porsche 959 -the first 911super car
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- today i drive the iconic PORSCHE 959 ,the 4 wheel drive porsche group B car that never was.
special thanks to the caretakers collection for the seat time in the 959
and to Tyler @analogspeed for the film
#porsche #959 #supercars #4wheeldrive #getoutanddrive #opp #california
When it came out, I was ten years old. I wrote to Porsche in Germany and they sent me back a press brochure in German. It was silver, like this very car. There hasn’t been a car as significant as the 959 since.
Amazing story... when I was 14, I was blown away by the Lamborghini Espada, and at the time, I would draw these detailed sports car concepts all day long. I wrote to Lamborghini in Italy, telling them how much I loved their cars, and sent some of what I thought were my best concepts.
They sent back me all sorts of press for Lamborghini cars and wrote a personal letter saying how talented I was and should pursue a career in car design.
It meant everything to me getting that letter back.
I ended up going into medicine because of my family, but hearing back from heroes is a special moment, isn't it?
Ferrari F40 significant,McClaren f1 significant,lambhorghini countach significant.dodge daytona,Plymouth superbird,significant,buick grand national,significant,Ford cobra,significant,corvette zr1,significant.
@@kylewashington5567 Forget about quite 2/3 of all these cars, you've mentioned as being "significant", because they absolutely WEREN'T significant, dude!
The Porsche 959 at that time was the biggest rival to the Ferrari F40, which for example was the last Ferrari developed under Enzos supervision.
THIS was SIGNIFICAN'T, but not the existance of some douchebag vehicles, like an American "Plymouth Superbird" or "Buick Grand National".... LOL.
The Porsche 959 had the same importance than the Carrera GT or 918 Spyder decades later!
You are talking bullshit, dude!
"Plymouth Superbird"... WTF is this? "Corvette ZR1"... compared to a Porsche 959... Really???? Come on, you clown!!
The new bi turbo "sequentially" register charging of the Porsche 959 was absolutely groundbraking at that time, it was totally important and the FIRST of its kind.
It also was a very important racecar with its Paris-Dakar success and showed the superiority of a perfect AWD system, which paved the way for all the later 911 Carrera 4 models.
I was 15-16 and had pics of it in my HS locker. I didn't realize how advanced it was at the time. I loved the looks and speed of the car and it was 4WD, never seen that before. Obviously, years later I realized how it was so advanced at the time. And I still love it!! It amazes me how many people do not realize that many of today's cars options and safety came from cars like this. Granted most people are not into cars like us.
@@kylewashington5567I couldn't agree less about the Ferrari F40 being significant, when compared to the Porsche 959.
The 959 was a truly original feat of engineering, while the F40 was an obsession of Enzo Ferrari's to merely beat out the Porsche stats. The 959 was offered at $225K, while the following year the F40 retailed at $399K. That was getting awful close to twice the price for a car .4 seconds slower @100kmh and only 6 kmh fast at the top.
The 959 was Porsche's first supercar, a version of their 911 built for B Group racing, while Ferrari had their first supercar in the 1984 288 GTO built for the same purpose. And both Ferrari's are twin turbocharged V8s, while the 959 is a twin turbocharged flat in-line 6. Likewise, the Porsche is mechanically superior in reliability. All-in-all, a Porsche is better car and similar to the VW Beetle; the Porsche is a people's car - much more affordable and reliable to drive. You can get into a 2024 Porsche for less than $70K, while Ferrari's start at $250K. It's apples to oranges. Ferrari models are amazing, but not when compared to Porsches.
Have been a Porsche pilot since 1974. Next year Willie fifty years! My experience with the 959 was one day at Werk I when I stopped off at the race parts shop inside there. As I walked by an open garage door (the one at the back corner) I heard a 911. But it wasn’t a 911. It was a 959! They had several strewn about Werk I in versions states of disrepair. One needed a new front clip after a bad meeting with an autobahn center divider! I wandered around to the back lot which was where Porsche used to store their cars before getting shipped out. It was packed with 959s. I was fortunate to have attended some special PCA events at the time back in the states where I got to meet with Helmut Bott and Tony Lapine. Those were the days! During my last excursion to Zuffenhausen I picked up a new Paint To Sample 911S Cabriolet only to discover my customer care representative was a former 959 test driver with some stories to tell. I truly miss the great roadways of Europe throughout the Alpenstraße and central Italy. I can’t imagine a day without an internal combustion engined 911.
I was in Frankfurt summer of 85 and my dad had tickets to the Auto Show. We got to go on press day, before the public was let in. The 959 on display was cut in half down the middle so you could see all the internals, like a Kimble print. It was the star of the show. And that's as close as I've ever been to a 959 😀
Been lusting after these since high school. Absolutely timeless and still looks fresh these decades later. There is no substitute.
I’m embarrassed to say that, even as a lifelong Porschephile, I couldn’t stand the looks of the 959 in high school. Boy was I wrong.
One of the great things about the internet, seeing these super rare cars that one may never see in person, being driven and explained by people who know them, this whole channel is like a college course on Porsche, I love what you're doing Magnus. Thank you for the education.
Magnus, thank you for no commercials! It's clear you care more about telling the story of cars more than making money from it. So great to watch. If I could have any car at any cost, it would be between the 959 and race prepped Gullwing.
Lov'n on ANY car that's DRIVEN as the design intended...not spit-shined and parked for only visual gratification...The 959 helped set a new standard that should/could still be exemplified...Thanks Magnus for another great treat...👍
Hard to comprehend that the concept of this amazing machine came into being only 20 years after the very first 911. Porsche have been pushing the envelope from the very start and continue to do so. Still the greatest car company on the planet.....
I'd be terrified to drive the 959 because of its value, but I'm glad you shared the experience!
Stunning. The exterior still looks modern.
I COULD NOT THINK OF BETTER PRESENTER FOR THIS CAR TODAY ,when came to l got a special book from Porsche that presented everything about the car and l read over n over again .As a 16yr old just gaining interest in cars after my uncle got a 84 944 after having 6.6L firebird what a difference in performance !! One being brutal like a heavy weight boxer the other being a welter weight fast n agile .
I had a book with a picture of a gruppe b 959 when I was about 4 or 5 white with the solid wheels. They are the best porsche ever for me 😍👌💚
Porsche 959 Komfort, 959 Sport, 959 Komfort series 2 and Bruce Canepa cars.
Love to see a review of a 959 BRUCE CANEPA REIMAGINED SC.
These are the best versions of the 959, but there are no road tests, acceleration times of these cars.
Fell I love with it in 1986. In 1999 while Backpacking through Europe I went to Porsche museum only to realize it wasn’t on display. Last summer it was part of the “SuperCar Exhibit” at the Audrain museum in Newport RI. It sat next to a F1. Still it got all my attention over the McClaren. It was an amazing exhibit. CLK GTR, F40, Carrera GT, Veyron, Muira…
You're right naming it "the first supercar". The technology inside it was way advanced and I guess is still nowadays more than all the other exotic cars from the era.
Countach was the first Supercar.
Thanks for your efforts here Magnus; I appreciate the drive along.
my dream car. Perfection, when it came out, I was 13, I got to sit in one at RUF in Germany in 1996, would love to drive one, have a 996 turbo, as near as I will ever get.
Great video once again! Only got a bit seasick from the camera man's movement during the part when you were talking about the engine.
Yeap, happened to me as well. Would be cool to have some close shots focusing on the engine and an off-camera microphone like in the Big thing series.
This vid starts off like a SNL Californians skit 😂. That out of the way, thank you for this glimpse into our childhood dreams.
I’m here for Porsches and weird hats.
You’re in the right place
That was a cool drive and talk about such an Icon. We get a great feel, at a distance, for these wonderful cars. Thanks man.
This is the ultimate 911 IMHO, even now I would take this over anything Porsche has made to date.
My bedroom poster car as a 16 year old, absolutely love the 959.
I love how it has the same interior headliner lights as the earliest 911's.
Never tire of 959 vids (largely because they’re SO scarce! This car was an alien spaceship in its day, as far as tech is concerned! A sport version did exceed 200 mph on Nardo, during a comparison test with an F40 among other supercars of the day. The test was done my auto motor und sport.
I love listening to Magnus talk about Porsche's. He really has a unique way of explaining the experience and is all about the experience. If you can follow his discussion you'll appreciate the content.
I bet the sorting hat put him in Hufflepuff.
Time seems to have no effect on this matter. One of the things I've been lusting after since high school. Even after years, they keep their freshness and they still impress me.
It was the most expensive car to be sold in Finland back in the days, was 3M finnish marks back then. Not one was sold but it was on the sales list.
Magnus, do you have a photographic memory? I love your story telling, but I’m amazed by your recall of factual information. I have a 19 Volkswagen Alltrack. I love it. But it’s taken on some cosmetic damage that smashes my heart. I’m saving up to take care of a few repairs, but then I want to pursue a few mods. Your videos inspire me.
Absolute dream car. Ever since it was on the cover of Autoweek (Feb. '88) with Al Holbert test driving.
love the commentary, but the camera work is making me motion sick. Hold still. Keep up the great driving one takes.
20+ years ago in Tigard Oregon, a white Porsche pulled onto the road ahead of me.
I first thought it was just a cool bodykit on a 911.
Then, stopped ahead at the next traffic light, I was admiring the perfect body gaps.
It occured to me this was a genuine 959😮
Like a true car creeper, I followed the driver til he parked.
He was so amazed that I knew the 959 history that he gave me a tour.
Cool memory 😊
Every time I see your show I need to go for a drive. In a Miata with the top down and lots of fun. Don’t have the$$$ for a Porsche but always wanted a 911SC like a former boss had. Love your show.
Keep enjoying your Miata.
@@jmsjms296 every non rainy day.👍
Never been so early on Magnus' video! Let's gooooo!
I loved everything about this episode! 🏁🏁🏁
Great review. Simply brilliant! Thanks for the video.
just to see this again as a dream come come true
I earned a Bachelor of Science in Automotive Technology in 1990 and the 959 was an educational topic through those college years. I had a 5' long poster of a Silver 959. At the time I owned a '73 911T (German Racing Silver) with an S spoiler and Sport seats. All the advanced technology in the 959 was mind blowing. Hollow spoke wheels to monitor and maintain proper tire air pressure. When the C4 came out, the power management to the wheels (and sorta...not fully... active-suspension) was quicker than the 959, as if it needed to be quicker. Back then the interstate highways were really good condition and you could do 130-140. US roads are shit.
I found a diecast toy of this in the 80's. Hangs on a pegboard hook in my woodshop.
The concept 959 looked like a million dollars...the general public got this 959....
Oh man...I've been waiting for this one!
I was 18 when this car came out I had a poster on my wall and that's how I fell in love with Porsche ❤
Hey DUDE!
Greets from Banania! Have a great time, we love you.👨🏼⚖️🐶🏴☠️
First!! Love the Channel!!
Interesting elocution, Magnus!
The greatest sports car ever created!
one of my favorite models
This is a piece of art compared to anyone else making car chat vids.
Appreciate you!!
Timeless design!
my favorite since a child
The 959 is the do everything Porsche, Rally yep, Le Mans Yessir, Road Comfort yeah, REALLY FORKIN’ FAST of course
I love that car and older 911’s
Smile mile no truer words spoken..Magnus you are so right!
Another great OPP, could you put OPP in the titles? Look forward to the next one!
Bruce Canepa has killer 959’s in CA as well!
a true legendary motorcar...
Mangnus Stuff...Always super great content!!!!
Great Episode!
Super cool vid and car. I have a 996 Turbo S. So called poor man’s 959. Articles have been written. Lots of similarities and it’s the grand child of the 959. Cheers
If it’s good enough for Gandalf, it’s good enough for me.
What Analog Speed said. 👊🏻👍🏻
Peter Schutz is a legend
❤I love your channel my man… Pretty sure it’s going to turn out to be one of my favorites before long🎉 just discovered you.👍🏼👏🏼
Remember Jerry Seinfeld's American Express commercial where he was driving a 959? He had to go to Germany to shoot that part because during that time you could not drive a 959 in the US.
my favourite model for the original all wheel drive. base of the Turbo & Spyder.
The tail with a 25% lower deck height would look insane for 959..
Wanted one the day they came out an nothing has changed. Just a matter of time.
6:54 He was very disparaging of the F40. I wonder it's because his nemesis Sauron drives one 👁
Beau Travail comme d'habitude🔬🛠Toujours un Moment de Détente🎬Alex France🍻🙏🌌
tremendo!!!!! Sigue dandole!!!!!
Great piece Magnus. Thank you. Do you like the more powerful engines Canepa putting in. Or do you have a preferred improved power plant. A 3.8 with twin turbo? Maybe
U got taste sir.👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👌🏼
I worked on one of these when i was at JCT600 .If memory serves me right it was the boss,s Jack Tordof.
Who just lends someone a 959 for the day?!
I’m willing to bet a 928 GTS keeps up with one of these until the very top end
Still one of my favourite cars of all time, and sadly one I've not seen in the metal... yet. Give me one in Red, will sit nicely in the garage beside my F40, in my dreams.
Small correction for Magnus re Group B, Fords contender was the RS200, not a Cossie.
It may have very average horse power these days but it's got plenty for the road. 600, 700 hp cars on the road can't be rung out like a 300 hp one. More hp is defintely not always more fun. I know you know this.
My ultimate one car to last your lifetime car
Dream car!
Is Magnus wearing the sorting hat from Harry Potter???!
Back in its time it was the first real supercar
I'd be curious how a 959 compares back to back with a 993 Turbo. Sorry if that was addressed in the video, I'm only a few minutes in.
Es increíblemente precioso!!!!!
The 959 might be the coolest car of the 1980s. It is this the F40 or Diablo
only thing that could make this better , is if he wore his silly witch hat while driving the car
We tried, too tall
I’d love to know who the “caretaker” of that beauty is?
Do you think it would be better as just rear wheel drive
I love this model of porche, do you think it's good?
Why is the door color different than the body. Is it a different metal or just a bad paintjob?
Is this dude Gandalf?
“Big Rig Drivers not letting you in.”
As a Big Rig driver I find this insulting,it’s the other way around Sir.
Good Day !
thank you nike gandalf
Wooooooooo-Hooooooooo!!!!!!
Whomever made this deserves an award!
@@analogspeed filmography and stills are top tier!
Really enjoy these videos
How is it so quiet inside that cabin?🤔
It really was that quiet haha, no audio tricks!
Gandolf?
Teen boy poster favourite 👍🏻
is there a missing panel piece to cover the underneath cables and stuff?
What's a 992?
Google a 992 GT3 & you'll find out the difference in the rear wings
Is it a 911 tho ?
“The 959 is Analogue” in the same way a bigmac is vegan