especially the video got it all wrong, the "retarded" side would be alliance i know i played alliance for years, we rarely win BG's because we got retards/noobs or dumbasses
Matthew Osterman The difference is horde have longer ques so when they do get bad games it feels a lot worse for them. Alliance give horde so many free wins because they can get into a new game easily.
Adrian Wilson yeah, they’re actually right. Do to most servers leaning towards a horde imbalance, you get faster BG queues as alliance. More queues = more games either won or lost = less effort in actually caring what happens
My Orc hunter lived in WSG. Vanilla WoW. 50-59 was the best. Our pug was seemed like a premade because it was usually same people that played. We were really good. We got a lot of practice because Hellscream EU was a server with tons of Alliance and just a few Horde. There was more human paladins then all Horde. Our ques for BGs were like ~1 minute. Hunter was an useful class. Back then hunters could track humanoids, animals etc. Good for pinging efc. Exalted with WSG faction at 54. Epic mount at 58, good times.
Something tells me this video was inspired by a real match cause of the screenshot at the end. The part that killed me was the bot jumping to stop the afk timer.
I made Lt Commander in vanilla as a holy/disc priest. I was in the best pvp guild on alliance side, Bloodhoof. Often me and the GM mage would run out and he'd grab the berserker buff and go to town on the enemy. I'd support him and keep him up as much as possible. Rest of the team was assaulting flag. If/when we'd die, we were on defense with the flag carrier when he came back, other team would return the flag. Good times.
I had so much fun as druid in WSG, I would won some game alone. Being oblivious to the fact that druid were OP made it even more fun, I thought I was good!
I remember my time in pvp when wow first came out… It was something like a few month after release and the amount of tricked up/twink gnome rogues that destroyed you was insane. At least one each match that would dominate with its insane gear.
Protection pallies in Legion, and in Season 1 of BfA, were dang-near invulnerable, because our passive healing was through the roof. Then came the nerf bat in Season 2. I so miss having 6-8 players beating on me and I still manage to win the node.
Yeah. Most of the time I get into a BG and I see the Alliance acting as a team. They even bring healers! Horde, on the other hand, have 10 or 15 individuals all doing their own thing and bitching that the one poor sorry SOB healer who made the mistake of joining can't keep them alive because he's getting trained... and not in the fun way either.
impressed you're still making these videos, but I'm glad you are, they are great. and man do i recognize this. i may not have played WSG in classic, but this is very similar to my experiences in low-level BG around the time of Burning Crusade, lol
I want to play on your server pool. EU Alliance sucks. 50% of the time we're not even a full group because some jerks keep joining just to leave again.
all good alliance players play premades instead of pugs. So basically you´ve only got the trash left in ally pugs these days. Friend of mine playing horde on EU servers says like 50% of all ally teams are premades and even more just after reset. It´s sad but it´s the truth. Hordes are too many so queueing as a full grp sure takes time. ally has short queues and such extrems between good n bad players.
@@oJackOfSpades queue times are much worse for premades and gathering people can be time consuming too, it's sad that you have to do premades to have a winning chance really. i have beaten countless ally premades with pugs lol.
@@Dr.WhetFarts oh don´t get me wrong, alliance pugs occasionally beat the hell out of horde premades too. My point is, there´s no point for the alliance to do pugs anymore. You log in, you hopefully prove your worth ,you get invited to a premade and then you just join them anytime you´re online as long as they ahve spots. Or you´ll create your own with the fillers from the core team. I feel like Horde mostly consists of solo rankers as opposed to the Alliance. when doing pug vs pug I´d say alliance and horde win about 50/50 depending on day (good horde players seem to join a few days after reset since the alliance are practically dominating every single bg from wednesday to friday).
As alliance, I remember WSG very differently. Mainly sitting at the gy refusing to rez and just wishing they would cap the last flag ffs so I can leave.
Yeah this is horde. We never care the battle is win or lose. Alliance is dead or not is the only thing we care about. and I am always proud of it! For the Horde!
This wsg reminded one game I had in the old TBC. The our FC ran like lightning speed. Maybe even faster than Epic Flying mount. He got the Flag and told everybody 9/10 go after the EFC. since no one can see him or touch him. we couldn't lose. we were 3-0 real quick. I think he was a GM after all. the speed he ran for each flag it was just like disappear insight in one sec.
@@user85937 Yeah, the bot thing occurred to me as I was posting, but I figured the mage still counts, so I says to myself, "Self," I says, "You go ahead and you post that anyways. So I did. And that's my heroic tale. Apologies for starting that last sentence with a conjunction.
Oce alliance is a mess and the population is very unbalanced overall. So most people just join the bg and afk. If you want to do bg you better find a premade or at least join with a group
as a druid of the alliance i can confirm this: there used to be a dwarf paladin able to keep the players for himself whenever I got out of the enemy base and the BG would end very fast
@Adrian Wilson Yea, exactly! Now tell that the alliance rogue that tries to kill an orc. And not just the racials are better, shaman is also a serious threat in PvP compared to paladin. And let's be honest here. Horde is also a much more desired race in case of fantasy for pvp player. I certainly just wanted an ud rogue because I felt less bad ambushing people in the open. That was all. Being horde made me more likely to attack other player than playing alliance
What kind of twisted world is that? Alliance wins bgs with more active player? Thats basically the complaint I would get from every single alliance player that tried to get into pvp. Just watch payo play his hunter and constantly shit on alliance for losing bgs, because they are afk everywhere.
@@Blubbii88 LOL, I am complaining about the bgs in China. I was considering to play PVP in NA WOW, seems I have to consider it twice. Thank you for the info.
When I first started as a warrior in classic I never intended to do pvp but I tried it once and I feel guilty because i was exactly like this horde warriors and just ran in for kills. It worked pretty good but it not exactly fits the team play aspect. But seriously I didn't know wtf was going on. For me it was just another zone and I just knew were the flag might possibly be.
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That jump to not get caught in afk...
1:02
The bot jumping had me dead.
Funny thing is they don't even need to jump, just moving the mouse one pixel would do it.
He just needs to add that one guy on your team that turns up with 10 minutes of Rez sickness
Just one??
I’ve ran the flag multiple times with rez sickness hahaha, gues the debuff means nothing if you don’t get touched
@@balance667 badazz
That sham at start seem reduced =D
@@dzvanas mentally
The sound at the end made me think I won a battleground, it's been hard engraved into my mind
Well it made me think I lost a bg, so I understand
It still trips me up to this day. I play mostly alliance now but I was horde up until mists.
especially the video got it all wrong, the "retarded" side would be alliance i know i played alliance for years, we rarely win BG's because we got retards/noobs or dumbasses
@@kyotheman69 huh, my experience with horde has been the same since WoD. Horde lose majority of BGs.
@@kyotheman69 you get matched based on your skill level. Git gud.
paladin is dead
everything is fine
Prot paladin
LADIES AND GENTLEMEN, WE GOT 'IM.
Lol, as someone who plays alliance it's good to know the Horde are dealing with as much of this as we are.
In the end, both faction arnt so different
Ally have the pug advantage usually
Matthew Osterman
The difference is horde have longer ques so when they do get bad games it feels a lot worse for them. Alliance give horde so many free wins because they can get into a new game easily.
Adrian Wilson he is right bud, I got both paladin and shaman and horde digs deeper to win due to longer ques, allies dont care, hard game ?? Neeext...
Adrian Wilson yeah, they’re actually right. Do to most servers leaning towards a horde imbalance, you get faster BG queues as alliance. More queues = more games either won or lost = less effort in actually caring what happens
My Orc hunter lived in WSG. Vanilla WoW. 50-59 was the best. Our pug was seemed like a premade because it was usually same people that played. We were really good. We got a lot of practice because Hellscream EU was a server with tons of Alliance and just a few Horde. There was more human paladins then all Horde. Our ques for BGs were like ~1 minute. Hunter was an useful class. Back then hunters could track humanoids, animals etc. Good for pinging efc. Exalted with WSG faction at 54. Epic mount at 58, good times.
Laughed for the whole duration of the video, amazing work man !
Thanks! glad you like it!
Same xD
Something tells me this video was inspired by a real match cause of the screenshot at the end. The part that killed me was the bot jumping to stop the afk timer.
No matter what you do just keep fighting in the middle
and never go for the flag carrier also never go for the heals just continue to attack the tank.
The bots made this whole thing even greater.
It was Horde that always queued up full in a few seconds. Alliance always had, like, 3 free spots.
and it still is
Shows how unbalanced it is
I play a paladin and I gotta say even in holy spec that is what happens every game, 10/10 would lay on hands again
I rolled a pally in classic and this is spot on haha
Especially in holy
After the word "paladin" - all other words are not needed...
Cheapass
Every single time WowItsHard nails it perfectly. Great video.
0:54 Nostalgia...
Yep, I had some waaaaaaaars in that tunnel.
I play in the BFA. But watching the video I wanted to laugh and cry at one time. Warsong... It is never changed...
war, war never change.
This video is almost 100% accurate (Ally dont have priests ever as correctly shown in vid, but all paladins are Ret).
There were priests. Shadow priests.
I made Lt Commander in vanilla as a holy/disc priest. I was in the best pvp guild on alliance side, Bloodhoof. Often me and the GM mage would run out and he'd grab the berserker buff and go to town on the enemy. I'd support him and keep him up as much as possible. Rest of the team was assaulting flag.
If/when we'd die, we were on defense with the flag carrier when he came back, other team would return the flag. Good times.
Ive never ever felt so touched from a WSG video in my 15 years Playin WoW and being a hardcore PVPer horde... this is my team.. idd.. and it hurts
As a person who has played a paladin since 2004 I can assure you this is 100% accurate.
I had so much fun as druid in WSG, I would won some game alone. Being oblivious to the fact that druid were OP made it even more fun, I thought I was good!
Yep, that's how I remember Warsong Gulch too :D
I never knew what it was about being a paladin in WSG. Soon as the horde saw me it was benny hill chase time.
They get PTSD from all the bubble hearthing people
There must be priest who entered just to ask for water, then insta leaves
Good trick
It has been too long since I've actually laughed consistently at a YT channel, not just for Classic but just in general
The animations on these are so good.
This is your best one yet!
I was that mage... I feel like this video resurfaced my Warsong Gulch PTSD
I remember my time in pvp when wow first came out…
It was something like a few month after release and the amount of tricked up/twink gnome rogues that destroyed you was insane. At least one each match that would dominate with its insane gear.
They still got owned by undead rogues.
you're a genius of "silent" comedy. absolutely talented!
Your Videos are just the best ! YOu bring so many people to laugh, never stop ! ♥
I was usually the flag runner.. prot warriors were obscenely hard to kill in lich king, I miss that someday's.
Protection pallies in Legion, and in Season 1 of BfA, were dang-near invulnerable, because our passive healing was through the roof. Then came the nerf bat in Season 2. I so miss having 6-8 players beating on me and I still manage to win the node.
Resto druid in lich king was practicaly unkillable.
Hands down best wow content i’ve seen!
1:20 "SMAAAAAAAAASH" haha
This is my favorite video of yours yet! Great job.
missed your videos. doing gods work. i will never forget your rmp vs tsg arena prep video x)
I live for these videos!
I laughed so hard. Being in Horde and its usually run for a kill, who cares about a flag! xDD
Yeah. Most of the time I get into a BG and I see the Alliance acting as a team. They even bring healers! Horde, on the other hand, have 10 or 15 individuals all doing their own thing and bitching that the one poor sorry SOB healer who made the mistake of joining can't keep them alive because he's getting trained... and not in the fun way either.
Accurate representation of alliance being so confused, they spawn in the wrong flagroom
I've never seen horde rush off to the berserker hut. My battlegroup is possibly extra special.
That's pretty much how I remember it...
Your videos are exactly on the point always!
Brings back good old memories from vanilla. As alliance we would either have a druid run or a rogue that could prep and sprint.
Pet peeve alert: Unfortunately, Travel Form cannot be used in the tunnel. Other than that, LMFAO great video.
The accuracy of this causes so much pain, 15 years running and no matter the expansion, this is my team easily 50% of the time.
Its been 15 years and we all still stay in the middle and chase.
impressed you're still making these videos, but I'm glad you are, they are great. and man do i recognize this. i may not have played WSG in classic, but this is very similar to my experiences in low-level BG around the time of Burning Crusade, lol
U are the best!!!!Love ur videos
Gott make the initial clash a blender noise with the swords rotating in circles.
I woulda crit my pants
Awesome video man. To be honest, they are all hilarious and more importantly... they are all spot on.
These are absolute gold, well done mate
I feel like it's so true the allince always seemsto have better players. Lava
I want to play on your server pool. EU Alliance sucks. 50% of the time we're not even a full group because some jerks keep joining just to leave again.
Funny how horde turned into the care bear faction with Classic.
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Swap factions and this video would be more accurate from my perspective. Still funny as heck, I chuckled.
all good alliance players play premades instead of pugs. So basically you´ve only got the trash left in ally pugs these days. Friend of mine playing horde on EU servers says like 50% of all ally teams are premades and even more just after reset. It´s sad but it´s the truth. Hordes are too many so queueing as a full grp sure takes time. ally has short queues and such extrems between good n bad players.
@@oJackOfSpades queue times are much worse for premades and gathering people can be time consuming too, it's sad that you have to do premades to have a winning chance really. i have beaten countless ally premades with pugs lol.
@@Dr.WhetFarts oh don´t get me wrong, alliance pugs occasionally beat the hell out of horde premades too.
My point is, there´s no point for the alliance to do pugs anymore. You log in, you hopefully prove your worth ,you get invited to a premade and then you just join them anytime you´re online as long as they ahve spots. Or you´ll create your own with the fillers from the core team.
I feel like Horde mostly consists of solo rankers as opposed to the Alliance. when doing pug vs pug I´d say alliance and horde win about 50/50 depending on day (good horde players seem to join a few days after reset since the alliance are practically dominating every single bg from wednesday to friday).
your vids are brilliant lad
As alliance, I remember WSG very differently. Mainly sitting at the gy refusing to rez and just wishing they would cap the last flag ffs so I can leave.
So Real, and I shed tears
This is perfect. I love it.
I remember Warsong Gulch more for when everyone staying middle....or at the enemy cemetery.
ahh yes the good old cemetery camping
The drood is so on point. I constantly ninja flag as drood, all the time.
Absolutely right, I can't count the number of times I've gotten mad at that kind of idiot.
Yeah i feel ya, horde is full or rtards
The amount of horde warriors with full sets and a legendary annoys me so much
But its so satisfying to kill them as a mage
Dude the warriors with the helmets LOL!!!!
Adorable work! :D :D :D
The druid going 'wroooom' made me lose it
I still remember playing 2004 classic against a team of 9 POM+Pyro mages and 1 druid.
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Yeah this is horde. We never care the battle is win or lose. Alliance is dead or not is the only thing we care about. and I am always proud of it! For the Horde!
I like how most of the warriors are acting like Orks instead of Orcs
WAAAGH!
Freaking hilarious buddy. Keep it up!
This wsg reminded one game I had in the old TBC. The our FC ran like lightning speed. Maybe even faster than Epic Flying mount. He got the Flag and told everybody 9/10 go after the EFC. since no one can see him or touch him. we couldn't lose. we were 3-0 real quick. I think he was a GM after all. the speed he ran for each flag it was just like disappear insight in one sec.
WSG GANG!
Pretty accurate, but NOBODY would've stayed behind guarding the flag. Other than that, spot on.
The bots didn't guard the flag, they were just being afk.
@@user85937 Yeah, the bot thing occurred to me as I was posting, but I figured the mage still counts, so I says to myself, "Self," I says, "You go ahead and you post that anyways. So I did. And that's my heroic tale. Apologies for starting that last sentence with a conjunction.
Genius! Well executed indeed
Yep, every Warsong Gulch match I've ever played in a nutshell.
Holy shit, I fucking died at “your team”.
Favorite part: Travel form druid motor sound effect
As a Classic Gulch enthusiast... Bingo!
I feel personally attacked lol
Hilarious... seriously dude keep making these 😂😂😂
good as always ;)
I wish this was the case (playing alliance druid).
it's like 99% of all warsongs...
@@TheOneRealTom Come to OCE, where the Horde rule all
Oce alliance is a mess and the population is very unbalanced overall. So most people just join the bg and afk. If you want to do bg you better find a premade or at least join with a group
Oh man, that's just too accurate.
as a druid of the alliance i can confirm this: there used to be a dwarf paladin able to keep the players for himself whenever I got out of the enemy base and the BG would end very fast
Awesome!
The orc with hand of rag lmfao
Epic video as always
Quality. Sadly I see this in reverse for the alliance all the time. Good the horde have same issues
@Adrian Wilson Yea, exactly! Now tell that the alliance rogue that tries to kill an orc.
And not just the racials are better, shaman is also a serious threat in PvP compared to paladin.
And let's be honest here. Horde is also a much more desired race in case of fantasy for pvp player. I certainly just wanted an ud rogue because I felt less bad ambushing people in the open. That was all. Being horde made me more likely to attack other player than playing alliance
@@Blubbii88 You want balance? Play WOTLK. I love owning hordies on that expansion, they are so bad xd
To you, this was an entertaining video. To me, it was thursday...
It is so true... I feel really bad when I play battlefield as a horde. The alliance always win with more active players.
What kind of twisted world is that? Alliance wins bgs with more active player? Thats basically the complaint I would get from every single alliance player that tried to get into pvp. Just watch payo play his hunter and constantly shit on alliance for losing bgs, because they are afk everywhere.
@@Blubbii88 LOL, I am complaining about the bgs in China. I was considering to play PVP in NA WOW, seems I have to consider it twice. Thank you for the info.
I didnt play many BGs but when indid i ran in there with my PVE prot gear and grabbed flags on my warrior and ate mages for breakfast
When I first started as a warrior in classic I never intended to do pvp but I tried it once and I feel guilty because i was exactly like this horde warriors and just ran in for kills. It worked pretty good but it not exactly fits the team play aspect.
But seriously I didn't know wtf was going on. For me it was just another zone and I just knew were the flag might possibly be.
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Holy shit I died when that first horde warrior showed up xD
Good and funny videos 😁😁😁
Forgot the part where the Druid runs up the Alli side wall.. good times.
This really is true, druids are the Kings of warsong gulch
This is probably why I enjoy WSG more than AV as Alliance
As a brainlet shaman, I feel personally attacked. :D love the vids tho
usually my experience with alliance everyone smorks the nearest horde and objectives... what are objectives again?
so accurate, i can see you anymore
Hahaha amazing mon