Stossel: Let Charter Schools Teach
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- Опубликовано: 27 сен 2024
- Governments limit charter schools, even though charters often do better than government-run schools.
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Many parents try to escape government-run schools for less-regulated "charter schools."
Philadelphia mom Elaine Wells tells John Stossel that she wanted to get her boys into a charter because her local government-run school in inner-city Philadelphia was "horrible…there were fights after school every day."
Her kids spent years losing lotteries that they hoped would get them into a charter.
"It's heartbreaking," Wells says.
In Philadelphia, thanks to government limits, only 7,000 kids get into charters. 29,000 apply.
But eventually, Wells got her kids into a new charter school: Boys' Latin, founded by David Hardy.
Boys' Latin does many unusual things. All kids learn Latin, wear uniforms, and stay longer hours-and it's all-boys.
"The rules are there to set the stage for the students," Hardy tells Stossel. "If the teacher can tell you to tuck in your shirt, they can tell you to be quiet in class…tell you to do your homework."
Wells says that worked for her kids. "Before Boys Latin I would come home and say, 'OK, I need you to read for an hour-read a book.' And their response would be, 'Why? What did we do?' Like reading was a punishment! [After] Boys' Latin…I would find books in the bathroom on the floor!"
Her son Ibrahim adds, "It came to the point where the teacher would tell our mom that I'd taken too many books."
The school was better at hiring teachers who tried hard.
Wells recalls being shocked to find her sons talking to teachers at night: "He's in his room and I hear him talking on the phone and it was 10 o'clock at night. I'm like, 'Who are you on the phone with?' and he was like, 'Well, Mr. Bumbulsky told me to call him if I needed help with homework.'"
Stossel pushed back at some of David Hardy's ideas, like making every student take four years of Latin. "It's ridiculous. Nobody speaks Latin," Stossel suggests to founder David Hardy.
"Well we picked Latin because it was hard," Hardy replies.
"What's the point of that?" Stossel asks.
"Because life is hard-to be prepared you have to work hard," Hardy says. "We wanted to get that into the psyche of our students."
Overall, Boys' Latin gets somewhat better test scores than surrounding schools in most subjects.
"We deliver," Hardy says. "Since the very first class we've sent more black boys to college than any high school in Pennsylvania."
Despite that, government officials rejected his proposal to open a "Girls' Latin" school. They've rejected a bunch of schools.
Opponents complain that charters "drain scarce resources" from government-run schools.
"You can't tell me that," Wells responds. "Every parent pays taxes…if I choose for my child to go to a charter school, then that's where my taxes should go!"
In fact, Philadelphia and other cities don't give charters the same amount of money they give to schools they control. Philadelphia gives them only 70 percent of that. So per student, Stossel notes, the government schools make money whenever a kid leaves for a charter. Over 13 years of schooling, Philadelphia saves $70,000 per kid.
Stossel asks Wells: What if those savings were passed onto the child?
"Absolutely! Give them the rest of the money!" Wells laughs.
But it won't happen because, as Hardy notes, "It would also mean that there would be a whole lot less union jobs. The unions are not going to be for that."
The views expressed in this video are solely those of John Stossel; his independent production company, Stossel Productions; and the people he interviews. The claims and opinions set forth in the video and accompanying text are not necessarily those of Reason.
"Shirts are tucked in?"
"Yep"
"They don't mind it?"
"Of course they mind it, it's teenage boys"
That degree of honesty felt refreshing.
See my comment above if posted...My honestly often gets me shadowbanned.
@@marcgottlieb9579 Idiot.
It also is a minor confirmation he understands the students.
But wait... Isn't that a physical micro aggression!?!?!
...and the rational behind the rule is also refreshing. Kids learn to follow rules by...well...following rules. i.e. do your homework.
You’re too kind. They spend way more than $18k per child. In Springfield MA - They say they spend ~$15k per child but that doesn’t count building and renovating schools. The actual cost is closer to $37k. And even with that level of spending, the students who are proficient at their grade level is under 25%.
My concern with charter schools is that it takes government money to run them. Seems like the antithesis of libertarianism to me: mixing private and public systems.
@@stevencooper4422 I do believe that government should pretty much stay out of everyone's lives. However, there are legitimate reasons for government to fund these schools. I used to go to an all private school for a few years, and the tuition was almost $4000 per year! I think that having taxes fund these schools is a great way for everyone, rich or poor, to be able to access a great education.
@@stevencooper4422 Funny to see Koch garbage Reason cheering for Charter Schools (which are public schools and define themselves as Public Charter Schools. The government fund it, they don't select students. They just operate independently from the Districts. Over 90% of students in the US study at public schools [the number one economy in the world] And this has been the case since time can remember. Same thing in all the other OECD top countries.
So Koch garbage obsession with ideology, rather than results, is a fiction that he and the tiny numbers of irrelevant Libertarians, who never get elected to any office, are swimming in.
@@dynagoat7374 Funny to see Koch garbage Reason cheering for Charter Schools (which are public schools and define themselves as Public Charter Schools. The government fund it, they don't select students. They just operate independently from the Districts. Over 90% of students in the US study at public schools [the number one economy in the world] And this has been the case since time can remember. Same thing in all the other OECD top countries.
So Koch garbage obsession with ideology, rather than results, is a fiction that he and the tiny numbers of irrelevant Libertarians, who never get elected to any office, are swimming in.
You're too kind. Often it's less than 25%.
"I'd come home and I'd say, okay I need you to read a book for an hour." This lady is a great mom!
Our first child won the lottery for the charter school 3 minutes down the road. We have four kids and they are all automatically accepted. So far so good. They're doing a great job and the teachers and students are held accountable!
I always share these videos with my friends that are teachers.
I'm sure they done like that
@@Dielonthug they shouldnt.
But we dont like their teaching methods so screw em.
As a former teacher at a private school I can safely say this video is 1000% accurate. The state doesn’t give a damn about teachers or students if they aren’t part of their political machine.
@@Macheako - Methods that involve apostrophes? ;p
@@corpsiecorpsie_the_original What clown came up with using the apostrophe for that anyway? It looks like it started out as halfass shorhand that somehow became "proper".
There aren't enough upvotes in the world for this. I want this principal teaching my kids yesterday.
Most important nugget of the video for me was "aren't some charter schools bad" "yeah but they close" because it seems, in the debates, you always hear about the bad charter schools. It's no secret that there are bad public schools too! But with the bad public schools, there is no way out.
But the problem is that a bad charter school is an unnecessary experiment that ruins a child's education where they might have gone to a better public school. Yes, there are bad public schools, but it is the difference between the normal route that might not work and the risky, alternate route that could be more expensive and fail spectacularly only to put the child back where they came from.
@@torva360 >risky, alternate route that could be more expensive
Have you missed the part where charter schools get less funding and still operate just fine?
Basically you have a normal route which has a high rate of failure or a risky one that improves overtime in a free market. Other charter schools just need to copy what's working in other established charter schools and evolve further.
@@torva360 what could be more risky than handing your child to the government for 8 hours each day of their childhood?
The debate goes on about the true nature of the coercively funded compulsory Prussian modeled education system although its true nature and purpose was recognized many decades ago. As H.L. Mencken wrote: "The aim of public education is not to spread enlightenment at all, it is simply to reduce as many individuals as possible to the same safe level, to breed and train a standardized citizenry, to put down dissent and originality. That is its aim in the United States, whatever the pretensions of politicians, pedagogues and other such mountebanks, and that is its aim everywhere else."
How can anyone who is still capable of critical thinking deny that?
Government hates competition and prefers compliance - neither of which lead to learning or independent thought.
Thats cause of the MEN in charge of our government....
@@Macheako, that says more about you than it contributes to the discussion. "Great minds discuss ideas; average minds discuss events; small minds discuss people." Take a queue from Eleanor Roosevelt.
My mom sacrificed to send me and my brother to private school from K through 12th grade. We got a much better education than my cousins who through the public system.
Give parents the choice regarding where to send their kids to school!
My parents couldn't always afford it but I'll tell you I learned more in private elementary school than I did in public high school.
Charter schools and even private schools must bow down to despotic government in order to earn and maintain their licensure.
Private schools should make their own rules. But charter schools should have some oversight since it is tax funded.
Even though my daughter went to parochial schools, you could still smell the stench of the public education bureaucracy. Even since then I've seen many schools close as parents can't afford paying voluntary tuition to their desired schools as they are forced to pay increasingly egregious school taxes to the government monopoly.
@@rayr5950
Exactly! Thank you for affirming.
@@matrixman8582
Better yet, abolish all government schools and get government out of education altogether.
@@jeffersonianidealGetting the government out of education altogether is the only true solution and let schools spring up and compete for the parents education dollars.
That's a complete rejection of the Marxist doctrine in the Communist Manifesto of "Free education for all children in public schools" Of course when a Marxist says "free education" they mean the people will being coercively taxed to support the public schools.
I went to a charter high school in Philadelphia and they are the best alternative to the socialist public school system here
Doesn't that particular school worked for u and u had bad schools nearby. Couldn't others show u shite private, charter and public schools.
Politicians & Unions are the obstacles. If you give them a choice they won't attend crap schools!
How did the word "profit" become such a dirty word? My dad used to say "Oh they're just trying to make money" which perplexes me because I want to make money too. Why is it ok for us to make money but not the other guy?
He may have meant it relative to what we actually do: try to earn money
Public schools and teachers' unions have made things worse for kids. That pretty much sums up how evil they really have become
Charter Schools and other forms of affordable privet education are creating a dynamic system that adapt itself to each student's needs. Unlike the public school system that forces the student to adapt to the system's needs.
The biggest difference is that Charter Schools can expel students. Much more difficult to do in compulsory Public Schools, which become socialized day care.
THEY LEARN LATIN TO MAKE THEM MORE IGNORANT. A DEAD LANGUAGE THAT NOBODY SPEAKS.
not sure that's true, ever see " the movie lean on me? Joe Clark who ran a public school used to expel a lot of kids from his
Am I a real libertarian if have no mustache? 😉
Love you guys, good job!
You have two other options. 1. You can grow a full beard, or 2. You can wear a leather jacket.
You can be a ladytarian.
Monocle and tophat. And a twirlable mustache.
I clapped when he said life is hard!
Broward County Florida recently shut down my niece and nephews charter school that was doing great just because their security guard didn't comply in time with a new law that requires armed personnel on campus. They could've easily posted a police officer there for a few weeks until the guard was certified but instead overhauled the whole school. They brought in a new administration and even had to bring in new teachers because many of the current ones either quit or had to leave. All of this costs taxpayers more than it would've cost to hire a private army to guard the K to 8 school for the whole year. Alas, they decided to make them an example by disrupting the education of thousands of students on top of stressing out their parents. Leftist outlets painted it broadly as a charter school "gone rogue" by saying they "endangered children" by not having an armed security guard. All this is rather hilarious seeing how there are over 30 public schools that don't comply but are given a pass. It's also ironic that the same people eating up this nonsense are the same ones who scoff at arming teachers while also ignoring the fact that there were plenty of cops at Marjory Stoneman Douglas which didn't help one bit.
I’m so hopeful that these kids that are actually excelling can get the word out. I good education is absolutely necessary for ALL Americans, period.
"You can't tell me that," Wells responds. "Every parent pays taxes…if I choose "to not pay for abortion", "not pay for roads I don't drive on" "to send my kid to parochial school", then that's where my taxes should go!" It just doesn't work that way. It should, but doesn't.
Results are plain to see these charter schools are literally saving the lives of these kids. That is the smile of a proud mother. Good for them!
*_TRUST !!_*
When youngest son graduated high school in 2009 we celebrated. Now my 2 son's are married and I told them I help homeschool their kids. They decided to not have kids because the world too Evil. I wanted to be a grandmother but now I'm glad we don't have little one in this nightmare world.
If principals were allowed to run schools w/o outside interference (crazy parents, naive judges, politicians, etc.), alot of the nonsense would go away. The worst of the worst have no business being in school.
makes no sense to me why government employees don't like charter schools. Seems like these kids are getting a better education than me and I went to private schools. I'm happy for them.
Not sure if I commented on this video before as youtube removes my "watched" status of a video and resuggest it. Certainly those charter schools are in between public and private schools and are better than the public schools. What, the "tuition" is so high to the point where it is almost as expensive as Out of State tuition in University!!! Why are the schools so expensive per student? Something needs to be done to minimize the cost, maybe we should go back to having the parent pay tuition and possibly high school to get the student to work as an assignment and cover some of the cost of the school so they can cover the cost of their university once they graduate high school ...
Have to fire the bad teachers, every year. Have to have class levels of low medium high to help the kids.
I’m from philly as well and my neighborhood school sucked I went to a charter school and it changed my life I’m an engineering major in college now.
You'd think the government would give a crap about the quality of our schools. Our students are our future. It's unfortunate that that isn't the case. Without charters, the only other options people have is sending their kids to expensive private schools or homeschooling--neither of which is a real option for most Americans.
That bit about reading a book as a punishment. That right there.
Reading (and reading well) holds up the absolute foundation of an education.
We live in strange times - where many people with degrees and diplomas do not read, or read well (as if, yes, it is a punishment). As if they know all there is to know, or all that is worth knowing.
Instead of having been taught early in life - that no-one, absolutely no-one, ever knows all that is worth knowing. But that is not the point. The point is to not waste something as precious as a lifetime without making as valiant an effort as possible to challenge that particular fact of life.
Walk into any Central library. With one thought above all others.
So much to read. So little time.
I have power-crashed into my late sixties. I still have the insatiable curiosity of a precocious 5 year-old boy. Why? It never left me. Not once. The adventure continues.
This should never be a rare thing, or thought of as a rare thing in children - because it isn't.
Why so many educators now seem so hell bent to turn this off? Is the crime of the century.
Great video. We need to have less government spending in the public schools and more into charter schools.
Stossel I really think you could spend a whole year showing all the BS in the city of Philly
A. What makes a bad public school?
B. How is he able to get public money but run it like a private school?
C. Fellow public school teachers, Union Up!!!
Charter schools tend to be more successful than public schools because they only take the cream of the crop. Parents have to care enough to sign them up. Parents who care about education will expect their child to do well. And these children will out perform children who have parents that don't care. Plus if a student is causing problems, private and charter schools can tell them to leave. Public schools have to deal with a lot of government regulations that charter schools are exempt from. Comparing charter schools and public schools just is not a fair comparison. There are many wonderful public schools in this country. All of these schools are filled with amazing teachers who love and care for their students. Who spend their own time and money to make sure that their students have what they need. Are there bad public schools? Are there bad public school teachers? Yes. But they are not the majority . This is also true for charter schools and any other business or profession you can think of. Its easy to sit back and complain. How about doing something more difficult? Volunteer to help someone in your child's class do their homework because no one at their house is going to help. Volunteer to read with/to students. It's called a "public school". If your public school is failing, you are the public, help fix it.
Exactly life is hard, and people need discipline to survive this hostile world
LOVE our charter schools. Returning students do not have to re-enter a lottery for application each year. Kids are empowered to manage their own education. Most kids actually work ahead of planned curriculums. Passing to the next module requires 90% test scores vs 70% like government run schools. The last two years of high school can be concurrent enrollment with a local college for dual credit. There are attached businesses the students have started and run to encourage entrepreneurship.
TEACHERS UNIONS CREEP INTO CHARTER SCHOOLS
Eye opening. Makes we want to donate to charter schools. It is obvious that parents are trying to do the best for their children but demand exceeds supply. Public schools had better wake up and compete or go out of business. Forcing people to buy your product is not competing. Charter schools seem to be the model that works. Public schools simply need to copy that model. But they won't. Public schools are about administrators, teachers and getting more money. Charter schools are about teaching students. Ask taxi companies and department stores how well sticking to their old business model worked for them.
Also the coal miners and basically all of rural America
Wait, wait....no one speaks Latin. Please look around at the "real world. Most language has its roots in Latin. ALL medical terminology has Latin roots or complete words. I think Latin is a great choice. Latin is actually one of the easier languages to learn first as a second language to prepare for any other language you want to learn. Latin also has rules that make sense, unlike English. English is my first language. Latin and medical terminology are my second. Cherokee will be my third. The next one on my list will be Hebrew, then Spanish. If one wants to truely understand history and the communities in history, we must first learn the language(s) of the area. This story does excites me because its putting the kid's needs of helping them to become productive members of the communities they live in. The hardest thing to teach children is to love the act of learning, but it seems this is a gal of this school. Kudos.
I went to this school, I'm glad I went there than sum random public school.but. Latin was just a waste, wish we learned Spanish,Arabic,etc. When asked almost all graduates say the Latin didn't help.
All germanic languages, all slavic languages and the various asian language families have no base in or connection to latin. Actually most languages are NOT connected to it.
Charter schools just kick out the bad and failing kids and send them back to public school. I'd like to see their numbers if they didn't have a choice like public schools.
Public schools: EDGENUITY
Not less union jobs. Fewer union jobs. I forgive the guy. He probably got a public education.
Aint that the truth! While successful charters aren't the end-all-be-all of what our inner-city kids need, they'll definitely fill in the HUGE crater that the public schools have been creating for decades in academic success and an opportunity to enrich kids' educational careers. What I'd like to know is if those common core standards charters are still using won't STILL become a road block for our kids to compete nationally and globally.
I support charters, home schooling, and vouchers. I do not support shady reasoning, as the last minute features.
Most parents do not pay for their kids' public schooling in taxes year by year. It is their taxes over many years, and those of childless neighbors, and borrowing, that funds the public schools. Use strong arguments to make a good case, don't undermine it with the "it's my taxes" theory.
The failing public schools are committing a crime against students by stealing their futures, all in the name of preserving union jobs. It’s a tragedy.
We cannot have charter schools because Bernie Sanders says so and he knows best for every parent in America.
DEFUND PUBLIC SCHOOLS 🇺🇸🇺🇲the TEACHERS pepear you for JAIL.
I went to public school in South Carolina one of the worst states in the union for public schools. I wish my parents sent me to a charter school, I probably wouldn't be struggling through engineering in college at the age of 25.
3:04 Latin is the source of Latin derived languages.
Latin is basis of scientific and medical terminologies, almost verbatim. (verbatim is Latin, verbatim).
The motto of the United States is in Latin: e pluribus unum.
I love this. It's common sense. School should prepare students for life - real life. I live in Howard County, MD ; a fairly affluent area. Our new school superintendent ruled that there would be no dress code at all for students. Start of the school year, I heard from a teach and librarian that kids are allowed to come in wearing a hoodie with earbuds and cannot be told to take it down and off! I heard from a librarian that girls are coming to school in a bathing suit top and short shorts! Another teacher said they were told that if ICE came to the school, the teacher was instructed to throw themselves on the child to keep ICE from taking a child. We are raising kids to have no rules and ignore the rule of law. No learning environment. I say, every district should have charter schools. Howard county does not allow them!
Ken MacDonald How Co is a very liberal area. I never vote Democrat. Not asking for your sympathy. Just trying to bring awareness so people don’t keep voting in these people who are trying to bring us down.
"We picked Latin because its hard."
Tribes used to do manhood rituals that were hard. Just hard for hard sake.
Make them follow the same rules as public or all public to operate under charter rules.
The only proper solution is to end the unconstitutional practice of force-funding education. The protection of free markets is the primary purpose of The Constitution.
@5:20 Congratulations. You just made more sense in that 5 second statement than the entire careers of Liz Warren and Bernie Sanders combined.
@5:55 Great!!!! Think of Aladdin: "Jafar, Jafar He's our man, if he can't do it - GREAT!!!!"
@6:00 This is also called, in the grown up world, accountability. This is also the reason why North American "professional" sports are so lame. There is no accountability (relegation) for bad results. On the contrary! There is a reward! In the form of a #1 draft pick!
MOST of the problems with the school systems revolve around the way the people in charge spend the money.
there should be more teachers than administrators. and the most highly paid administrator shouldn't get more than 5x the lowest paid person that works for (not just full time employees, but everybody) the school district.
another issue is that charter schools will get all the students that actually WANT to learn, leaving the public schools to babysit the problem children, ones with learning disabilities and thugs. not sure how to overcome that hurdle.
Let people choose? Ridiculous
Some Americans out there really make me proud.
I cant stand the fact that greed so often prevents innovation and progress
funny you should say that, as stossel is very much capitalist and libertarian. Not necessarily greed, but giving an incentive to make money is a good motivator. The thing is, like this video says, private businesses can go out of business, government businesses (like the post office for example) just keep sucking up money and stay. Watch some of his other videos, he is VERY pro privitisation vs government services.
I just don't get why public schools don't decide to adopt the methods of charters? It seems sensible that if they get more but are doing worse, then money isn't the problem.
the government schools dont need more funding they need more heart!
Kudos to this BLACK MAN (Mr. Hardy).
These schools are not private they are getting taxpayers money. If people want choice, cut taxes, therefore the money which is not paid through taxes can be returned to families and they can choose.
Homeschool with ABEKA.COM. Accredited with high school diploma. If you cant get in charter
Stop making sense, John Stossel!
The charter school requirements are often onerous as well ... I wouldn't mind seeing vouchers for tutors directly since the school choice in some areas is often worse than the private tutor systems ... and charter schools hire bad teachers as well ... Of course the parents vetting the teachers/tutors directly is gonna have it's own problems compared to the school doing it, but at least then you don't have any school bureaucracy protecting bad teachers.
If charters really do take the most effective models they may well work out fine, but from what I've seen is charter admins will tend toward being control freaks that don't want to learn from the best any more than the public system does. In my area some of the public schools get a 1 or 2 out of 10 so the charters getting 3-5 is where most of the kids go and the charters don't feel any need to actually improve, but instead tell their students to do badly on purpose on the pretest so their post-test results look better... And the teachers fight over who gets the best students to make their results look better because of the kids talents and parent's support of their child's education rather than rely upon their own skills as teacher... Not all teachers, but enough that it's caused my kids headaches, literally.
Another route around teacher's unions and bad teachers would be to require all classrooms, with more than say 10 kids (which is most all of them except the most rural) to have 3 teachers in them -1 senior, 1 junior, and 1 trainee/assistant. Make the better performing teacher with 3+ years experience the senior teacher, the lesser performing with 3+ years experience the junior or vice teacher, and any with less than 3 full years of experience the trainee/assistant.
I went to a charter school from 7-12 grade and I absolutely loved it. We also learned that socialism was bad so that's all that matters
i think schools are more of a selection process.
I've always been poor, im still poor. i went to my neighborhood school. this school is SO bad that people from halfway across the state shutter at its name. it is THE poor kids school. it turns out i have an abnormally high iq, so that school was boring. they move me up to a more difficult class, move me again, have me skip a grade, and move me again. eventually the school said there was nothing they could offer. i was sent to a very prestigious magnet school. one of the top 3 in the state.ive spent the majority of my life in this school. im in my last year right now. a few years ago, there was actually a charity fund from my school, to give to my old school(yes its that shitty).
most of my classmates bought their way in here. rich kids, with rich parents, three suvs, beach side apartments, and Xboxes.
my point is, that with hard work and talent, i went from where i didn't want to be, to where i needed to be.
economic situation has nothing to do with academic ability. so these poor kids, in poor public schools, have no excuses. they stay in those shitty schools because they arent good enough for the better schools.
which is why i have such an issue with lotteries. they hold back talented students and propel lucky idiots. it shows with my school too. the smartest half of my classmates are hard at work getting into the most prestigious of highschools. schools even I cant get into. while the lucky idiots are at it with the lotteries, trying to get lucky just one more time.
so for these kids in the video, maybe they DID eventually get with the program, maybe they just had bottled up potential, but imagine what their lives would be like if the numbers fell a little differently. theyd be among the unlucky many.
like me, a diamond in the rough, except nobody ever dug them out of their pits. for that im grateful
stay in school, work hard, show you can do it.
and one more thing, high test scores waive everything.
Just perfect
I wish they had this 30 years ago.
ya i supported this new schools but is not just parents that pay for it as most mums stay at home and there's only one person in that family that will pay tax but 3 get from the tax payer at lest as most couples and single mums don't stop at one
I studied Latin and find it very useful still. Reat-gay ob-jay, ohn-Jay ossel-Stay!
that one principle guy needs to be in charge of more sh** in this country!!!!
Imagine if we cut out the government middleman and just made all schools private with very very VERY few exceptions
More discipline probably isn’t the way but hey it’s free market I bet somebody will make a school that actually allows children to decide what the hell they want to do
I wonder if public schools resist charter schools so much is because the next logical step is to privatize all schools.
Way different then the episode of last week tonight on charter schools
@2:40, is that Jerry Seinfeld's apartment?
And let teacher unions crumble.
When I share your video on my Facebook, I cannot share it in “Your Story”. Why?
I went a charter school, and ours was shit. Huge money mismanagement, teacher impregnated a student, constant power struggles. Yeah not all good.
I far prefer homeschooling
and stop our taxes from paying for it.
Philadelphia city government is garbage. Please lets get a new mayor this November! #billyforphilly
Latin is not a hard language to learn/study, it's probably the easiest! If you want a hard language to learn, try learning Icelandic or Chinese.
It is hard because you can not learn it watching Dempsey and Makepeace ;) Having easy access to native speakers (and maybe subtitles) makes learning a language easier. As a german for e that was englisch back in the late 70s/early 80s and thanks to dutch TV (that rarely synchronised but ran better shows) I got a lot of exposure to english.
30 years later I am again using Dutch TV this time to assist me in learning dutch so I can watch season 5+ of Flickn Maastricht
it does serve somewhat of a purpose in that it lets you (though I've heard from some who have tried it doesn't some have said it does) learn the other romance languages easier, plus medical terms for body parts and procedures.
The school monopoly doesn’t like this one bit.
I want to learn Latin! Where can I learn for free online?
Duolingo. I used it for Dutch and Chinese
I'm opposed to socialist-funded charter schools and public schools.
Charter schools are better
Can I get my degree at trump university?
გამარჯობა შენი , აბა რას ვიძახით ამდენი ხანი
Learn a better language like Spanish or French.
Do something BECAUSE it is hard!
Also, the public schools will ALWAYS be worthless. More charter schools!
What happens when a student refuses to follow their "rules"? They get kicked out and sent back to the public schools. Tell you what, John...let the public schools for which you have such disdain kick out THEIR problem students and send them to YOU.
And - holy crap - bad charters go out of business?!?! That's a SELLING POINT? Where do THOSE students go, John, when their school closes at the beginning of a year? Your house? How about telling us about the number of charters that have taken tax dollars and closed without EVER admitting a single student? The federal govt provided $1,000.000.000 (that's a billion dollars) in grants for charters that NEVER opened. Where's your story on that, John? Can't go after the charters?
How about telling us about the numbers of charters that have closed at the beginning of a school year and forced hundreds of students into your much-maligned public schools without the funds to pay for them...because the charters got that and it's gone. Doesn't fit your narrative?
How about talking about something you're knowledgeable about? Because it might mean you have to stay silent?
This is extremely framed and biased lol Wow! You pick one negative aspect out of a public school and speak for all public schools. Then say how charter schools are so much better with test scores, failing to realize the factors that influence such. I cannot.
saying latin is hard so we teach them that is stupid. you maight as well work hard on something usefull such as maths and science.
The only arguement against charter schools is protecting teacher's unions. People complain about the NRA which is a private organization yet the largest public sector union that has most power in US politics is perfectly fine.
No more public money to the NRA. 😁
Well there are a couple more arguments. Just that they are all solvable. Like the argument that charter schools are not accountable...well make them accountable. And the best argument I've heard, and a legitimate one, is that charter schools only take in the cheapest students. The cheapest students are the ones where the parents care and those parents are seeking charter schools. The expensive ones require special education or come from broken households with parents that don't care or have died. The solution? Attach a dollar figure to each student. The charters will just get more money for kids deemed more expensive.
Another argument is that charters can be for profit. But that is a terrible argument. For profit vs non-profit is just a tax term and bestows no virtue to the company.
@@wkdravenna They don't recieve public money anyway
@@matrixman8582 that's the joke. It's in reference to a girl who said it on TV that if they defund planned Parenthood then as a result they should take away the NRAs public funding.
@@bmlong137 they are actually the only schools that are accountable. I agree charter schools cherry picking students isn't great but it's caused by the fact there aren't enough of them and they offer a better education. When you artificially keep the supply low by denying applications for new ones the existing ones become a defacto monopoly. Not offering sports is a bit of an issue the way it's done now where they bus them to public schools. However in the future I can see multiple charters getting together to form teams. It would need to be stipulated in their contracts.
Can you maybe release the full conversation. I am really interested.
Brendan O'Neill just did a podcast with the headmaster of the Michaela Community School (MCS) in London: thebrendanoneillshow.podbean.com/e/katharine-birbalsingh-education-and-the-new-racism/ Boy's Latin was founded in 2007 and MCS in 2014 but it's clear they are pulling from the same underlying ideas.
@@kavustock Funny to see Koch garbage Reason cheering for Charter Schools (which are public schools and define themselves as Public Charter Schools. The government fund it, they don't select students. They just operate independently from the Districts. Over 90% of students in the US study at public schools [the number one economy in the world] And this has been the case since time can remember. Same thing in all the other OECD top countries.
So Koch garbage obsession with ideology, rather than results, is a fiction that he and the tiny numbers of irrelevant Libertarians, who never get elected to any office, are swimming in.
The only reason for property taxes is to fund a universal public education system. Suck on it, Libertarians.
I lived this. My parents had to lie to get me in a "A" grade school.
We had to get friends that lived close to the school to be my guardians so that I'd be eligible for the school.
It was wrong, but the choice was to be in a "F" grade school known to have violence vs a "A" grade school.
As a great grandfather good for your parents. Doing similar thing for a grandson. In math and reading in 6th he test on 11grade level cause granny and I make him read to us 30 min every day
It is a damned shame that for all the yelling about inclusion and fairness and affirmative 'action' - that such a thing as access to a decent school has to feel like a lottery win (or a bank heist).
Equal opportunity means access for all. Until this is universally attainable, that opening phrase rings hollow.
But hey - good for you that the results certainly prove that the ends justified the means. A real education will improve your entire life.
Cheers.
My wife and I are already discussing even before we have children about alternative education from the public school system. I was home-schooled growing up until the 4th grade. then went to private. went public after 6th. What i learned in my 6th grade private school education i was being retaught my junior year in high-school in math specifically. If we cannot afford private school by the time our future children are school aged, we will be homeschooling.
All my teacher friends are 100% anti-charter school. But they've yet to give me a convincing argument of why they're so bad. Mostly because they get their talking points from the Union and that's as far as their consideration of the topic goes. It's really sad for the kids who aren't being given more options for education.
FYI - Latin does help, if you learn Latin your English skills will improve by 200% Also you will easily be able to pick up other Latin languages (French, Spanish, Italian, ect, ect)
Exactly. And should you choose not to learn another language after Latin, you still permanently benefit from having had that educational experience and rigor.
my latin teacher said she was able to learn Spanish very easily because of knowing Latin, however a classmate of mine from my latin classes said knowing latin didn't help him learn French any easier, either it depends on the language or the person, or both, or some other factor.