.
More importantly, the battery wired in parallel will ensure needed power constantly remains to sustain the RAM while the old battery is taken out of the circuit. Then, you solder in the new battery, disconnect the temporary battery, and check it out.
The pitfall may be shorting either of the batteries in the whole process, causing a short circuit. As electricity will always flow towards the path of least resistance, a short could deprive the RAM of electricity, causing data loss.
Thank you so much for this very informative video. It really helps me out alot!👍
How long does the battery last before you need to replace it again?
+Rabih CPU not sure, honestly. Sometimes they last decades, sometimes not long. I think changing them every 10 years would be reasonable
The battery in my Super Mario World cartridge lasted over 20 years before it died.
Are you sure you wanna have the battery in place while using the soldering iron? Seems a little risky to me.
Those are simple alkaline batteries, they're not gonna explode.
Will this battery holder fit in a nes game cartridge?
Yes
Do they still sell these batteries?
Does this still work on Final Fantasy 6? I recently bought it for the SNES and the battery is completely dead.
I don't see why not. I'm pretty sure all SNES games have the same battery.
YellowSuperNintendo Alright, thanks. I've never done this before, but the game was $45 so I'm not getting a different copy.
Nice method! Though, wouldn't keeping the battery in the holder while soldering it back on risk an explosion?
Cool video I think I'll put the battery holders in from now on rather than just changing out the entire battery and soldering it every time
Super smart method. By doing this you only have to soder one time/cartridge. I'm definetly doing this =)
That was dope, just repaired a Gameboy game with ghetto techniques, but I'm going to look into those battery holders.
I like that you used the term ghetto. I think I might hire someone to do this for me.
I'm 33 years old and just discovering that these used a watch battery to store saved games.
I feel like a dumbass because I just attempted this and couldn't get the original battery out. The metal around the tabs melted, but the battery wouldn't come out no matter what. I've never soldered before and could have done something wrong but it's frustrating
You can get cheap CR2032 batteries with leads already attached so you don’t need to use the weird battery holders in there
The point is that you can simply change the battery without soldering in the future
no test play?
After watching this video I was afraid of messing up. I was tempted to just use the sketchy electric tape repair others talk about. This soldering repair is fairly easy. Don’t be scared. Just do it!
I have a 3.8mm gamebit but it’s to big and it does not work
Yeah I have super Metroid the dead gum case does not have any screws in it. it just snaps together and the mother board is not as big as the super Mario all stars and the dam thing doesn’t even have a battery in it but it has a metal holder for the battery to slide in it
A nice random tip of the day:
If you have a modified PAL (Super Nintendo) or NTSC-J (Super Famicom) Snes which can play games from any region - but have noticed that American NTSC (Super Nintendo) cartridges are a little too wide to fit into the console, then do the following:
1. Open up an NTSC game cartridge, and take out the circuit board.
2. Open up a PAL game cartridge, and take out the circuit board.
3. Put the NTSC circuit board into the PAL (or indeed the NTSC-J Famicom) cartridge game case.
4. Be happy you didn't have to buy and adaptor, and play as many NTSC games as you want on your PAL console!
Note: all circuit boards fit in any region case, but no matter what shape the circuit boards are - if you are swapping out FX games (with the additional contacts either side of the main connector) - then likewise, swap the corresponding game cases to match!!!
Have a 'Super' day! ;)
Im gonna try this thanks but i have shaky hands but its sounds easy.
Time for a new soldering iron.
Man that seems difficult lol id f my game up probably
good vid man. Similar with the gameboy games huh? I realized that they are very similar
Thanks! Yes, the basic concept is the same for Gameboy games. Just different battery and battery holder, because they use smaller batteries.
Nice video, but definitely need a word on polarity. Following this you have a 50/50 shot of blowing up your game.
Can you add a battery to games that didn't have a battery to begin with?
Nintendo and Sega should have required all their games to have a save option. Not having one ruined a game for me.
I'm glad that cartridge is a thing in the past! Dang it, it looks so damn difficult and lengthy process and I don't have all the tools needed, I might as well as give up doing that @@!!
You can use 2 AA ou AAA batteries on a holder to keep your save while changing the CR2032. Just find a positive and ground point on the board, solder the AA/AAA holder's wires on these points (use the correct polarity) and you'll have 3V in parallel. When the new CR2032 is in the place, you can take the AA/AAA holder away.
Those battery holders are trash. I got a pack of 6 and every one of them the tabs broke when i bent them.
It would be good to use desoldering wick to first remove the old solder before trying to pull the old battery out. That will make getting the old battery out easier and installing the new battery or battery-holder easier as well. It will also protect the PCB's solder pad from over-heating as you hold the soldering iron to it while trying to remove the old battery. The solder pads can burn up if they take too much heat.
This is not the proper way to do it. Drop the game and the battery dislodges. Batteries with the mounting soldering Tabs are the only way to do it properly. The original batteries have lasted anywhere between 20 to 25 years. Adding a new quality and I strongly suggest and stress quality it would last another 20 to 25 years. Use a cheap generic no-name battery and you would have to change the batteries sooner.
Then how about this, use some electric tape so it doesn't fall out then? Re-enforce it. It's better to do it this way because it's easier to change a battery. Use any battery that you want.
@@ecuadorianeel What did I miss? Have you tested this method out?
@@ecuadorianeel ah I see, you mean the proper way. I did research on those battery holders he is promoting on the amazon link. People said they were hard to use. Maybe I should use your method.
I plan to do this on snes catridge. So far I got this planned in mind to buy
836-P No Clean Flux Pen, ATLIN Gamebit Screwdriver set, 0.31 inch diameter Kester Rosin solder, a desolder braid.
I just don't know what to pick out for the soldering iron, any suggestions. Keep in mind I'm new to this. Otherwise do you have any suggestions?
@@deegee2416 the tape method is horrible 🤢🤮
@@ecuadorianeel JB Weld method better LOL?
I just wrap the whole chip with tape lol is that ghetto? This is obviously a nicer way but I've never soder anything in my life lol so yea
This definitely beats the ghetto route! Super Metroid eats batteries like you'd probably believe.
I know a waaay better idea to replace a battery for once for all and for good, those battery’s are already well knows since the 70’s ,so i really don’t understand why nintendo never opted for such battery’s ,, i am talking about the nuclear battery wich will magically load itself indefinitely from 5000 to 28000 years, that’s right, up to 28000 years,
Now it may only will generate 1/4the power unlike a regular battery but it may be just enough to keep serve the ram chip from power, if not, then we could implement a transformer to turn that lower voltage into a higher voltage, this way we should never be worry about a saved data for a whopping 28000 years👍
4:33 You gotta get better about keeping the main action in focus, man. I have no idea what you're doing here.
dude is terrible at soldering! Use a better tip, tin your tip and you can even add a bit of solder when desoldering to help with heat transfer. Use better solder!! My favorite solder is Kester 63/37 lead alloy .031" diameter. DO NOT use the lead free garbage.
Dude this is awful advice sorry to say but the is a reason why they use soldered OEM joints also you can just make a battery support system so you don't loose your save also turn your iron temp up this is way to long on the contacts also you have ruined the resale value of the carts doing this
All this fucking work for a game you can play for free on a million different websites instantly... It's worth it for the hipster status though
yeah great idea put in a batery holder
game is not original anymore
way bigger odds of the game NOT working anymore afterwards.
more expensive
and using alcohol to clean the contacts? realy?
great way to ruin the game only do that as a last resort
Alcohol is the preferred method.