No worries at all; thanks for sharing these in-depth details and news about the actors! They should never have been rushed to finish such a beloved series because HOTD and GOT could have been shot and aired in between seasons of each other 🔥❤🔥🔥
ever since they decided to portray the death of Ser Barristan Selmy {who is surely not dead in the books and instead rules the city of Meereen on Daenerys Targaryen's behalf when Daenerys Targ is adbucted by a band of Dothraki hordes}.
Her face with the "best season ever!" says it all. She subtly warned us. I feel bad for Emilia. She was clearly proud to have played Dany, only for her whole arc to be trashed at the last minute. But at least there's a silver lining in that her acting career still seems to be going well!
Am I the only one who really hates that interview? That hysterical laughter from that interviewer somehow makes my blood boil! Am I missing some context or something? And, not that I wanna blame the interviewer for everything that went wrong with the show, that would be wildly unfair, but her behavior is, I think, emblematic of where the show went wrong. It became the equivalent, for a TV show, of a lazy Katy Perry/Harry Styles pop song, made for the 50% of the populace with an IQ below 100. People like that interviewer, who'd laugh hysterically at Emilia Clarke coming up with a goofy expression and a, well... rather unfunny sarcastic remark.
She's played Daenerys through a stroke, sick and all. Of course she was proud of playing Daenerys, and she put everything she had in her, she's expressed it several times. Idk how it comes as a surprise that Emilia hated the last season and was disheartened by the way they treated Daenerys at the end, she's said it for years, ever since the show ended. She's the one who faked throwing up when someone in an interview asked her what she thought about the final season, she's the one being like "best season eva!!!" sarcastically at red carpets, and she's the one who made interviews about how heartbroken and scared she was at the idea of fans hating Daenerys and considering her a genocidal maniac.
I would just have to disagree about the ending being "divisive", which would imply that some people strongly thought one thing, and others strongly disagreed. It was, instead, universally thought of as rushed and bad.
I think it was obvious that Emilia hated season 8 from the moment she gave that pained expression in the interview and said "...best season ever!" It had all the sincerity of someone who's been told that they're under contract to tell the audience that it's the best season ever, so she did it as unconvincingly as she felt she could get away with. Her co-stars reactions look like she'd said she was going to do something like this and they were in on the joke and couldn't believe she'd actually gone through with it.
I get that impression, too. I was doubly surprised by Grey Worm and Gendry's actors, who were extremely critical very early after the show's finale aired.
Exactly. I always knew she would not have a good ending. I figured either her or Jon would die in the end of the series. They could have done so much with her ending, but they just rushed it and ruined it. They turned all the characters into caricatures of themselves. I get angry whenever I think about it. I'm just happy there is House of the Dragon and that is pretty good so far.
It was I hate how they made it seem like she was a tyrant but justifying Sansa and Arya doing what they did but they themselves said they felt uncomfortable about dany being cold about viserys death and that’s a foreshadowing she is mad. Plus they wanted to make a show about the confederates winning and felt bad for the slavers she killed speaks volumes to what they always thought of her after season one
Really it wasn't just Daenerys. It was also the Night King/White Walkers storyline, the Bran storyline, the Lannisters storyline, the Golden Company- I mean, everything. And you know they had nothing in their own universe to justify Daenerys turning mad when all they had to show as "previous signs" is... "well she wasn't sad when her abusive brother died!! and she killed slavers!! aren't... aren't you sad about the poow wittle slavers??? :((((" and Jon Snow litterally lying through his teeth like "I had to choose between my crown and saving the north, so I chose to bend the knee" when literally Daenerys swore her forces to help Jon BEFORE he "bent the knee". All that added to Samwell who didn't have any conversation with Daenerys ever saying "would she give up her crown to save the Kingdom??" as if it wasn't just what she did when she decided to ride north with her entire army, rather than going to KL to deal with Cersei yknow... 🤷♀ The way it's so inconsistently written, it's crazy. Daenerys on episode 4: *does exactly what Tyrion advises her to do, resulting in Missandei dying, because Tyrion's whole plan was literally a braindead plan* Tyrion on episode 5: "our Queen didn't listen to us!" HUH??? Out of the blue, after 7 seasons of plotting to bring Dany back to Westeros, Varys says "oh nooo the male heir is so much better!" even tho he's always plotted against Robert because he valued Robert as a bad king because "he didn't want the crown"... but Jon who has only this line - "I don't want it" - during s8 is all the sudden fit for the role *because he doesn't want it* ???? Not to mention all this debate on s7 about how Dany all the sudden wasn't really fit to become Queen because she supposedly can't have heir, and Tyrion got all worked up about that, but THEN on s8, oh Bran can't have heir?? PERFECT! All of this sounded like D&D were actually the ones who had a stroke and "kinda forgot" about their entire show (and that's me being nice, because me being not nice is me truly believing that D&D are two sexist fcks for pretending that a Queen killing her enemies is "crazy", wanting power is her being "genocidal" whereas idk Robb Stark running wild through the whole Kingdom for revenge was "a hero", and not being able to have heir is "a fault" but a quality in men??)
Wish the fans were more respectful of Jack Gleeson, he did am amazing job. He was so hated in his role to bleed into real life ,unfortunately. Miss him
@@zakunick1She suffered two brain aneurysms within filming the first 3 seasons I believe and amazingly survived both without it affecting her mental function. True mother of dragons right there.
Nope. The aneurysm stook place outside of the set...the 1st time she was at the gym right after filming season 1. The 2nd was during the filming of season 2 or 3 (cant remember), not WHILST filming. 2 different things
Yes and she said she really pushed on through those aneurysms because she was so honored and excited to play Dany and was terrified of being replaced. She kept it all a secret because of that as well and suffered in silence. Not even Jason Mamoa knew.
"Emilia Clarke Disappointed by Game of Thrones Season 8" from 4 years ago. Then "Emilia Clarke Breaks Her Silence About The Infamous GoT Finale" 2 years ago. Exactly how many times can one break their silence?
I think the actors were being respectful to the other cast and crew because despite D&D messing up the ending , the cast and crew worked their a$$es off, and the production value was still above anything else on TV at the time. If D&D had stayed on good terms with GRRM, the writing would never have gone so far off the original seasons
What happened between D&D and GRRM? I only know about Martin findig 8 seasons too short for the Story (just like what he said in this video). Was there something else?
@@hermitray I'd believe it. They were frantically chasing those Disney Star Wars gigs and wanted to wrap things up. The spiteful side of me says I'm glad that fell through for them after people saw how shoddy they handled Season 8.
@ca6585 I think it was creative differences after they ran out of source material. I think they just ran with it and stopped getting input from GRRM. He used to write episodes and be at all season premieres and comic con. He stopped doing all of that. I think D&D got cocky and took most of the credit for the success of the show. GRRM is a proud man, I think. So he didn't like the way D&D acted. Or he didn't like what they did with the show after they ran out of written material. But he is very involved in HotD, so i think he learned his lesson and put it in writing how much control he wanted.
I have always said that Emelia's facial expression, in that one interview on the red carpet, spoke more volumes about her true feelings of how the show ended than any possible words that could have tumbled out of her mouth. It was OBVIOUS she wasn't happy with the conclusion of the show. So what she's saying now is pretty much stuff I already knew she felt, deep down inside. "Game of Thrones" deserved so much better!
Here's what I hate the most about all of it, FLIPPING Tyrion tells Jon to kill her and he gets no punishment at all, in fact he's rewarded with choosing the King and being the Hand of the King from then on. Yet Dany dies and Jon has to rejoin the Night's Watch
I can’t describe how amazing game of thrones made me feel from end of 2017-2019 right before the final season… I haven’t watched it since and it’s like I broke up with my first love and can’t get over the grief
I was literally going to buy all the seasons in blu ray, until season 8. Once the night king, who got hyped for 7 seasons died in 2 seconds, they completely lost me. 🤣
@@samf.s.7731 YES!! Even with the bad writing they ate!! Like Daenerys speach to the Unsullied and Dothraki... it´s hard to believe that Emilia was able to do such a performance, SHE IS PHENOMENAL!
I think what irritates me the most is that a lot of people think the fans are mad because Dany went mad and we didn’t get a “happy“ ending. This is Game of Thrones. I’m not expecting happy endings just satisfying ones that make sense. we KNEW Dany would go mad. No one was arguing that Dany wouldn’t go mad. It was foreshadowed that she would go mad. But foreshadowing is not the same as character development.
It it isn’t so much that we expect happy endings just a satisfying closure. The entire season was of the characters acting entirely different than what we saw in the seven seasons prior, especially Tyrion. And Dani wiping out King’s Landing seemed odd as hell considering how she was always about defending innocents. Also…Golden Company REALLY got the short end of the stick!
Hahaha. You did the thing. "Foreshadowing is not character development". That's what the crybabies were saying after the show. So when dany said "when my dragons are grown I will burn cities to the ground" was that foreshadowing or character development? I'll explain the difference in real terms. When others were talking about her "Targaryens all go crazy" that is foreshadowing. When she's directly talking herself and saying what she wants to do, that's character development. Fyi that quote was the end of season 2. 8 years later you were shocked when she did exactly that.
@@suzukisixk7 She also said she doesn't wish to be queen of the ashes and she wants to break the wheel, that she wants people to follow her per their own will, not as slaves forced to be there. Much of what was said, by her and others, implies that this ending was possible. But they needed to show that process over time, more organically. The way they did it was lazy and unsatisfying. Also, it's interesting how you are casting anyone who disagrees with you as a crybaby when you're the one acting butthurt over a difference of opinion.
@@suzukisixk7 While the ending wasn't written particularly well, those folks claiming surprise are not being honest I think. Maybe even just jumping on a bandwagon of sorts. I've been saying her descent into madness has ALWAYS been in our faces from her first scene for years.
Dany burning King's Landing on purpose was a last minute change. She was only suppose to burn a portion of it then a wild fyre change reaction occurs. In the commentary, she wondered why Jon Snow was yelling at Dany in the thrown room. D&D made those changes without even telling her.
Honestly the most disappointing part of season 8 was the 3 lines Cersi had. She was literally a better villain than the NK and she basically spent season 8 looking out a window. Every single part of season 8 was bad, but they did Cersi way more wrong than Danny.
Let's be honest, D&D wrote EVERYONE in Season 7-8 dirty. Cersei, Dany, the Night King and Jon got the worst of it though and they were arguably the most important characters. It's because of the whiplashing speed from big one scene to the next. No character was allowed to develop or have more than a few minutes of screen time. I agree with Cersei though. You can sum up her story in seasons 7-8 as mostly staring menacingly out of a window.
At this point it doesn't matter what any of the actors think. It's not going to change anything. 'The past is already written, the ink is dry'~Three Eyed Raven
Yea i don't really care about any interviews about the last season of which no one wants to even speak about anymore. HOTD is what i care about now. It's been great so far, i can only hope the people working on it got a good idea of what NOT to do with a show.
It's a case study in how to drop the ball so spectacularly that it retroactively ruins one of the biggest media properties of its decade. We can all learn something from it, it's like a Greek tragedy
Yeah, pretty much. But John Bradley and Liam Cunningham are still working with D&D on The Three-Body Problem, so we'll never hear smack talk from those two unless there's a creative falling out.
@@TurquoiseStar17 I totally agree, John is such a sweetheart though so I doubt he would even speak his feelings.. Liam as well. Who knows 🤔 I do love both those actors!
The most infuriating part of the story is that if she wanted to kill Cersei, she just had to fly Drogon directly to the Red Keep and burn it down. But yet, no one advising her ever saw that as an option.
Daenerys herself said she should do that and they acted like it was a horrible idea that would make her just as bad as Cersei. Which is rediculous since the Red Keep was surrounded by water on 3 sides and was situated a safe distance from the rest of King's Landing. It would've been a contained fire, especially since every time they showed the inside of the castle it was mostly empty.
@hybridbutterfly3908 what some of you fail to remember is that she brought almost everyone into the red keep so that Dany would have to kill civilians just to kill her.
Emilia worked half of her life in game of thrones I think she has every right to say how she feels she had the hardest time with health issues and she pulled through no matter what it’s not fair at all what happened to her character and also the character dragons as well we all know the ending could have ended with out her being killed
Ryan Condal described Syrax's swiftness and speed, "so I tried to go for the arrow-shaped head and streamlined body, inspired by the beautiful Concorde". The nod he gave to Rhaenyra's Arryn blood shows how well he knew the books. If only they passed the torch to him, a true fan.
The last season reminds me of my home renovation projects. At first, I'm measuring, being extra careful with every little detail. Prolonging what should be a few days task into months. But by the end of it I'm so sick of it I just start throwing stuff together. This is exactly how I felt about this series.
I think it's also not so much that Emilia Clarke "came to realise" that the ending wasn't good but more that she realised it already during the shooting of the last season, but of course she can't bad mouth the last season while it's being aired as this would be bad for the show, for her colleagues, and for her as well. I think that's why we are seeing these actors voicing their opinions on it years later because at this point it can't really do anymore harm.
I totally agree. There were many unanswered questions and plenty of storylines to play out to their ultimate conclusion. I feel like I was invited to a feast and just given an appetizer. Rushing the end ruined the continuity and story-telling.
I always feel that in interviews, you could tell that all the actors were angry about the ending of A Game of Thrones before its actual premiere. I don't blame the actors for not speaking out, but in all the interviews that I watched before the season came out, I could tell that the actors weren't happy with the last season. I still expected better than what we got.
People would have been upset about Dany deep frying KL even if her descent into madness had happened over another few seasons but at least it would have made sense. D & D only did it for shock value. While it was definitely shocking it totally killed the series along with Tyrion suddenly becoming a retard, Jon getting away with murdering Dany, Grey Worm not taking vengeance and Bran going from "I don't care about anything" to "I planned all of this so I can be King."
The thing is about the shock value stuff... It made sense that Geoffrey, an unhinged spoiled kid wouldn't listen to his mom and have Ned Stark whacked. It made sense for the red wedding to happen because some people in history were backstabbing douchebags.. With Aeries II, it's clear that he had Bipolar I, serious paranoid delusions, and some other excentricties that would lead me to believe "Oh, in the year of our Lord 2023 he'd be institutionalized and they would have given him a lot of Lithium before letting him out". He'd burned bridges with his best friend and his own son. Dany never had any of that, because *that* is so specific it's right out of the DSM.
The way they made her torch this city just never made any sense. She always gave people an opportunity to bend the knee before burning them. It should have ended with her killing Cerci, then John fighting with the truth and deciding to leave with the wildlings to go north intentionally. Have it leave the story open for future, but the current war concluded. Dany could become crazy over the idea of him trying to come back, and take her throne later.
People seem to miss at the end when they all head beyond thw wall, flowers are poking through the snow, winter is done, the dream of spring was realized
sure but im not very hopeful they will get the same amazing actors,the stars really aligned with this show when it came to actors,tywin,tirion,cersei etc,an animated series is proly better
Pretty sure it’s because George gave the rights to D&D and not HBO. That means that anything George or hbo wanted to do like extending the show, the last decision is with d and d. which they did want to because George himself said there was more than enough source material to end it the right way but the writers chose to rush it and cram everything in just 13 episodes. Had HBO had the rights they most likely would’ve gotten new showrunners that would stick to the material and focus on providing a satisfying right and end to the show with multiple seasons
It makes me so sad to think how obsessed I was with GoT as a young adult. I truly believed this would be a show I'd rewatch at least twice a year after it finishes... then Season 8 happened... I now despise the show entirely... especially knowing how it ends, so I never rewatched it once since.
GoT is a good series. Just remember it ends with season 7 or even six. Season 8 is so often contradicted by seasons 1-7 of proper GoT anyway that it is sane to argue it is not part of the same story.
Would have never watched last xmas if I didn't fall in luv with her acting skillz in got!!! And btw last xmas is pretty good and will hit ur heart if ya have one 😊
HBO was delusional about D&D, thinking people would stop watching if they replaced them. So ultimately its HBO's fault, they could easily have replaced D&D after season 6 or even season 7, among all shows, I think GOT was most likely one of the few who could make us wait few years for a new season
I love danarys. There will always be a chance for her return in our hearts and minds. Her arc was amazing and when the catspaw dagger is not there to save them they have the survivors to blame. The seven kingdoms needed her as the dragon. Sensa is no leader, she might think she is but she would never truly win a battle as the commander of an actual army would need. Danarys got all her training along the way and outlived many ordeals
When GRRM said 5 would survive til the end I truly believed the only Targaryen left would be one not the least of the 4 starks left. Yes Jon was a Targaryen not a stark but truth is he is a stark not really a Targaryen. Sansa should not of survived. Actually it would of been nice when she got so hateful and rude with Daenerys that Drogon would of showed some teeth and growled very loud and show her who she was.
Seeing pictures of Dany next to Dragons without having any idea what Game of Thrones was or what was going on was what got me into watching it all those years ago LOL Dany had this charisma & magic to her presence it was so surreal
I agree about sansa. She didn't earn it. We didn't get to see her become the mini little finger/ cersei she should have become. There was no plotting on her end. Just telling us how smart she is without actually showing it.
@@barbaraowen45 He's a Targaryen whether you like it or not. It's in his blood. There are many parallels between Jon scenes and daemon in the new show. That fire within him that comes out in battle is his father's blood. His parents were married therefore he's not a bastard.
Hopefully, Emilia can still come back in the Snow series in some form... Apart from that, Brandon becoming king was the most creepy thing ever, like when he said to John "Oh you were right where you were supposed to be" while John was being exiled, it screamed: something's wrong!
Nahhh the creepiest line was when he said "Why do you think I came all this way?" When asked if he would accept the crown even tho previously he said he couldn't be lord of anything as the 3 eyed raven 😮
@@alexandregrand-pierre1981 exactly! That situation where they made Bran King even though he said he couldnt be Lord of anything because he was the three eyed Raven pissed me off the most about the last season.
Fans started to notice the drop in quality in some season 4 moments, then it started to go down rapidly season 5 onward. What a coincidence, the show stopped being good when D&D had no more book material to lean on. It was always GRRM's writing that carried it.
Her slip into madness was rushed it happened in like 2 episodes. It should have taken at least a season. If it wasn’t so rushed Snow would’ve been applauded for it.
For me its not how Danaerys' story ends that's the problem, it's how they get there. Her heel turn could've been phenomenal if handled correctly. There was always the foreshadowing of the mad king and to have her serve as the main protagonist to go to the villain in the end couldve been the ultimate character arc. The idea of her arriving at this promised land, only to find that the people treat her as an unwanted outsider, that they dont appreciate her good intentions. To watch everyone she cares about slowly be taken away or turn their backs and betray her. To feel alone. To think of all she sacrificed to fulfill her destiny in westeros. To have the power she is slowly amassing go to her head. Maybe in the end as she's finally at breaking point, the people of kings landing side with cersei and stand against her in spite of the fact she looks to liberate them. Then finally she snaps, if you all want to die with your queen, so be it. I think the way GRM envisioned it, probably would've been amazing.
GRRM doesn't intend for her to end up there, her arc leads north to a heroic self sacrifice to free the enslaved wights (not by being murdered as part of a disgusting blood magic ritual either btw).
30 minutes could have saved GOT. Fans wanted to see Jon fought the knight king which could have been a couple of minutes. Fans wanted to see Cersei suffer with a horrible death and fans didn’t want to see Jon kills the mother of dragon🤦♂️
Thirty mins... lol. Not even close. Also, just literally changing those three things without improving the entire story structure and writing quality of the final two seasons would maybe bring it up from absolutely awful, to really bad.
The fact that folks who haven’t even read the books think she’s gonna go mad is irritating. Cersei is definitely gonna do some mad queen stuff since she literally burns people with wildfire to the point where Jamie saw a bit of aerys in her. She even gives innocent girls to Qyburn for him to experiment on as well as killing a child when she was young due to jealousy. George obviously loves dany as a character and even goes to show how misunderstood she is to people as well as questioning herself there’s no indication of her being happy with death and killing people when she doesn’t like it and isn’t bloodthirsty. But in the show d&d went out of their way to say that danys acts disturbed them but they’ll justify Sansa and Arya but not dany because it was foreshadowed since she let viserys die that she would be a mad queen. I mean the dialogue of Sansa Arya and Tyrion talking about dany is very telling since that’s how they view Daenerys as a character and letting the audience know that they were wrong to cheer for her but it’s ok for Arya to cook someone and feed it to them and slaughter and entire house 😒 they just had favorites and the ones they didn’t like they got lazy and ruined their arcs and story
Exactly I mean I’m not even a fan anymore of this universe but after reading the books I know Dany anit gonna go mad something about all this in S8 just screams to me undertones of sexism and they didnt want Dany to do better than her ancestors. But Ceresi already going mad.
Holy crap, I forgot about that throwaway thought on Aerys and Cersei. George doesn't do throwaways.😂 I have been totally convinced that Jamie and Cersei are the mad King's children and Tyrion is Tywin's only trueborn child. I saw this theory in a video and I can't let it go 😂😂😂 why else would Jamie go back to Cersei after finally getting with Brianne? He worked so hard to distance himself from Cersei, he wouldn't throw it all away. The man was a swordsman and even losing his dominant hand didn't stop him from progressing instead of regressing. I honestly believe he discovers that their father wasn't Tywin somehow, but George didn't tell D&D any of that, just that he died in King's Landing with his sister. So D&D played a shitty game of "Can You?" without the relevant information. And they just weren't creative enough to consider alternative motives.😂
Let's be honest, if she didn't die, than she we should have gotten away with a LOT of murder. And what do mean the "devisive" final season? There was no decisiveness about it, everyone hated it.
Sure, a lot of murder but that path would have given us more seasons who houses to betray one another, understand if Jon is the promised prince, created a new night king/queen, so much more. Instead, it ended with her death, Bran as king, and every house gathered around singing kumbaya
We all knew she got pissed of about the final season, just like anybody else. She was polite back then, but it was obvious they butchered her character
As many have already said, I don't think its where we ended up that most people take issue with. The issue is the route we took to get there and how the destination doesn't feel "earned" I guess? Basically, this is what happens when you rush things. It also doesn't help that we likely will never get the actual book ending either, with all the build up, as I'm beginning to think that George isn't going to finish his series, but time will tell. I haven't completely lost hope on that one just yet.
There definitely should have been more episodes in season 8, why they chose to do so few is beyond my (most other fans) competition. They took the cheap & easy way out.
And the fact they took an extra year to film the final season. Once I found out it was only 6 episodes, I thought they would make them like weekly 2 hour movies with all that time they made us wait 😤
Jon Snow getting away with murder was my least complaint in the end. Everybody murdered someone in GoT, even Sam murdered a white walker. Yes, these white walkers were mass murderers themselves, but so was Dany at the end of GoT. Tyrion murdered his father and ex lover and got away as well. So this seems to be the norm in Westeros. What I disliked was the turn of character of Dany. From one of the very few people who actually help others to crazy mass murderer in just 5 episodes. This puts people who help others into a bad light, while the selfish killers are the heroes. I do not like this kind of message.
@@peterversiononeVarys turned the Mad King against Rhaegar, to spread chaos and install a Blackfyre in the throne. Read the books and you'll see he's just as bad as LF
I’ve still never watched the final episode. Never will. Can’t believe how badly they crash landed the greatest series of all time. Dan & Dave should never work in Hollywood ever again.
10 seasons 10 episodes each. That is what this show should've been. That is what this story needed. I got the sense in season 6 that David and Dan were burnt out from having to deal with this behemoth they had created. GRRM didn't help with not focusing on finishing the story and just stalling the whole time. There is a lot of blame to go around.
Agreed. However if D and D are going to write their own story, which it is clear they increasingly did, they still have an obligation to keep it logical and consistent with itself. They failed at that very badly.
Honestly, the main issue I had with that is that there was no trial. Yes, there was a dragon to deal with, but somehow that was irrelevant with either choice. No trial for Little Finger either. I don't care if you are as guilty as sin, no fair trial equals tyranny. IMO it's a bunch of bad guys trying to act good.
It's not really possible to have a trial. She was the Queen, had an army and a dragon. But she was mad so murdering her was definitely the thing to do morally speaking. What's funny though is that Emilia doesn't like the end because her character was murdered ? That's kind of hilarious since there was a lot of other reason to criticize the ending. Moreover, her character being murdered was actually a good ending and probably the ending of Martin.
Man, such a ridiculous way to end GoT. HotD has reinvigorated many fans, even with its occasional blunders, but honestly.... at least it's got a solid leg to stand on, and has done rather well overall. Either way, this is rough to hear. Sad it ended the way it did but, its not the only show/franchise that's absolutely flopped on its ending.
HOTD is horrid to he time jumps are annoying, the actors are mid at best, the killed all the blk folks nearly, no one’s likable I mean get the Starks in or something, CGI on the dragons is cringe at best, the dragons have no personality, I mean if this is the best GRRM was gonna give us with his finished works let’s just ease up on D&D. But your entitled to your opinion I guess.
Given that I invested so much of my time watching this show, and how it ended, I can speak for myself that it was one of the worst show-endings of all time.
I think it wasn’t her finally realizing, you can see from her interviews she was being diplomatic. She’s a much more established actor now to be able to speak her mind more to the press about it, particularly now that HoTD is out.
"Although the actress voiced her strong support immediately after the release of the most hyped season" Emilia reeking of sarcasm: BEST SEASON EVER%%%%
This is refreshing to hear that the actors felt the same way. The burning of King's Landing at the end was totally idiotic, what a way to ruin a great series.
It doesn't have to end for Daenerys Targaryen. Aegon Targaryen (John Snow) was also stabbed in the heart. He was brought back by Melisandreh a few days later. She wasn't the only priestess of the Lord of Light. Drogon took Daenerys to Essos, to the other priests who might have brought Daenerys back. That would be something for season 9...
To be honest, Dave and DB were spoilt for the first few seasons because the majority of their writing work had already been done for them. They had the books to work from. with all the nuances of GRRM's writing there before them. The issues began when they over ran the books... and this is where the differences between GRRM's work, practised and polished, stood out in stark contrast. Then, realising what an enormous task they'd taken on, they first panicked, and then became bored, with what they were doing. Since they knew they simply couldn't just drop the show, they chose the other option, and tried to rush the end through. I guess the moral of this is pretty simple; don't over-run your source material. Pick a series of books that has either been completed, or is waiting for the final one to be published. And if you do chose to turn an unfinished series of novels into a show, make sure not to over run the current one in the sequence. Dave and DB had a lot of good material to work with, and story lines they could have used to extend the show's life, and not over run. Let's hope they've learned the lesson well, or else, not given something so prestigious to work with!
She suffered not one but two brain aneurysms while doing the show but continued on working regardless of almost dying. TWICE. Despite Kit Harrington being allowed to have a body double during his nude scene, she was refused a body double when having to do multiple full-fledged nude scenes. She was often left on set naked, without anything to cover herself with between takes. It got so bad that Jason Momoa had to cause a scene just so they would give her a robe. She was a game of thrones. Daenerys Targaryen *is* the most popular character in Asoiaf for a reason like it or not; it doesn’t matter; it’s just a fact. She worked on thrones for years; her character was the beacon of light, and it ended with the snap of a finger. All her work was for nothing; they ruined her character. i would be angry too.
Yup. And how many character did they break or damage as they did the version of season 8 that aired. At least the earlier version (where the plan was for King's Landing to be wrecked by wildfire) had a bit more logic. What we got was shock value and multi-level stupidity.
Dany should have gotten the thrown but d and d absolutely destroyed her character when she killed 100s of thousands of innocents in kings landing for no reason instead of just killing cersi.. so in that sense what she did was way worse than what Jon snow did.. man d and d ruined one of the greatest of it the greatest show of all time
The worst thing those two self-proclaimed "writers" did was completely disrespect the audience. It's pretty obvious that they lost any respect for the story, the characters, the cast, crew and the audience by about the middle of season 6. Almost exactly the same thing happened with the "Vikings" series.
I do hope that George R.R. Martin's The Winds of Winter will not be too influenced by the show and that he'll stay true to whatever vision he had planned for the books' ending regardless of how fans responded to the series' conclusion. Specifically, even if certain events that divided fans in the series also happen in Winds of Winter, I personally wouldn't want him to change it based on that. For better or worse, the books should end as they began: As the story he wanted to tell.
I don’t understand why HBO allowed D&D to destroy GOT. If they wanted it to end so badly, they should have just quit their jobs as writers and left it to writers who were passionate about actually doing quality writing. It’s crazy the level of power D&D were given to destroy what is arguably the best show ever (or should have been.)
She murdered the whole town....um... Maybe azor ahai play made more sense than the way it played out. I was so excited when they did the episode where the Jenny Oldstones song came up as it looked like it would be a great season, then it was what the heck the rest of the season.....
I don't think it makes sense to say Emelia only recently came to the realization that the show didn't end the way it should have. She was under contract. That contract continues after the show is over, because they get things like residuals. What they say publicly about the show is controlled by the terms of those contracts.
I don’t really necessarily mind that Daenerys went “mad.” I’m more about how we got there. Rewatching the show…she’s always been somewhat ruthless but season 7 & 8 just made it seem like it came out of nowhere. I’m really hoping for the books to do it better.
They did dany dirty but what they did to the night king, having her randomly shanked by a little girl in the most unbelievable way ever, was the true death of this show
Of course I agree that it was a huge disappointment in how they wrote Dani’s end. But Jon Snow killing her isn’t one of them. She had just committed mass murder to a city that had surrendered. Even afterward she had the unsullied execute the prisoners. But even then Jon Snow still gave her a chance. What pushed him over the edge was the fact that she was going do it everywhere for anyone who didn’t bow down to her. He killed her to stop more horrific atrocities.
It’s just sad they killed Varys who saw this and tried to warn Jon. That’s the part I always hated, and how Tyrion suddenly lost all his common sense, wisdom and ability to read through peoples bs…to becoming like some sheepless, mindless follower under Dany.
Daenerys said just ONE season before she didnt wanna be the Queen of Ashes so Im pretty sure she was disappointed that they wrote her into doing that seemingly out of nowhere. So Jon killing her was STILL some bullshit.
This. She’s just burned down an entire city, with hundreds of innocent people inside. But that’s ok? Sorry Emilia, I know you’re attached to Dany but she doesn’t get to walk away from that scot free. Also what a lot of people don’t mention is that while she was giving her big speech in Dothraki about conquering the world, after the burning of King’s Landing … Jon doesn’t understand what she’s saying until she mentions Winterfell … and he flinches, beginning to realise that she isn’t going to stop, that she’s planning to conquer the North as well … and what that means for the Starks, who he knows are not going to bow to her. So she’s threatening his family. He tried to get her to stop, but she proved she had no intention of doing so. He had no choice. He could have had her arrested, but in the end she had to be stopped.
@@missym877yeah she was. She’d been killing people since the beginning, we just didn’t mind because a lot of them were bad people. She didn’t suddenly turn from this gentle pacifist into a mad Queen, she’d been doing it all along.
There are some things I liked in season 8, but many more I didn't. What we can all agree on is that ending this show like it did and the rushness or everything with resulted in characters developments going down the drain, was a cultural crime. D&D committed a cultural crime. It's not about giving the fans what they want, but having compelling writing to juatify the actions. No one wanted the Red Wedding to happen or Ned Stark to die, but those events made sense because the writing made them make sense. And the public accepted those events even though they were shokingkly brutal things to see. Season 8 writing looks like it was done by a toddler.
I usually love to rewatch my favorite television series, but I have never sat down to rewatch GOT because I can't bear to be disappointed and angry again. The final couple of seasons were so unsatisfying, and for what, exactly? What have "D & D" done since that can justify ending GOT so early? I would gladly have spent another 2-3 with it, watching it unfold at a digestible pace.
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No worries at all; thanks for sharing these in-depth details and news about the actors! They should never have been rushed to finish such a beloved series because HOTD and GOT could have been shot and aired in between seasons of each other 🔥❤🔥🔥
No worries! Grateful for the video and you! Thank you and keep it up! Much love man ❤
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Knowing that the cast was interested in more seasons, Dan and Dave should've been replaced after season 5.
ever since they decided to portray the death of Ser Barristan Selmy {who is surely not dead in the books and instead rules the city of Meereen on Daenerys Targaryen's behalf when Daenerys Targ is adbucted by a band of Dothraki hordes}.
Ser Barristan even imprisoned Daenerys Targaryen's husband Hizdahr zo Loraq on the charges of treason against the *regnant Queen*
Exactly!!! And HBO and G.R.R. the creator ,wanted to keep going too. It literally makes no sense why they just didn't get new writers.
I agree with You Dan n Dave Should of been replaced
Fully agreed! They could have easily passed the torch to Ryan Condal and he would have made the effort to honour what GRRM has made.
Her face with the "best season ever!" says it all. She subtly warned us.
I feel bad for Emilia. She was clearly proud to have played Dany, only for her whole arc to be trashed at the last minute. But at least there's a silver lining in that her acting career still seems to be going well!
The cast reading of that moment and seeing how they reacted to it was telling
Am I the only one who really hates that interview? That hysterical laughter from that interviewer somehow makes my blood boil! Am I missing some context or something?
And, not that I wanna blame the interviewer for everything that went wrong with the show, that would be wildly unfair, but her behavior is, I think, emblematic of where the show went wrong. It became the equivalent, for a TV show, of a lazy Katy Perry/Harry Styles pop song, made for the 50% of the populace with an IQ below 100. People like that interviewer, who'd laugh hysterically at Emilia Clarke coming up with a goofy expression and a, well... rather unfunny sarcastic remark.
she had been in that role nearly her entire 20s. its such an insult to her work in the role. she literally had 2 aneurism's on the job.
lol- didn't secret invasion tank?
She's played Daenerys through a stroke, sick and all. Of course she was proud of playing Daenerys, and she put everything she had in her, she's expressed it several times. Idk how it comes as a surprise that Emilia hated the last season and was disheartened by the way they treated Daenerys at the end, she's said it for years, ever since the show ended. She's the one who faked throwing up when someone in an interview asked her what she thought about the final season, she's the one being like "best season eva!!!" sarcastically at red carpets, and she's the one who made interviews about how heartbroken and scared she was at the idea of fans hating Daenerys and considering her a genocidal maniac.
I would just have to disagree about the ending being "divisive", which would imply that some people strongly thought one thing, and others strongly disagreed. It was, instead, universally thought of as rushed and bad.
Facts, i wish George would of collabed with One Piece like he wanted too. Its crazy.
Dan and Dave liked it lol
It was divided in that some thought the basic plot was decent but the execution was horrible, while others thought it was awful in both respects.
Absolutely. No one in the entire planet with a functioning brain liked it. It was an objective and abject failure.
@@brucetucker4847 if everyone agrees the execution was horrible, then everyone agrees the final product was - horrible.
I think it was obvious that Emilia hated season 8 from the moment she gave that pained expression in the interview and said "...best season ever!" It had all the sincerity of someone who's been told that they're under contract to tell the audience that it's the best season ever, so she did it as unconvincingly as she felt she could get away with. Her co-stars reactions look like she'd said she was going to do something like this and they were in on the joke and couldn't believe she'd actually gone through with it.
I get that impression, too. I was doubly surprised by Grey Worm and Gendry's actors, who were extremely critical very early after the show's finale aired.
For all the Americans out there, it's called irony, not insincerity. Every native speaker of the Queen's English knew exactly what she meant.
@@stuarttaylor3642damn that's craazyyy
I was under the impression that they agreed with her.
Right up there with Sigourney telling us how scary Alien 3 would be.
It wasn't that Dany became the Mad Queen, it's the lightening fast way they did it.
It was, they literally throw her character development to the trash, we don't need two mad queen's.
It was so many things. D & D apparently had literally zero understanding of the characters in a show they'd produced 6 seasons of.
Exactly. I always knew she would not have a good ending. I figured either her or Jon would die in the end of the series. They could have done so much with her ending, but they just rushed it and ruined it. They turned all the characters into caricatures of themselves. I get angry whenever I think about it. I'm just happy there is House of the Dragon and that is pretty good so far.
It was I hate how they made it seem like she was a tyrant but justifying Sansa and Arya doing what they did but they themselves said they felt uncomfortable about dany being cold about viserys death and that’s a foreshadowing she is mad. Plus they wanted to make a show about the confederates winning and felt bad for the slavers she killed speaks volumes to what they always thought of her after season one
Really it wasn't just Daenerys. It was also the Night King/White Walkers storyline, the Bran storyline, the Lannisters storyline, the Golden Company-
I mean, everything.
And you know they had nothing in their own universe to justify Daenerys turning mad when all they had to show as "previous signs" is... "well she wasn't sad when her abusive brother died!! and she killed slavers!! aren't... aren't you sad about the poow wittle slavers??? :((((" and Jon Snow litterally lying through his teeth like "I had to choose between my crown and saving the north, so I chose to bend the knee" when literally Daenerys swore her forces to help Jon BEFORE he "bent the knee". All that added to Samwell who didn't have any conversation with Daenerys ever saying "would she give up her crown to save the Kingdom??" as if it wasn't just what she did when she decided to ride north with her entire army, rather than going to KL to deal with Cersei yknow... 🤷♀ The way it's so inconsistently written, it's crazy. Daenerys on episode 4: *does exactly what Tyrion advises her to do, resulting in Missandei dying, because Tyrion's whole plan was literally a braindead plan* Tyrion on episode 5: "our Queen didn't listen to us!" HUH??? Out of the blue, after 7 seasons of plotting to bring Dany back to Westeros, Varys says "oh nooo the male heir is so much better!" even tho he's always plotted against Robert because he valued Robert as a bad king because "he didn't want the crown"... but Jon who has only this line - "I don't want it" - during s8 is all the sudden fit for the role *because he doesn't want it* ???? Not to mention all this debate on s7 about how Dany all the sudden wasn't really fit to become Queen because she supposedly can't have heir, and Tyrion got all worked up about that, but THEN on s8, oh Bran can't have heir?? PERFECT! All of this sounded like D&D were actually the ones who had a stroke and "kinda forgot" about their entire show (and that's me being nice, because me being not nice is me truly believing that D&D are two sexist fcks for pretending that a Queen killing her enemies is "crazy", wanting power is her being "genocidal" whereas idk Robb Stark running wild through the whole Kingdom for revenge was "a hero", and not being able to have heir is "a fault" but a quality in men??)
I met Emilia in real life! She's really nice! So many people where supportive of her and Daenerys and even she knew what the writers did was bs!
Wish the fans were more respectful of Jack Gleeson, he did am amazing job. He was so hated in his role to bleed into real life ,unfortunately. Miss him
Yeah unfortunately that happens when you play a certain kind of character, people think you're actually like that. @@dastellarnapster1652
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I would kidnap her
Imagine almost dying twice on the set of a show to have your character ruined and killed off in the worst way.
What happened to her on set?
@@zakunick1She suffered two brain aneurysms within filming the first 3 seasons I believe and amazingly survived both without it affecting her mental function. True mother of dragons right there.
Nope. The aneurysm stook place outside of the set...the 1st time she was at the gym right after filming season 1. The 2nd was during the filming of season 2 or 3 (cant remember), not WHILST filming. 2 different things
Stop nitpicking, she was poorly…..have a heart mate, she soldiered on though
Yes and she said she really pushed on through those aneurysms because she was so honored and excited to play Dany and was terrified of being replaced. She kept it all a secret because of that as well and suffered in silence. Not even Jason Mamoa knew.
I don’t think she finally came to that realization I just think she is now comfortable with expressing it.
"Emilia Clarke Disappointed by Game of Thrones Season 8" from 4 years ago. Then "Emilia Clarke Breaks Her Silence About The Infamous GoT Finale" 2 years ago.
Exactly how many times can one break their silence?
@@_Feanor_. wow you sure have a lot of free time on your hands
The NDA met its end lol
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I think the actors were being respectful to the other cast and crew because despite D&D messing up the ending , the cast and crew worked their a$$es off, and the production value was still above anything else on TV at the time. If D&D had stayed on good terms with GRRM, the writing would never have gone so far off the original seasons
What happened between D&D and GRRM? I only know about Martin findig 8 seasons too short for the Story (just like what he said in this video). Was there something else?
@@hermitray I'd believe it. They were frantically chasing those Disney Star Wars gigs and wanted to wrap things up. The spiteful side of me says I'm glad that fell through for them after people saw how shoddy they handled Season 8.
@@hermitray thank you! I heard this, too. But didnt know it was a Problem for Martin
@ca6585 I think it was creative differences after they ran out of source material. I think they just ran with it and stopped getting input from GRRM. He used to write episodes and be at all season premieres and comic con. He stopped doing all of that. I think D&D got cocky and took most of the credit for the success of the show. GRRM is a proud man, I think. So he didn't like the way D&D acted. Or he didn't like what they did with the show after they ran out of written material. But he is very involved in HotD, so i think he learned his lesson and put it in writing how much control he wanted.
Agreed. Also, GRRM was too classy to publicly decry the horrid final season.
I have always said that Emelia's facial expression, in that one interview on the red carpet, spoke more volumes about her true feelings of how the show ended than any possible words that could have tumbled out of her mouth. It was OBVIOUS she wasn't happy with the conclusion of the show. So what she's saying now is pretty much stuff I already knew she felt, deep down inside.
"Game of Thrones" deserved so much better!
Nobody cares, we all saw the video, you're adding nothing.
@@This_Is_Something don't be a c***
I mean she made it pretty obvious
Here's what I hate the most about all of it, FLIPPING Tyrion tells Jon to kill her and he gets no punishment at all, in fact he's rewarded with choosing the King and being the Hand of the King from then on. Yet Dany dies and Jon has to rejoin the Night's Watch
Yep makes no sense whatsoever.
Also- WHY DOES THE NIGHTS WATCH STILL EXIST
@@ericvulgate There was no Night Watch, it was just a way to calm Grey Worm down.
Jon joined the free folk.
meanwhile how many people got killed just because they refused to do exactly as Dany wanted or because she didnt wanna pay for those unsullied
And the unsullied not killing both of them for what they did.
I can’t describe how amazing game of thrones made me feel from end of 2017-2019 right before the final season… I haven’t watched it since and it’s like I broke up with my first love and can’t get over the grief
After 4 years, I’m finally rewatching the series. Do yourself a favor and at least watch the first four seasons again. They’re so brilliant!
@@dereka5017 season 4 is my favorite!! When I used to go back and watch years ago I’d always go there😂
It's a fictional show... Makes sense to have some detachment and to not let it affect one that strongly.
Read the books.
@@flesruoYkcuFoGuoY I want to I just need to find the time. And by finding the time I mean not be lazy 😂
I’m glad the actors are speaking up. There is a reason I stopped buying the seasons on dvd/blu-ray after season 6.
I was literally going to buy all the seasons in blu ray, until season 8. Once the night king, who got hyped for 7 seasons died in 2 seconds, they completely lost me. 🤣
Season 7 was mediocre at best@@gernou92
I love Emilia because she has always repected the fans and she always recognized that the show was big because of the fans. ❤
Yeah, while everyone hated Dan and Dave, they really love the actors on the show.
When the writing took a dip, they had to still show up and perform.
@@samf.s.7731 YES!! Even with the bad writing they ate!! Like Daenerys speach to the Unsullied and Dothraki... it´s hard to believe that Emilia was able to do such a performance, SHE IS PHENOMENAL!
I think what irritates me the most is that a lot of people think the fans are mad because Dany went mad and we didn’t get a “happy“ ending. This is Game of Thrones. I’m not expecting happy endings just satisfying ones that make sense. we KNEW Dany would go mad. No one was arguing that Dany wouldn’t go mad. It was foreshadowed that she would go mad. But foreshadowing is not the same as character development.
It it isn’t so much that we expect happy endings just a satisfying closure. The entire season was of the characters acting entirely different than what we saw in the seven seasons prior, especially Tyrion. And Dani wiping out King’s Landing seemed odd as hell considering how she was always about defending innocents.
Also…Golden Company REALLY got the short end of the stick!
Hahaha. You did the thing. "Foreshadowing is not character development". That's what the crybabies were saying after the show.
So when dany said "when my dragons are grown I will burn cities to the ground" was that foreshadowing or character development?
I'll explain the difference in real terms. When others were talking about her "Targaryens all go crazy" that is foreshadowing. When she's directly talking herself and saying what she wants to do, that's character development.
Fyi that quote was the end of season 2. 8 years later you were shocked when she did exactly that.
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She also said she doesn't wish to be queen of the ashes and she wants to break the wheel, that she wants people to follow her per their own will, not as slaves forced to be there. Much of what was said, by her and others, implies that this ending was possible. But they needed to show that process over time, more organically. The way they did it was lazy and unsatisfying. Also, it's interesting how you are casting anyone who disagrees with you as a crybaby when you're the one acting butthurt over a difference of opinion.
Exactly
@@suzukisixk7 While the ending wasn't written particularly well, those folks claiming surprise are not being honest I think. Maybe even just jumping on a bandwagon of sorts. I've been saying her descent into madness has ALWAYS been in our faces from her first scene for years.
Dany burning King's Landing on purpose was a last minute change. She was only suppose to burn a portion of it then a wild fyre change reaction occurs. In the commentary, she wondered why Jon Snow was yelling at Dany in the thrown room. D&D made those changes without even telling her.
Whoa, where was this commentary?
damn that would have been a lot better
@@carla8687dvd commentary. The Dragon Demands talked about this, too
@@carla8687 I think the season 8 DVD/Blu-Ray. I think The Dragon Demands has a video about it.
@@wadegittleson1317 Yeah. They had concept artwork for it.
Honestly the most disappointing part of season 8 was the 3 lines Cersi had. She was literally a better villain than the NK and she basically spent season 8 looking out a window. Every single part of season 8 was bad, but they did Cersi way more wrong than Danny.
Let's be honest, D&D wrote EVERYONE in Season 7-8 dirty. Cersei, Dany, the Night King and Jon got the worst of it though and they were arguably the most important characters. It's because of the whiplashing speed from big one scene to the next. No character was allowed to develop or have more than a few minutes of screen time. I agree with Cersei though. You can sum up her story in seasons 7-8 as mostly staring menacingly out of a window.
This is the problem. The Night King should have been the big baddie at the end. But instead it was some aging incestous harpie.
She was a great villain. She deserved a heroic ending!! Her weakness at the end was totally out of character.
Cersei: “i did not always look out a window during season 8! “
Cersei looks out the window….
I wrote a short piece called "The Eyes of Cersie Lannister." At least I made sure she got her proper and deserved comeuppance.
At this point it doesn't matter what any of the actors think. It's not going to change anything.
'The past is already written, the ink is dry'~Three Eyed Raven
Yea i don't really care about any interviews about the last season of which no one wants to even speak about anymore. HOTD is what i care about now. It's been great so far, i can only hope the people working on it got a good idea of what NOT to do with a show.
ok so you dont care, thanks for sharing. most of the people here do, thats why they clicked on it.
It's a case study in how to drop the ball so spectacularly that it retroactively ruins one of the biggest media properties of its decade. We can all learn something from it, it's like a Greek tragedy
It's vindication for all of the fans who felt shafted by what we got. That feeling has value
I think there was a NDA after the show wrapped and now they can finally talk about it.
Yeah, pretty much. But John Bradley and Liam Cunningham are still working with D&D on The Three-Body Problem, so we'll never hear smack talk from those two unless there's a creative falling out.
@@TurquoiseStar17 I totally agree, John is such a sweetheart though so I doubt he would even speak his feelings.. Liam as well. Who knows 🤔 I do love both those actors!
Oh yeah that’s standard
The most infuriating part of the story is that if she wanted to kill Cersei, she just had to fly Drogon directly to the Red Keep and burn it down. But yet, no one advising her ever saw that as an option.
She kinda forgot she had a dragon
Daenerys herself said she should do that and they acted like it was a horrible idea that would make her just as bad as Cersei. Which is rediculous since the Red Keep was surrounded by water on 3 sides and was situated a safe distance from the rest of King's Landing. It would've been a contained fire, especially since every time they showed the inside of the castle it was mostly empty.
By that point she wasn't listening to advisors anyway because she didn't trust them anymore.
@hybridbutterfly3908 what some of you fail to remember is that she brought almost everyone into the red keep so that Dany would have to kill civilians just to kill her.
Your expectations were subverted!
Emilia worked half of her life in game of thrones I think she has every right to say how she feels she had the hardest time with health issues and she pulled through no matter what it’s not fair at all what happened to her character and also the character dragons as well we all know the ending could have ended with out her being killed
Ryan Condal described Syrax's swiftness and speed, "so I tried to go for the arrow-shaped head and streamlined body, inspired by the beautiful Concorde". The nod he gave to Rhaenyra's Arryn blood shows how well he knew the books. If only they passed the torch to him, a true fan.
Well his script writing is pretty cringy the way he describes a certain scene in episode one
The last season reminds me of my home renovation projects. At first, I'm measuring, being extra careful with every little detail. Prolonging what should be a few days task into months. But by the end of it I'm so sick of it I just start throwing stuff together. This is exactly how I felt about this series.
The ending was not "divisive." It was universally hated
She was extremely shocked and upset immediately after reading the script and was not happy with it.
I think it's also not so much that Emilia Clarke "came to realise" that the ending wasn't good but more that she realised it already during the shooting of the last season, but of course she can't bad mouth the last season while it's being aired as this would be bad for the show, for her colleagues, and for her as well. I think that's why we are seeing these actors voicing their opinions on it years later because at this point it can't really do anymore harm.
yeah her nda expired
I totally agree. There were many unanswered questions and plenty of storylines to play out to their ultimate conclusion. I feel like I was invited to a feast and just given an appetizer. Rushing the end ruined the continuity and story-telling.
I feel like I was invited to a feast and given cold diarrhea on a wet paper plate.
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That “BeSt SeAsOn EvEr!” answer and the way it was delivered will forever live in my head!
Can’t believe it’s been 4 years!
And I'm still furious.
And I'm still not over it...
And i still agree with Daenerys.
She aint do shii wrong...justified for sure.
I always feel that in interviews, you could tell that all the actors were angry about the ending of A Game of Thrones before its actual premiere. I don't blame the actors for not speaking out, but in all the interviews that I watched before the season came out, I could tell that the actors weren't happy with the last season. I still expected better than what we got.
The face of Emilia saying "Best Season ever!" is the best.
People would have been upset about Dany deep frying KL even if her descent into madness had happened over another few seasons but at least it would have made sense.
D & D only did it for shock value. While it was definitely shocking it totally killed the series along with Tyrion suddenly becoming a retard, Jon getting away with murdering Dany, Grey Worm not taking vengeance and Bran going from "I don't care about anything" to "I planned all of this so I can be King."
The thing is about the shock value stuff...
It made sense that Geoffrey, an unhinged spoiled kid wouldn't listen to his mom and have Ned Stark whacked. It made sense for the red wedding to happen because some people in history were backstabbing douchebags..
With Aeries II, it's clear that he had Bipolar I, serious paranoid delusions, and some other excentricties that would lead me to believe "Oh, in the year of our Lord 2023 he'd be institutionalized and they would have given him a lot of Lithium before letting him out". He'd burned bridges with his best friend and his own son.
Dany never had any of that, because *that* is so specific it's right out of the DSM.
They never explain why anyone would know that Jon killed her.
The way they made her torch this city just never made any sense. She always gave people an opportunity to bend the knee before burning them. It should have ended with her killing Cerci, then John fighting with the truth and deciding to leave with the wildlings to go north intentionally. Have it leave the story open for future, but the current war concluded. Dany could become crazy over the idea of him trying to come back, and take her throne later.
People seem to miss at the end when they all head beyond thw wall, flowers are poking through the snow, winter is done, the dream of spring was realized
I hope they can continue the show one day, the way it was supposed to be done
Yah, this amazing show deserved more than just 4 seasons.
I hope HBO make an animated series completely book-accurate one day.
sure but im not very hopeful they will get the same amazing actors,the stars really aligned with this show when it came to actors,tywin,tirion,cersei etc,an animated series is proly better
The fact Emilia managed to give the performance she did, even with the writing is commendable.
she was rly bad early seasons,she barely got decent over time,acting isnt her forte for sure
Why didn’t HBO just get new writers and showrunners?!
Contracts? Idk just a guess
$$$
Pretty sure it’s because George gave the rights to D&D and not HBO. That means that anything George or hbo wanted to do like extending the show, the last decision is with d and d. which they did want to because George himself said there was more than enough source material to end it the right way but the writers chose to rush it and cram everything in just 13 episodes. Had HBO had the rights they most likely would’ve gotten new showrunners that would stick to the material and focus on providing a satisfying right and end to the show with multiple seasons
It makes me so sad to think how obsessed I was with GoT as a young adult. I truly believed this would be a show I'd rewatch at least twice a year after it finishes... then Season 8 happened... I now despise the show entirely... especially knowing how it ends, so I never rewatched it once since.
GoT is a good series. Just remember it ends with season 7 or even six. Season 8 is so often contradicted by seasons 1-7 of proper GoT anyway that it is sane to argue it is not part of the same story.
Emilia Clarke is the greatest of all time.
I love the woman so much
Ha!
Would have never watched last xmas if I didn't fall in luv with her acting skillz in got!!! And btw last xmas is pretty good and will hit ur heart if ya have one 😊
@@jeffennis256 Try out _Me Before You_
my favourite actress of all time. so versatile and never gets the praise her talent warrants.
By the end of it I was so unenthused that I was hoping Bran would atleast stand up right before the final scene ended
Needed 4 more seasons to finish tv show
George had actually said that there ought to be 13 seasons
@@Yajna007 really doesn’t matter it needed more season also more on the White Walker
@@markpjf85 known as *_Others_* in the novels
HBO was delusional about D&D, thinking people would stop watching if they replaced them. So ultimately its HBO's fault, they could easily have replaced D&D after season 6 or even season 7, among all shows, I think GOT was most likely one of the few who could make us wait few years for a new season
I love danarys. There will always be a chance for her return in our hearts and minds. Her arc was amazing and when the catspaw dagger is not there to save them they have the survivors to blame. The seven kingdoms needed her as the dragon. Sensa is no leader, she might think she is but she would never truly win a battle as the commander of an actual army would need. Danarys got all her training along the way and outlived many ordeals
When GRRM said 5 would survive til the end I truly believed the only Targaryen left would be one not the least of the 4 starks left. Yes Jon was a Targaryen not a stark but truth is he is a stark not really a Targaryen. Sansa should not of survived. Actually it would of been nice when she got so hateful and rude with Daenerys that Drogon would of showed some teeth and growled very loud and show her who she was.
Seeing pictures of Dany next to Dragons without having any idea what Game of Thrones was or what was going on was what got me into watching it all those years ago LOL Dany had this charisma & magic to her presence it was so surreal
Sansa literally won the battle of the bastards for Jon, wdym??? 😂😂😂
I agree about sansa. She didn't earn it. We didn't get to see her become the mini little finger/ cersei she should have become. There was no plotting on her end. Just telling us how smart she is without actually showing it.
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He's a Targaryen whether you like it or not. It's in his blood. There are many parallels between Jon scenes and daemon in the new show. That fire within him that comes out in battle is his father's blood. His parents were married therefore he's not a bastard.
Hopefully, Emilia can still come back in the Snow series in some form... Apart from that, Brandon becoming king was the most creepy thing ever, like when he said to John "Oh you were right where you were supposed to be" while John was being exiled, it screamed: something's wrong!
He gives me Palpatine vibes.
The way ALL was happening just like he predicted 😨
Nahhh the creepiest line was when he said "Why do you think I came all this way?" When asked if he would accept the crown even tho previously he said he couldn't be lord of anything as the 3 eyed raven 😮
@@alexandregrand-pierre1981 yeah that too!
Snow series 2024/25/26...?🤔 (And main casting role..?) Any idea
@@alexandregrand-pierre1981 exactly! That situation where they made Bran King even though he said he couldnt be Lord of anything because he was the three eyed Raven pissed me off the most about the last season.
It felt like they were in such a rush to end it that they quit caring about the story. They stopped short of the finish line and just quit.
Her face cant lie. I love her so much. Such a lovable person
I remember when she said she walked around aimlessly for about an hour after reading the script should have warned people how bad it got.
She will forever be my queen 😢💔
This show had the World by the balls. It wasn't one of the worst endings of all time, it WAS the worst ending of all time.
If you want a 'good' ending try "The Shield" and "Justified." Both ended very well.
Fans started to notice the drop in quality in some season 4 moments, then it started to go down rapidly season 5 onward. What a coincidence, the show stopped being good when D&D had no more book material to lean on. It was always GRRM's writing that carried it.
Her slip into madness was rushed it happened in like 2 episodes. It should have taken at least a season.
If it wasn’t so rushed Snow would’ve been applauded for it.
For me its not how Danaerys' story ends that's the problem, it's how they get there. Her heel turn could've been phenomenal if handled correctly. There was always the foreshadowing of the mad king and to have her serve as the main protagonist to go to the villain in the end couldve been the ultimate character arc. The idea of her arriving at this promised land, only to find that the people treat her as an unwanted outsider, that they dont appreciate her good intentions. To watch everyone she cares about slowly be taken away or turn their backs and betray her. To feel alone. To think of all she sacrificed to fulfill her destiny in westeros. To have the power she is slowly amassing go to her head. Maybe in the end as she's finally at breaking point, the people of kings landing side with cersei and stand against her in spite of the fact she looks to liberate them. Then finally she snaps, if you all want to die with your queen, so be it. I think the way GRM envisioned it, probably would've been amazing.
GRRM doesn't intend for her to end up there, her arc leads north to a heroic self sacrifice to free the enslaved wights (not by being murdered as part of a disgusting blood magic ritual either btw).
The true ending was the final episode of 6th season. Daeneys sailing to westeros.
It was just so heartbreaking...period!
Saying she defended the show is funny when you think about the clip of her saying “best season ever”
30 minutes could have saved GOT. Fans wanted to see Jon fought the knight king which could have been a couple of minutes. Fans wanted to see Cersei suffer with a horrible death and fans didn’t want to see Jon kills the mother of dragon🤦♂️
YES 💯
Thirty mins... lol. Not even close. Also, just literally changing those three things without improving the entire story structure and writing quality of the final two seasons would maybe bring it up from absolutely awful, to really bad.
Yes totally agree, and Jon take his rightful place as King!
That would help, but Matthias333 is closer to the truth.
This is exactly why this show is different and brilliant. It depicts the cruel reality and not the desires of the heart like the most tv lemonades
I will never understand why HBO decided to end it when literally everyone besides Dan and Dave wanted to do more
The fact that folks who haven’t even read the books think she’s gonna go mad is irritating. Cersei is definitely gonna do some mad queen stuff since she literally burns people with wildfire to the point where Jamie saw a bit of aerys in her. She even gives innocent girls to Qyburn for him to experiment on as well as killing a child when she was young due to jealousy. George obviously loves dany as a character and even goes to show how misunderstood she is to people as well as questioning herself there’s no indication of her being happy with death and killing people when she doesn’t like it and isn’t bloodthirsty. But in the show d&d went out of their way to say that danys acts disturbed them but they’ll justify Sansa and Arya but not dany because it was foreshadowed since she let viserys die that she would be a mad queen. I mean the dialogue of Sansa Arya and Tyrion talking about dany is very telling since that’s how they view Daenerys as a character and letting the audience know that they were wrong to cheer for her but it’s ok for Arya to cook someone and feed it to them and slaughter and entire house 😒 they just had favorites and the ones they didn’t like they got lazy and ruined their arcs and story
Exactly I mean I’m not even a fan anymore of this universe but after reading the books I know Dany anit gonna go mad something about all this in S8 just screams to me undertones of sexism and they didnt want Dany to do better than her ancestors. But Ceresi already going mad.
Holy crap, I forgot about that throwaway thought on Aerys and Cersei. George doesn't do throwaways.😂
I have been totally convinced that Jamie and Cersei are the mad King's children and Tyrion is Tywin's only trueborn child. I saw this theory in a video and I can't let it go 😂😂😂
why else would Jamie go back to Cersei after finally getting with Brianne? He worked so hard to distance himself from Cersei, he wouldn't throw it all away. The man was a swordsman and even losing his dominant hand didn't stop him from progressing instead of regressing. I honestly believe he discovers that their father wasn't Tywin somehow, but George didn't tell D&D any of that, just that he died in King's Landing with his sister. So D&D played a shitty game of "Can You?" without the relevant information. And they just weren't creative enough to consider alternative motives.😂
No point in going anywhere for news, just wait for a vid to drop from you.
Let's be honest, if she didn't die, than she we should have gotten away with a LOT of murder.
And what do mean the "devisive" final season? There was no decisiveness about it, everyone hated it.
Sure, a lot of murder but that path would have given us more seasons who houses to betray one another, understand if Jon is the promised prince, created a new night king/queen, so much more. Instead, it ended with her death, Bran as king, and every house gathered around singing kumbaya
@@sudukohustler that's only if it had continued. It could have just ended with her on the iron throne looking smug, and ended at the exact same time.
We all knew she got pissed of about the final season, just like anybody else. She was polite back then, but it was obvious they butchered her character
As many have already said, I don't think its where we ended up that most people take issue with. The issue is the route we took to get there and how the destination doesn't feel "earned" I guess? Basically, this is what happens when you rush things. It also doesn't help that we likely will never get the actual book ending either, with all the build up, as I'm beginning to think that George isn't going to finish his series, but time will tell. I haven't completely lost hope on that one just yet.
There definitely should have been more episodes in season 8, why they chose to do so few is beyond my (most other fans) competition. They took the cheap & easy way out.
And the fact they took an extra year to film the final season. Once I found out it was only 6 episodes, I thought they would make them like weekly 2 hour movies with all that time they made us wait 😤
Jon Snow getting away with murder was my least complaint in the end. Everybody murdered someone in GoT, even Sam murdered a white walker. Yes, these white walkers were mass murderers themselves, but so was Dany at the end of GoT. Tyrion murdered his father and ex lover and got away as well. So this seems to be the norm in Westeros. What I disliked was the turn of character of Dany. From one of the very few people who actually help others to crazy mass murderer in just 5 episodes. This puts people who help others into a bad light, while the selfish killers are the heroes. I do not like this kind of message.
Varys didn’t murder anyone
No, those white walkers ar no murderers, they killed people and then they reserect them...
@@peterversiononeVarys turned the Mad King against Rhaegar, to spread chaos and install a Blackfyre in the throne. Read the books and you'll see he's just as bad as LF
@@peterversionone Well he killed the warlock who he had in a crate who used him in a ritual as a boy but that was off screen.
I’ve still never watched the final episode. Never will. Can’t believe how badly they crash landed the greatest series of all time. Dan & Dave should never work in Hollywood ever again.
Badass
10 seasons 10 episodes each. That is what this show should've been. That is what this story needed. I got the sense in season 6 that David and Dan were burnt out from having to deal with this behemoth they had created. GRRM didn't help with not focusing on finishing the story and just stalling the whole time. There is a lot of blame to go around.
Agreed. However if D and D are going to write their own story, which it is clear they increasingly did, they still have an obligation to keep it logical and consistent with itself. They failed at that very badly.
Honestly, the main issue I had with that is that there was no trial. Yes, there was a dragon to deal with, but somehow that was irrelevant with either choice. No trial for Little Finger either. I don't care if you are as guilty as sin, no fair trial equals tyranny. IMO it's a bunch of bad guys trying to act good.
Little Finger did have a trial what do you mean? Jon did too.
It's not really possible to have a trial. She was the Queen, had an army and a dragon. But she was mad so murdering her was definitely the thing to do morally speaking.
What's funny though is that Emilia doesn't like the end because her character was murdered ? That's kind of hilarious since there was a lot of other reason to criticize the ending. Moreover, her character being murdered was actually a good ending and probably the ending of Martin.
Man, such a ridiculous way to end GoT. HotD has reinvigorated many fans, even with its occasional blunders, but honestly.... at least it's got a solid leg to stand on, and has done rather well overall.
Either way, this is rough to hear. Sad it ended the way it did but, its not the only show/franchise that's absolutely flopped on its ending.
HOTD is horrid to he time jumps are annoying, the actors are mid at best, the killed all the blk folks nearly, no one’s likable I mean get the Starks in or something, CGI on the dragons is cringe at best, the dragons have no personality, I mean if this is the best GRRM was gonna give us with his finished works let’s just ease up on D&D. But your entitled to your opinion I guess.
Given that I invested so much of my time watching this show, and how it ended, I can speak for myself that it was one of the worst show-endings of all time.
That's so sad. Actors were interested in making more seasons but yet D&D ended it on season 8. I just dont understand why HBO hasnt replaced them
HBO should've tried to. That said they had a contract so it would've been hard to do.
I WANT A NEW SEASON NOW!!!
I think it wasn’t her finally realizing, you can see from her interviews she was being diplomatic. She’s a much more established actor now to be able to speak her mind more to the press about it, particularly now that HoTD is out.
"Although the actress voiced her strong support immediately after the release of the most hyped season"
Emilia reeking of sarcasm: BEST SEASON EVER%%%%
This is refreshing to hear that the actors felt the same way. The burning of King's Landing at the end was totally idiotic, what a way to ruin a great series.
It doesn't have to end for Daenerys Targaryen. Aegon Targaryen (John Snow) was also stabbed in the heart. He was brought back by Melisandreh a few days later. She wasn't the only priestess of the Lord of Light. Drogon took Daenerys to Essos, to the other priests who might have brought Daenerys back. That would be something for season 9...
When she sacked Kings landing she broke my heart but God I miss this show
3:20 He said while showing a crowd of people who are choosing to do exactly that.
Yup.
They should have done 10 episodes over 10-12 seasons and included Lady Stoneheart
They can made easly few more seasons with longer more episodes
The intro narrated by Littlefinger sent chills down my spine. It had been such an amazing show back then.
To be honest, Dave and DB were spoilt for the first few seasons because the majority of their writing work had already been done for them. They had the books to work from. with all the nuances of GRRM's writing there before them. The issues began when they over ran the books... and this is where the differences between GRRM's work, practised and polished, stood out in stark contrast. Then, realising what an enormous task they'd taken on, they first panicked, and then became bored, with what they were doing. Since they knew they simply couldn't just drop the show, they chose the other option, and tried to rush the end through.
I guess the moral of this is pretty simple; don't over-run your source material. Pick a series of books that has either been completed, or is waiting for the final one to be published. And if you do chose to turn an unfinished series of novels into a show, make sure not to over run the current one in the sequence. Dave and DB had a lot of good material to work with, and story lines they could have used to extend the show's life, and not over run. Let's hope they've learned the lesson well, or else, not given something so prestigious to work with!
Except they didn't. They ignored pretty much all of books 4 and 5.
She suffered not one but two brain aneurysms while doing the show but continued on working regardless of almost dying. TWICE.
Despite Kit Harrington being allowed to have a body double during his nude scene, she was refused a body double when having to do multiple full-fledged nude scenes.
She was often left on set naked, without anything to cover herself with between takes. It got so bad that Jason Momoa had to cause a scene just so they would give her a robe.
She was a game of thrones. Daenerys Targaryen *is* the most popular character in Asoiaf for a reason like it or not; it doesn’t matter; it’s just a fact.
She worked on thrones for years; her character was the beacon of light, and it ended with the snap of a finger. All her work was for nothing; they ruined her character. i would be angry too.
Yup. And how many character did they break or damage as they did the version of season 8 that aired. At least the earlier version (where the plan was for King's Landing to be wrecked by wildfire) had a bit more logic. What we got was shock value and multi-level stupidity.
Dany should have gotten the thrown but d and d absolutely destroyed her character when she killed 100s of thousands of innocents in kings landing for no reason instead of just killing cersi.. so in that sense what she did was way worse than what Jon snow did.. man d and d ruined one of the greatest of it the greatest show of all time
The worst thing those two self-proclaimed "writers" did was completely disrespect the audience. It's pretty obvious that they lost any respect for the story, the characters, the cast, crew and the audience by about the middle of season 6. Almost exactly the same thing happened with the "Vikings" series.
I do hope that George R.R. Martin's The Winds of Winter will not be too influenced by the show and that he'll stay true to whatever vision he had planned for the books' ending regardless of how fans responded to the series' conclusion.
Specifically, even if certain events that divided fans in the series also happen in Winds of Winter, I personally wouldn't want him to change it based on that. For better or worse, the books should end as they began: As the story he wanted to tell.
He’s never finishing the book. Let it go.
I don’t understand why HBO allowed D&D to destroy GOT. If they wanted it to end so badly, they should have just quit their jobs as writers and left it to writers who were passionate about actually doing quality writing. It’s crazy the level of power D&D were given to destroy what is arguably the best show ever (or should have been.)
Stop acting amazed HBO has always had a track record of ruining shows. Sopranos, Rome, West World etc I can keep going with what they have ruined.
I'de rather watch RUclips than any shite HBO produces
She murdered the whole town....um... Maybe azor ahai play made more sense than the way it played out. I was so excited when they did the episode where the Jenny Oldstones song came up as it looked like it would be a great season, then it was what the heck the rest of the season.....
I don't think it makes sense to say Emelia only recently came to the realization that the show didn't end the way it should have. She was under contract. That contract continues after the show is over, because they get things like residuals. What they say publicly about the show is controlled by the terms of those contracts.
I don’t really necessarily mind that Daenerys went “mad.” I’m more about how we got there. Rewatching the show…she’s always been somewhat ruthless but season 7 & 8 just made it seem like it came out of nowhere. I’m really hoping for the books to do it better.
Lets first hope the books become a reality.
They did dany dirty but what they did to the night king, having her randomly shanked by a little girl in the most unbelievable way ever, was the true death of this show
I will never get tired of saying it: HBO fucked up big time with how they handled the show after season 5 and beyond...
I wish there was enough collective will to punish HBO by refusing to watch their shows.
I dont remember much of s7 or s8 but episodes but seasons 1-4 will always be with me
I am furious that Jon didn’t get the Night King!
Exactly all that build up for Arya to do it but it made no sense it was just fan service. Kit was even mad about that
F jon
Emilia was brillant as Dany. i miss all the actors. great ensemble
I don't think GoT had a divisive ending. I think almost everyone is united in the belief that the ending sucked.
Never watched a series with so many seasons that could of easily continued and would have still been good and had alot of options
Of course I agree that it was a huge disappointment in how they wrote Dani’s end. But Jon Snow killing her isn’t one of them. She had just committed mass murder to a city that had surrendered. Even afterward she had the unsullied execute the prisoners. But even then Jon Snow still gave her a chance. What pushed him over the edge was the fact that she was going do it everywhere for anyone who didn’t bow down to her. He killed her to stop more horrific atrocities.
It’s just sad they killed Varys who saw this and tried to warn Jon.
That’s the part I always hated, and how Tyrion suddenly lost all his common sense, wisdom and ability to read through peoples bs…to becoming like some sheepless, mindless follower under Dany.
But D&D turned her into that…Dany wasn’t that at all
Daenerys said just ONE season before she didnt wanna be the Queen of Ashes so Im pretty sure she was disappointed that they wrote her into doing that seemingly out of nowhere. So Jon killing her was STILL some bullshit.
This.
She’s just burned down an entire city, with hundreds of innocent people inside. But that’s ok? Sorry Emilia, I know you’re attached to Dany but she doesn’t get to walk away from that scot free.
Also what a lot of people don’t mention is that while she was giving her big speech in Dothraki about conquering the world, after the burning of King’s Landing … Jon doesn’t understand what she’s saying until she mentions Winterfell … and he flinches, beginning to realise that she isn’t going to stop, that she’s planning to conquer the North as well … and what that means for the Starks, who he knows are not going to bow to her. So she’s threatening his family.
He tried to get her to stop, but she proved she had no intention of doing so. He had no choice. He could have had her arrested, but in the end she had to be stopped.
@@missym877yeah she was. She’d been killing people since the beginning, we just didn’t mind because a lot of them were bad people. She didn’t suddenly turn from this gentle pacifist into a mad Queen, she’d been doing it all along.
Bring her back for a solo spin-off show, we'd all watch it
There are some things I liked in season 8, but many more I didn't. What we can all agree on is that ending this show like it did and the rushness or everything with resulted in characters developments going down the drain, was a cultural crime. D&D committed a cultural crime. It's not about giving the fans what they want, but having compelling writing to juatify the actions. No one wanted the Red Wedding to happen or Ned Stark to die, but those events made sense because the writing made them make sense. And the public accepted those events even though they were shokingkly brutal things to see. Season 8 writing looks like it was done by a toddler.
S8 was the worst of Quinn Martin. Up to S8 the only unnecessary thing was burning Shireen alive. I'm all for brutal surprises, but not that.
I disagree , season 8 writing looks like it was done by a MALEVOLENT toddler.
Hey eyebrows are freaking adorable. Yet she doesn't use her very expressive brow in a lot of her acting roles. She's a great actress and underrated
I usually love to rewatch my favorite television series, but I have never sat down to rewatch GOT because I can't bear to be disappointed and angry again. The final couple of seasons were so unsatisfying, and for what, exactly? What have "D & D" done since that can justify ending GOT so early? I would gladly have spent another 2-3 with it, watching it unfold at a digestible pace.
The only GOT characters more hated than Joffrey are the two Ds