Your interaction with the store owner had me smiling the entire time -- definitely the reason I come back to watch your reviews. As for the lens, straight out of camera, wowzers. Just amazing!
The interactions at the shop were so fun & genuine, and the photos are absolutely stunning. Nikon has knocked it out of the park with this lens. Also, comparisons with the Canon lens - which is also beautiful in its own - were helpful too. Thank you so much for the effort and the incredible production quality! Always a pleasure to watch your videos.
So awesome. Always the best reviews coming from your channel. I preordered this and got an email yesterday from Nikon saying they are shipping my lens NPS priority. I’ve been consumed with this lens and have been watching Plena coverage from Japanese channels (watching with translated captions). Haven’t been this excited for a piece of gear in a long time. That guy in the store with the lamps was great. Personality plus. Ha!
Awesome review as always, Bobby! Your insights convinced me to grab the Plena today. After a few snaps of my kids, I'm already loving it. It's also such a beauty! I used to swear by the 50mm f1.2, but this might become my new favorite. Take care and keep up the great work!
Great review on the Plena and Zf. The Zf images with the Plena looks really nice. Great how you backed into a mini photoshoot when you were supposed to be doing the shooting, lol! Awesome images from the Z9 as well. Enjoyed to video! Keep on making great content bud.
Interesting to see how round the bokeh is, especially after Gerald Undone did a video on Arri lenses showing how even their most expensive primes have cats eye bokeh. He mentioned how that should influence our standards on photo lenses, but now it's interesting to see the Plena setting a new standard. Without a doubt rounder bokeh than a 30,000 dollar cinema lens.
I also tested the Arri lens for photography as well with the GFX100S, Can check on my channel. Different rendering but bokeh is only part of the Arri magic. Its also how it renders skin tones etc
The Plena vs. the 85mm 1.2 will be a tough debate. I love the 85, it's my favorite portrait lens. But to me, the Plena has a unique look. The bokeh and fall off are next level. I was surprised that you said the Plena was a wash with the Canon 135. I agree that they are close in sharpness, but the 135 Canon is similar to the Canon 85 1.2 and even the Canon 50 1.2 for that matter. All clinical and the Canon colors hold them back. I think the Plena is unique. It has some soul to it.
There will be a lot that go back and forth from 85 to 135 for sure. The Canon while not having such a pleasing bokeh as the Nikon does have Image stabilisation and closer focusing giving it a bit more versatility. However these are specs, it comes down to system choice and image preference.
Imo this reflects C/N's philosophies. On 45MP bodies, RF135 on R5 suffers from the low pass filter. I believe that Canon will excel in center resolution, whereas Nikon will provide uniformly high resolution across the entire frame without sacrificing peripheral illumination. N just chose to create an iconic character with acceptable sharpness, sufficient for practical use. Considering RF135 consists of only spherical elements, optical designwise it is unique as well (free of quality control of asph onion rings and assembly; superior in my mind of building a sharp lens compared to 135GM). It also offers single element AF and IS, thought to be "harmful" in producing the top image quality. DIGIC X covers more RF bodies than Expeed 7 does on Z. These features are consistent with RF's general package (IS/better max. magnifications, etc.) Nikon won't begin with these mechanical factors definitely, lol. Plena is Plena, you distinguish it from others, not only a sharp 135mm.
I "met" you as you were shooting at the the Grand Copthorne Waterfront a few weeks ago. Just one of many strangers hosestly. Watching the shoot I was honestly a bit amazed how kind you were to the people around you, as some of the other actors perhaps were a bit not as kind. Now that I see you are also into photography...well, I am a new subscriber. Look forward to following. Singapore is a photographer's playground.
Thank you for the kind words. A film set is based on teamwork and trust. We had a great group of individuals there and was awesome to be part of it. Thanks for subscribing, hope you enjoy my content here
❤Yikes!!! I’m addicted to bokeh balls!! The images of you surrounded by bokeh balls is crazy absolutely round. The images in the Turkish shop had great falloff. Ok looks like I gotta get one ☝️ great production my friend!
What a fun review! Really would love to get this lens but I think it's not practical for my commercial shoots. Think it would be great for sports and concerts. I love how you take your review out to the streets and not just get the shots done in sterile situations. Always a joy to see your videos pop up in my feed.
Great video Bobby! all of the Plena images look brighter, “peripheral illumination” vs Canon lens. I bought Plena when it first came out and waited for months for its release to the world. I was lucky to have received right after shipping date. I couldn’t be happier! It’s a beast in sharpness and bokeh! I work a lot in low lit theaters and nightclubs. It’s just perfect for this application. Whenever and wherever I can, I mount my Plena knowing it’s going to capture stunning images. Thank You Nikon!
the color tone on the plena looks warmer and overall more pleasing. the canon's color looks a bit cold and magenta-ish, not sure if there is some wb variation but that's what I saw.
Cool review, thanks a lot! Got mine yesterday, booked a model for tomorrow and will do some testing. Also will be comparing it to the Nikon Z85/1.2, which is almost the same focal-length/aperture-look on APS-C bodies. What stands out to me for now, is that the bokeh is less hectic/distracting than it used to be on this kind of lenses. Almost all of the very open aperture lenses have a swirly bokeh round the center because of the bokeh-distortions on the edge, the Plena does apparently not. Swirls might be OK, if they are around your subject, but not if your subject/attention-center is not totally centered. Some people call it the character of vintage lenses, but if I want it, I go with a cheap vintage lens - it's a distracting error, not a feature (same with CA).
Thanks for watching. Yes this bokeh is quite unique. Well corrected yet it has something special to it. The optical performance on this is really something. Different to the 85 which is a phenomenal lens.
I have the 85 1.2 and the Z9, however I have been waiting for the Plena for a really long time. B&H has it on back order so I have to wait a bit. Thanks for a great review, it actually helped me a bit.
Looks like a great lens for the Nikon platform. Honestly I was really hesitant about the focal lens of 135mm for my Sony, until I tried the 135mm F1.8 GM on my A7RV - absolute dream of a combination 😊👍
I have the Sony 135mm 1.8 GM. Recently I have looked at my photos taken with my Sony 135mm 1.8 GM, most of the photos are taken at 2.8 to 5.6, at aperture 2,8 there are plenty of "bokeh" !!! I do not like the big size and weight of the 135mm 1.8, in the spring I got the smaller and lighter Voigtländer Macro APO-Lanthar 110mm 2.5 and now I rarely use the Sony 135mm 1.8 !!! The Voigtländer 110mm are so good for any kind of photography and it is built like a tank, much better than the Sony. The Zeiss Batis APO Sonnar 135mm 2.8 have a much nicer size and weight.
When Sony released their 135/1.8 G-Master more than four years ago, it became the sharpest lens in my bag. It might still be. Great focal length and aperture.
Back when I had the a7r4 the 135 gm and the 90mm are the sharpest lenses I’ve ever used. The only lens that went neck and neck with the 135gm was my zeiss 135 apo sonar.
Honest to god one of my favorite camera people to watch. Heads above everyone. Its a hard decision for me to pick between 85 and 135 Z. It will be used for in studio talking head. So i'll probably go for the 85... but that 135 to use for "fake" macro would be extreme fun..
Thank you. That’s really kind of you to say 🙏🙏🙏 Funny you mentioned the macro. I tried it for some b roll and loved the look. 85 is more practical but the 135 is magic
@@btonelli welcome! I try to bring in the same real world acitivies in my reviews after watching your channel for years. Hearing about that macro video... Man.. Macro wildlife would be so fun. 😂📹
Nikon is hitting the Ball out the Park >> All others have a LOOONG way to go to even get half way to where Nikon is these days >> Canon's Version is not on the same Planet as the Plana
Nikon is doing really well, just two things they need to do. Make smaller lenses and fill out their shorter prime focal lengths. In regards to the Canon 135 they both are really good.
Hello Bobby, Yes its a great look lens, nice to see a comparison with the Canon. But I do not think yhis is a lens for me, (yet) I am saving for the new 600mm. Thank you for your thoughts.
Now the decision making comes Plena or 85 1.2; not that the lens will be available (other than a couple here and there to meet the "late Oct" shipping mis-promise) in Canada for months and months. But wow that's another mighty fine lens in the Z lineup. Loved your experience in the shop! Cheers.
I liked the review and the variety of shots you gave us. Aside from the bokeh, the contrast also seem to be different than other Nikon Z Lenses. I use the Nikkor Z 105 MC macro lens for Portraits etc and I feel like they have some similarities in terms of sharpness and contrast, but Plena has some intangible quality to it, which I can't describe.
Thank you. Yes the contrast is slightly less I feel from other Nikkor lenses. It does share some characteristics to the 105 but it has this gentle fall off to a very clean circular bokeh. Quite unique when you photograph with it. It’s special and haven’t used anything like this. Even the Otus doesn’t have this type of bokeh
@@btonellijust the secret sauce I’ve been looking for. I want it to complement my tl35 on my tl2, and I’ve had my Nikon z5 laying around for over a year and haven’t found a worthy lens for it until now!
Thanks, as always, for your initial thoughts and well tailored video. I know this is a crazy request, but I would be very curious to see the IQ of the 85mm f1.2 vs 135mm f1.8 vs 200mm f2. Just for grins. ;-) Thanks, and you are lucky, you don't need retouching!
@@btonelli You're very welcome (as always). Yes, the 200 f2 is massive, heavy, built from steel, and not ergonomically right (poor foot, focus collar in the wrong place - where your hand sits). That said, as an amateur photographer a handful of years, it's the one lens that consistently gets me excited about shooting. The look of the images appears to be very close to the 135 PLENA. I had been wondering about how close the 135mm would be...and let's face it, once you need a walkie talkie to communicate with the person posing, adding another 1/2 mile isn't that much ;-) I completely understand why you'd go with the 85mm. Someday, in the future, I'll seriously consider one of them. Appreciate your efforts, as always. PS: Enjoyed the "warrior" in ya.
Looks amazing. For other platforms, make sure to check out the Samyang (or Rokinon) AF 135mm F1.8. And for those on a budget keep an eye out for a good deal on the older manual Samyang 135mm F2 for full-frame and APS-C. I have the latter on a Fuji body and the quality is incredible.
@@btonelli DustinAbbott has done a good break down on both (on his RUclips and site). Btw Bobby, you don't need any Adobe filters for your photos, it takes away your natural charm. Great to see your channel and content grow.
Depends on your needs. Nikon has definitely made strides especially in their tech, lens lineup and cameras. Sony is more mature in the mirrorless space. What I like about Sony is the system is more compact overall. Lenses and camera bodies are noticeably more compact which makes it easier to carry around. However Sony doesn’t really update their cameras that much so many of the newer features are given to new cameras and the top end cameras barely get substantial firmware updates. With that said what I appreciate about Nikon is the upgrades they provide that are essentially mark II versions of a specific camera at no charge. The push for better optics in all their lenses, sometimes at the behest of size Their history and tapping on that like the new Zf. Color science Video performance now on the Z8 and Z9 bests the Sony consumer cameras.
@@curtw532 I like both cameras. The RV is a very versatile camera system with great image quality, solid video specs The Z9 is larger but the Z8 is very close to the RV in many ways. I think at this juncture you gotta go with what feels good in your hands and features you will use more.
Both are fantastic lenses but render a bit differently. One may say the 85 is slightly sharper but the bokeh on the Plena is just different. I prefer it more to the 85, but an 85mm is more versatile
Amazing lens. I wish they had a 105 mm Plena, because it would be a bit more useful for every day photography. If I was a pro, I'd definitely get this one.
Very tough decision. I find both of them absolutely stellar. The Plena to me is really special. Just depends if you are comfortable with a 135 focal length
@@btonelli Thanks Bobby i enjoy watching your channel for me quite informative i have been shooting my z 70-200 at 135 for a few days so i think it should be ok
Bit the bullet and purchased the 135 plena thanks again for your review lens is great one other inquiry am also looking for a reasonably priced 512 gb cf express type b card for my z8 for photography only thanks@@btonelli
Thanks again Bobby i purchased the plena today i do have another inquiry i am looking for a reasonably priced cf express type b card for my z8 for mainly photography 512 gb or more thanks@@btonelli
Out of which system?? There are many I like right now. Nikon I have to say this lens and the 85 are my absolute favourites for primes follows by the 50 f1.2. Leica: 35 SL APO and 50 APO Fujifilm GF 55mm f1.7 and 110 f2 Hasselblad 80 1.9 and the 38 and 55 Canon: 135 f1.8 and 85 1.2 Sony: 50 1.2 and 70-200 f2.8 GM II
@@btonellihow does the RF 85 f1.2 compare to the Nikon? Have you noticed any differences in AF performance on bodies like the R5 vs Z8/Z9? And how do the 85's stack up to the 135's? I owned the Sigma 135mm f1.8 and then the Sony 135mm f1.8 GM when I shot Sony (A7RIV). They had incredible compression but I found the fixed 135mm a very difficult focal length to shoot with.
Difference in AF isn’t much at all to be honest. Nikon has done some solid updates to close the gap. Hard to compare the two as they render slightly different. The RF might have a bit more contrast and slightly less sharper? I mean slightly.
@@btonelli do you prefer one over the other in terms of rendering? Or between the two 135's and the two 85's? The RF 85 has been widely regarded as one of the best portrait lenses of all time (I own it and love it) but with the Plena design and "perfect" bokeh balls of some of the Nikon lenses I'm wondering if it is a noticeable difference in bokeh/rendering that makes you prefer the look of one over the other(s). Nikon is the only brand I've never shot with but with the release of the Z8 and their lens lineup I've been very interested in the brand.
It's a great lens. But I have two issues with it: 135mm is too long for me (would want a 105mm f1.4) and it's just too expensive. The Sony 135mm f1.8 version can be had for half the price and is also amazing (have Nikon and Sony cameras).
Fair points. I could see a 105 1.2 Plena come into the picture. Much like the DC range of the past. The Sony is great, but to be honest this is a better lens considering.
@@btonelli Probably great for people that like 135mm (I don't). Indoors I usually cannot get far enough away from my model with this lens and outdoors I need a megaphone to talk to my model. Unfortunately 105mm f1.4 lenses are rare (there's only the huge Sigma and the old Nikon F lens).
Bokeh? I have been shooting pic for over 50yrs, and never heard the Term until about 2 yrs ago, and Quite Frankly, really don't give a Rodent's Rectum about the Out of Focus areas. I am more concerned about getting the In Focus areas sharp.
In the portrait at 10.20 minutes, in my opinion, there is no focus on the eyes- because of this, it is difficult to understand the exact sharpness. Again Nikon misses the focus on the eyes!
I love how companies can come out with these lenses and all of a sudden everybody acts like its a new concept to make a 135mm at f1.8 aputure, "King of Bokeh" lol what died on that hill to give it that title? Another 135mm f1.8??? As if sigma didnt introduce it years ago. But we overlook it because it isnt "shiney and new" this is what I despise about the youtube tech community. This lens has been around for years! Cheaper and sharper at that, at nearly half the price! LOL
Actually what makes this lens special is the consistent bokeh from edge to edge, no vignetting and constant sharpness throughout the frame. The other lenses are good, this one is just unique. I’ve tried them all and found this to be different.
I know photography is expensive but the prices Nikon charges for some of their Z lenses is not funny anymore. In Europe we have to pay 3000 Euro. That is 3264 USD if I check the latest exchange currency rates. I will stick to my Sigma 135mm 1.8.
Yes lenses are getting a bit pricey to be honest and creeping into a territory that makes it unattainable for some. Best to look for a mint second hand one
Do you really need aperture 1.8 for a 135mm Lens !? Recently I have looked at my photos taken with my Sony 135mm 1.8 GM, most of the photos are taken at 2.8 to 5.6, at aperture 2,8 there are plenty of "bokeh" !!! I do not like the big size and weight of the 135mm 1.8, in the spring I got the Voigtländer Macro APO-Lanthar 110mm 2.5 and now I rarely use the Sony 135mm 1.8 !!! The Voigtländer 110mm are so good for any kind of photography and it is built like a tank, much better than the Sony.
1.8 helps with low light and more depth of field if you are in a location and need to really blue out the background. Sure we don’t need 1.8 all the time and for me I tend to be fine with 2.8 etc but if I want to really isolate a subject or person or want some good foreground blur I like it. Everyone will have their own tastes and for some it’s not necessary, but when I was photographing in the bar, even 1.8 I had to crank up the ISO. 2.8 -5 would be too difficult
@@btonelli That is an extreme situation you describe, I would never go to a bar with my gear ! If you had the Zeiss Batis APO Sonnar 135mm 2.8 it has optical stabilizer in the Lens. It is also still allowed to use a tripod, even if is only is a pocket tripod. 1.8 to 2.5 is only one stop, so not a big deal to crank up the ISO !
@@cameraprepper7938 understand. I get it. It’s a 1.8 and you can stop down. It’s there when you need it. Like having sports car. Most won’t ever drive to the full potential of the car, but some like it for the potential and also the performance.
@@btonelli I have have had the Sony 135mm 1.8 GM since it came some years ago, I have rarely used aperture 1.8 and I do not think that image taken at 1.8 with a 135mm look pleasing, hence my use of (2.5) 2.8 to 5.6, what I really do not like with the 135mm 1.8 is the size and the weight. Now I am very happy with my Voigtländer 110mm. If I was to get a 135mm today, then the Zeiss Batis 135mm will be the first choice ! The Voigtländer 110mm is sharper at 2.5 and 2.8 than the Sony 135mm !!! The Voigtländer is an overlooked gem, but many are "scared" to use manual focus, I do manual focus 99.99% of the time because I want the focus to be exactly where I want !
@btonelli Well, 135mm F2 DC is not a Sigma lens. It's a Nikon lens. I thought you would know that. There is only one in the world lens that has a DC option. It stands for defocus control. That means you can blur background even more than normal lens. In terms of AF motor, yes, it is a srewdrive lens, but I have no problem using this lens and getting sharp images. The lens is amazing and cheaper than new plena.
True to some extent but you can always stop down to see more of the surroundings. However if you want your subject isolated or in a location where the surroundings aren’t ideal having this type of lens takes away the distractions.
I agree with taking away distractions, but some of that distraction gives context, or at least an idea of the location, and not only OOF colorful discs, and smooth unrecognizable color shapes, and if we're going to stop down, then what is the point of buying a f/1.8 135mm lens in the first place. I think bokeh is blown out of proportion, and lens manufacturers are selling what the hype is dictating. Imagine traveling 5,000 miles to a different country and culture, only to take completely OOF photos. What would be the point? I hope you can see my point of view. Thanks for the reply.
@@karimnasser6886 I definitely see your point and agree to some extent, but for a lens like this it’s really meant for isolation of a subject and the pleasant bokeh that comes with it. Think of it like an artisan lens. It won’t be for everyday or for everyone but for those that want the uniqueness it offers it delivers.
Your interaction with the store owner had me smiling the entire time -- definitely the reason I come back to watch your reviews. As for the lens, straight out of camera, wowzers. Just amazing!
Thanks! They were really kind and I’ll definitely be back there. Haha yes the lens is quite amazing
That very sweet Turkish guy who invited you into his shop didn't know just how good his shop was going to be for demonstrating that lens lmao
lol!!! He was Plena’d in a good way 😂😂
The interactions at the shop were so fun & genuine, and the photos are absolutely stunning. Nikon has knocked it out of the park with this lens. Also, comparisons with the Canon lens - which is also beautiful in its own - were helpful too. Thank you so much for the effort and the incredible production quality! Always a pleasure to watch your videos.
Thank you. Very unexpected and they were warm and genuine.
Appreciate you checking out my videos and the support 🙏
That random sidetrack at the shop turned into an epic adventure.
Yes it did!
So awesome. Always the best reviews coming from your channel. I preordered this and got an email yesterday from Nikon saying they are shipping my lens NPS priority. I’ve been consumed with this lens and have been watching Plena coverage from Japanese channels (watching with translated captions). Haven’t been this excited for a piece of gear in a long time.
That guy in the store with the lamps was great. Personality plus. Ha!
Thank you for the kind words. This lens will be one of the modern icons when it comes to lenses. There is something special about it
Awesome review as always, Bobby! Your insights convinced me to grab the Plena today. After a few snaps of my kids, I'm already loving it. It's also such a beauty! I used to swear by the 50mm f1.2, but this might become my new favorite. Take care and keep up the great work!
Thank you! Enjoy the lens it’s special
Great review on the Plena and Zf. The Zf images with the Plena looks really nice. Great how you backed into a mini photoshoot when you were supposed to be doing the shooting, lol! Awesome images from the Z9 as well. Enjoyed to video! Keep on making great content bud.
Thanks Wayne! Yes a lot of this vid was really unexpected but we just went with the flow and had some fun. Really appreciate the support
@@btonelli Real life happenings are a great way to show a product as well. It's nice when plans change and end up turning out great!
@@waynerm002 agree!
Phenomenal lens! I would consider it if I didn’t own the awesome 85 1.2! Great information. Happy shooting. 📸
Thanks. Yes it will be a tough decision 85 vs this
Interesting to see how round the bokeh is, especially after Gerald Undone did a video on Arri lenses showing how even their most expensive primes have cats eye bokeh. He mentioned how that should influence our standards on photo lenses, but now it's interesting to see the Plena setting a new standard. Without a doubt rounder bokeh than a 30,000 dollar cinema lens.
I also tested the Arri lens for photography as well with the GFX100S, Can check on my channel.
Different rendering but bokeh is only part of the Arri magic. Its also how it renders skin tones etc
The Plena vs. the 85mm 1.2 will be a tough debate. I love the 85, it's my favorite portrait lens. But to me, the Plena has a unique look. The bokeh and fall off are next level. I was surprised that you said the Plena was a wash with the Canon 135. I agree that they are close in sharpness, but the 135 Canon is similar to the Canon 85 1.2 and even the Canon 50 1.2 for that matter. All clinical and the Canon colors hold them back. I think the Plena is unique. It has some soul to it.
There will be a lot that go back and forth from 85 to 135 for sure.
The Canon while not having such a pleasing bokeh as the Nikon does have Image stabilisation and closer focusing giving it a bit more versatility. However these are specs, it comes down to system choice and image preference.
Imo this reflects C/N's philosophies. On 45MP bodies, RF135 on R5 suffers from the low pass filter. I believe that Canon will excel in center resolution, whereas Nikon will provide uniformly high resolution across the entire frame without sacrificing peripheral illumination. N just chose to create an iconic character with acceptable sharpness, sufficient for practical use.
Considering RF135 consists of only spherical elements, optical designwise it is unique as well (free of quality control of asph onion rings and assembly; superior in my mind of building a sharp lens compared to 135GM). It also offers single element AF and IS, thought to be "harmful" in producing the top image quality. DIGIC X covers more RF bodies than Expeed 7 does on Z. These features are consistent with RF's general package (IS/better max. magnifications, etc.)
Nikon won't begin with these mechanical factors definitely, lol. Plena is Plena, you distinguish it from others, not only a sharp 135mm.
I "met" you as you were shooting at the the Grand Copthorne Waterfront a few weeks ago. Just one of many strangers hosestly. Watching the shoot I was honestly a bit amazed how kind you were to the people around you, as some of the other actors perhaps were a bit not as kind. Now that I see you are also into photography...well, I am a new subscriber. Look forward to following. Singapore is a photographer's playground.
Thank you for the kind words. A film set is based on teamwork and trust. We had a great group of individuals there and was awesome to be part of it.
Thanks for subscribing, hope you enjoy my content here
What a great video... and I want this lens!
Thank you!
Thanks for watching!!
❤Yikes!!! I’m addicted to bokeh balls!! The images of you surrounded by bokeh balls is crazy absolutely round. The images in the Turkish shop had great falloff. Ok looks like I gotta get one ☝️ great production my friend!
Hahaha yeah. That was taken on the first day I got the lens. I was blown away
Thanks for this video, Bobby. You've made a great job, as usual. When my budget gets balanced I'll go for Plena.
Thanks for the kind words
What a fun review! Really would love to get this lens but I think it's not practical for my commercial shoots. Think it would be great for sports and concerts. I love how you take your review out to the streets and not just get the shots done in sterile situations. Always a joy to see your videos pop up in my feed.
Thank you! We had fun filming this one.
Great video Bobby! all of the Plena images look brighter, “peripheral illumination” vs Canon lens. I bought Plena when it first came out and waited for months for its release to the world. I was lucky to have received right after shipping date. I couldn’t be happier! It’s a beast in sharpness and bokeh! I work a lot in low lit theaters and nightclubs. It’s just perfect for this application. Whenever and wherever I can, I mount my Plena knowing it’s going to capture stunning images. Thank You Nikon!
Thank you! It’s really a special lens and you are absolutely right, the images have a certain type of brightness to them.
the color tone on the plena looks warmer and overall more pleasing. the canon's color looks a bit cold and magenta-ish, not sure if there is some wb variation but that's what I saw.
Yes this the color science between Nikon and Canon
I forgot to say, I really like your channel. Thanks.
Much appreciated. Thank you 🙏
This must have been so much fun to document!
Haha was a lot of fun and completely unexpected
Cool review, thanks a lot! Got mine yesterday, booked a model for tomorrow and will do some testing. Also will be comparing it to the Nikon Z85/1.2, which is almost the same focal-length/aperture-look on APS-C bodies.
What stands out to me for now, is that the bokeh is less hectic/distracting than it used to be on this kind of lenses. Almost all of the very open aperture lenses have a swirly bokeh round the center because of the bokeh-distortions on the edge, the Plena does apparently not. Swirls might be OK, if they are around your subject, but not if your subject/attention-center is not totally centered. Some people call it the character of vintage lenses, but if I want it, I go with a cheap vintage lens - it's a distracting error, not a feature (same with CA).
Thanks for watching. Yes this bokeh is quite unique. Well corrected yet it has something special to it. The optical performance on this is really something. Different to the 85 which is a phenomenal lens.
Wow! I was blown away with this latest nikon plena lens performance!
It’s really good!
WOW! i was skeptical but you made this lense shine! GOD Bless
Thank you! 🙏 God Bless you too
I have the 85 1.2 and the Z9, however I have been waiting for the Plena for a really long time. B&H has it on back order so I have to wait a bit. Thanks for a great review, it actually helped me a bit.
Thanks for watching. You will enjoy the lens when you get it. It’s special :)
Thanks for a great review.👍
Thanks for watching 🙏
Looks like a great lens for the Nikon platform. Honestly I was really hesitant about the focal lens of 135mm for my Sony, until I tried the 135mm F1.8 GM on my A7RV - absolute dream of a combination 😊👍
Indeed. One of my favourite lenses for the Sony E Mount
I have the Sony 135mm 1.8 GM. Recently I have looked at my photos taken with my Sony 135mm 1.8 GM, most of the photos are taken at 2.8 to 5.6, at aperture 2,8 there are plenty of "bokeh" !!! I do not like the big size and weight of the 135mm 1.8, in the spring I got the smaller and lighter Voigtländer Macro APO-Lanthar 110mm 2.5 and now I rarely use the Sony 135mm 1.8 !!! The Voigtländer 110mm are so good for any kind of photography and it is built like a tank, much better than the Sony. The Zeiss Batis APO Sonnar 135mm 2.8 have a much nicer size and weight.
Triumph! Nice one.
Tonelli name sounds like MAFIA name 😁 Nice video as always God bless and stay safe Fujifilm 😁😁
lol! Thanks and god bless as well 🙏
When Sony released their 135/1.8 G-Master more than four years ago, it became the sharpest lens in my bag. It might still be. Great focal length and aperture.
Back when I had the a7r4 the 135 gm and the 90mm are the sharpest lenses I’ve ever used. The only lens that went neck and neck with the 135gm was my zeiss 135 apo sonar.
Agree. Fantastic lens for the e mount
135 plena is 2x expensive than the 135gm.
@@sgpork yes but also the GM has been out for a few years
Bobby T out here taking advantage of mannequins! You got Plena'd 😁
Hahahaha 😂😂
Honest to god one of my favorite camera people to watch. Heads above everyone.
Its a hard decision for me to pick between 85 and 135 Z. It will be used for in studio talking head. So i'll probably go for the 85... but that 135 to use for "fake" macro would be extreme fun..
Thank you. That’s really kind of you to say 🙏🙏🙏
Funny you mentioned the macro. I tried it for some b roll and loved the look. 85 is more practical but the 135 is magic
@@btonelli welcome!
I try to bring in the same real world acitivies in my reviews after watching your channel for years.
Hearing about that macro video... Man.. Macro wildlife would be so fun. 😂📹
@@MannsWoodlandPerspective aww thanks! Macro wildlife!! 👍👍😊
You attend any photography conventions? Shutter fest? WPPI? PPA? super cool to meet ya one day! Luv your videos!
Hi! Unfortunately I haven’t so far. Maybe one day I will. Thanks for the support and kind words, much appreciated.
Nikon is hitting the Ball out the Park >> All others have a LOOONG way to go to even get half way to where Nikon is these days >> Canon's Version is not on the same Planet as the Plana
Nikon is doing really well, just two things they need to do. Make smaller lenses and fill out their shorter prime focal lengths. In regards to the Canon 135 they both are really good.
Hello Bobby, Yes its a great look lens, nice to see a comparison with the Canon. But I do not think yhis is a lens for me, (yet) I am saving for the new 600mm. Thank you for your thoughts.
No prob. I just got the 600 for review so that will be out soon
Great video! by the way you look awesome in Turkish dress.
Thanks! 🙏 that was unexpected haha
Not a Nikon shooter but this lens looks like a banger
Indeed. It’s quite special
I already have the 85 1.2 but this looks incredible.
Indeed. It’s a fantastic lens
Ok, Sigma, we are waiting for your turn...
Great lens!!! Great review!!!
Thank you. Yes waiting for that 135 update
The Turkish shop photoshoot.... Best place to show off the lens, Bobby. 😅
Haha gotta go with the flow! These are the magic moments we want in a lot of videos
Wonderful review! TY! Me personally would rather go for the 135 instead of the 85. Where’s your plug-ins? That you mentioned for LR CC
Thanks! I’m working on it now. Should be up in a couple days. The plug-ins are fantastic. Definitely speeds up the workflow
Now the decision making comes Plena or 85 1.2; not that the lens will be available (other than a couple here and there to meet the "late Oct" shipping mis-promise) in Canada for months and months. But wow that's another mighty fine lens in the Z lineup. Loved your experience in the shop! Cheers.
Thanks! Yes the shop owners were fantastic and very kind.
It’s a tough decision between the two. Both are optically fantastic
@@btonelli Have had the Plena for a few months now; my love is so very strong, I've not thought of the 85 again (yet) :)
@@merkin22 yes it’s an awesome lens
Hello Bobby. Nice video, thank you for making us happy)) Did you you buy Nikon Zf in your collection yet ?
Thanks! Not yet but seriously considering. It’s a fun camera to use and quite versatile.
I liked the review and the variety of shots you gave us. Aside from the bokeh, the contrast also seem to be different than other Nikon Z Lenses. I use the Nikkor Z 105 MC macro lens for Portraits etc and I feel like they have some similarities in terms of sharpness and contrast, but Plena has some intangible quality to it, which I can't describe.
Thank you. Yes the contrast is slightly less I feel from other Nikkor lenses. It does share some characteristics to the 105 but it has this gentle fall off to a very clean circular bokeh. Quite unique when you photograph with it. It’s special and haven’t used anything like this. Even the Otus doesn’t have this type of bokeh
@@btonelli can‘t wait to try it! Thanks again!
@@btonellijust the secret sauce I’ve been looking for. I want it to complement my tl35 on my tl2, and I’ve had my Nikon z5 laying around for over a year and haven’t found a worthy lens for it until now!
@@18yearsoldnot awesome!! Enjoy
Thanks, as always, for your initial thoughts and well tailored video. I know this is a crazy request, but I would be very curious to see the IQ of the 85mm f1.2 vs 135mm f1.8 vs 200mm f2. Just for grins. ;-) Thanks, and you are lucky, you don't need retouching!
Thanks!! I almost got my hands on the 200 f2 but it’s massive and Nikon doesn’t service it anymore. Yes that would be a fun IQ test for sure.
@@btonelli You're very welcome (as always). Yes, the 200 f2 is massive, heavy, built from steel, and not ergonomically right (poor foot, focus collar in the wrong place - where your hand sits). That said, as an amateur photographer a handful of years, it's the one lens that consistently gets me excited about shooting. The look of the images appears to be very close to the 135 PLENA. I had been wondering about how close the 135mm would be...and let's face it, once you need a walkie talkie to communicate with the person posing, adding another 1/2 mile isn't that much ;-) I completely understand why you'd go with the 85mm. Someday, in the future, I'll seriously consider one of them. Appreciate your efforts, as always. PS: Enjoyed the "warrior" in ya.
Looks amazing. For other platforms, make sure to check out the Samyang (or Rokinon) AF 135mm F1.8. And for those on a budget keep an eye out for a good deal on the older manual Samyang 135mm F2 for full-frame and APS-C. I have the latter on a Fuji body and the quality is incredible.
Haven’t tried the Samyang but heard good things about them.
@@btonelli DustinAbbott has done a good break down on both (on his RUclips and site). Btw Bobby, you don't need any Adobe filters for your photos, it takes away your natural charm. Great to see your channel and content grow.
I like Dustin’s content. Will check it out.
Thanks 😊 appreciate the kind words and support
Bobby what would you recommend at this point? Nikon Syztem or Son,y? Sony has a 135mm lens as well.
Depends on your needs. Nikon has definitely made strides especially in their tech, lens lineup and cameras. Sony is more mature in the mirrorless space. What I like about Sony is the system is more compact overall. Lenses and camera bodies are noticeably more compact which makes it easier to carry around. However Sony doesn’t really update their cameras that much so many of the newer features are given to new cameras and the top end cameras barely get substantial firmware updates.
With that said what I appreciate about Nikon is the upgrades they provide that are essentially mark II versions of a specific camera at no charge.
The push for better optics in all their lenses, sometimes at the behest of size
Their history and tapping on that like the new Zf.
Color science
Video performance now on the Z8 and Z9 bests the Sony consumer cameras.
@@btonelli thanks much. I was kinda going back and forth between the Z9 and Sony A7RV for weddings and portrait work.
@@curtw532 I like both cameras. The RV is a very versatile camera system with great image quality, solid video specs
The Z9 is larger but the Z8 is very close to the RV in many ways. I think at this juncture you gotta go with what feels good in your hands and features you will use more.
Great video! How does it compare to the 85 f/1.2?
Both are fantastic lenses but render a bit differently. One may say the 85 is slightly sharper but the bokeh on the Plena is just different. I prefer it more to the 85, but an 85mm is more versatile
Both superb, but if we're splitting hairs I think the Plena takes it when all factors are added in aggregate.
Indeed. I agree with this
Amazing lens. I wish they had a 105 mm Plena, because it would be a bit more useful for every day photography. If I was a pro, I'd definitely get this one.
Perhaps this will be a new line of lenses. 105 would be awesome. Like their DC Line
Do you use Lightroom for all your edits or maybe CO?
Primary Lightroom, Photoshop and once in a while CO
Very cool review. What’s your take on this lens on the Zf? Thanks!
Thanks. It’s good on the Zf but you will need a grip for the Zf to handle the size and weight
Wasn't the lens awkward on a small ZF?
You need a grip I feel. It’s not that bad but could use the support for the hand
Sigma art 135 1.8 with Ftz comes close, but for 1/2 or 1/3 price. :)
Yes very similar, but native mount lenses still reign supreme
Hi bobby i have the nikon z 50 f1.2 and am trying to decide which lens would be more versatile the 85 f1.2 or the plena thanks
Very tough decision. I find both of them absolutely stellar. The Plena to me is really special. Just depends if you are comfortable with a 135 focal length
@@btonelli Thanks Bobby i enjoy watching your channel for me quite informative i have been shooting my z 70-200 at 135 for a few days so i think it should be ok
@@StephenAkinlami thanks really appreciate you checking out my videos.
Bit the bullet and purchased the 135 plena thanks again for your review lens is great one other inquiry am also looking for a reasonably priced 512 gb cf express type b card for my z8 for photography only thanks@@btonelli
Thanks again Bobby i purchased the plena today i do have another inquiry i am looking for a reasonably priced cf express type b card for my z8 for mainly photography 512 gb or more thanks@@btonelli
Sweet Lens
Indeed
I wonder how this compares to the Nikon 35mm DC lens. That one is a beauty.
I’ve tried that lens. It’s very different. The bokeh on this is more circular and edge to edge brightness. Also this lens is sharper on the focus area
@@btonelli Thank you for your very quick reply.
Hey Bobby, what is your absolute favorite lens?
Out of which system?? There are many I like right now.
Nikon I have to say this lens and the 85 are my absolute favourites for primes follows by the 50 f1.2.
Leica: 35 SL APO and 50 APO
Fujifilm GF 55mm f1.7 and 110 f2
Hasselblad 80 1.9 and the 38 and 55
Canon: 135 f1.8 and 85 1.2
Sony: 50 1.2 and 70-200 f2.8 GM II
@@btonelli awesomeness, thanks Bobby 👍🏾
@@btonellihow does the RF 85 f1.2 compare to the Nikon? Have you noticed any differences in AF performance on bodies like the R5 vs Z8/Z9? And how do the 85's stack up to the 135's?
I owned the Sigma 135mm f1.8 and then the Sony 135mm f1.8 GM when I shot Sony (A7RIV). They had incredible compression but I found the fixed 135mm a very difficult focal length to shoot with.
Difference in AF isn’t much at all to be honest. Nikon has done some solid updates to close the gap.
Hard to compare the two as they render slightly different. The RF might have a bit more contrast and slightly less sharper? I mean slightly.
@@btonelli do you prefer one over the other in terms of rendering? Or between the two 135's and the two 85's? The RF 85 has been widely regarded as one of the best portrait lenses of all time (I own it and love it) but with the Plena design and "perfect" bokeh balls of some of the Nikon lenses I'm wondering if it is a noticeable difference in bokeh/rendering that makes you prefer the look of one over the other(s). Nikon is the only brand I've never shot with but with the release of the Z8 and their lens lineup I've been very interested in the brand.
That bokeh!!!
Indeed ❤️
What was the backpack you were using in Turkey??
Wotancraft 18L pilot
@@btonelli Thank youuu
@@theymstudio1387 no prob
JUST WWOOOOWWW
Indeed! Amazing lens
Does it auto focus ?
Yes it does :)
Is it better than the nikon 85 mm 1.2?
I like it better but it’s a longer focal length
Would have liked to see a comparison with the Canon lens on bokeh and fallout. That is after all the point of the lens.
Check out the Lightroom portion of the video :) I compare them
@@btonelli ah thanks. I skipped over that part.
Did you test plena with a zf? Jeez.
Yes I did. Definitely need a grip with the Zf for it :)
Wow look exactly like my 85 1.8 g lens on my nikon z6 u.u . Maybe because it’s upload here on RUclips and it’s lose quality . Ty for share !
Hmm well that’s a first haha. Thanks for watching
😊@@btonelli
What about the GM 135👀
Great lens. Renders beautifully but different than the Plena
Cheer. I appreciate the response. Keep up the good work.
@@ApertureViews thanks. Have a great weekend
Is it just me or the screen of the z9 look blue tinted like most led screen?
It’s slightly different but there is a color and lighting to take into account. It’s not like that in person
i see thks for the explanation@@btonelli
It's a great lens. But I have two issues with it: 135mm is too long for me (would want a 105mm f1.4) and it's just too expensive. The Sony 135mm f1.8 version can be had for half the price and is also amazing (have Nikon and Sony cameras).
Fair points. I could see a 105 1.2 Plena come into the picture. Much like the DC range of the past.
The Sony is great, but to be honest this is a better lens considering.
@@btonelli Probably great for people that like 135mm (I don't). Indoors I usually cannot get far enough away from my model with this lens and outdoors I need a megaphone to talk to my model. Unfortunately 105mm f1.4 lenses are rare (there's only the huge Sigma and the old Nikon F lens).
Would be nice if they brought back the 105
105 would be an ideal for me but don’t mind 135 but no VR for the price is a nooooo for me.
An American pronouncing Nikon the British way but still the Z the American way is freaking me out
I’m a man of many cultures
1.8 OK, So why do we need all the other f-stops?
Depends on light situation and the effect you want on an image.
I’ll stick with the Sigma at one third the price.
Fair enough. Optically very similar
With these lenses it isn't about sharpness, it's about smooth bokeh falloff, character etc...
@@musiqueetmontagne yes agree and I talk about that as well
I’ve never heard literally anybody pronounce Nikon that way
Hmm that’s how they pronounce it here in Asia. US says N eye Kon but that’s actually not the Japanese way of saying it
Bokeh? I have been shooting pic for over 50yrs, and never heard the Term until about 2 yrs ago, and Quite Frankly, really don't give a Rodent's Rectum about the Out of Focus areas. I am more concerned about getting the In Focus areas sharp.
Well this is sharp where you need it and has great fall off and background blur if you want it.
In the portrait at 10.20 minutes, in my opinion, there is no focus on the eyes- because of this, it is difficult to understand the exact sharpness. Again Nikon misses the focus on the eyes!
Hmm the eyes are sharp. Watch the video in 4K
I love how companies can come out with these lenses and all of a sudden everybody acts like its a new concept to make a 135mm at f1.8 aputure, "King of Bokeh" lol what died on that hill to give it that title? Another 135mm f1.8??? As if sigma didnt introduce it years ago. But we overlook it because it isnt "shiney and new" this is what I despise about the youtube tech community. This lens has been around for years! Cheaper and sharper at that, at nearly half the price! LOL
Actually what makes this lens special is the consistent bokeh from edge to edge, no vignetting and constant sharpness throughout the frame.
The other lenses are good, this one is just unique. I’ve tried them all and found this to be different.
Did you even watch the video?
I know photography is expensive but the prices Nikon charges for some of their Z lenses is not funny anymore. In Europe we have to pay 3000 Euro. That is 3264 USD if I check the latest exchange currency rates. I will stick to my Sigma 135mm 1.8.
Yes lenses are getting a bit pricey to be honest and creeping into a territory that makes it unattainable for some. Best to look for a mint second hand one
Do you really need aperture 1.8 for a 135mm Lens !? Recently I have looked at my photos taken with my Sony 135mm 1.8 GM, most of the photos are taken at 2.8 to 5.6, at aperture 2,8 there are plenty of "bokeh" !!! I do not like the big size and weight of the 135mm 1.8, in the spring I got the Voigtländer Macro APO-Lanthar 110mm 2.5 and now I rarely use the Sony 135mm 1.8 !!! The Voigtländer 110mm are so good for any kind of photography and it is built like a tank, much better than the Sony.
1.8 helps with low light and more depth of field if you are in a location and need to really blue out the background.
Sure we don’t need 1.8 all the time and for me I tend to be fine with 2.8 etc but if I want to really isolate a subject or person or want some good foreground blur I like it.
Everyone will have their own tastes and for some it’s not necessary, but when I was photographing in the bar, even 1.8 I had to crank up the ISO. 2.8 -5 would be too difficult
@@btonelli That is an extreme situation you describe, I would never go to a bar with my gear ! If you had the Zeiss Batis APO Sonnar 135mm 2.8 it has optical stabilizer in the Lens. It is also still allowed to use a tripod, even if is only is a pocket tripod. 1.8 to 2.5 is only one stop, so not a big deal to crank up the ISO !
@@cameraprepper7938 understand. I get it. It’s a 1.8 and you can stop down. It’s there when you need it. Like having sports car. Most won’t ever drive to the full potential of the car, but some like it for the potential and also the performance.
@@btonelli I have have had the Sony 135mm 1.8 GM since it came some years ago, I have rarely used aperture 1.8 and I do not think that image taken at 1.8 with a 135mm look pleasing, hence my use of (2.5) 2.8 to 5.6, what I really do not like with the 135mm 1.8 is the size and the weight. Now I am very happy with my Voigtländer 110mm. If I was to get a 135mm today, then the Zeiss Batis 135mm will be the first choice !
The Voigtländer 110mm is sharper at 2.5 and 2.8 than the Sony 135mm !!! The Voigtländer is an overlooked gem, but many are "scared" to use manual focus, I do manual focus 99.99% of the time because I want the focus to be exactly where I want !
Check out my Zf video. It’s all on manual focus with Voigtländer lenses
So listen, i buy the samyang 135...for under 1000 and i add bokeh blur in Camera Raw... And im cheaper with 1700 dollars.. Rip off
Camera raw won’t give you this. Tried it :)
You need to try 135mm f2 DC to see who is king of bokeh. Plena is overpriced.
I’ve also heard good things but the AF motors are prob better in the Nikon version vs the older Sigma
@btonelli Well, 135mm F2 DC is not a Sigma lens. It's a Nikon lens. I thought you would know that. There is only one in the world lens that has a DC option. It stands for defocus control. That means you can blur background even more than normal lens. In terms of AF motor, yes, it is a srewdrive lens, but I have no problem using this lens and getting sharp images. The lens is amazing and cheaper than new plena.
@@btonelli there is no Sigma version of this Nikon DC type lens. But no worries.
@@2klember sorry I misread. Was thinking the 135mm f1.8 from Sigma which many compared to the Plena
What a joke. Only the 35mm summicron v4 is the "king of bokeh".
Haha. I knew this would get some Leica users saying, “what??”
when you see this you may think differently
i think no differently. the bokeh is exceptional, but im loyal to my king :)
@@lottic much love to the OG “King of Bokeh”. Just wish the prices would stop going up so I can own one 😊
Plena - big, heavy, expensive with a stupid focal length. Too long for portraits, too short for tele work. Too expensive.
Some love the lens, some like yourself don’t see the need for it. No right or wrong just preference.
Essentially one can't tell where the photo was taken, inside a studio, by the pool, in the city, by a dumpster, sorry but this much bokeh is useless.
True to some extent but you can always stop down to see more of the surroundings. However if you want your subject isolated or in a location where the surroundings aren’t ideal having this type of lens takes away the distractions.
I agree with taking away distractions, but some of that distraction gives context, or at least an idea of the location, and not only OOF colorful discs, and smooth unrecognizable color shapes, and if we're going to stop down, then what is the point of buying a f/1.8 135mm lens in the first place. I think bokeh is blown out of proportion, and lens manufacturers are selling what the hype is dictating. Imagine traveling 5,000 miles to a different country and culture, only to take completely OOF photos. What would be the point? I hope you can see my point of view. Thanks for the reply.
@@karimnasser6886 I definitely see your point and agree to some extent, but for a lens like this it’s really meant for isolation of a subject and the pleasant bokeh that comes with it. Think of it like an artisan lens. It won’t be for everyday or for everyone but for those that want the uniqueness it offers it delivers.
Bokeh is overrated.
To some and to others they enjoy it.