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Never forget the Company that save the first Sonic the Hedgehog movie by redoing the CGI, shut down months after they finished and didn't get any pay from the success of the movie.
wait WHAT? i didn't know that! what a shame
Wait why????
@@nine9nine9 uh because they had to redo an ENTIRE movie WAAAY after any movie would even be attempting reshoots or corrections. the movie was basically complete and yet they went back and redid it all. thats an insane amount of money and crunch that had to be done. no studio recovers from that.
@@nine9nine9 like we are talking about redoing the CGI of a character that is on screen for 90% of the movie. talking about action shots, dialogue, etc.
I forgot about that, but they're making a third one aren't they? It's almost like making something people will like will make a lot more moneeeyyy..
If a big studio releases a game and claim its a complete experience, you can guarantee it won't be.
It's called “quadruple a" now.
This is exactly TERRARIA (minecraft better)
yeah when indie game says its going to be a work in progress it will still have infinitely more content than standard triple A game.
Oh it'll be an experience alright just not the positive one that they intended.
I just look if it's from a western game dev or eastern european game dev or not. If it is, I just hold the X button.
Forrest Gump used a ton of CGI. So much so that it won an award for it. The thing is that is was done so well that you can't really tell what was CGI and what wasn't.
Is this true? I didn’t know they even used it 😂 that’s crazy. Makes me love the movie even more.
@@oessh9611no, they really had Tom Hanks standing next to dead presidents and removed Lt. Dans’ legs then put them back on at the end of shooting
@@Dik_Kikmno they cut off his legs for the movie and filmed the ending first.
The whole feather sequence too @@Dik_Kikm
Most of the actors were actually allergic to chocolate so they had to cg the chocolates in the box
Hey! Long time viewer first time commenter.
I had to write something now that it is the first time you - as far as I know - you bring up this subject. I have been a vfx artist (not cgi, we don't use that word) for over 15y and have worked with marvels franschise, star wars, game of thrones and much more.
First of all you seem to know a bit about our industry already and thank you for the kind words, because yes you are right that the majority of the people in the industry are increadibly talented and most of us are working super hard. And yes you are right that we get treated like shit, it's more common then not to work 80h weeks, sometimes more. Often we don't even get compensation for that time.
When doing overtime month after month and year after year the quality simply goes down, there is no way we can keep up. It's hard do describe but when working more then 60h there is diminshing returns and you just can't be as logical and creative under such circumstances. And add to that the client (the studios/directors) come with crazy ideas last minute that totaly change everything that has been done and you have to start over when there is simply no time left and the quality will suffer hugely because of that. Especially Marvel are famously at this, so much that many studios refuses to work with Marvel anymore. Man there is so much more to say about this subject.. About how the studios are managing tent pole movies. You would never believe it.
Now add to that - not only are we in a bad spot because the studios can't plan properly - we are also getting shit on when we actually succeed in making good VFX. The only reason they can get away with saying they did not use any CGI (vfx) is because the quality is so high and photorealistic that people can actually believe it which is ironic because that is when we have succeded the most. Now I don't mind if a studio says they will not use any CGI, go ahead! I love that kind of stuff. Personally I think the best is when you mix vfx with practical. But don't say you not gonna be using CGI and then use a shit tone of CGI. That is just madness.
I would love you to review the original video that Charalanahzard viewed as well, aka The Movie Rabbit Hole. Because the lies are so blantant and ugly that it would mean a huge deal for tens of thounds of vfx people out there if someone with a big following could call out the big studios on their bullshit and bring attention to the issue.
Underrated comment. Hopefully noticed and the original video gets viewed
pretty informative comment and i know nothing about the movie industry.
Great informative post.
Off topic question would you people outside of US recommend learning VFX, since the movie industry is in USA. Also how do I learn VFX ?
@@simonurbanek2062 The main hubs doing vfx is Canada and England. LA still have some but are losing more and more work because of tax subsidy but that is a whole other topic. So yes you can make it outside US.
But at the moment I would not recommend going into the industry unless you are super passionate about it.
All streamers except Netflix are losing tons of money. Cinema has not and probably will not recover. Disney just announced 30% reduction in production in the coming years. So hard times coming. And we have AI knocking on the door which will disrupt the market sooner or later.
I'll stay as long as I can but already preparing to pivot to other jobs were I can transfer my skills decently well.
First time caller, full time baller
Believe it or not Christopher Nolan actually recreated the WW2 arms race for some of those shots.
IIRC the nuke in Oppenheimer was not CGI. I've read somewhere it's the original footage from the test from back then and some editing magic.
@@jpxyUA The Nuke was a gasoline explosion, filmed practicaly.
@@jpxyUAIf you went to see in IMAX before the movie starts they do a behind the scenes where it was shot in the exact same location where the Manhattan project took place.
@@alexandresilva3427 that might be it! I just know it's not CGI and I was blown away. Practical VX is always better.
the one time Nolan should've used VFX. that nuke was underwhelming ...
'company sets off 37 nukes in attempt to film movie. director quoted as saying "I really didn't like the feel of the scene at first, and it took some time to really find the best angle, so we had to do a few extra takes."'
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no way bbro@@LunarisSolutions
"Now I want to blow the hell out of everyone! What a rush! I get it, now." -Allegedly the Director
@@LunarisSolutions no he didnt you are view farming hoping people check
I was told this when I was studying as CG artist that your best work will probably not be seen or noticed if you are that good at PBR
A lot of professions work that way. Do a great job and you'll never hear anything about it after. Do a bad job and people will notice and complain.
Pretty much. As a Compositor, it is nigh impossible for the layman to ever figure out what I have done on the shots I've worked on. But the stuff I've done was important, otherwise the shot wouldn't make sense.
@nankam sounds like programming lol
@@nankam People who do their jobs well should be happy for people who do the same job badly existing. It puts their work into perspective and makes many people thankful for a job done well. But if people only experience a job being done well, they become complacent about it.
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I heard it described as CGi visual noise, when there's so much happening onscreen (and happening so fast) that your eyes don't know where to focus and so it becomes impossible to see anything aside from the actors and the practical parts of the set. Antman 3: Quantumania was probably one of the worst offenders in this regard.
Antman 3 was a mess
It's a way to mask both bad CGI as well as bad cinematography. Give the mind time to settle and you'd have to provide something to perceive and think about. That's hard. Granted. the former could be fixed by focussing the same resources on the actually relevant effects. The latter is harder...
@@robertmartinu8803 A lot of this CGI would work great as static pictures but with moving pictures, less if often more.
It’s every marvel movie
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1:22 Fun fact related to CGI in movies: In Terminator 3 the crane scene was so expensive that Arnold put up $1.4 million of his salary to help pay for it to be done right.
Source: IMDB
Obviously they still used CGI in some parts but that scene was awesome.
24:58 bruh, The Sims 2, a 2004 game already had the feature of npc's having actual memories of events that happened in the game, and those memories actually affect their personalities, A 2004 VIDEOGAME
its not ai though, its a very limited list of what could happen with checkmarks
@@arso4893 yeah it isn't the same thing at all. Generative AI in RPGs could be amazing if done properly, allowing you to interact and ask about the world, or a quest etc, and each npc would have it's own perspective based on it's dataset.
@@arso4893 aaah I see, you're right
One instance where there was PE and I'm so happy there was. Was in Dungeons & Dragons: Honor Among Thieves, obviously cgi was used for a ton of the film, cause duh, but the races in it that were unique, like dragonborn and arakrao and a few more were practical suits that people were in which was just so much fun to see!
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I think Chris Pine really did the derpy face. Oh man, if I could derp face like that I would be set for life.
Ohhhh Michelle Rodriguez is in that and she said in the ad for this video to buy Skull and Bones. To the shops I goooooooo.
thumbs up if you're still awake
And I got work in the morning 😂
👍 night shift 😢
Just woke up here
you guys get sleep?
Sleep is for the weak
The Hobbit movies for example woulda been better if they used wayy less CGI and had 2 movies at most more in line with the book (edit: one of the coolest and most expensive real explosions in a movie was the napalm strike in Apocalypse Now)
Yeah, they were trying to milk that franchise. Way too many extended slapstick 'comedy' sequences.
They took the 'Gimli as comedic relief' thing that Peter Jackson introduced and ran with it.
I remember reading the books after seeing the LOTR movies and thinking, "Gimli is not as much of a goofball as they made him out to be".
Nevertheless, the LOTR movies were solid (RotK won the best film Academy Award). The Hobbit trilogy was trash.
It’s what I loved about LotR and watching the appendices. How they made scenes with some CGI but also locations and sets, miniatures and their “bigatures”. It was a neat blending of CGI and practical effects that I think is amazing.
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The Hobbit movies were filmed in 48 fps (twice the framerate of normal movies), which could be why CGI stood out more.
The dumb plates and then the liquid gold looked so dumb
Asmon: “Literally setting off a Nuclear bomb -randomly- just to record it for a movie… the dedication, I’d go see that!”
US Govt: “You know, I’m something of a movie maker myself.”
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@@LunarisSolutions no he didnt you are view farming hoping people check
The person who claimed their movie had no CGI probably doesn't know how wide a brush that term covers, the claimant possibly believes CGI requires 3D modelling and completely overlooking compositing and various other computer run processes, all coming together under the umbrella of CGI.
Compositing isnt cgi, thats a very silly thing to say.
@@xenn4985 Fine, Visual Effects, happy?
Then they wouldn't be trying to hide the blue screen. Because they wouldn't know that would be included in the term. And so have no reason to hide it.
@@xenn4985 seach for a compositing program called nuke and watch a few videos about what it can do. It's 100% cgi. 'Computer generated imagery'
CGI and VFX are 2 very different things compositing is just VFX.
Jurassic Park still holds up 31 years later
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and they knew better than people now
I don't know if you've seen the videos they're commenting over in this video, but they do bring up Jurassic Park and it's brilliant use of CG. Even though it's one of the go to "CGI sucks, practical holds up forever!" movies it mixes practical and CG effects to make it convincing, just like some of the best looking movies now. Mad Max: Fury Road comes to mind.
@@DantesGrill That movie is bad.
They hired the people who did Amber’s court photos
Underrated roast
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to remove the crack snorting in court
As Corridor Digital often say, the best effects are a blend of digital and practical.
Also, VFX includes practical, so having names in the VFX crew doesn't necessarily mean it uses CGI - plus digital effects are also a wider spectrum than just CGI. Barbie did use CGI as proven by the blue screen reflection, but for example a colour filter is digital FX but not CGI, so it is very plausible that a movie like that would be made without CGI
great example is them reacting to Steppnewolf stepping on a stick in a mud puddle. Even VFX pros like themselves had a hard time figuring out how that was done
Props for the corridor digital reference. My favorite channel on RUclips…
Props for the corridor digital reference. My favorite channel on RUclips…
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8:00 The industrial "free range" chickens aren't actually in individual cages but they are one big indoor enclosure, that's what makes them "free range" (as opposed to actual free range chickens that are free to walk around outside).
Pretty sure you’re talking about “cage free”, as opposed to “free range”. 😉👍🏻
Pasture raised is the only truly humane chicken
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Lmao my mom has chickens on her land in a 20x20' enclosure. Are they not considered free range cause she doesn't let them run around freely?
@Magoooobly its not viable. Hawks and eagles would demolish pasture roaming birds my guy. As well as other predators. They're not enclosed to keep them cooped up. Theyre enclosed to protect them.
I remember watching the extra stuff that came with the Two Towers extended edition, and they talked about how some software made it possible to make the big armies with CGI, something about it randomly combining different armor and weapon elements and markings to make sure that they looked different enough from each-other, rather than repeating a pattern. I think it was mentioned in connection with the Helm's Deep siege scenes specifically. But yes, the ones for close-ups were all just "people in custome and makeup".
It's all about the misconception of 'CGI = bad'
People don't realize the fact that what they actually don't like is a crappy CGI. They actually love good CGI, or CGI that is done right.
And now we have people who, rather than trying to explain this to the public, just choose to be lazy and say 'Oh, yeah. CGI bad. Hey look, we don't do CGI.'
people just don't want cgi over stunts. stunts will always be 100x more captivating
@@jayes5066 Sure that is why the 99% CGI made Marvel movies is the highest grossing franchise of all fucking time with some $30 BILLION 🤦♂
People don't give a fuck if it is CGI or only practical or what most times happen a combination of both. What matters is if the movie is good.
@@jayes5066lol People thought Mad Max used no CGI for their stunts and effects
They did
Mad Max was hugely cgi
Toy story is awesome
Nah, the cgi needs to be good. Otherwise your film is gonna get memed to hell and back when you make a Quantumania @logirex
She was not saying the Barbie scenes were bad because they used cgi. She said it's bad that they used cgi but said they didn't, which takes credit away from the fx teams.
Yes, they were flying the planes. The guy was explaining that the planes shown in the movie were cgi models substituted for the actual planes that were flown. I.E. I'm floating up in an air balloon but use cgi to make it look like a spaceship.
This situation would be like if Penn told you he's a wizard when he's using tricks that others had set up for him.
22:22 "It simply is" - Asmongold 2024
To be fair, that's exactly how i think too. That's how i got to rid myself of the many many absurd unfounded morality claims and whatnot.
Just accept reality, life is a piece of shit, it's up to you to make the most of it and make sure your descendants can have a good life too. You don't need a purpose to have fun, you don't need your life to have any meaning for you to have a fullfilling existance. Just be, forget about the afterlife or what happens after death, just make the most of it and make sure the ones coming after can have a great time, just as your ancestors broke their backs building civilization and cities so their descendants could have a better life. The latter we've forgotten so badly everyone expects to have a cheap place in an already built city instead of trying to build/improve towns which are way cheaper to live at. Bunch of entitled people, no wonder they don't even want kids if they can't even respect what their elders managed to build for them.
@@rRekkoI agree with the point raised by Asmon about ignoring the compulsion to avoid hypocrisy, as it is far better to recognise the inherent contradictions of existence.
However, once you mention a concern for the wellbeing of “descendants”, I think it becomes more important to clarify and understand the specific contradictions in your own existence. I think Asmon does a fairly good job of this in general, and to the extent that even his apparent nihilism is actually moderated by a measured sense of morality, for any who care enough to notice…
Nihilism is a process, but is a poor place to stop, so my advice would be similar to that of “when going THROUGH Hell: keep going…”
Nietzsche is a good enough starting point, but I found that Jung shows a way out of that conclusion… Perhaps there is also something of the Stoic philosopher in your boy Asmon here, and maybe even something of the “true cynic” Diogenes of Synop.
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Like the organ trade can save so much money
The price of fish. It is what it is
5:50 - The Balrogs were on strike?! 😮
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Its the greatest when you pull a drink out right before it freezes. Its so cold it actually hurts a little, but is super refreshing at the same time
I love when Asmon and Alanah react to each other in any way, they both have very different styles and personal opinions yet agree on a lot of stuff when it comes to deeper insight into processes they're talking about
CG artists aren't unionised, practical effects artists are, thats the main reason everything is cgi now
I imagine practical effects often involve much higher levels of risk than cgi, that would be a great motivator I imagine
Cgi is best with practical effect. This weird war between practical effects and cgi isnt reality. Cgi is just an extra tool. Which is why Weta does both and have made some of the best cgi in movies
The RAGE Engine patented stuff is honestly an expansion of motion matching where an algorithm figures out which animation is best to use given various factors like speed and direction where a computer model is trained on a ton of sampled motion captured movement animations. What they're doing is more like emotion matching combined with motion matching
I think the best examples of when CGI is overused is when you compare the Hobbit trilogy to the LOTR movies. LOTR will stand the test of time far better from a visual perspective because of the limited use of CGI. The Hobbit is pure CGI and it looked crap even at the time.
I re-watched the LOTR movies recently, the Balrog still looks awesome.
The Hobbit was making my eyes bleed when we watched it in theaters. I couldn’t even say why exactly, but I just hated it so much, visually. 🤮 I have never watched it again, and I never watched the rest of them either.
The Penn and Teller reference at around 14:45 is a double whammy, since Penn himself will be the first to say that what they have in their show is NOT magic and he is NOT a wizard. In fact, they have a disdain for some performers who lean too hard on the mystical aspect.
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Barbie Movie: We didn't use visual effects in our movie
Barbie Movie credits: We want to credit these people for working on our visual effects in our movie.
1:25
Not only that, but doing the nuke scene without ANY CGI at all just made it look fake af for those who know what nukes are supposed to look like. They just hid that from all the weird angles and how they presented it. It didn't need to be some epic amazing shot, just... realistic looking. The sound design was pretty neat though.
People hating on CGI are completely missing the real issue, but really what do you expect after seeing how social media and politics are like these days?
Agreed, it’s all or nothing these days and it sucks we’ve lost so much nuance.
I can’t speak if it’s a good film, but look at the new Ghostbusters movie coming out. Slimer and the library ghost are being brought back practically but with CGI touches and I’m sure full CGI for certain shots. Those ghosts look great in that trailer, and I think it’s great when the effects get blended, and blended well.
Roller Coaster Tycoon had the people open up an umbrella if it starts raining.
Genius AI tech.
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So you are telling me that the dude in Passion of the Christ wasn't really Jesus?
@6:44 "yeah, this isn't a real Balrog... ...this is totally f*cking fake..." 😂😂
2:21 NAH 😂 Godzilla -1.0 stole the show at the end of the year
I wouldn't care about CGI if so much of it didn't look like complete shit. Not all CGI is bad, or even noticeable, and sometimes it's absolutely necessary, but as a general rule, if you can do it with practical effects, it just looks better. No surprise real looks more real than fake.
Bruh, not everyone into NFTs was an idiot. I knew they were stupid. I also knew a lot of people are stupid. Stupid enough to give me a lot of money.
Being a greedy opportunist isn't better than being being stupid lol
@@tihonannenkov4114
I'll have to take your word for it. I've never been stupid
bro some rich people wanted to spend a lot of money in nft and the guy is greedy for making money out of it? lol i did the same fucking thing its literally how everything in life works people buy for lower prices and sell for higher to make a job out of it how the fk that is greedy
@@tihonannenkov4114 being a greedy opportunist off stupid people is pretty justified imo. i made a good amount of money off flipping NFTs too. i just bought and sold. i mean scamming your audience and praying off the trust of people is a different moral area but hey if these dummies wanted to buy my overpriced NFTs thats not my fault.
@@vitinho14461 its just people mad/jealous they didnt do the same. making a couple grand off a few clicks online would make anyone envious.
If you want to watch a good fantasy film that has no CGI but has super FX - watch a movie called Dragonslayer (1981). It was made in an era just before CGI took over and it has traditional movie techniques and "movie magic".
Maverick had CG, plenty of it but it also had real people in those tomcats. They were in the back seat of the 2 seater. The filming rig was unique because it had to fit in the cockpit and that was no trivial task to solve cramming 5 Imax (I think) capable cameras in there.
How can there be real people in those Tomcats when there were no Tomcats?
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@@LunarisSolutions Yes, a Tomcat that was 100% CGI, ergo they weren't actually sitting in a Tomcat.
They pulled the cockpit section from a boneyard F-14, sat them in it and CGI’ed everything else.
The majority of the F/A-18F shots were real. The actors sat in the WSO seat and the external shots were performed by CineJet.
The Super Hornet that was used is Buno 165667 and is now currently Blue Angel #7 stationed at NAS Jax.
Btw, the only Tomcats that are flying are the 2 that Iran still uses to this day.
I don't mind the use of CGI when it's planned out. What I hate is the Last Minute Quick Fix CGI; such as the Rhino Scene from Spider-Man. They were going to use CGI for the Rhino Scene, and filmed it a certain way, but last minute the Producers changed their minds and wanted it done a different way, which meant the artists had to rush to do something else and it looked way worse!
I love the old Star Trek episodes where in some scenes you can see the rest of the studio behind the painted backdrop
I am so straight I don't even take pictures of myself.
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Yeah, the NPC AI thing is so stupid. It hasn't been a matter of tech but game size since the 90's. Yet, because we like to feel smarter than the other guy, In Techies it comes out as: "Look, we made this whole new tech." When in fact, it's just a bunch of optional code to make NPC be more "interactive". Sure, it might innovative in the way that it uses less code lines, or done in a way that is easier to compress in a library of possible actions but at the end of the day, it's just:
NPC RNG inventory: Umbrella, Case, Journal. When it rains, check if any is turned to 1, choose 1 if multiple are on then call the animation that puts it over the head.
As far as I understand it, the current AI is coded in and limited because it's already predetermined options. The interesting part about AI in the future is the self learning and not knowing how NPCs will grow, learn and react in the game world once the game starts and as it advances. I think that would lead to almost infinite replayability and keep things very interesting.
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Yeah, he sorta dropped the ball on that one. Ironically, because he doesn't know the difference between the colloquial AI vs generative AI and neural networks. LLMs in particular. What we have isn't good enough for immersive NPCs right now, imo, but in a few years we'll have NPCs in games that react better than hand-crafted dialogue options.
AI is the point of existence though because it makes the most human music ever.
they are so clueless, shes comparing ai used in games until now for basicly enemy coded behavior with the new machine learning ai lol, machine learning means u dont tell the ai what to do, u show them the rules of the game and through self play it masters any game to perfection, this works for any domain, internet, art, movies,, stories, dialogue etc
The balrog being CGI makes sense cuz it's a literal demon, an unreal entity. It doesn't need to look real because demons aren't real, but the story is based around magic so it's easy to suspend your disbelief. The caves and actors are real, too, so it grounds it in reality and makes the fakeness harder to spot. But then the CGI baby in Twilight was a huge meme because babies are real and a fake baby is really easy to spot. If you go to a movie with a "real" setting (not Lego City or something) and they give you an actor standing in front of a screen, it takes you out of it.
Balrog basically a fallen Angel
no it should be practical work no matter how awkward, if common people can make functioning mechs and accurate to scale thanos costumes then imagine a whole studio behind it
The actor standing in front of a screen for a "real" setting only takes you out of it if the CGI is done poorly. There are countless films you've watched in realistic settings that have used CGI with you never even realizing it.
You are right in the general sense. But then why does Godzilla when it's a guy in a rubber suit, look 100x better than a full CGI monster? Because your brain can tell, even subconsiously, that there is something physical there interracting with the environment, even if it's minatures. Obviously there are some things that can't be done practical while not looking super goofy, but many of them? Just compare original The Thing with the Remake/Prequel where they had a team doing it practical but the suits decided to switch to CGI and it look terrible.
@@MrHocotateFreight the person didn't explain that bebies are real lol, they explained the perception bias and it's true. It IS noticably fake when you see something made with CGI which you constantly see in real life. A jet made in CGI is less noticably fake than a car as you don't see jets flying around up close.
Problem with CGI is, that those poor VFX artists/studios have to do a job that takes 12 months and need to do it in 6 (as an example). And on top of that make huge changes inbetween or add something.
Most of the CGI/Visual effects in LotR still look great, because they took the time to do a quality render.
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She likes paying 5% kick-back to her Employer that is holding her talent VISA.....her Employer is Jirard, The Conpletionist's brother.
I don't mind CGI, its never the thing that takes me out of movies unless its laughably bad. That being said, I do think practical effects are way cooler in every single way.
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Yeah AI isn't going to add many new things in games it will just make it take less time/space so you can fit more in. Companies don't realise that having 1 person doing the work of 3 people means they do each job 1/3rd as well... the person suffers, the end user suffers and then the company suffers so they fire another person to cut costs and now the person has 4 jobs. AI can't steal jobs because it will not do the same job (in it's current capabilities) for many even basic tasks as the human will. Having AI generate dialogue on the fly is HUGE because it can have more variety and unique originality etc. It will save space in the original download but once you start generating dialogues and interactions (which need to be logged and 'memorised' for future interactions) your SSD starts filling up. If they can do it well, like CGI it will be great.
25:00 this is very disingenuous...of course theres NPCs in games that can technically 'remember your actions' like a guard in Skyrim knowing you have a bounty on your head, or you making a specific dialogue choice they didn't like, but thats not what the article was talking about....
Its more to do with generative AI that you can have deep conversations with....
Which is something thats absolutely *not* in most games yet.
And yes, it *is* something we will need better AI for, to make happen....I don't care about talking to the same ncp and having the exact same 3 dialogue choices the whole game, I cant wait till you can actually talk to the NPCs with some level of realism.... something thats not scripted or hard coded in.
You cannot convince me that you don't need AI for that, because it simply does not exist without generative AI...
Its funny because Asmon and This girl both entirely missed the point.
Ngl, im kinda surprised that neither of them understood what was being read. Lol
If you want an example of this, look up game that use generative AI. I've seen a clip of this detective game where the player uses a mic to ask the NPCs anything they want and have to figure out what happened.
It's really cool, Charlie (Moist critical) even gets in an argument with an NPC about his height. Lol
@@MonsterGaming-rh7sbplease what is the name of this detective game? Is on steam to buy or no?
@@scarletsletter4466 probably on Steam, yeah. I don't remember the name. It was a few months ago that I seen Charlie playing it. There's also a circus one (something about vaudeville or something) that he played using the same type of generative AI. You have to solve a murder by asking the different NPCs about it.
It's really cool being able to ask literally anything instead of having 2-4 scripted choices...
why are u surprised lol, they both have no clue what ai is, they still think ai is something that does copy paste of what humans did previously which is so wrong. ai uses the rules the humans use and builds on that, the same way it solved chess, poker etc by knowing the rules and than playing again itself until it became better and better and at some point it solved the game
AI is an ambiguous term, machine learning would be what people actually are thinking of when they say AI. AI used to be lots of things we don’t really think of that way any longer. The AI bar moves as our standards for what is considered “intelligent” software moves.
Just like Alanah and Asmon many people have no clue what ai or machine learning is. Its basicly telling the ai the rules of a game and it will master it to perfection on its own, u dont tell the ai what to say do or how to play, it does everything itself through machine learning, the fact that these people refuse to believe ai will make the most amazing art, games,dialogue lines,stories etc is crazy
Whenever she mentions CEOs, he immediately runs interference lol
More of a "AcKTuAlLy"
"Anyway, what was I fucking saying? " lmao that was hilarious
The use of AI in games is not to replace all developers just for shits and giggles, what we can do in games today takes a lot of time and this only applies to the main followers if we really want them to have honest reactions and not just a text that says he remembered something... the AI will speed it up and make it possible for every npc in the game to have similar barks and reactions to your actions, imagine every npc in GTA 5 that can recognize you, and remember that you ran over their friend last time you drove crazy, the game would have a drastically different feel if you had to pay attention to the reactions of the secondary npc in the game.
Chill
The greenscreen gag had me dying. Asmon you are a master entertainer
A movie not having cgi doesnt always mean its going to be a good movie. Cgi needs to be used responsibly by those who have experience in it and not overused when not needed. The quality of the cgi must always be high quality so the scene doesnt look cheap, but look believable. Its like MSG, if you put enough of a good combo of spices to the meat, using a small amout of MSG will make the spices pop out more, too much of it will ruin it.
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10:05 if you use a smartphone camera it is literally impossible to have an unfiltered photo, there is so much software to process the photo to make up for the deficiencies in hardware.
The Belrog in Lord of the Rings was both practical and cgi. Just fyi 👍🏽
I heard they actually did get the Belrog in from the farm, but they had to add much of the flames in because Gandalf didn't want to risk getting burned for real.
Exactly. They just didn’t have enough time for the balrog to learn to use the whip properly, so they had to cgi that in. 😉
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The scene before when the fellowship runs over the bridge is 100% CGI as well.
the wizard going to Penn & Teller is exactly that.
look at this guys, *starts flying like superman*
-Penn & Teller: ''nice, if we put some wires on you we can sell this show 2x week in Vegas''
It always comes back to a clip of Asmon farming himself by farming someone that farms his points. 😂 it’s genius.
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If you want to see real action movies go to 60's, 70's, 80's. Lethal Weapon, Bullitt , Die Hard, The French Connection, Gone in 60 seconds(1974). Stunt doubles did great work. In Bullit Steve McQueen actually drove because he was also a capable racing driver.
Nvidia using LLM AI for NPCs is completely fair to call that AI and is a huge advancement
i dont think alanah knows the diffrence betwen machine learning ai and ai term used in games for npc behaviour until now
"Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin
I always suspected that Star Wars may be fake, I mean there is no way the guy filming the imperial gunner pulling the firing lever of the superlaser could have smuggled out the recording before the Death Star blew up. ;)
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The main problem is because CGI lets you do things that are impossible with practical the directors stopped caring about it. It means they're not planning out before shooting what shots are needed so they expect the CGI teams to make up the missed shots out of nothing. It's why Godzilla Minus Zero was able to do it so cheaply and with so few effects people, they actually planned out the shots.
I remember them saying that Angelina jolie did all her own stunts when i had a distant relative that literally did one of the stunts rhey referred to and kept showing
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Saying that Nvidia is now pushing AI tech is misleading. Nvidia has been doing so, yes, but for years. If I remember correctly they started experimenting with it back in 2006.
Can't wait for every NPC in an open world game to be a chatbot. That will be fun for like 15 minutes.
20:55 It's the old mantra of "The customer is always right!". Not the "he can behave like sh't" right, but the "If a product is decent..." right.
Did I hear it right? They made a movie with CGI, claimed it was all practical effects. Then they released footage to show us proof of practical effects being used on set wich turns out to be CGI too.
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Professional CGI artist here, the amount of fucking work we do is insane. Good CGI is when you can't tell CGI is being used. The amount of bullshit we have to deal with from clients is extraordinary. Clients like to what we like to call "pixel fuck" a shot. They will zoom in 1000% change contrast to maximum and tell you pixel 3 needs to be changed.
Nooo.. So the Godzilla don't exist? ;-;
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The man in the rubber suit version exists, though. It's a movie prop.
The phantom menace bro. Remember how Disney thought the new movies would be great just because they had practical effects in it and they wound up having more CG shots than the prequels. People were so unhappy with the prequels they latched onto many different theories to cry about how Lucas touched them in bad places. They decided it was all the acting in front of green screens that made them suck and after that it was cool to brag you used practical effects.
I had AI in Pokemon Red version from the 90s, those trainers always knew when I was getting close and would spin to catch me. Heck, PONG had AI. That ball always made quick responses on the way you'd hit it, to then choose which direction it should bounce to. This is what happens when normies try to use internet/fancy lingo, their NPC brains break. Bad AI.
thats not ai lol
Studios like to claim that they don't use CGI because people like the Oscar Academy don't give awards to films with CGI. The Two Towers may be the only film with CGI to have ever won an Oscar.
Do another line cokey
There is a video of some guys doing the Oppenheimer nuclear explosion scene without CGI and without a real one.
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21:00 "BLIZZARD STREAMER" , GOD DAMN I LAUGHED SO HARD hahaha
"wait, what was I even saying?"
"who cares..."
-Asmonpapa
Best part about this "This wasn't made with CGI! Look how good that makes this!"
Flight of the Navigator was advertised as "Look! This film was made with CGI! Look how good that makes this!"
What is so gross? after 6 minutes I still have no clue.... I give up.
I'm a game developer and have a graphic design background.. I was told by my father that I should 100% get into making NFTs (this was at the top of the craze) and I turned around and told him no. I absolutely could have made a boatload of money from doing it but I chose not to because I don't see essentially scamming people as the way that I'd want to enrich myself from.
I could see Chris Angel believing he is an actual wizard
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I could see some director like James Cameron going: "Let's just go with a real nuke."
22:10 W absurdist take.
Albert Camus, a French philosopher, was the father of a philosophy named absurdism. It's essentially the other side of the nihilist coin: everything is meaningless, but it doesn't need to have meaning. Just enjoy what you like, give the meaning you want to what you want to give it to. Things being meaningless and life not having a purpose doesn't mean you can't live and enjoy your time on Earth.
It's a bit oversimplified, but that's the TLDR essentially.
Worst immersion-breaking CGI in a AAA movie. Henry Cavill's mustache delete as Superman. No contest.
If the product is good, consumer doesn't care how is it made. If the product is shit, consumer doesn't care about the excuse given by the film maker. At the end of the day, average consumer doesn't need to participate or to know in every single aspect of the production. No one care.
District 9 is imo still the pinnacle of cgi. It made use of the cgi just like any other tool and didn't use it in a sterile and in your face way. Only reason it's not the standard is because doing it that way was insanely time consuming and kind of crazy. Although hopefully with the rise of "AI" technology it will streamline cgi in a way to make it easier to do.
I never expected to see Asmon react to Alanah Pearce without click baiting the hell out of her looks 😂
Her: “CGI Animation is the lazy mans job” (I assume she means the companies are lazy with it, but needs better word choice)
Also Her: “CGI takes a lot of work and a lot of effort and a lot of people”
Art is not the problem. It's the artist
She wasnt saying CGI = Bad. She was saying lying and marketing around "no cgi used" is bad and pointless.
late night crew
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Damn my entire essay got checkmated in less than 2 sentences, props you really are gold man, pure 24k gold.
It's like men saying they prefer girls without makeup: we prefer not noticing that her good looks are accentuated by makeup.
The brain just wants the chemical rush....all the rest is the "idiots guide to shitting on your cornflakes."
i have no idea why would they willingly take an L liek that but i do know why people think CGI bad.
It's because we are currently in an era of attrociously bad, mishandled and mismanaged CGI. Lots of bad scenes get made because of the quality of script, writing, acting and CGI themselves.
And people in the industry very much do NOT want you to talk about the fact that they hire incompetent overpaid hacks to do acting writing and directing movies and tv shows, and instead let the blame fall on CGI that is made by underpaid overworked exploited tech people that they see as replaceable.
So for sane people CGI bad is not en elitist take it's simply a corelation.
nah bro. im straight. no filters. im ugly, last thing i need is to be accused of false advertising
a guy who lies about his complexion will lie about his **** size
loved her camo in cyberpunk
Wasn't a fan of it cuz it looks really bad but I remember she explained that she took like 4 selfies so maybe that's why it's so awful looking 😂
In Jurassic Park they hired Real Dinosaurs confirmed!!