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SPEAKERS: Pearl Acoustics Sibelius CG -Thomas & Stereo follow-up
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- Опубликовано: 14 авг 2024
- Have you seen Thomas & Stereo's Sibelius review? GO WATCH IT FIRST!
• Sibelius speakers revi...
Seen it? Liked it? Now you can watch this video. I share my adventure with the same pair of speakers in my two scenarios. WARNING, VIDEO is a bit shaky at times. I will avoid doing this going forward.
Interested to know more? Check out Pearl Acoustics video and channel.
• The story of the Sibel...
Hi Loic, Harley here! Thank you so much for sharing your opinion on our Sibelius loudspeakers - I am just so happy you engaged with them in the way I do too. I have been living with them for so long now, that it just seems normal. So, it's super exciting to hear other people's first reactions, especially when they are as funny and honest as yours!
I hope we can meet up one day (I am a guitarist too) - very amateur, for my ears only, or very small crowds with videos off :-)
Im also a video-off kind of guitarist. But if we met, I’d bring a guitar ;-)
Thank you for making a such a wonderful contribution to our musical lives.
@@hificave you’re very welcome! See you one day!
I worked for Harley in the UK. These are quite special. 1st pair I installed replaced magnepan 3.7. Unlike the vast majority of speaker's available these have sounded fantastic in every room and show i did with them.. The cabinets are incredibly inert, one of the best at "disappearing" at any price. Bass extension in room will surprise you. What these do is allow you enjoy ALL of your music.
So glad to see Harley getting recognition, for these special speakers.
Well said!
Some time ago I had the chance to listen to Sibelius installed in a small untreated room connected to a modest NAD amp and turntable.
Well it sounded more natural than my main Quad system.
This is truly an hidden gem in hifi.
My 2 cents
"Seeing" music is called "Synesthesia" and is an ability I've had all of my life (I'm sixty-two). Synesthesia is a rare phenomenon wherein two of a person's senses are combined such as hearing and seeing sound, vocals, and music. You're one rare dude. It greatly aids one in evaluating music and gear. One can see sounds as abstract shapes and colors in space and time in the mind's eye. Enjoy your gift! John C Carroll, Peace!
It's good to have two perspectives, because not many people have a dedicated accoustic room. Seems to be very good speakers.
How does it sound with vinyl? Because I am into vinyl and phono cartridges.
For the record, I'm 100% down with you doubling up on reviews via Thomas's loaners!
Hahaha, Once in a while. Like in this case. When I find something to be special and I have time and the ideas to add to what is already said and make it entertaining.
That song you played at the end of the video was sooo moving, soooo emotional, it had me in tears! :)
I'm glad to hear that speakers like the Sibelius exist, even though I will most likely never be able to afford them.
It gives me a better perspective on what to aim for in what I CAN afford.
I also appreciate how you auditioned them in two different room setups. It feels more honest and "real-world".
You can afford the Mark Audio drivers. I'm sure there are designs out there where you can get a similar performance for much less cost.
Thanks very much for the follow-up to Thomas’s review. Highly enjoyable. The humour’s great! I ordered the Sibelius in December based on the demo video posted in Thomas’s Patreon site and received the speakers a week ago. You guys are spot on! My partnering components are Terminator Plus DAC, Convergent Audio Technology Legend BPX preamp and JL5BPLE amp and there’s exceptional synergy there. Playing back vinyl on a Linn LP12 through the Sibelius is magical too…
oh!! I would just sit and play record after record with a bottl..ahem, glass of wine with what you just described.
I have had single drivers speakers (Lowthers) for 50 years same cabinets but newer drivers.
I really feel a Tannoy dual concentric soul....I guess they use the same physical principle in their construction.
I own a pair of vintage Cheviots..greetings!
Awesome performance at the end. Thanks!
The way you describe a carpenter made me cry. In a few years the craftmanship needed to transform six panels in a box wil be gone. Omg. let's hope these guys stay with us in our lifetime. Lefitime? What about the future of coffins?
I might be wrong but I think that is it pronounced with four distict syllables . . . Si be li us. Like the classical composer.
It's not pronounced "Sibelus", it's "Sibel-i-us". Jean Sibelius is a very famous classical composer. I realize you are Mr. Jazz, but Sibelius is a pretty famous guy. Or was.
I am not mr Jazz :) and I even hint at my pronunciation in my opening credits. ;)
You should also learn how to spell pronUnciation@@hificave
Wrong. It’s Leviosa… not Leviosar.
@@kas4751 Ha!
"Sibaylius"
Si-bell-eee-yus.....Just found your channel, good stuff....subbed!
Great follow-up to Thomas' review. I am saving my pennies for something special in a few years, but I haven't decided what it will be and the decision will be scary as it's way more expensive than any audio equipment I've ever purchased in my life. The more I hear about the Sibelius speakers the more interested I am. What stands out to me is how it appears that, in general, people who listen seem to just enjoy the music, forgetting about the gear, and to me that is my ultimate goal. On top of that they are stunningly beautiful, and it seems a real bonus that they sound so good in a variety of rooms, but still vastly reward room treatments and proper placement. A very interesting product indeed.
Its a very special speaker, and the real wood cabinet (if you like the wood look) is just beautiful.
Another great review! Always funny and engaging. Thanks!
I’m loving your videos. Keep up the great work!
Did you try these with your REL subwoofers?
Not with rels, but tried with low cost subs using high level taps directly to the spkr terminals (like a rel does) and kept the xover on the subs at 50hz with low level. So the subs stayed very shy in terms of instruments and more for room effect, increasing depth and airiness. Was really nice! But the Sibelius are already amazing on their own.
@@hificave Thanks. I would think that's a good way to do it to keep the sub from being conspicuous or messing with the Sib's virtues. I'm tempted to try the Sib but I hate to buy a major audio component that I haven't at least heard briefly with my own ears. That's especially true of speakers, which have so many aspects to their sound.
Sih-bail-ee-us... Named after the famous Finnish composer, Jean Sibelius. As your penance for continually murdering his name, you must go listen to him. Do it! Do it now!
indeed, that's why I put that line in the intro credits. as I realized after filming I had butchered it bad.. now I will go listen to Jean Sibelius for the next week and fully understand who and what this person has done for music.
@@hificave You are a good and honorable man.
So the intention of your system is that the subs throw the pressure from behind on your open baffle membranes? I think that is not a great placement. But open baffle is not great for me anyway. Physics can be heard 😊
I bet the Sibelius is a great and hard to beat speaker for listening to natural music with lots of instruments and voices. I have to check them but the physics should make them very dynamic and loud. Bass is well designed and the housing works. So she should stil go deep. But what I like to hear is the doppler-effect of full range drivers that again is physically given and how it affects the sound.
Ciao,bel video,anche se non ce li hai fatti sentire. Sono semplici bass reflex o linea di trasmissione/tromba? 🇮🇹
What brand of diffusers do you use? Did you buy them here in Canada? Thanks. PS: great video!
DIY, I used patterns I found online for the range of frequencies I was aiming at diffusing for different reflection points.
Thanks for the insight! I am considering these, Decware DIY Lii Audio F15, Caintuck Lii Audio F15, or possibly Caintuck smaller driver (8 or 12). Your influence is strong! Ha ha. Tekton Lore Reference were the front runners, but the new system will go in our living room, so the aesthetic is now a factor. I’m an acoustic jazz fan that will not miss the loss of strong low frequency bass. That’s just my personal preference. Thanks again!
The aesthetics with the speakers you mention, if you are a fan of wood, the si elius are top! The tektons can be also but at a price (custom design) and waiting period. The lii audio are big. But, I loooooove them. :)
Thanks for sharing your reactions. How even is their dispersion? In other words, when you stand up or move about the room, do they still sound good? How wide is the sweet spot for good imagining? Thanks 🙏
In my room, it did. But, to be honest I was always listening sitting down with the sole purpose of listening. So take this for what its worth.
Given how shallow the cone profile is, it should be decent, still limited in the higher frequencies of course
You should release your music and get QRP to press it to vinyl on 2lp 45rpm.
It would sound phenomenal on that system. 😉
Great video. What are you top 2 dac’s these days?
Been out of the game for 8 months. But my custom musical paradise mk3 dac… with jupiter caps, linlai 6sn7, purle fuse, battery powered clock, super rectifier. Musical heaven. In commercial ones tho, i have a soft spot for the denatrips pontus and venus dacs. I dunno, they have a tone I just love and are good enough on all other fronts. Would love to try a lampizator tho…
Is there more info on the construction and internal design of the cabinet? Otherwise it just sounds like "musician puts Mark Audio driver in a box and says it sounds like music, trust me because I've been playing for 50 years"
I would encourage you to email Harley at Pearl acoustics.
I'm jealous you got to audition these!
Very much enjoyed the room tour and review.
Question:
In a couple of MrT videos I noticed that you have the MUSICAL PARADISE MP 701mk2....
I'm considering it as a preamp for my Bryston 3b sst and LRS/REL system.
Could you review it, or comment on your experience with tube/cap rolling this preamp please?
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I used the pre-amp for maybe 2 weeks. I cant say too much at this point in time, but I enjoyed it for those two weeks. I mean, value is very high as you can roll tubes, caps, fuses in the pre-amp to take it another level and several gain level adjustments to fine tune the matching with different amps. The only issue I had, was the volume motor I could hear through the speakers but my speakers are 98db of sensitivity at the time so any noise they picked up.
@@hificave Thanks for sharing your limited experience.
I know that you appreciate the Musical Paradise approach to component rolling, since you did a lot of it with their DAC.
I've had this preamp for nearly six months now.
For now I have settled on the V-Caps for transparency and occasionally swap to Mundorfs SGO supreme for a little more romance.
I did experience noise issues at first, but discovered that I needed to use a shielded signal cable to the amplifier, as recommended by the designer. I also quickly removed the stock tubes in favor of some NOS 12au7, a 12sn7 & 5u4g rectifier. The lower gain tubes eliminate noise . My system noise is now insignificant.
However the tonally saturated 3D sound is just beautiful....
I love the sound now!
Thanks Loic
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So it feels as if the Sibelius is the new Sonus Faber (20 yrs ago) ? (wood hand craftship, natural instrument sound) hmmmm..
Hey i didnt know this was your channel !!
subscribed!
Thanks for subbing!
@@hificave 😃
🤗THANKS LOIC …FOR SHARING YOUR EXPERIENCE 😍 AND I HOPE SOMEDAY TO EXPERIENCE YOUR SYSTEM
😁AND IT IS OKAY TO JUST ENJOY THE MUSIC 😱🎶 AND THE SIBELIUS LET YOU DO THAT 🤗😍😍😍
As always - pleasant and entertaining content Loic, thanks a bunch !
PS: how did the speakers behavied with the low powered tube amps ? (with 87 db and all)
I was skeptic at first also, but no issues! It’s one driver only. If it was several and larger drivers per speaker plus crossovers, would be a bit different I am sure.
Was the song you played at the end Blackbird?
Wow! On the first note! You are good
What speakers are set up in the background of this video? Loved the video!
Lii-song f15, in open baffle.
Funny video. 👍
That was a new thing.
When we record a instrument with a microphone. Then we get the sound of the instrument AND the reverberation of the room/church or whatever also if it were recorded outside then we get NO room.
So it is great to be able to hear the location were the recording were done and the decision of the recording engineer on how far or near he place the microphone (closer less room and more instrument and vice versa)
So now we take and use Sibelius to reproduce those events in the bass.
There is where all fall apart (for the bass reproduction when it ADD its own sounds on top of what were recorded is what you guys saying.)
If we call it musical or whatever and that reviewers like that "colouration" is a different story.
Strange it is hard to understand how a speaker that add (it is in practice what it does) it own sound on top of what has been recorded.
How that mush of sounds can sound like the real instrument (in the bass region) when it doesn't sounded like that when captured.
But it is me overanalyzing and that is probably NOT a speaker for me then.. 🤣🎶🥰🎵🎼
I need a glass of wine to try and conttibute to this comment. Let me reflect on this. :-)
Can you repeat that in English?
@@crazyprayingmantis5596 Sorry I am not a native English and this is not my primary language so I can't describe it better..
@@AmazonasBiotop
I thought English wasn't your first language, I was having a joke.
I understand what you're trying to say, you write English way better than I could write any other language. 👍
Perhaps by adding colouration, it makes everything sound like a certain instrument.
For example, if you put the Mark Audio driver in a guitar, then the music would sound very much like guitars are in your room when played back with similar instruments.
It won't be accurate to the source but it may sound "like real music".
People who like this tend to want to "bring the musicians into the room" rather than turn their room into the venue the music was actually played at
So sorry Loic I never replied to your reply on my comments re speakers. If you remember I have a pair of Westminster Royals, with the 4 Rel's, I'm pretty sure they're up there with the best horns on the planet not because of their cabinet construction which is superb but because of the drivers. I remember another speaker around the 80's-90's that had single driver no crossover array, for the life of me I cannot remember it's name, which heralded a single point source driver that sounded fantastic. But like anything there is a trade of having one speaker to do it all. I'm not sure but it looks like the Sibelius is a TL which produces lots of bass, I did have TDL's years ago, but a the cost of speed and timing ie the wave front is slightly behind the mid and treble . Secondly there's the treble which rolls off quite significantly on the top because of speed which also was the criticism of that other manufacturer. I'm not a fan of one driver speakers because one driver can't do it all. You asked me about my other bits so the turntable is Dohmann Helix 1 V2 the amps I've changed as I've got a little fed up with the SET sound. So I have a pair of GM70's push pull, think 845's on steroids, amps. And the gorgeous Nagra transport and Dac. One of my pet peeve's is cable that looks like is should run under roads to carry massive amounts of current. So I have a mixture of Audionote silver and Audience cables. I'm sure somebody will jump in a disagree with everything I've said which is fine. We all have are own opinions which is what it is. but to add fuel to the fire one more thing triodes do a better job in a pp amp than a pentode or tetrode.. So a 845,211,6b4g,300b and the GM70/90 or whatever sound way better than their counterparts compared to the el34 and so on in pp mode 🙂. I'm ducking because of incoming lol
i love my fullrange jolies, would love to hear these
Funny vid. And got me curious.
It's normal, we all find the back of our heads looks like crap right?
I wonder how the Sibelius compares to the Totem Tribe Tower that have no crossovers either.
It would be an interesting comparison
What I want to know is, can they deliver Detroit Techno....🔈🔈🔉🔊
ohh, good question, what track should I start with?
@@hificave This for starters = ruclips.net/video/bHTtuASm3DA/видео.html
@@simonirvine1628 I didnt own Sibelius but I am using Mark audio driver for several years, they are polite and not very dynamic, but very fast
Loic, if you sip on the bottom rack, you’ll give Sibelius 10/10. THATS what is reducing the sound stage!
Haaaaaaaah!! :-)
What model of Decware Amp was that? Btw, lovely video!!
Zen TORII Mk 5.
Range of 3 to 4 inch full range drivers .This is just a folded voit pipe design in a v v good price and quality.
Sibelius sound nice.I really like their sound.But not as much as my decware Zenmasters.😊
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@@hificave
Had a chance to compare them next to each other a while ago.
Performance of that little driver in that oak Sibelius cabinet is amazing though.Beautiful crafted too.
What struck me was their preference for Sugden.They truly came to life on Sugden A21 SE.
what's with the funny noise when you mentioned Thomas picture lol I would have thought you would have played the exclamation mark from splinter cell
I think the croft acoustic amplifier would sound excellent with those speakers ever tried a croft?
why you think diffusion is the answer! absorption at the first reflection points not diffusion
Its absorption at the first reflection points :-) did I say diffusion? Ooops
@@hificave ok!
Very interesting content but, . . . the handheld camera swinging around makes this unwatchable for me. I feel bad jumping in and leaving a critical comment, but the shaky, wildly swinging around scenery is a serious problem that completely knocks out viewership for certain videos, and indeed whole channels. I offer this comment in an attempt to be helpful. I'm sorry it's coming from a position of disappointment. I would really like to watch this channel, but there's simply no way I can with the current shaky handheld video technique.
I agree. :)
@@hificave Forgive me for not taking care of this in the original comment, but I should have said, "the shakiness makes it unwatchable FOR ME." I know other people aren't going to have a problem with it. But just for reference, I left this kind of comment on videos at Z Reviews and J. Kenji López-Alt too. Both are channels I would absolutely love to watch, but can't due to the extreme dizziness that their head-mounted camera video technique causes me. I've tried just listening, but it's a major drawback to "watching" a video if you're removing the video aspect of it.
@@AndyBHome I completely understand. Thank you for that feedback.
very cool video..Nice real world perspective on things. As for DAC's check out Mojo Audio Mystique X SE D/A Converter..You will drool
Isn't there an exotic cat poo that makes for great coffee?
Yes there is!
@@ThomasAndStereo I think there is elephant poo also that makes for expensive coffee...
Single driver in a box, no crossovers, perhaps the route to the purest sound, and I appreciate the time and effort to bring them to fruition, but its hard to justify the price for the cost to manufactire, IMO.
When you put it so simply, I understand. There is often a layer or two of costs tho that we dont realize. Maybe…
Nice work!
Is that a db meter on your ceiling?!
yes it is. it just helps me keep a level matched when I swap gear, when I face different gains, etc. helps give me a point of reference. and also helps remind me, I don't go too loud on some late nights while everyone is sleeping. :)
@@hificave Brilliant!!
A goddess on a mountain top
Was Burning like a silver flame
The summit of beauty and love
And Venus was her name
She's got it
Yeah baby, she's got it
Mariska ❤
How about sending them to G.R. research on upgrades ?
Kidding. i dont
Sweet you say? Then try the old yellow Vifa 10BGS, it's the most sweet sounding wide range unit, you can feel that female singers saliva is actually honey lol
I have Mark Audio drivers, Sibelius uses them, so they are no match for those Vifas in sweetness, but Vifa needs a tweeter from 6000Hz or a up or rear firing supertweeter
A great site about full range units and tube amps is "Glow in the dark audio"
Hi, what Decware model You reffering to?
Zen tori
Interestingly the mark audio drivers in these speakers are worth about $150. Different box design plans from them are free. Just sayin! Get 🔨 ! 90% for 10%
You should go ahead and try that. Let us know how it works out.
are you sure it doesn't have a crossover?? how do you know it doesn't?
The designer says they dont. Also written on the pearl acoustics site.
@@hificave ok
Sib-BAY-lee-us is how I *think* their name is pronounced? Like the composer ...
Yes it is sir. :-)
See the sound? Man, I smelled the colour 9 when I meat HER so yes, I think you are fully capable of seeing sound 😁
How do they sound at lower SPL? Thanks
Decent. with the right amp.
10 Grand a pair? Some of those type drivers can be that much. Like the Feastrex 5" drivers that cost that and their field core variants can cost 70 grand a pair for the 8" field core drivers. This builder doesn't make his own drivers, he buys them.
They are Mark Audio drivers a variant specific for Pearl acoustics.
Buy Markaudio-chn-110, put them in a 25 liter cabinet and you will be satisfied for 1/10 of the price of the Sibelius. If someone needs details let me know.
Snake oil smells fishy
There is a magic to full range single drivers and class A amplifiers
Especially if you’re older and you’re hearing range is nonexistent above 15,000 kHz.
I’m in that majority approaching 60 my hearing rolls off at 12,000 kHz and 100% stone deaf after 15,000 kHz.
Single full range speakers are now Manna sent from heaven Life is so simple now
Sabellus? Isn't the right pronounciation "Sigh-be-lius"?
Si - Bay - Lee - Us.
Yes, check out the second video from this year.
Sibelius Speakers by Pearl Acoustics, Single Driver Masterpiece, BUT Can it PLAY METALLICA?
ruclips.net/video/Xptn2WszhE8/видео.html
@@hificave Thanks! Don't really care about METALLICA. Can it play Mahler?
you know... like the world-famous famous composer.... si bey lee us
Whats your favorite of all his compositions?
You might at least learn how to pronounce SIBELIUS even if you don't have the basic musical knowledge to understand who he was!
Peter Green: 1 Me: 0 Which of his compositions do you recommend? So far I have listened to Symphony no. 2 performed by the Iceland symphony orchestra, and Finlandia which is breathtaking. I will go through the entire repertoire but curious to know if you have any you personally like.
Babbling Hifi😅. Sorry …Just sayin.