Hey y’all! I, and most others, are aware that the LX600 (and LX450, LX470, and LX570) have all been based on the flagship/heavy duty Land Cruiser, but they (along with the GX470, 460, and 550) aren’t mentioned here because we’re strictly talking about TOYOTA branded vehicles in our market that are not luxury segment vehicles and don’t cost in the $100,000 range.
Yes, but wasn’t included in here as it doesn’t carry the Toyota or Land Cruiser badge. Same way the LX450, LX470, LX570 and GX550 weren’t really mentioned here even tho they too are Land Cruisers underneath. Different (luxury) market segment.
Thanks for this more global perspective, which we in the US often overlook. If I get the new “Land Cruiser” I’m definitely ordering a Prado badge from Europe / Asia and placing it under the LC badge. Will make it more genuine to what it is. 😎
It is quite confusing for you guys!! Here in Australia we’ve always had the 70 series. Although the price for a new one is genuinely not far off the upcoming Lexus GX (this is the truth!!). We’ve also had almost all generations of the Landcruiser Prado, but never the Lexus GX… until now. So we’ll get both of the upcoming Toyota and Lexus versions. Then we’ve always had all versions of the Landcruiser 200 and Lexus LX… and now the Landcruiser 300 and LX. The last 4Runner we had though I think was in the 90s, and we dont get the Sequoia. The Tundra is coming though. They’re going to import them as left hand drive and convert them to right hand drive once they’re here. There’s this new wave / appetitive for your full size ‘pickups’ here in Australia…
I didn’t realize the 70 series was that expensive! That would turn me off to it since I thought the whole point was to have an amazing but cost effective farm truck. That’s really annoying. And also that’s really interesting that you all are getting the new GX too. The only way they’ve justified having both Prado and GX here is one is a 4-cylinder (LC) and one is a V6 (GX). Is it the same way there? Or will both your Prado and GX get a V6? Or do you only get diesels? And I’ve heard and read about their tundra experiment!!! That’s so fascinating because I wonder if they’d ever bring a Sequoia since it’s literally identical to the Tundra in terms of the parts that they’re replacing in the conversion to RHD.
Historically… the way they’ve tended to differentiate them is by diesel (Toyota) vs petrol / gas (Lexus). So for the last 14 years, you could only get the Landcruiser Prado in a diesel. This will be the same with the new model, with the GX getting the Twin Turbo petrol V6. The interesting thing is (and was only reported in the media last week), is which one the hybrid goes into. With Australia introducing fuel economy standards on 1 Jan 2025, it hasn’t been confirmed what Toyota / Lexus are going to do. The 200 / 300 Series Landcruiser vs Lexus LX have been the same ie. 200 had a diesel / LX had the n/a V8. 300 Series had the diesel and the LX has the Twin Turbo V6. And regarding the Tundra… Toyota are last to market here in that class. The Silverado, Ram and F150 are all converted / sold the same way. Although in typical Toyota fashion, they’ve done it the most thorough way… and converted 200 vehicles and given them to dealers and potential customers to evaluate for 12 months. This will be the first time ever that they’re going to sell an ‘aftermarket’ converted vehicle… and they clearly want to get it right
Thanks for the very clear and informative content. This bring the concept of whether or not chose Land Cruiseror premium package VS GX 550 base! Since here in Canada it’s gonna be 83 grand vs 86 grand for the GX!
Personally the GX base doesn’t come with nearly enough for a Lexus or that price point. No memory seats, no KDSS, no upgraded audio, no moonroof, no fog lights, no 3rd zone climate control, and the list goes on. I’d take the LC with the premium package since it would have all of that.
I was looking for you... In these YT streets. Wondering where he can be, cause he to quiet, and then boom you drop a nice video for the peeps That was a nice PSA for everybody that lives in North America . Wonder how the Hilux truck would sell here in the USA, cause that's a truck that sells like hotcake around the world and ya ya ya. PSA: Josh you forgetting to tell folks that watch your videos to sub and like your vids.
Hahaha!! Here I am! And oh, I know. There have been rumors about the Hilux and Tacoma converging again into a singular global model which would also allow Toyota to create a singular Fortuner/4Runner as well. The 4Runner teaser this morning makes me wonder if that’s going to happen since the badge looks like a total afterthought. Slap that on ours and F O R T U N E R on the global model, maybe? And hahaha I knowww it just sounds so crass to me to ask people to like and subscribe. I think if people want to they will but I’m not here to build a huge subscriber count, I love my solid group of core friends (like you!) who are here because they want to be! :)
Thanks for the clarification that every North American need to know that isn't what Toyota want you think of ....it just a new prado buddy not a replacement for land cruiser
Thanks for the informative video. What gets confusing is the overlap between Toyota and Lexus. I think Toyota should have created Land Cruiser division that retains larger V6 & V8 engines.
Josh, I can't tell you how helpful this video was. I'm in the market for a new vehicle and I was wondering why I'd never seen the Land Cruiser 300 here in North America despite seeing it everywhere in the Middle East. So strange that after 30 minutes of googling only your video laid it out plainly. Thank you!!! Quick question- although I remember seeing the Land Cruiser here in NA, it never quite looked the same to me. Is this a figment of my imagination or were they slightly different?
Thank you! I’m so glad it was helpful to you! I don’t think it was your imagination-the North American Land Cruiser (200 series and older) has always had more chrome and fancy bits on it because of the $85K price tag it carried here in the states. In the rest of the world you could get a really stripped down basic 200 series that wasn’t a luxury car.
Well said 👏👏👏 Just to add, the LC300 also comes with a 3.3L twin turbo V6 diesel. In SEA and Australia that’s the only engine we get. Given the choice would you buy an LC300 or a Sequoia? 😊
Yes!!! I also think the 300 still comes with the same 1GR V6 you have in your Prado and that I had in my 4Runner too, if I’m not mistaken. In some markets, anyway. Might be wrong but I know the 200-series had that as an option as well! Personally between those two, hypothetically if we could buy it here, I’d rather have the LC300 though given the price of the 250 Prado I’m sure it would be well over $100K USD, LOL. We get the LX600 which is an LC300 and that goes up to $130K USD.
@@joshjamescars it’s very expensive. I keep referencing one of your videos to friends whenever they have reliability concerns with their Toyotas. Corporate greed at its finest.
Hey, lovely video; if possible, could you do a comparison video between the 2023 GX460 and a slightly used 2021 LX 570? because at the current GX460 prices, some of us think we can get a well maintained LX 570 and it would be slightly better and more comfortable than the GX460. Some of us are not ready for the V6's, the V8 purr and smoothness is everything.
I think it comes down to size. Both are great but an LX570 is bigger. I’d personally take the GX over the LX just because I don’t want or need the size of the LX. LX570s also have the hydraulic suspension as standard I believe, which I personally also don’t care for. The LX also has the older Toyota Entune system and thus never got CarPlay/Android Auto which the GX has. And with any 3-4 year old used car, it is ALL about how it was maintained. If the previous owner treated it like garbage, you inherit that. The GX460 is going to be either new or very, very lightly used.
This is very helpful. Side note- if you were going to buy a luxury-ish, fuel efficient hybrid/phev- what would you buy? Always wanted the RX but I saw you video and that no longer seems like a good option 😅
Great question! Personally I think the midsize SUV class struggles with efficiency because there’s no way to have a nice driving experience in a car that big with an engine small enough to be super efficient, so I’d forego a hybrid and get one with a V6 (QX80, MDX). OR, if you would rather have a hybrid and are willing to forego the smooth and powerful drive, I’d probably just get a Highlander Hybrid Platinum since the RX no longer feels more special! The last option is the RX450h+ PHEV, but at $75K MSRP (so $80-$85K out the door), that’s just such a steep price to pay for a midsize crossover with a Toyota-grade interior.
I was wondering if you had any experience with recent lexus es 350 and 300h? Was hoping to get more information on them and how the different drive trains compare in terms of comfort/feel
We actually own a Camry V6 which shares a platform and drivetrain with the ES350, and I love it. The ES350 and Camry use the legendary 2GR Toyota V6 which will be going away likely at the end of this year for the ES since the Camry is losing it this year too. The 300h is going to drive very similarly to any Rav4, Camry, Venza, NX, or RX hybrid since they all use the A25A I4+hybrid engine. Great for fuel economy but not nearly as enjoyable to drive as the V6. See my Camry video here: ruclips.net/video/NQt55FjfNR4/видео.htmlsi=qsDL6rmoFzHaaB-E
What a great video!!! 😎😎😎 This video should be a mandatory watch for anyone living around me. It would've saved me numerous headaches over the past 6 months. lolol. 🤣 Out of curiosity Josh, what are your thoughts on the Sequoia? I want to love it, but I just can't for some reason. But now that you pointed out that it's really similar (spec wise) to the LC 300, I might have to revisit some of the latest reviews. :). Take care.
Hahaha!!! You and me both! 😂 and thus why it’s up here now LOL! I feel exactly the same way you do about the Sequoia. It’s also just a bigger car than I would ever want to drive so that might be part of it too. I also feel like there should be a version of it that has full-time 4WD like the LX does, but maybe that’s intentional so you have to buy the LX600. 🙄
I think it depends on what you want. I think both are horrendously overpriced for what you get (to get mark Levinson on a GX you have to spend at least $77K). The Land Cruiser is slightly cheaper but the mid trim with the one options package is $70K. The GX has a more powerful engine but the V35A TT V6 has had a significant number of issues. The Land Cruiser’s 2.4 turbo seems more reliable but is slow AF (8-sec 0-60).
@@joshjamescars agreed yeah been watching your reviews on it. not gonna fall for the fomo move. Latest greatest. I use 2023 awd Camry for work. And wife has rav 4 2021. So I wanted beef cake ride for the weekends cool bigger car. So gonna wait one more year like u said so they get out all the kinks out.
Totally. I also think the 5th gen 4Runner and GX460 are also the better long term investments. Proven reliability, under stressed engines. The problem with the V35A is that it’s been in the LS500 since 2017 and Toyota is still having issues with it.
I think you answered your own question about why they got rid of the full size Land Cruiser. It sold in very low numbers, even though it was beloved. They know that most Americans will just buy these as status symbol cars and drive them on road and the new Land Cruiser is perfect for that, good size. The market is so different now with so many SUVs, including ones from Toyota/Lexus that are on the large size like Sequoia, Grand Highlander that they figured the smaller Land Cruiser will probably sell. And of course, for those that really want the flagship size, they can head over to Lexus and get the LX.
Yes, but wasn’t included in here as it doesn’t carry the Toyota or Land Cruiser badge. Same way the LX450, LX470, LX570 and GX550 weren’t really mentioned here even tho they too are Land Cruisers underneath. Different (luxury) market segment.
Hey y’all! I, and most others, are aware that the LX600 (and LX450, LX470, and LX570) have all been based on the flagship/heavy duty Land Cruiser, but they (along with the GX470, 460, and 550) aren’t mentioned here because we’re strictly talking about TOYOTA branded vehicles in our market that are not luxury segment vehicles and don’t cost in the $100,000 range.
North American version of LC 300 is Lexus LX 600.
Yes, but wasn’t included in here as it doesn’t carry the Toyota or Land Cruiser badge. Same way the LX450, LX470, LX570 and GX550 weren’t really mentioned here even tho they too are Land Cruisers underneath. Different (luxury) market segment.
Thanks for this more global perspective, which we in the US often overlook.
If I get the new “Land Cruiser” I’m definitely ordering a Prado badge from Europe / Asia and placing it under the LC badge. Will make it more genuine to what it is. 😎
I’ve thought the same thing if I were ever to get one!!!
Very well put together and great terminology to help it ‘click’ with multiple audiences.
Thank you!
It is quite confusing for you guys!!
Here in Australia we’ve always had the 70 series. Although the price for a new one is genuinely not far off the upcoming Lexus GX (this is the truth!!).
We’ve also had almost all generations of the Landcruiser Prado, but never the Lexus GX… until now. So we’ll get both of the upcoming Toyota and Lexus versions.
Then we’ve always had all versions of the Landcruiser 200 and Lexus LX… and now the Landcruiser 300 and LX.
The last 4Runner we had though I think was in the 90s, and we dont get the Sequoia.
The Tundra is coming though. They’re going to import them as left hand drive and convert them to right hand drive once they’re here. There’s this new wave / appetitive for your full size ‘pickups’ here in Australia…
I didn’t realize the 70 series was that expensive! That would turn me off to it since I thought the whole point was to have an amazing but cost effective farm truck. That’s really annoying.
And also that’s really interesting that you all are getting the new GX too. The only way they’ve justified having both Prado and GX here is one is a 4-cylinder (LC) and one is a V6 (GX). Is it the same way there? Or will both your Prado and GX get a V6? Or do you only get diesels?
And I’ve heard and read about their tundra experiment!!! That’s so fascinating because I wonder if they’d ever bring a Sequoia since it’s literally identical to the Tundra in terms of the parts that they’re replacing in the conversion to RHD.
Historically… the way they’ve tended to differentiate them is by diesel (Toyota) vs petrol / gas (Lexus). So for the last 14 years, you could only get the Landcruiser Prado in a diesel. This will be the same with the new model, with the GX getting the Twin Turbo petrol V6. The interesting thing is (and was only reported in the media last week), is which one the hybrid goes into. With Australia introducing fuel economy standards on 1 Jan 2025, it hasn’t been confirmed what Toyota / Lexus are going to do.
The 200 / 300 Series Landcruiser vs Lexus LX have been the same ie. 200 had a diesel / LX had the n/a V8. 300 Series had the diesel and the LX has the Twin Turbo V6.
And regarding the Tundra… Toyota are last to market here in that class. The Silverado, Ram and F150 are all converted / sold the same way. Although in typical Toyota fashion, they’ve done it the most thorough way… and converted 200 vehicles and given them to dealers and potential customers to evaluate for 12 months. This will be the first time ever that they’re going to sell an ‘aftermarket’ converted vehicle… and they clearly want to get it right
Very interesting. Thank you for this explanation. Something just didn’t seem right to me as a lay consumer. Appreciate you pointing it out!
Thanks for the very clear and informative content. This bring the concept of whether or not chose Land Cruiseror premium package VS GX 550 base! Since here in Canada it’s gonna be 83 grand vs 86 grand for the GX!
Personally the GX base doesn’t come with nearly enough for a Lexus or that price point. No memory seats, no KDSS, no upgraded audio, no moonroof, no fog lights, no 3rd zone climate control, and the list goes on. I’d take the LC with the premium package since it would have all of that.
A Brilliant review - thanks Josh!
Thank you!
Very interesting, prado on road design perhaps off road on weekends. That feels right, we drive a 2017 Lexus GX
Great summary and side by side comparison,
Thank you!
I’m a huge fan of the Land Cruiser. Was fortunate to grab a 200 series before it went away. Build solid.
That’s terrific! Had I been able to afford one at the time I absolutely would have too! Now keep that forever!
Always great information. Thank you!
Thank you for always coming back to watch!
I was looking for you... In these YT streets. Wondering where he can be, cause he to quiet, and then boom you drop a nice video for the peeps
That was a nice PSA for everybody that lives in North America .
Wonder how the Hilux truck would sell here in the USA, cause that's a truck that sells like hotcake around the world and ya ya ya.
PSA: Josh you forgetting to tell folks that watch your videos to sub and like your vids.
Hahaha!! Here I am! And oh, I know. There have been rumors about the Hilux and Tacoma converging again into a singular global model which would also allow Toyota to create a singular Fortuner/4Runner as well. The 4Runner teaser this morning makes me wonder if that’s going to happen since the badge looks like a total afterthought. Slap that on ours and F O R T U N E R on the global model, maybe?
And hahaha I knowww it just sounds so crass to me to ask people to like and subscribe. I think if people want to they will but I’m not here to build a huge subscriber count, I love my solid group of core friends (like you!) who are here because they want to be! :)
Thanks for the clarification that every North American need to know that isn't what Toyota want you think of ....it just a new prado buddy not a replacement for land cruiser
Thank you, and thanks for watching! And yes, exactly.
Thanks for the informative video. What gets confusing is the overlap between Toyota and Lexus. I think Toyota should have created Land Cruiser division that retains larger V6 & V8 engines.
I completely agree, there’s so much overlap now especially since the Lexus doesn’t feel like a luxury product.
Josh, I can't tell you how helpful this video was. I'm in the market for a new vehicle and I was wondering why I'd never seen the Land Cruiser 300 here in North America despite seeing it everywhere in the Middle East. So strange that after 30 minutes of googling only your video laid it out plainly. Thank you!!! Quick question- although I remember seeing the Land Cruiser here in NA, it never quite looked the same to me. Is this a figment of my imagination or were they slightly different?
Thank you! I’m so glad it was helpful to you! I don’t think it was your imagination-the North American Land Cruiser (200 series and older) has always had more chrome and fancy bits on it because of the $85K price tag it carried here in the states. In the rest of the world you could get a really stripped down basic 200 series that wasn’t a luxury car.
Well said 👏👏👏
Just to add, the LC300 also comes with a 3.3L twin turbo V6 diesel. In SEA and Australia that’s the only engine we get.
Given the choice would you buy an LC300 or a Sequoia? 😊
Yes!!! I also think the 300 still comes with the same 1GR V6 you have in your Prado and that I had in my 4Runner too, if I’m not mistaken. In some markets, anyway. Might be wrong but I know the 200-series had that as an option as well! Personally between those two, hypothetically if we could buy it here, I’d rather have the LC300 though given the price of the 250 Prado I’m sure it would be well over $100K USD, LOL. We get the LX600 which is an LC300 and that goes up to $130K USD.
@@joshjamescars it’s very expensive. I keep referencing one of your videos to friends whenever they have reliability concerns with their Toyotas. Corporate greed at its finest.
Hey, lovely video; if possible, could you do a comparison video between the 2023 GX460 and a slightly used 2021 LX 570? because at the current GX460 prices, some of us think we can get a well maintained LX 570 and it would be slightly better and more comfortable than the GX460.
Some of us are not ready for the V6's, the V8 purr and smoothness is everything.
I think it comes down to size. Both are great but an LX570 is bigger. I’d personally take the GX over the LX just because I don’t want or need the size of the LX. LX570s also have the hydraulic suspension as standard I believe, which I personally also don’t care for. The LX also has the older Toyota Entune system and thus never got CarPlay/Android Auto which the GX has. And with any 3-4 year old used car, it is ALL about how it was maintained. If the previous owner treated it like garbage, you inherit that. The GX460 is going to be either new or very, very lightly used.
This is very helpful. Side note- if you were going to buy a luxury-ish, fuel efficient hybrid/phev- what would you buy? Always wanted the RX but I saw you video and that no longer seems like a good option 😅
Great question! Personally I think the midsize SUV class struggles with efficiency because there’s no way to have a nice driving experience in a car that big with an engine small enough to be super efficient, so I’d forego a hybrid and get one with a V6 (QX80, MDX). OR, if you would rather have a hybrid and are willing to forego the smooth and powerful drive, I’d probably just get a Highlander Hybrid Platinum since the RX no longer feels more special! The last option is the RX450h+ PHEV, but at $75K MSRP (so $80-$85K out the door), that’s just such a steep price to pay for a midsize crossover with a Toyota-grade interior.
THANK YOU FOR THIS. SUPER HELPFUL!@@joshjamescars
I was wondering if you had any experience with recent lexus es 350 and 300h? Was hoping to get more information on them and how the different drive trains compare in terms of comfort/feel
We actually own a Camry V6 which shares a platform and drivetrain with the ES350, and I love it. The ES350 and Camry use the legendary 2GR Toyota V6 which will be going away likely at the end of this year for the ES since the Camry is losing it this year too. The 300h is going to drive very similarly to any Rav4, Camry, Venza, NX, or RX hybrid since they all use the A25A I4+hybrid engine. Great for fuel economy but not nearly as enjoyable to drive as the V6. See my Camry video here: ruclips.net/video/NQt55FjfNR4/видео.htmlsi=qsDL6rmoFzHaaB-E
What a great video!!! 😎😎😎 This video should be a mandatory watch for anyone living around me. It would've saved me numerous headaches over the past 6 months. lolol. 🤣 Out of curiosity Josh, what are your thoughts on the Sequoia? I want to love it, but I just can't for some reason. But now that you pointed out that it's really similar (spec wise) to the LC 300, I might have to revisit some of the latest reviews. :). Take care.
Hahaha!!! You and me both! 😂 and thus why it’s up here now LOL! I feel exactly the same way you do about the Sequoia. It’s also just a bigger car than I would ever want to drive so that might be part of it too. I also feel like there should be a version of it that has full-time 4WD like the LX does, but maybe that’s intentional so you have to buy the LX600. 🙄
@@joshjamescars Great points! Yes, the full time 4WD would be so perfect on it. Take it easy. ;)
Good review. Best one. Was deciding on Land-cruiser or the gx. Which would u go with.
I think it depends on what you want. I think both are horrendously overpriced for what you get (to get mark Levinson on a GX you have to spend at least $77K). The Land Cruiser is slightly cheaper but the mid trim with the one options package is $70K. The GX has a more powerful engine but the V35A TT V6 has had a significant number of issues. The Land Cruiser’s 2.4 turbo seems more reliable but is slow AF (8-sec 0-60).
@@joshjamescars agreed yeah been watching your reviews on it. not gonna fall for the fomo move. Latest greatest. I use 2023 awd Camry for work. And wife has rav 4 2021. So I wanted beef cake ride for the weekends cool bigger car. So gonna wait one more year like u said so they get out all the kinks out.
Totally. I also think the 5th gen 4Runner and GX460 are also the better long term investments. Proven reliability, under stressed engines. The problem with the V35A is that it’s been in the LS500 since 2017 and Toyota is still having issues with it.
I think you answered your own question about why they got rid of the full size Land Cruiser. It sold in very low numbers, even though it was beloved. They know that most Americans will just buy these as status symbol cars and drive them on road and the new Land Cruiser is perfect for that, good size. The market is so different now with so many SUVs, including ones from Toyota/Lexus that are on the large size like Sequoia, Grand Highlander that they figured the smaller Land Cruiser will probably sell. And of course, for those that really want the flagship size, they can head over to Lexus and get the LX.
I don’t think I asked the question of why they got rid of the full size Land Cruiser. We all know why they did, LOL, for all the reasons you state.
@@joshjamescars Well anyway it’s quite a momentous occasion here in Canada to have the Land Cruiser name back. It’s been 35 years!
And the new 4Runner teaser just dropped today
I just saw that!!! Personally I’m really excited to see it but already know I’m not interested in buying.
Lexus LX600 is based on Toyota 300 LandCruiser!
Yes, but wasn’t included in here as it doesn’t carry the Toyota or Land Cruiser badge. Same way the LX450, LX470, LX570 and GX550 weren’t really mentioned here even tho they too are Land Cruisers underneath. Different (luxury) market segment.
Great of you to educate the Americans 😂😂
Awesome review 👍👍