As far as replacement options go, i recommend the sharpshooter 64 replacement stick. It's a replica of an original stick down to the optical sensors, and in my testing it works flawlessly and feels very close to an original stick, I still had to open it up and lube the stick, could probably even replace the bowl with one from kitsch bent for an even smoother feel, but so far its the best replacement by far that i've tried.
@@Xpnvh it should work, but not all sticks can be saved with them, I've had at least 2 stick modules that the new parts couldn't fix. but when it works it works quite good.
@@Xpnvh chances are it will. just dont forget to buy silicone grease as well, you have to lube up the parts. some light sand paper as well to smooth any plastic flash
It looks like there are two versions of that repair box replacement stick. An older version, which has a pinhole in the stick, is very sensitive and difficult use. The newer version has a rubber grip on top and was fine tuned with better results.
steelsticks64 is hands down the best option ever. kitch-bent is Ok but it has some notches and their sticks often get stuck in a certain direction. (but you can fix that buy grinding alittle and lube it enough) Steelstiicks64 are also very unlikely to get
Suggestion: you should've tested the sensitivity of movement in Super Mario 64 to show whether or not these new analog sticks skip values (like jumping from 0 to 50 and from 50 to max value without reading in between values of the analog stick) and also could show your controller while playing to display whether or not there's input delay.
Yeah, any experience I've had with aftermarket sticks or controllers has had a noticeable lack in degrees of functionality. To me, that renders them useless, and would much rather use original sticks
these are not aftermarket joystick assemblies. These are the original OEM joysticks. He's refurbishing the original assembly. The concerns asking this question do not exist in this repair. How do you know what you're talking about and yet have no clue at the same time.
@@robcabob1og That was only the first option. All the other options completely replace the optical sensor based joysticks with potentiometer based ones. How do you know what you're talking about and yet have no clue at the same time?
Nice video. I was actually just looking for a video to see why they get loose, and then I was going to look up replacements. You answered both in one! Would have been cool to see you open up the third party one from wish and just use the parts in your oem one. Could have done something similar as the first one, unless the pieces are completely different. If they all fit, it would have looked OEM unlike the first one with the clear joystick.
Finally got this used n64 working. The controller basically can't run forward in mario 64. Probably gonna go with kitsch bent. I don't think its gonna change the fact that using an n64 joystick in 2024 is kinda uncomfortable. Got used to using a GameCube or Wii classic contrller throughout the year. I heard the hall effect or gamecube style joysticks dont register the same making movement odd
but there is one question i like to ask you,is the garbage 3 party controller replacemend with the same interior like the original? becouse then you could use the new parts also when you disasamble it.so could you pls take a look at the inside of that thing?
Nice video, would personally prefer to keep it as close to original as possible. How can you get a Kitsch-bent kit? Link doesn’t work. Hopefully they have an oem looking stick.
New to fixing retro items, but loving the journey so far, and wanted to know what the joystick tracing program was that you used? Was it a cartridge for the N64 or was it a rom you were running on your computer? How did you get the controller connected to your computer?
Sure, this is a ROM that I used. github.com/sanni/controllertest/tree/master/N64-Port I own a Z64, which is a device that allows me to play ROMs on an actual N64 console. You could use the same rom on flash carts like the Everdrive as well.
@Yoda Godda I think by now I have tried every single joystick on the market I even found the older versions none of which have any where near decent deadzone :( literally the only way I can think of is buying a factory sealed (goodluck) n64 controller or what I'm doing which is using one of the Xboxish style n64 controllers
@Yoda Godda The ones i have i put through a n64 joystick tester and found that the one i have that looks like a gamecube controller has an wide octagon shape wich is nearly perfect, and the n64 looking controller is fully square which doesn't work very well for games like mario or goldeneye.
Thank you! 🙂 I only ask you to get white gloves 🧤 next time. Because, I watched video, look at black gloves and remember movies about killers 😵 I don’t know why so, but it big discomfort to look at this gloves.
I do NOT recommend third party controllers from Amazon. Especially the USB ones. They are made so cheaply, I've bought 2 and they broke 3 days in using them. Just from tapping the A-Button, the membrane ripped and made the A button stick. They are typically REALLY garbage.
Unfortunately the original gray stick is part of what wears out. The stick, bowl, and both gears should be replaced for a fully working joystick. I haven't been able to find any replacements that look like the original gray. :-(
I haven't done done this myself, but I'm pretty positive you can reuse the original stick. It seems to be that the gear arms and bowl wear down the most, while the stick itself looks almost untouched.
A SteelStick is the absolute best option, but unless you Mario Party Like it's 1999™, plastic bowls and gear arms, with silicone oil, are perfectly fine for most people.
It's NOWHERE NEAR as bad as stick drift. In fact, it's more like the opposite, where it gets hard to make movement at all, plus it's FAR easier to replace the worn parts here than a worn potentiometer.
From what I hear, no I recommend you watch this video by My life in gaming that talks about the GameCube style replacement control stick. ruclips.net/video/o3GYtAyRCOo/видео.html
Petroleum based lubricants will actually degrade the plastic over time. For plastic pieces it's recommended to use silicon based products, like the one I have in the video.
I wasn't a fan either, which is why I recommended the Kitch-Bent replacement parts, which are build to replace the worn out parts on the original joystick.
@@LastHeartGames Yeah I understand but there is way to repair the original Analog stick. Just saying to replace the entire analog stick or the entire controller is just ridiculous. Some people knows this option are available there's no need for video like this.
@@roger285 Your missing the point of the video. The video was meant to show you all the different analog repair options. He showed us how to fix the sticks and how to replace the sticks. Some people don’t want to repair the original sticks, so he was giving alternative options. But I agree. Repairing the original sticks is the best option because all the replacement sticks suck. So now that you know the point of the video, please remove your dislike and show this man the respect he deserves for this great video tutorial. Thanks for reading and have a good day kind sir.
@@LastHeartGames I really apologized I honestly don't remember why I said this. It was probably during finals week, I was probably cranky. Is that I really got butthurted when I saw this video because I was thinking like he going to show me solution to what I wanted which repairing the actual analog stick. But than I saw the replacement gamecube analog stick for Nintendo 64. That's when I got butthurted 😂 It was good video though and pretty clear the instructions. I'm just not a big fan of the gamecube analog, I actually despise it. Sorry about last comments though.
Fantanstick quality video and audio wise. I was shocked to see the low sub count. Keep up the great work!
Another option is SteelSticks64. They get expensive REALLY fast, but it is said to be one of the most accurate and long lasting solutions out there
Thanks for the suggestion! I'll have to check them out.
Are they even available? They look great, but their twitter is inactive and their website seems similarly out of date
@@coolpikachufan01 they’re so in demand that they’re near impossible to get.
As far as replacement options go, i recommend the sharpshooter 64 replacement stick. It's a replica of an original stick down to the optical sensors, and in my testing it works flawlessly and feels very close to an original stick, I still had to open it up and lube the stick, could probably even replace the bowl with one from kitsch bent for an even smoother feel, but so far its the best replacement by far that i've tried.
@@Xpnvh it should work, but not all sticks can be saved with them, I've had at least 2 stick modules that the new parts couldn't fix. but when it works it works quite good.
@@Xpnvh chances are it will. just dont forget to buy silicone grease as well, you have to lube up the parts. some light sand paper as well to smooth any plastic flash
I'd say it's still worth having a look inside the Wish replacement joystick. You might be able to repurpose the gears and bowls.
It looks like there are two versions of that repair box replacement stick. An older version, which has a pinhole in the stick, is very sensitive and difficult use. The newer version has a rubber grip on top and was fine tuned with better results.
steelsticks64 is hands down the best option ever. kitch-bent is Ok but it has some notches and their sticks often get stuck in a certain direction. (but you can fix that buy grinding alittle and lube it enough)
Steelstiicks64 are also very unlikely to get
I plan on getting the kitsch bent stick soon. Until then, I’m saving my money and I’ve decided to use the tape method
I just bought 4 sets of joystick, bowl, and gears and it was $30...
What's the tape method???
Suggestion: you should've tested the sensitivity of movement in Super Mario 64 to show whether or not these new analog sticks skip values (like jumping from 0 to 50 and from 50 to max value without reading in between values of the analog stick) and also could show your controller while playing to display whether or not there's input delay.
Yeah, any experience I've had with aftermarket sticks or controllers has had a noticeable lack in degrees of functionality. To me, that renders them useless, and would much rather use original sticks
these are not aftermarket joystick assemblies. These are the original OEM joysticks. He's refurbishing the original assembly.
The concerns asking this question do not exist in this repair.
How do you know what you're talking about and yet have no clue at the same time.
@@robcabob1og That was only the first option. All the other options completely replace the optical sensor based joysticks with potentiometer based ones. How do you know what you're talking about and yet have no clue at the same time?
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Thank you so much - My controllers feel like brand new!
Nice video. I was actually just looking for a video to see why they get loose, and then I was going to look up replacements. You answered both in one! Would have been cool to see you open up the third party one from wish and just use the parts in your oem one. Could have done something similar as the first one, unless the pieces are completely different. If they all fit, it would have looked OEM unlike the first one with the clear joystick.
Finally got this used n64 working. The controller basically can't run forward in mario 64. Probably gonna go with kitsch bent. I don't think its gonna change the fact that using an n64 joystick in 2024 is kinda uncomfortable. Got used to using a GameCube or Wii classic contrller throughout the year. I heard the hall effect or gamecube style joysticks dont register the same making movement odd
Thanks for the link but too bad they are out of stock on the kitsch store.
Very helpful video. Thank you!
but there is one question i like to ask you,is the garbage 3 party controller replacemend with the same interior like the original? becouse then you could use the new parts also when you disasamble it.so could you pls take a look at the inside of that thing?
Nice video, would personally prefer to keep it as close to original as possible. How can you get a Kitsch-bent kit? Link doesn’t work. Hopefully they have an oem looking stick.
They were apparently offline for awhile when the owner was sick but the site is currently back up!
another good guide thanks !
New to fixing retro items, but loving the journey so far, and wanted to know what the joystick tracing program was that you used? Was it a cartridge for the N64 or was it a rom you were running on your computer? How did you get the controller connected to your computer?
Sure, this is a ROM that I used.
github.com/sanni/controllertest/tree/master/N64-Port
I own a Z64, which is a device that allows me to play ROMs on an actual N64 console. You could use the same rom on flash carts like the Everdrive as well.
I wish u could just buy a module with the original design all the ones ive tried are horrible and the gc one has an ungoddly deadzone
@Yoda Godda I think by now I have tried every single joystick on the market I even found the older versions none of which have any where near decent deadzone :( literally the only way I can think of is buying a factory sealed (goodluck) n64 controller or what I'm doing which is using one of the Xboxish style n64 controllers
@Yoda Godda The ones i have i put through a n64 joystick tester and found that the one i have that looks like a gamecube controller has an wide octagon shape wich is nearly perfect, and the n64 looking controller is fully square which doesn't work very well for games like mario or goldeneye.
They're literally preparing the original joystick with OEM spec parts. This is as close to the original you will get because it is original
Thank you! 🙂 I only ask you to get white gloves 🧤 next time. Because, I watched video, look at black gloves and remember movies about killers 😵 I don’t know why so, but it big discomfort to look at this gloves.
I do NOT recommend third party controllers from Amazon. Especially the USB ones. They are made so cheaply, I've bought 2 and they broke 3 days in using them. Just from tapping the A-Button, the membrane ripped and made the A button stick.
They are typically REALLY garbage.
Thank you, you rock!!!!! N64 4 life skrrt
i need to find how to loosen the joystick
Two words:
Mario Party
Thats not fixing, thats replacing
i want to do something simular to this but how do you know what parts you need to fix the original joystick
Can you use the original gray stick instead of the clear replacement on the first method shown?
Unfortunately the original gray stick is part of what wears out. The stick, bowl, and both gears should be replaced for a fully working joystick. I haven't been able to find any replacements that look like the original gray. :-(
I haven't done done this myself, but I'm pretty positive you can reuse the original stick. It seems to be that the gear arms and bowl wear down the most, while the stick itself looks almost untouched.
this is a bandaid that will only last so long.
Get a Steelstick 64 instead., Problem solved for good.
A SteelStick is the absolute best option, but unless you Mario Party Like it's 1999™, plastic bowls and gear arms, with silicone oil, are perfectly fine for most people.
Hi thank you for the video what rom are you using to test the controllers?
8:33 Does this one have the same gearing as the original?
How you do the benchmark?
can you send a link to that test rom?
I didn't get this right. If the output results are way further than the original N64, is it something good or bad?
From what I understand, It makes no difference when the results are further, it's only bad when the outputs don't reach the corners.
It most likely means the sticks are too sensitive and it'll be harder to make precise movements.
This N64 Control Stick problem might be akin to Joy-Con Drift.
It's NOWHERE NEAR as bad as stick drift. In fact, it's more like the opposite, where it gets hard to make movement at all, plus it's FAR easier to replace the worn parts here than a worn potentiometer.
Does the GameCube joystick work well?
From what I hear, no I recommend you watch this video by My life in gaming that talks about the GameCube style replacement control stick.
ruclips.net/video/o3GYtAyRCOo/видео.html
hori mini pad and tribute 64 have a gc style stick that's mapped pretty accurately and works really well
>calling the black controller "dark gray"
are you enhancing the sounds? like some asmr shit? man i cant stand that stuff
Use the petroleum jelly to lessen the friction.
Petroleum based lubricants will actually degrade the plastic over time. For plastic pieces it's recommended to use silicon based products, like the one I have in the video.
I put thumbs down because I really like the original Nintendo 64 controller thumbstick and I don't like the gamecube analog stick at all.
I wasn't a fan either, which is why I recommended the Kitch-Bent replacement parts, which are build to replace the worn out parts on the original joystick.
@@LastHeartGames Yeah I understand but there is way to repair the original Analog stick. Just saying to replace the entire analog stick or the entire controller is just ridiculous. Some people knows this option are available there's no need for video like this.
@@roger285 stfu
@@roger285 Your missing the point of the video. The video was meant to show you all the different analog repair options. He showed us how to fix the sticks and how to replace the sticks. Some people don’t want to repair the original sticks, so he was giving alternative options. But I agree. Repairing the original sticks is the best option because all the replacement sticks suck.
So now that you know the point of the video, please remove your dislike and show this man the respect he deserves for this great video tutorial. Thanks for reading and have a good day kind sir.
@@LastHeartGames I really apologized I honestly don't remember why I said this. It was probably during finals week, I was probably cranky.
Is that I really got butthurted when I saw this video because I was thinking like he going to show me solution to what I wanted which repairing the actual analog stick. But than I saw the replacement gamecube analog stick for Nintendo 64. That's when I got butthurted 😂
It was good video though and pretty clear the instructions. I'm just not a big fan of the gamecube analog, I actually despise it. Sorry about last comments though.