Communists think that everyone is equal and that statistical differences must be do to racism, not genetic or underlying problems in social fabric. Black kids will do worse than white kids in private schools, because white people beat their children less and have less single parent households. In public schools it doesn't matter if blacks do badly, because they are the unions future voting base.
I am from Venezuela, in 1995 I did a research work on education in Venezuela, I was amazed, the Venezuelan government spent more money per student than the United States government, despite the fact that schools often do not have water or electricity and the didactic material is non-existent, investigating I found that 45% of the national education budget was destined to pay the payroll of officials of the Ministry of Education, only 10% of the budget was dedicated to the payment of active and retired teachers.
I once drove by one high school in Florida and thought the only way this school could be more secure is if it were a prison. I think too many schools are set up for the benefit of teacher's unions and school boards. Not the teaching of children themselves.
Pretty astute, that observation is. The school I started kindergarden in had a corner candy store across the street. I was three blocks from home, which was where on a whim I could go for lunch. And I do agree: public education has been hijacked by adults for adult opportunities. The kids are entirely beside the point.
Parents: Fight for your property tax dollars so you can rescue your children from the public schools. It's not just about academics but about undermining your moral authority.
Years ago I read that there was an initiative to make the payment of schools and private educational institutions tax deductible so that more families could have the option of sending their children to private schools, naturally the initiative was not approved.
Ok start sending your kids to private schools right from the beginning and see how that works out for you. Unless you want to send your kids in Catholic School and get molested by them. Lol
“Kids rise to our expectations”. They have teachers that care and believe in their abilities. They also likely have good parents-the ones that don’t care about their kids or value education never entered their kid into the lottery; they didn’t cherry-pick the kids-a lottery system cherry picks concerned parents
Derrick Thompson Very astute point that I knew Stossel would ignore. However, this only implies that it’s extremely difficult to do an apples to apples comparisons of performance. Choice and flexibility are still the strongest arguments for private schools. It is not the responsibility of private schools to fix all of society’s ills. The best thing about a growing private school system is that it segregates the dregs from the wine. If you care about your child’s education, there is a strong likelihood you will get them in a private school if your public school is poor. If you or your child don’t care, well, we can always spend more per capita on your student. Eventually, some public schools will shrink until we rename them as juvenile part-time detention centers.
+Derrick Thompson Yes, good that you pointed that out. There's a straightforward test, however. Compare the performance of kids that won the lottery with those that lost. Conveniently, this has been done by Caroline Hoxby of Stanford. The results are positive for charter schools. I can't locate her original work, but here's an interesting article about charters that summarizes her findings. www.city-journal.org/html/life-changing-lottery-13306.html
I'm slightly confused as to why all those people were so pissed off at Eva. It's a lottery run school, just don't enter your kids into it. Keep taking them to the same crapfest public school if you want, let the people who want their kids to succeed attempt to join the charter school. That place looked great!
Teachers unions. If you got 5 months off a year and a inflated pension, and then someone came in and told you that you actually had to work at you job now you would act like a savage like that too.
People grok the insanity of letting government grow and distribute food, but they trust them with growing people which is much more complicated and dangerous.
John, I don’t recall ever thinking, “he’s out of mind”, or “he’s been blinded by confirmation bias” when it comes to your videos. Always spot on, or at very least makes a compelling case.
My only complaint with the long school days is that it's abusive. If kids enjoy it, I don't have a problem with it. I was unschooled, I prefer unschooling, I also recognize it might not be for everyone.
As someone who went to public school I’m very grateful to have gotten an education... but it made me suicidal and depressed. I was miserable and so were my friends none of us wanted to even go to class. I didn’t learn much, most of the things I learned were thanks to books and friends tutoring me. The teachers could care less, I begged my parents to be homeschooled. Public schools are a scam they don’t even provide the minimum. If you have children please homeschool or do literally anything else.
Here is the problem with public schools: The state and federal government controls the teacher with heavy regulations and guidelines. It has both the negatives of being politicized as well as unionized. At the moment the public school system is run more like a factory, there is a bell, there are instructions to follow, and that is it. Charter schools are mostly montessori. While public schools are mostly traditional. Each teacher has a preference and should be teaching a model that they are comfortable and enjoy doing. Very few teachers are good with the traditional method, it is boring for most and you can tell there is no life in the teacher.
I love my charter school but the retention rates are terrifying. In the middle school alone, in a 2 month period, 2-3 kids left in a single week. I don’t get it. They’re all like “pUbLiC iS bEtTeR” but they’re probably gonna get beat up or something. 4 of my closest friends were there on the beginning of 7th. By 8th grade, only a single person remained. Another kid was talking about a nearby public saying how a sink broke off the wall because of a kids head getting bashed into it (I think) Sure our principal isn’t the best but it’s still an awesome school.
I met a college student that left public school b/c it wasn't working for him. The only reason he was able to go to college is because of the greater preparation a charter school gave him.
@@theQuestion626 then why are we constantly told to accept loved experience. Is that just for democrats? Do you really think that our school are all performing well? These parents lined with hopes of bettering their children's future. You see nothing?
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 I have no idea what you’re talking about. At this point you’re basically ranting. I merely pointed out that a person’s personal experiences ate at the mercy of bias. Unless it is supported by actual empirical data than that is all it is: opinion. Not only do you see nothing you choose to see nothing that doesn’t fit your view.
The govt schools are owned by the teacher's union and the politicians. Their interest is only for the teachers' pay and benefits, not the students' overall achievements and wellbeing.
Main argument against charter schools, of course they do better their parents are more involved. What's your solution then, obviously we need to be spending more money at the public school level. How does that increase parent involvement? Um obviously more money is going to equal better results! That doesn't hold true the US pays more than almost everyone per student. And the US gets some of the worst results in the western world!
Eva Moskowitz said, "kids will rise to the level of your expectations". I wonder if that philosophy should apply to EVERYONE (including adults of all ages and colors)???
I was born in 1950... I went to Abraham Lincoln Public School # 9 in Paterson, New Jersey... When I was in 5th Grade, 10 years old, at the School's Annual Book Sale, I bought "The Complete Short Stories of Edger Allen Poe"... That is right... In 1955, in Paterson, New Jersey, a 10 year old in a Public School was deemed well enough taught to be able to read Poe... That's the environment I attended school in...
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 I would like to actually see whatever data you have about this “decades long failed schools” nonsense you’re ranting about. Funny how you didn’t open with that.
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 see that’s not data. That’s just your opinion. Unless you can actually provide links that support your position then I have no use to entertain your position.
Having gone to a charter school myself, I can say that charter schools are not what they lead themselves to be. They have no incentive to help struggling students as they only care to boost their scores on national charts. As such students who struggle get dropped and sent to regular public schools lowering those schools score because those charter schools refuse to bother helping those students improve. They also run their teachers like retail store associates. 5 of my teachers were fired for disagreeing with certain aspects with how money was divided into the school. The principle of my school would embezzle funds and shift it around to other schools in their industry. Sometimes taking this money directly from students own fundraisers. If you want more proof take a look at the History or Somerset Academy Charter High. These places are businesses first educators second
Goldmegaman1000 and yet they present much better results than public schools, or so it seems. So I guess when charter schools are (rightfully) criticized you should really ask "compared to what?".
Goldmegaman1000 all schools are businesses first, especially government schools. The only difference is incentives. Private schools have the incentive to provide a quality education for the cheapest price because if they don't then they will go out of business. Public schools don't have this incentive because they have a captive customer base that doesn't have a choice in where to go to school. Especially in poor areas where the parents can't afford to move to a better school district. A lot of the time, charter schools are limited in their ability to innovate because they are still part of the government school system. Unfortunately.
Goldmegaman1000 That is a good argument for shutting down the bad charter schools, not ALL charter schools. Or you can argue that we need to change the incentive by paying based on individual improvement instead of overall scores from all the kids. Try not to use your anecdotal experience as if it applies to all charter schools.
They address that issue through a sort of results based analysis, saying that retention rates of their school is much better than the public school within the district they are in.
That girl that read a hundred books, and is obviously proud of the achievement. Warms my heart. She is not "acting white." She is ambitious, curious, smart and hungry to want to know. We tie ourselves into pretzel knots trying to get kids to do this. And yet - five thousand ideologies are somehow more important? Of course - when the object of the game is to clone little activists. Um, I became a bit of an activist in my life (something started long ago and continued ever since) AFTER I got a liberal education. That decision was made in my own way and under my own terms. It required joining no organization, or any identity group other than the human race, the best (and by far most powerful) identity group of them all. Public schools are hardly "public" at all - in that they labor on outside of majority parental approval (and especially more so, if most parents actually knew and understood what they're up to). Education has been hijacked. By "experts" who wish to prevent it from actually happening. And they do this by bullying young and innocent children into submission. And if they fail to do that, well then, they just systematically turn the kids off. There are a lot of those. The ones that read at a grade three level - in grade eight. The ones who never catch up. I had a "troubled" childhood. What saved Me? Two things. Books. And a very real freedom to escape the oppression of adults and go out into the real world and discover what I was reading about. Those two things danced together well enough to set me straight. And if I could do it - almost anyone could. I'm Joe Average. Pleased to meet cha.
Just separate expenses and investments. Government funds on ---> expenses. Private funds on ---> investments. The math graphs are different. Schools are an investment, so they have to be private. Roads are expenses so they have to be public. And so on.
I liked grade 1, but after that I realized thay I only need to use 5% of my ability to get good grades, now I'm just wasting my time in highschool skipping classes and getting 90-95 every exam
+Adam Neumeyer How do you recommend that someone make it in the economy without a college degree? I'd like to know how to do that. Any resources? Recommendations?
While that is true, what your first employer cares about most is you showing up on time, every time. So even if the school is worthless, the habits are not. "I'm joining the navy" face palm.
I'm biased. Between 1st and 12th grade, I've been in public, private, and home school. The best education was in private school, but it's definitely more important in the younger years. I was in public school during high school and I was consistently in the top 10% even though I never considered myself college worthy. I simply liked to learn and had a strong work ethic.
private schools are better because they can deny kids, they can choose how big their student base is. public schools cant do that, everyone deserves an education and all that.
The biggest problem with kids in public schools today is PARENTS! After living with a primary educator for 43 years, believe me, I know. Parents used to support the school and the teachers, now it's "how dare you say that about my little snowflake!". When I got my butt whupped at school, I got it double at home. Same with MY KIDS and they are all happy and successful.
TexasScout Noneofyourbusiness I never got my butt whupped at home, and definitely not at school. I am very happy and I think pretty successful. I cannot understand why you would hit a kid if you don’t have to. Doesn’t make any sense.
Are you suggesting that not being hit by parents is what makes people like that? What evidence is there for that? Me, my sister, my girlfriend all never were hit. My sister and I are anarcho-capitalists, and my girlfriend is conservative. I know plenty of people who were never hit and turned out great and don't have any desire to act out disruptively nor suppress dissenting views. Clearly it is possible to turn out well while not being hit. Good parenting does not need to include physical harm.
One thing that all NY schools do that most of the rest don't is separate children by test scores so that struggling kids are taught in the same school and the high achieving kids go to a different school. Every year a kid can apply for a slot at a better school if they have improved academically and can handle the harder work.
Till 4:30? That is a lot. When i was in india, my school hours were from 7:30am to 1:45pm till 10th grade and 12:30pm in 11th and 12th grade. The difference is that we had slightly higher level of emphasis on science and math.
Did I have the only charter school that didn’t teach their students properly??? Once I reached a public hs I’ve literally had to relearn things other students learned hella long ago since we weren’t taught anything. My teachers never taught or explained anything, they made us only do book work and look up answers if we didn’t understand.
We sent our daughter to a charter school, it was terrible. I’m not saying that they’re all bad but in Oakland California (highest concentration of charters in the state) none of the charter schools even come close to the top public schools in the district. Ultimately your children’s education is up to you not the school they attend.
It’s called “School Choice” for a reason. If you want to send your child to a crappy government run school, you’re free to do so just as a decent parent would not.
I want to know how kids who applied but did not get in did compared to kids who got into the Charter schools. That is the comparison we need since there is a self selection process.
It depends on what state we're talking about. Many of the for-profit charter schools in Michigan perform worse than public schools, and because funding to schools depends on how many kids show up, charter schools dilute funding. It's not a black and white issue. There do need to be some standards and oversight.
There oversight is parents. If they underperform parents can pull their kids out and put them back in traditional public schools. Who knows better what a kid needs the parents or the government?
Young friend homeschooling her 6 kids 1st-6th. All got scholarship to high end private school sponsored by Texas A&M. Oldest girl cried like her heart was broken in 9th when she got a B. Lowest grade of her life. You can do it ,too. Watch old Jay Leno when he asked teachers getting their Masters questions Boomers learned by 6th. Deer in headlights indeed.
I have an idea... Mail each parent a voucher of the value that the gov would spend on their education, then the parent goes out and chooses a private school, they can add extra money out of their own pocket to go to a better one or they can just use what the voucher is worth.
Wait, if they teach the public school the same, they would have the same rate, Its the system that allows the teachers to teach teachers today only do what there told to do no more an no less an then there's teacher's that go above an beyond
I have found that 85/90%of teachers will go out of their way to help my autistic son. It's only a small percent of teachers and administration that fails him. I can only assume this carries over to everyone else as well. In short, it's not teachers but the system.
bis nik I guess it depends how you define "go out of their way." I went to a Catholic school here in New Orleans.. the best all girls school and second best over all in the metro area and maybe all of southern Louisiana, and I didn't get 85%-90% of teachers willing to go out of their way for me, a struggling student. Nonetheless, I learned a lot, and I'm ultimately incredibly grateful for my education, especially living in a city with horrific public school performance.. but somehow I expect that your estimates are a bit off. I could be wrong, of course.
Seamus Callaghan I'm doubtful she had anything exciting to add. it's rare that folks with tyt have anything intelligent to add. it happens on occasion, but it's doubtful in this case. anyone who continues to support a continuously failing public school system kinda boggles my mind. why be against something different without trying it first? charter schools have done wonders for education here in New Orleans. it's incredible the amount of change in just 9-12 years. so why fight it? give charters a chance, ya know?
I absolutely agree that charter schools should be an option, but as a Michigander, our state has been abusing them. Many for-profit charter schools here are performing worse than even public schools, and since school funding is dependent on the number of students at the school, our failing charter schools are diluting funding for struggling public schools.
From what I've heard, it's mostly a lack of proper oversight and corruption. The industry wants to make as much money as they can, and they do that by opening as many schools as they can as cheap as they can, without sufficient justification from an educational perspective. They get away with it because the industry and its supporters are major donors to a lot of our politicians - Betsie Devos was one of them before becoming Secretary of Education.
Here's my idea: encourage home education for those who are able to home educate, and for those who can't (such as the poor), replace the centralized government schooling system with a system made up of DEcentralised charter schools combined with school choice, with schools being made to respect individual student's rights as much as the government would have to in the real world, and have the people go for concepts such as the Waldorf and Montessori systems that not only respect the student's individuality but also actually fosters creativity and the real learning of actual, practical skills and knowledge. I have additional content, being a playlist called "Truth about school & education exposed, plus education reform, student's rights, & is school a waste of time?" (which is on my channel's homepage), and an article called "Ultimate education reform article list & video list. Problems with public education/schools, & how to fix them", the latter of which will be linked below.
Parents and their children are lining up for a chance at getting into Moscovitz's school. That right there shows you that the kids were probably going to do well in an academic environment (parental support). Perhaps the sample is not as random as they make it out to be.
It's easy parenting to put children in "a better school". A really better school can pick up some slack from there after those parents pat themselves on the back for their skills and vanity, whereas an ordinary school has a high likelihood of just producing shit out of capable children no matter how hard parents try. Hopefully these charter schools can somewhat stabilize the performance of intelligent kids and that it is bringing out better results in addition to the higher performing core of students they start with. Really impossible to study.
Lets talk for 6 minutes about how awesome charter schools are and how bad public schools are and cherry pick our studies and graphs and tell little children to shout "learning is fun!" into the camera. And make sure to ignore the failed charter schools that closed because they did not make a profit and resulted in thousands of children to miss an entire year of education and fall behind. Not to mention the teachers and staff who lose their jobs and the parents who have to fight over a place at another charter school or a public school.
I think he did do that. He states that not all charterschools are successful but parents have a choice and I agree with that. I should be able to send my kid to the school I feel is best for his or her needs. I can risk it and send my kid to a charter school or play it safe at a traditional school. It's my choice and I think I know what's best for my kid over some goverment official. Why does the government get to force my kid to go to a certain school based on where my house is located?
Ignoring charters are given special privilege like being paid regularly whereas in philly for example they get paid monthly, so half of all the money they have goes to debt. And charter schools can kick out under performing kids inflating passing records, smth public schools cant. The whole idea of charter schools and school choice is flawed, education is a credence good that wont be used by the person "shopping" around. If that kid gets a bad education the parent wouldnt know or that kid, and charters themselves take from the pot of money given to schools. Instead of "school choice" just allow the teachers to vote on the curriculum, pay them regularly, arm them to cut down on SROS and security funding and get rid of BOE's as they dont help individual teachers.
There goes the Democratic voter base... No wonder the unions are pissed.
So, bureaucrats don't always know best ?
STOSSEL/REMY 2024.
I notice that Republican states with the "Right To Work" non union majority tend to be the least educated....
@@theQuestion626 And yet, I've seen people that had like 4 degrees to their credit, couldn't even keep a job at McDonalds.
@@spirittammyk you've got something better than anecdote to back up your position?
I've been really concerned with public school ever since I started going to one...
"Government is not the solution, government is the problem..." The Gipper R.I.P
Lovely. Quoting a guy who was already suffering from dementia.
Conservatives really have a great gauge for "wisdom"....
@@lordeverett5642 really? The Gipper left it up to the market. Tell me… Was there any marked improvement?
@@theQuestion626 look, I don’t even know what I was trying to say, or even what this video is about anymore.
@@lordeverett5642 much like Reagan.
Down to The Predator Class!
The Young Turks calling private school a scam. Enough said.
A "scam" 😂😂😂 morons 😂😂😂
I guess that means the Armenian genocide is a "scam" too 🤔🤔🤔😂😂😂😤😤😤
I use TYT as my philosophy for living a successful life. If they say one thing, I automatically think and do the opposite.
The Young Turks aren't even young. Don't believe anything they say.
You mean turds
Privatize government education system and get government out of student loans.
Education should be a community effort, Not the federal government.
WTF? This type of shit is why Americans are getting so fucking stupid these days.
Charles Lowery - Are you sure that it is not that most Americans attend government schools and get all the student loans their hearts desire?
Daway Legit .
do u kno da wae?
2VN, Absolutely, I agree 100%
"But my Lit professor told me charter schools are racist." -Some Dummy
Communists think that everyone is equal and that statistical differences must be do to racism, not genetic or underlying problems in social fabric.
Black kids will do worse than white kids in private schools, because white people beat their children less and have less single parent households. In public schools it doesn't matter if blacks do badly, because they are the unions future voting base.
@Daway
Private school student score higher across the board, including stem.
Poe's law.
STOSSEL/REMY 2024.
@@nustada that's really sad
Imagine how much more productive a person is when he actually works instead of waiting for government handouts...
With all the money that we spend on public education, we could just be giving subsidies to families to buy private tutors
Funny I feel the same way about the money used to build bombs, tanks, and bullets and the money utilized to bail out banks....
I am from Venezuela, in 1995 I did a research work on education in Venezuela, I was amazed, the Venezuelan government spent more money per student than the United States government, despite the fact that schools often do not have water or electricity and the didactic material is non-existent, investigating I found that 45% of the national education budget was destined to pay the payroll of officials of the Ministry of Education, only 10% of the budget was dedicated to the payment of active and retired teachers.
I once drove by one high school in Florida and thought the only way this school could be more secure is if it were a prison. I think too many schools are set up for the benefit of teacher's unions and school boards. Not the teaching of children themselves.
Jack my high school was literally designed after a prison. Each of the wings was like a cell block.
Mine had bars on the windows. Lol
Ah Yes, Florida a state known for treating teachers like shit. You are right it's set up for the teachers.
Pretty astute, that observation is. The school I started kindergarden in had a corner candy store across the street. I was three blocks from home, which was where on a whim I could go for lunch. And I do agree: public education has been hijacked by adults for adult opportunities. The kids are entirely beside the point.
Parents: Fight for your property tax dollars so you can rescue your children from the public schools. It's not just about academics but about undermining your moral authority.
Fuck property taxes.
didn't take long to find the libertarians screaming their "taxation is theft" nonsense...
Years ago I read that there was an initiative to make the payment of schools and private educational institutions tax deductible so that more families could have the option of sending their children to private schools, naturally the initiative was not approved.
The problem you fail to see is those leeches who run charter schools
You couldn't point a loaded gun at my face and make me take my kids to a public school.
You do realize that they do that in some states, right?
They might do that, but they'd have to pull the trigger with me. The wouldn't be able to force ME to do it.
+Karozans The government _can,_ and often does.
Daway Legit your special
Ok start sending your kids to private schools right from the beginning and see how that works out for you. Unless you want to send your kids in Catholic School and get molested by them. Lol
“Kids rise to our expectations”. They have teachers that care and believe in their abilities. They also likely have good parents-the ones that don’t care about their kids or value education never entered their kid into the lottery; they didn’t cherry-pick the kids-a lottery system cherry picks concerned parents
100% true.
Derrick Thompson
Very astute point that I knew Stossel would ignore. However, this only implies that it’s extremely difficult to do an apples to apples comparisons of performance.
Choice and flexibility are still the strongest arguments for private schools. It is not the responsibility of private schools to fix all of society’s ills.
The best thing about a growing private school system is that it segregates the dregs from the wine. If you care about your child’s education, there is a strong likelihood you will get them in a private school if your public school is poor. If you or your child don’t care, well, we can always spend more per capita on your student.
Eventually, some public schools will shrink until we rename them as juvenile part-time detention centers.
+Derrick Thompson Yes, good that you pointed that out. There's a straightforward test, however. Compare the performance of kids that won the lottery with those that lost. Conveniently, this has been done by Caroline Hoxby of Stanford. The results are positive for charter schools. I can't locate her original work, but here's an interesting article about charters that summarizes her findings.
www.city-journal.org/html/life-changing-lottery-13306.html
grantcivyt
Nice catch. Gotta remember this one.
Then why are people lining up around the block, and crying when they don't win the lottery?
I'm slightly confused as to why all those people were so pissed off at Eva. It's a lottery run school, just don't enter your kids into it. Keep taking them to the same crapfest public school if you want, let the people who want their kids to succeed attempt to join the charter school. That place looked great!
Teachers unions. If you got 5 months off a year and a inflated pension, and then someone came in and told you that you actually had to work at you job now you would act like a savage like that too.
That little girl at 0:12 is going places!
James Mcenanly I hope she keeps that attitude!
STOSSEL/REMY 2024.
Hopefully. If her environment doesn’t get to her first...
I love that response.
@@standingpineapple6651 "It don't matter!" It should be, "It doesn't matter!" She needs to improve her grammar.
College education has become so devalued by the inflation of govt subsidy, that restaurants are demanding college grads for wait staff.
People grok the insanity of letting government grow and distribute food, but they trust them with growing people which is much more complicated and dangerous.
John, I don’t recall ever thinking, “he’s out of mind”, or “he’s been blinded by confirmation bias” when it comes to your videos. Always spot on, or at very least makes a compelling case.
My only complaint with the long school days is that it's abusive. If kids enjoy it, I don't have a problem with it.
I was unschooled, I prefer unschooling, I also recognize it might not be for everyone.
As someone who went to public school I’m very grateful to have gotten an education... but it made me suicidal and depressed. I was miserable and so were my friends none of us wanted to even go to class. I didn’t learn much, most of the things I learned were thanks to books and friends tutoring me. The teachers could care less, I begged my parents to be homeschooled. Public schools are a scam they don’t even provide the minimum. If you have children please homeschool or do literally anything else.
I like that the kids in charter schools wear uniforms. It makes them look and feel dignified while creating a sense of unity.
The biggest problem with public schools is that you can not fire anyone.
We need to change our public system.
Here is the problem with public schools: The state and federal government controls the teacher with heavy regulations and guidelines. It has both the negatives of being politicized as well as unionized. At the moment the public school system is run more like a factory, there is a bell, there are instructions to follow, and that is it. Charter schools are mostly montessori. While public schools are mostly traditional. Each teacher has a preference and should be teaching a model that they are comfortable and enjoy doing. Very few teachers are good with the traditional method, it is boring for most and you can tell there is no life in the teacher.
I love my charter school but the retention rates are terrifying. In the middle school alone, in a 2 month period, 2-3 kids left in a single week. I don’t get it. They’re all like “pUbLiC iS bEtTeR” but they’re probably gonna get beat up or something. 4 of my closest friends were there on the beginning of 7th. By 8th grade, only a single person remained. Another kid was talking about a nearby public saying how a sink broke off the wall because of a kids head getting bashed into it (I think) Sure our principal isn’t the best but it’s still an awesome school.
WE WANT JOHN STOSSEL ON JRE, FDR, DAILY WIRE, CROWDER, SEND IT. JORDAN PETERSON, BEAUTY AND THE BETA. MILO, WHO AM I FORGETTING?
Milo and Crowder are hacks...
Stefan Molyneux😘
I can't even imagine Stossel on JRE. Rogan would spend 30 minutes talking about Stossels mustache
Dinesh D'souza
The Violator yes thank you
I met a college student that left public school b/c it wasn't working for him. The only reason he was able to go to college is because of the greater preparation a charter school gave him.
Anecdotal evidence isn't evidence, friend.
@@theQuestion626 It's his lived experience don'tcha know.
@@edwinamendelssohn5129“it’s his lived experience”
and unless it’s supported by empirical data it’s a biased opinion “don’tcha know”.
@@theQuestion626 then why are we constantly told to accept loved experience.
Is that just for democrats?
Do you really think that our school are all performing well?
These parents lined with hopes of bettering their children's future.
You see nothing?
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 I have no idea what you’re talking about. At this point you’re basically ranting. I merely pointed out that a person’s personal experiences ate at the mercy of bias. Unless it is supported by actual empirical data than that is all it is: opinion.
Not only do you see nothing you choose to see nothing that doesn’t fit your view.
I still like MY public school, but we need kids to be able to choose. Great work John!
Man, that's a report that just makes ya feel good. Thanks man!
The govt schools are owned by the teacher's union and the politicians. Their interest is only for the teachers' pay and benefits, not the students' overall achievements and wellbeing.
Main argument against charter schools, of course they do better their parents are more involved.
What's your solution then, obviously we need to be spending more money at the public school level.
How does that increase parent involvement?
Um obviously more money is going to equal better results!
That doesn't hold true the US pays more than almost everyone per student. And the US gets some of the worst results in the western world!
@@TheBanshee90 more money? We fund schools better than any other country
Great stuff!
Anecdotes are the best kind of evidence.
Eva Moskowitz said, "kids will rise to the level of your expectations". I wonder if that philosophy should apply to EVERYONE (including adults of all ages and colors)???
I was born in 1950... I went to Abraham Lincoln Public School # 9 in Paterson, New Jersey... When I was in 5th Grade, 10 years old, at the School's Annual Book Sale, I bought "The Complete Short Stories of Edger Allen Poe"... That is right... In 1955, in Paterson, New Jersey, a 10 year old in a Public School was deemed well enough taught to be able to read Poe... That's the environment I attended school in...
I can 100 percent say success academy is fixing the minority achievement gap
My guy Stossel explaining it once again. Liked him on Fox, now love him on Reason. Keep up the good work
What you call "explaining" people with sense would call "spinning".
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Please give your defense of decades long failed schools especially in poor communities
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 I would like to actually see whatever data you have about this “decades long failed schools” nonsense you’re ranting about. Funny how you didn’t open with that.
Descending from number one globally to 39th for starters.
@@edwinamendelssohn5129 see that’s not data. That’s just your opinion. Unless you can actually provide links that support your position then I have no use to entertain your position.
Wish I had this as a kid!!! Would have done better!!!
Homeschooling is the best option.
I love our public school. They have programs a charter is not big enough to have. Great certified educators. Public education is the way to go.
School shouldn't just be privatized it shouldn't even be forced. Fuck truancy laws.
OMG, just I want to replicate this in my country, Venezuela.
Best I can do is mail you some toilet paper.
Seeing "The Young Turks" next to correspondent says it all.
Having gone to a charter school myself, I can say that charter schools are not what they lead themselves to be. They have no incentive to help struggling students as they only care to boost their scores on national charts. As such students who struggle get dropped and sent to regular public schools lowering those schools score because those charter schools refuse to bother helping those students improve. They also run their teachers like retail store associates. 5 of my teachers were fired for disagreeing with certain aspects with how money was divided into the school. The principle of my school would embezzle funds and shift it around to other schools in their industry. Sometimes taking this money directly from students own fundraisers. If you want more proof take a look at the History or Somerset Academy Charter High. These places are businesses first educators second
Goldmegaman1000 and yet they present much better results than public schools, or so it seems. So I guess when charter schools are (rightfully) criticized you should really ask "compared to what?".
Thank you for your sample size of one. It will be given its due weight of importance, which according to my calculations is about 0.014%.
Goldmegaman1000 all schools are businesses first, especially government schools. The only difference is incentives. Private schools have the incentive to provide a quality education for the cheapest price because if they don't then they will go out of business. Public schools don't have this incentive because they have a captive customer base that doesn't have a choice in where to go to school. Especially in poor areas where the parents can't afford to move to a better school district.
A lot of the time, charter schools are limited in their ability to innovate because they are still part of the government school system. Unfortunately.
Goldmegaman1000 That is a good argument for shutting down the bad charter schools, not ALL charter schools. Or you can argue that we need to change the incentive by paying based on individual improvement instead of overall scores from all the kids.
Try not to use your anecdotal experience as if it applies to all charter schools.
They address that issue through a sort of results based analysis, saying that retention rates of their school is much better than the public school within the district they are in.
every kid in a public school understands there's an issue but they don't teach you well enough to know what it is or how to fix it
That girl that read a hundred books, and is obviously proud of the achievement. Warms my heart.
She is not "acting white." She is ambitious, curious, smart and hungry to want to know. We tie ourselves into pretzel knots trying to get kids to do this.
And yet - five thousand ideologies are somehow more important?
Of course - when the object of the game is to clone little activists.
Um, I became a bit of an activist in my life (something started long ago and continued ever since) AFTER I got a liberal education. That decision was made in my own way and under my own terms. It required joining no organization, or any identity group other than the human race, the best (and by far most powerful) identity group of them all.
Public schools are hardly "public" at all - in that they labor on outside of majority parental approval (and especially more so, if most parents actually knew and understood what they're up to).
Education has been hijacked. By "experts" who wish to prevent it from actually happening.
And they do this by bullying young and innocent children into submission. And if they fail to do that, well then, they just systematically turn the kids off. There are a lot of those. The ones that read at a grade three level - in grade eight. The ones who never catch up.
I had a "troubled" childhood. What saved Me? Two things. Books. And a very real freedom to escape the oppression of adults and go out into the real world and discover what I was reading about. Those two things danced together well enough to set me straight.
And if I could do it - almost anyone could. I'm Joe Average. Pleased to meet cha.
Just separate expenses and investments.
Government funds on ---> expenses.
Private funds on ---> investments.
The math graphs are different.
Schools are an investment, so they have to be private.
Roads are expenses so they have to be public. And so on.
.....that makes virtually no logical sense.
I went to a charter school. I loved it.
Fortunately in Ohio, the opposite is happening, the public schools are the ones doing better.
I liked grade 1, but after that I realized thay I only need to use 5% of my ability to get good grades, now I'm just wasting my time in highschool skipping classes and getting 90-95 every exam
reversed music Don't go to college. It's the same except you pay for it yourself (kind of)
+Adam Neumeyer How do you recommend that someone make it in the economy without a college degree? I'd like to know how to do that. Any resources? Recommendations?
Adam Neumeyer I know, I'm joining the navy
Nicholas Gergetz I'm joining the navy
While that is true, what your first employer cares about most is you showing up on time, every time. So even if the school is worthless, the habits are not.
"I'm joining the navy"
face palm.
Thanks for the email Stossel to watch this great video.
I'm biased. Between 1st and 12th grade, I've been in public, private, and home school. The best education was in private school, but it's definitely more important in the younger years. I was in public school during high school and I was consistently in the top 10% even though I never considered myself college worthy. I simply liked to learn and had a strong work ethic.
private schools are better because they can deny kids, they can choose how big their student base is. public schools cant do that, everyone deserves an education and all that.
The biggest problem with kids in public schools today is PARENTS! After living with a primary educator for 43 years, believe me, I know. Parents used to support the school and the teachers, now it's "how dare you say that about my little snowflake!". When I got my butt whupped at school, I got it double at home. Same with MY KIDS and they are all happy and successful.
and in reality they should be going after the administration and the union, not the teachers.
TexasScout Noneofyourbusiness I never got my butt whupped at home, and definitely not at school. I am very happy and I think pretty successful. I cannot understand why you would hit a kid if you don’t have to. Doesn’t make any sense.
Cheddar And after 41 years of people like you, we see the results in the schools.
Cheddar You don't have to beat the kid but the kid does need to know that you the parent are in charge and have high expectations.
Are you suggesting that not being hit by parents is what makes people like that? What evidence is there for that? Me, my sister, my girlfriend all never were hit. My sister and I are anarcho-capitalists, and my girlfriend is conservative. I know plenty of people who were never hit and turned out great and don't have any desire to act out disruptively nor suppress dissenting views. Clearly it is possible to turn out well while not being hit. Good parenting does not need to include physical harm.
One thing that all NY schools do that most of the rest don't is separate children by test scores so that struggling kids are taught in the same school and the high achieving kids go to a different school. Every year a kid can apply for a slot at a better school if they have improved academically and can handle the harder work.
This is the exeption, these kids parents obviously take an interest in their childs lives
Leave it to government to try to fix an issue by throwing more money at it even though it's completely and utterly broken
Ty
Another interesting example of why we need charter schools over public schools.
The kid looking at his mom at 2:13 says, "Man, I am really fucked!"
Well done.
Till 4:30? That is a lot. When i was in india, my school hours were from 7:30am to 1:45pm till 10th grade and 12:30pm in 11th and 12th grade.
The difference is that we had slightly higher level of emphasis on science and math.
Did I have the only charter school that didn’t teach their students properly??? Once I reached a public hs I’ve literally had to relearn things other students learned hella long ago since we weren’t taught anything. My teachers never taught or explained anything, they made us only do book work and look up answers if we didn’t understand.
Public schools may be awful- or they may be excellent. This is why open enrollment is so important.
As a kid how goes to private school I welcome kids who came from charter schools
I usually don’t like stossel but this was a really good one
We sent our daughter to a charter school, it was terrible. I’m not saying that they’re all bad but in Oakland California (highest concentration of charters in the state) none of the charter schools even come close to the top public schools in the district. Ultimately your children’s education is up to you not the school they attend.
anyone else notice that the successful charter schools have male teachers in them?
Freedom: everyone has a different life, so they can do what they want.
Fucking perfect!
How many kids hate school because of the why they teach them and not the work.
It’s called “School Choice” for a reason. If you want to send your child to a crappy government run school, you’re free to do so just as a decent parent would not.
Charter schools can be awful if their aren't regulations in place.
Yes, "there's nothing wrong with the kids, there's something wrong with the system"
I'm just curious, are carter school teachers Unionized?
yes, but a different union. not the SS.
Unions sucks
Amazing
The Amish around here only go till the 8th grade and are some of the most successful people in our neighborhood
I want to know how kids who applied but did not get in did compared to kids who got into the Charter schools. That is the comparison we need since there is a self selection process.
It depends on what state we're talking about. Many of the for-profit charter schools in Michigan perform worse than public schools, and because funding to schools depends on how many kids show up, charter schools dilute funding. It's not a black and white issue. There do need to be some standards and oversight.
There oversight is parents. If they underperform parents can pull their kids out and put them back in traditional public schools. Who knows better what a kid needs the parents or the government?
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How can they manage a 7:45 till 16:30 day, that's 8 hours and 45 mins, they don't get much time out of school
Look for the teacher's unions in the comments. :-)
Games and play are great for Kids and their learning.
This clearly shows that kids can excel if they are install the right mindset from young
That little black child was terrified of the woman yelling.
What’s the name of the background song @ 5:35?
No Young Turks correspondent understands what they're talking about
"Children rise to the level of expectation." I see Ms. Moskowitz has learned well from Jaime Escalante.
Young friend homeschooling her 6 kids 1st-6th. All got scholarship to high end private school sponsored by Texas A&M. Oldest girl cried like her heart was broken in 9th when she got a B. Lowest grade of her life. You can do it ,too. Watch old Jay Leno when he asked teachers getting their Masters questions Boomers learned by 6th. Deer in headlights indeed.
I have an idea... Mail each parent a voucher of the value that the gov would spend on their education, then the parent goes out and chooses a private school, they can add extra money out of their own pocket to go to a better one or they can just use what the voucher is worth.
Wait, if they teach the public school the same, they would have the same rate,
Its the system that allows the teachers to teach teachers today only do what there told to do no more an no less an then there's teacher's that go above an beyond
I have found that 85/90%of teachers will go out of their way to help my autistic son. It's only a small percent of teachers and administration that fails him.
I can only assume this carries over to everyone else as well. In short, it's not teachers but the system.
Its the funding an the system that teaches teachers an what they allow for teacher
bis nik I guess it depends how you define "go out of their way." I went to a Catholic school here in New Orleans.. the best all girls school and second best over all in the metro area and maybe all of southern Louisiana, and I didn't get 85%-90% of teachers willing to go out of their way for me, a struggling student. Nonetheless, I learned a lot, and I'm ultimately incredibly grateful for my education, especially living in a city with horrific public school performance.. but somehow I expect that your estimates are a bit off. I could be wrong, of course.
I was in a "top" whatever school district. Always ground my gears a little to hear people touting that shit like it was settled business.
Bushrod Rust Johnson what shit?
Some of this success can be attributed to parental involvement.
They make great school in Africa...
What about charter schools that fail?
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STOSSEL/REMY 2024.
Interesting how you only allowed Nomiki to say one sentence before moving on.
Seamus Callaghan I'm doubtful she had anything exciting to add. it's rare that folks with tyt have anything intelligent to add. it happens on occasion, but it's doubtful in this case. anyone who continues to support a continuously failing public school system kinda boggles my mind. why be against something different without trying it first? charter schools have done wonders for education here in New Orleans. it's incredible the amount of change in just 9-12 years. so why fight it? give charters a chance, ya know?
I absolutely agree that charter schools should be an option, but as a Michigander, our state has been abusing them. Many for-profit charter schools here are performing worse than even public schools, and since school funding is dependent on the number of students at the school, our failing charter schools are diluting funding for struggling public schools.
Seamus Callaghan that's a shame.. and I'm not exactly sure what the best way to address that would be.
From what I've heard, it's mostly a lack of proper oversight and corruption. The industry wants to make as much money as they can, and they do that by opening as many schools as they can as cheap as they can, without sufficient justification from an educational perspective. They get away with it because the industry and its supporters are major donors to a lot of our politicians - Betsie Devos was one of them before becoming Secretary of Education.
Video would be too long with an extra half an hour of Nomiki lying.
I went to Founder classical Academy for part of my high school it was a pretty good school Course I don't have a comparison cause I was home schooled
When you go to school you are learning to be employable so you should learn at employable hours 8 hr days for high school.
What happened to taking the best and the brightest and having them teach?
Here's my idea: encourage home education for those who are able to home educate, and for those who can't (such as the poor), replace the centralized government schooling system with a system made up of DEcentralised charter schools combined with school choice, with schools being made to respect individual student's rights as much as the government would have to in the real world, and have the people go for concepts such as the Waldorf and Montessori systems that not only respect the student's individuality but also actually fosters creativity and the real learning of actual, practical skills and knowledge.
I have additional content, being a playlist called "Truth about school & education exposed, plus education reform, student's rights, & is school a waste of time?" (which is on my channel's homepage), and an article called "Ultimate education reform article list & video list. Problems with public education/schools, & how to fix them", the latter of which will be linked below.
saynotodemocide1.blogspot.com/2017/10/ultimate-education-reform-article-list.html
Parents and their children are lining up for a chance at getting into Moscovitz's school. That right there shows you that the kids were probably going to do well in an academic environment (parental support). Perhaps the sample is not as random as they make it out to be.
It's easy parenting to put children in "a better school". A really better school can pick up some slack from there after those parents pat themselves on the back for their skills and vanity, whereas an ordinary school has a high likelihood of just producing shit out of capable children no matter how hard parents try. Hopefully these charter schools can somewhat stabilize the performance of intelligent kids and that it is bringing out better results in addition to the higher performing core of students they start with. Really impossible to study.
@@MilwaukeeF40C sure parents are stepping up for change because their kids are in great schools
Lets talk for 6 minutes about how awesome charter schools are and how bad public schools are and cherry pick our studies and graphs and tell little children to shout "learning is fun!" into the camera. And make sure to ignore the failed charter schools that closed because they did not make a profit and resulted in thousands of children to miss an entire year of education and fall behind. Not to mention the teachers and staff who lose their jobs and the parents who have to fight over a place at another charter school or a public school.
I think he did do that. He states that not all charterschools are successful but parents have a choice and I agree with that. I should be able to send my kid to the school I feel is best for his or her needs. I can risk it and send my kid to a charter school or play it safe at a traditional school. It's my choice and I think I know what's best for my kid over some goverment official. Why does the government get to force my kid to go to a certain school based on where my house is located?
As of lunch time on 1-24-18 it looks like 27 government school union members watched this video.
This is exposing the biggest public school myth: learning is boring.
Ignoring charters are given special privilege like being paid regularly whereas in philly for example they get paid monthly, so half of all the money they have goes to debt. And charter schools can kick out under performing kids inflating passing records, smth public schools cant. The whole idea of charter schools and school choice is flawed, education is a credence good that wont be used by the person "shopping" around. If that kid gets a bad education the parent wouldnt know or that kid, and charters themselves take from the pot of money given to schools. Instead of "school choice" just allow the teachers to vote on the curriculum, pay them regularly, arm them to cut down on SROS and security funding and get rid of BOE's as they dont help individual teachers.