The wrist gaiter frayed then failed over the 1st season of use. Norrona tried to repair it, but ultimately, they gave me a voucher for the full cost of a replacement on their website. The whole process was quick and easy. A+ on warranty and customer service.
The warranty is awesome. My son has a discontinued Lofoten insulated kids jacket and the main zip failed after three years. They replaced it free of charge ensuring another happy customer.
I have made the switch as well. I live in Boulder, Co where you can walk down one street and try on every major brand in their flagship stores (which I have done) and I keep finding myself back in the Norrona store to make my purchases. I have the pants that matched just this jacket and I believe you can zip out the powder skirt and directly zip into the pants with that same zipper…. Although you should ask a rep on that because I’m not 100%. Super slick design, extremely satisfied with their products.
That is a benefit of Arc'teryx, one of the few brands easy to sell (similar to Canada Goose). Not sure how well Norrona is on re-sell, probably would see easy in Northern Europe but the brand isn't well known yet in North America.
@@TheBarts27 Hi and greetings from the NL too. May I ask what size you recommend/ have? I'm 180 cm and 82kg (reletively athletic build). Want to layer but also not a baggie jacket. Many thanks in advance.
At first i also loved the feature on my Ortovox with the removable thing... but i recognized, i really never use it for other things than skiing. So it always stays in the jacket. Especially cause i don't like the pockets while hiking or biking for some reason. Guess mostly cause i just know it while skiing. Good interesting video. Helps searching for the next freeride/touring jacket. I really got "issues" with the possibilities of the pockets with a lot of jackets i looked at/tried it on. This seems really good with that. Basically everything i need is in the jacket.
And i will start early enough with searching for the next. Cause it wanna feel comfortable in all ways during hundreds of days and for these price ranges everything has to be perfect or very close to perfect for yourself.
A great comprehensive review. I've recently come across Artilect formation jacket which seems to be great jacket with a lot of well thought out set of features. Would love to see a comparison between that jacket and this Norrona. Anyway, keep doing great reviews!
I don't get what has happened to jacket designs and prices lately but it seems like you have to pay $600-$800 to get the features that used to cost maybe $250-$300 ten years ago. I'm shopping to replace a top of the line shell I got from REI in 2011 and the only shells that offer all the goggle pockets, snow skirts and all the bells and whistles are outrageously priced now.
Hi just found your channel and your content is sick! I love how direct your videos are especially the precious one “sabre vs rush” I watched! Regarding the jacket raising up your body when lifting your arms with the beta, this is because it’s more for hiking. If directly compared with the alpha I don’t think you’d have the same drawback :)
Yea I wondered if that were the case. I assumed arcteryx would use a similar shoulder construction for articulation on most there hard shells. Unfortunately there are no Alpha series jackets available near me right now to try out.
Great review, thank you! What size did you get, did you size up? I had a Rush in L but based on your review I have the feeling that I should get a Lofoten in XL size due to the cut.
There is also a stronger version of this jacket. Norrona Lofted Gore-Tex Pro Plus jacket. The hard wearing parts of it are 160D. That is probably the most protective hard shell you can get from any brand
You can get similar and thicker denier gear in the snowmobile lines of varius brands. No point on it tought unless you are actually snowmobiling cause they are heavy. xD
Yes. Those usually have at least a small insulation layer laminated inside so they are not usable in summer and I don't consider them as hard shells.@@artysa.blackwood4261
Ive been trying to figure out the difference but it’s tough to tell. Looks like some small additional features like the material if the pockets and stuff. I don’t see anything different enough to justify the extra cost though.
@@juice132 it’s really hard to tell based on the website. Probably more durable but I don’t see anything justifying the plus version unless it’s a colour you want
Is this still the king of hardshell one year later after your review? Really want to get rid of the Beta AR as I am starting to hate the drop hood. Where did you get yours at 30% off in Canada?
You should be able to get it in this Black Friday. I believe I got this one either at Altitude sports or a local shore near me. The Lofoten is a great jacket or the Norrona Falketind
That was a very well produced and presented video! I was looking at the Alpha/Beta SVs and alternatives and I came across this. I have a question: Do the pit zips go down low enough to *comfortably* enable access to the 'hand warmer' pockets of a mid layer e.g. Cerium?
Thanks! Yes that is a great point I didn't think about. I was able to access the midyear pockets through the pit zips. Mabye someone with really stiff shoulders couldn't but I think most people could.
should compare it to the Sabre SV which just made a return as their most durable ski shell this season. its N100D gore tex pro most rugged all around the jacket like the Alpha SV. about 900 dollars, so similar in price to this jacket. I just received it a few days ago and it exceeded my expectations in terms of quality. Does this brand have RECCO per chance? I saw that the newer hard shells from arcteryx have the RECCO radar thing built in to the jacket in case of emergency scenarios which is extremely important when doing any back country skiing.
RECCO is a bit of a gimmick really. If you're buried in an avalanche then your chances of survival have dropped by 70% after 15 minutes. In that sort of timeframe the only thing that is going to get you out is a transceiver, probe and shovel and your buddy with the same kit. RECCO is really just a reflector to find dead bodies...
@@paultate7037 buried in an avalanche? sooooo, one scenario that its useless? lol, its a useful product to find missing skiers and boarders. not everybody gets trapped in a avalanche...
One of the cool things that i can think of of having those “hand warmer” type gloves is that you don’t stain the cuffs os the jacket with sweat and body oils. The cuffs are always one of the dirtiest parts of a jacket
It doesn’t get much rotation, I was looking for something more ski specific and I like the idea of the second zipper. I also find the finish of the Norrona jacket a bit better. I’m between large and X-Large jacket and will likely get the large as the xl sleeves are too long. I run quite hot so I don’t layer heavy. The alpha sv is a great jacket just don’t need the durability as much as I thought. Honestly if you have tried the other gore varieties the gore Tex pro is superior n my opinion from breathability
I'm looking to get that one as well to try out but haven't found it on sale yet. It look to be the Arc'tyerx Alpha AR/SV equivalent. Meant for mountaineering so only the chest pockets. There is no snow skirt, no side pocket on arm, and only one pocket on the inside. It's also a bit lighter but no much.
The Alpha series is specifically for climbing. So I think it fits a different purpose. It would be difficult to climb with the Lofoten because of how long it is.
I knew a manager of montbelle and Larry Adler, and he always said that Asterisks was the most over rated product of the high end market, all the money went into the style instead of performance and functionality
When said all brands have fixed their weather blocking material. I’d have to disagree because I feel as though Columbias omni tech does not hold up, as well as other waterproof brands like gortex
I've had a columbia omni tech rain jacket and it kept me dry. The problem I had was they were not breathable at all. They are cheap so you get what you pay for to some degree.
There is nothing surprising about the fall of Arcteryx. I’ve already heard from several friends about the decline in quality in their equipment. And the huge number of fakes only makes the situation worse
Some people buy the $1000+ arc alpha SV to walk the dog, then complain about the pockets & arm length, not realising the pockets are designed for access wearing a harness & the arm length is for ice & rock climbing - the jacket fits & functions well when your arms are extended overhead. Buy whatever jacket you can afford for the specific use that's required. You can wear a $2 plastic poncho to walk the dog, or just carry an umbrella ffs, but everyone wants to peacock in their North Face, Canada Goose, Arc'teryx, Norrøna, Peak Performance, Patagonia...
I never seen it in my life. Never heard about the brand. Arcteryx is popular due to it being expensive. I.e. It's not really better than any other jackets. It's just a statement. This another brand will have hard time competing as no one knows you spent 1000 on it.
@@WillFaulkner Imagine if there were laws set in place which made it mandatory for business to allow customers to choose where their purchased product comes from.
All my hardshells have these big hoods. I have never worn a helmet and I never will. So I don't need a hood that will fit over a helmet. I wish manufacturers would make two versions: big hood, and normal hood.
The wrist gaiter frayed then failed over the 1st season of use. Norrona tried to repair it, but ultimately, they gave me a voucher for the full cost of a replacement on their website. The whole process was quick and easy. A+ on warranty and customer service.
Do they require proof of purchase?
Do they require proof of purchase?
The warranty is awesome. My son has a discontinued Lofoten insulated kids jacket and the main zip failed after three years. They replaced it free of charge ensuring another happy customer.
I have made the switch as well. I live in Boulder, Co where you can walk down one street and try on every major brand in their flagship stores (which I have done) and I keep finding myself back in the Norrona store to make my purchases. I have the pants that matched just this jacket and I believe you can zip out the powder skirt and directly zip into the pants with that same zipper…. Although you should ask a rep on that because I’m not 100%. Super slick design, extremely satisfied with their products.
Nice! Any other products from Norrona yo recommend?
Have you tried Strafe in Aspen?
Great review! Actually you will get 7 years warranty if you sign up to Norrøna’s loyalty program. Just a tip 😉
Thanks that is good to know. Plan on getting more of there stuff so I’ll definitely sign up.
No kiddn'
I made the switch over from Arc’teryx too. The Norrona hardshell are definitely superior imo.
Nice, which model did you get?
@@WillFaulkner Went from having a Beta AR and Alpha SV to the Lofoten GTX Pro
I have been eyeing this jacket for a long time. Perhaps I will sell my beta AR and get this. Arcteryx goes really well in the secondary market.
That is a benefit of Arc'teryx, one of the few brands easy to sell (similar to Canada Goose). Not sure how well Norrona is on re-sell, probably would see easy in Northern Europe but the brand isn't well known yet in North America.
I got the Norrona Loften regular Gore-Tex jacket for $400 on sale and it is amazing with amazing quality.
That’s an awesome deal!
I have this jacket and the pants almost 7 years now and it is awesome (for skiing). Greetings from the Netherlands
Greetings ! That’s awesome
@@WillFaulkner By the way...thanks for the good review
@@TheBarts27 Hi and greetings from the NL too. May I ask what size you recommend/ have? I'm 180 cm and 82kg (reletively athletic build). Want to layer but also not a baggie jacket. Many thanks in advance.
@@PeterBelling jacket comes big for its size. I have size XL and i am bigger so i think that you can go for size L.
Many thanks for your swift reply, much appreciated. Was hoping to fit an M, will try. ✌️
At first i also loved the feature on my Ortovox with the removable thing... but i recognized, i really never use it for other things than skiing. So it always stays in the jacket.
Especially cause i don't like the pockets while hiking or biking for some reason. Guess mostly cause i just know it while skiing.
Good interesting video. Helps searching for the next freeride/touring jacket.
I really got "issues" with the possibilities of the pockets with a lot of jackets i looked at/tried it on.
This seems really good with that. Basically everything i need is in the jacket.
And i will start early enough with searching for the next. Cause it wanna feel comfortable in all ways during hundreds of days and for these price ranges everything has to be perfect or very close to perfect for yourself.
A great comprehensive review. I've recently come across Artilect formation jacket which seems to be great jacket with a lot of well thought out set of features. Would love to see a comparison between that jacket and this Norrona. Anyway, keep doing great reviews!
I don't get what has happened to jacket designs and prices lately but it seems like you have to pay $600-$800 to get the features that used to cost maybe $250-$300 ten years ago. I'm shopping to replace a top of the line shell I got from REI in 2011 and the only shells that offer all the goggle pockets, snow skirts and all the bells and whistles are outrageously priced now.
Dope 🤙🏽 the video i have been looking for. Definitely adding that to me gear ⚙️ thanks .
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Thanks !
Mammut Eiger Free Pro HS is on par as well. Have a bunch of Norrona midlayers and a Falketind shell but couldn't resist the deal on the Mammut.
Will definitely check it out
That’s expensive. It’s craziness I am sure that there is other jackets that do the same thing for less money 😊
You get what you pay for, even though it seems expensive it looks to be worth it
@@LesParker-qx9xsno jacket is worth that much. It's just ridiculous
Sure. There is almost no difference between brand name jacket.
Where did you buy it?
Likely overkill
Hi just found your channel and your content is sick! I love how direct your videos are especially the precious one “sabre vs rush” I watched! Regarding the jacket raising up your body when lifting your arms with the beta, this is because it’s more for hiking. If directly compared with the alpha I don’t think you’d have the same drawback :)
Yea I wondered if that were the case. I assumed arcteryx would use a similar shoulder construction for articulation on most there hard shells. Unfortunately there are no Alpha series jackets available near me right now to try out.
nice video ! just a question what do you find about the lofoten anorak version ?
Great review, thank you! What size did you get, did you size up? I had a Rush in L but based on your review I have the feeling that I should get a Lofoten in XL size due to the cut.
Depends how snuff the Rush in a large was. I don't think you'd have an issue with the Lofoten in a size large as well.
There is also a stronger version of this jacket. Norrona Lofted Gore-Tex Pro Plus jacket. The hard wearing parts of it are 160D. That is probably the most protective hard shell you can get from any brand
You can get similar and thicker denier gear in the snowmobile lines of varius brands. No point on it tought unless you are actually snowmobiling cause they are heavy. xD
Yes. Those usually have at least a small insulation layer laminated inside so they are not usable in summer and I don't consider them as hard shells.@@artysa.blackwood4261
Fjällraven Bergtagen & Keb eco shell is the only way forward😅nice review.
It looks rather nice , just need a two way main zipper for perfect. Thx your video
Do you happen to know the difference with between a pro and pro plus version? Many thx!! Martijn
Ive been trying to figure out the difference but it’s tough to tell. Looks like some small additional features like the material if the pockets and stuff. I don’t see anything different enough to justify the extra cost though.
Great reviews and looking forward to watching your upcoming film-"how to wash Gore-tex."
Thanks man!
What is the downside of this jacket compare to the Pro Plus model? I am sure Plus version is more durable and rigid?
@@juice132 it’s really hard to tell based on the website. Probably more durable but I don’t see anything justifying the plus version unless it’s a colour you want
Is this still the king of hardshell one year later after your review? Really want to get rid of the Beta AR as I am starting to hate the drop hood. Where did you get yours at 30% off in Canada?
You should be able to get it in this Black Friday. I believe I got this one either at Altitude sports or a local shore near me. The Lofoten is a great jacket or the Norrona Falketind
That was a very well produced and presented video!
I was looking at the Alpha/Beta SVs and alternatives and I came across this.
I have a question: Do the pit zips go down low enough to *comfortably* enable access to the 'hand warmer' pockets of a mid layer e.g. Cerium?
Thanks! Yes that is a great point I didn't think about. I was able to access the midyear pockets through the pit zips. Mabye someone with really stiff shoulders couldn't but I think most people could.
should compare it to the Sabre SV which just made a return as their most durable ski shell this season. its N100D gore tex pro most rugged all around the jacket like the Alpha SV. about 900 dollars, so similar in price to this jacket. I just received it a few days ago and it exceeded my expectations in terms of quality. Does this brand have RECCO per chance? I saw that the newer hard shells from arcteryx have the RECCO radar thing built in to the jacket in case of emergency scenarios which is extremely important when doing any back country skiing.
RECCO is a bit of a gimmick really. If you're buried in an avalanche then your chances of survival have dropped by 70% after 15 minutes. In that sort of timeframe the only thing that is going to get you out is a transceiver, probe and shovel and your buddy with the same kit. RECCO is really just a reflector to find dead bodies...
@@paultate7037 buried in an avalanche? sooooo, one scenario that its useless? lol, its a useful product to find missing skiers and boarders. not everybody gets trapped in a avalanche...
@@paultate7037 Your chances without it are ZERO.
@@user-um3fx2vk8r you can buy them for like 15 bucks if you really want them and put em in or on your hemit in your bag exe
Excellent review! Liked and subbed.
How’s the warmth on this jacket?
Vary nice review thanks. Any updates on it after using it?
Still loving it. It my go to when skiing
@@WillFaulkner I just ordered one. Do you miss the hand pockets?
@@osceolaseminole5596 not really, I just use the chest pocket for my phone and pant pocket for other stuff
Cant wait for your Rush review
Northface warranty is awesome. It’s lifetime and their warranty department is one of the easiest to deal with.
Great review, shame its the only one on RUclips.
Yea that’s one of the reasons I made it. I plan to do a bunch more on jackets that don’t have any reviews on RUclips .
Hi, curious which store were you able to get this from?
I just bought a used one of Ebay for $200. It looked basically new. I hope it's not a fake.
Smaller arm holes reduce jacket lift when raising arms.
Deadbird went direct to consumer business model, other than REI, no one seems to be able to carry Arc anymore
Yea I have seen this happening.
One of the cool things that i can think of of having those “hand warmer” type gloves is that you don’t stain the cuffs os the jacket with sweat and body oils. The cuffs are always one of the dirtiest parts of a jacket
I think I’m going to pickup this jacket tomorrow and sell my alpha sv
What do you not like about the alpha sv?
It doesn’t get much rotation, I was looking for something more ski specific and I like the idea of the second zipper. I also find the finish of the Norrona jacket a bit better. I’m between large and X-Large jacket and will likely get the large as the xl sleeves are too long. I run quite hot so I don’t layer heavy. The alpha sv is a great jacket just don’t need the durability as much as I thought. Honestly if you have tried the other gore varieties the gore Tex pro is superior n my opinion from breathability
@@reggaecook9435 Yea that makes sense.
@@WillFaulkner joined the Norrona team this morning. Picked up the same jacket and colour :)
@@reggaecook9435 Nice!
Do you know how this compares to the Trollveggen? Is that more like the Beta AR?
I'm looking to get that one as well to try out but haven't found it on sale yet. It look to be the Arc'tyerx Alpha AR/SV equivalent. Meant for mountaineering so only the chest pockets. There is no snow skirt, no side pocket on arm, and only one pocket on the inside. It's also a bit lighter but no much.
Trollveggen is more of a climbing jacket, this is a ski/splitboard touring jacket :)
Bought this for day to day use living in rainy vancouver, overkill? 🤔
$2 rain poncho has better breathability, waterproofing, & killer price point.
20-30% less doesn't looks like a KILLER, more like an alternative.
It's on my list but I spent $10k on a sportbike and that hobby has to come first. Just don't see myself on the slopes enough
Lack of hand warming pockets makes it a no go for many.
Shouldnt it be compared with alpha SV？ beta does provide side pockets but chest pockets
The Alpha series is specifically for climbing. So I think it fits a different purpose. It would be difficult to climb with the Lofoten because of how long it is.
Norrøna 💪🏻
Facts
nice stuff
Thanks bro !
Very nice
how tall are you and what size is it?
6'1, I got a size large
I knew a manager of montbelle and Larry Adler, and he always said that Asterisks was the most over rated product of the high end market, all the money went into the style instead of performance and functionality
When said all brands have fixed their weather blocking material. I’d have to disagree because I feel as though Columbias omni tech does not hold up, as well as other waterproof brands like gortex
I've had a columbia omni tech rain jacket and it kept me dry. The problem I had was they were not breathable at all. They are cheap so you get what you pay for to some degree.
If you want to try something different try ortovox 3l deep shell
Team Patagonia Triolet 🏴☠️
Plan on reviewing that soon as well
@@WillFaulkner I can't believe how tough it is for $400.. it's definitely punching with your super high end one here.
There is nothing surprising about the fall of Arcteryx. I’ve already heard from several friends about the decline in quality in their equipment. And the huge number of fakes only makes the situation worse
Just got one to day in Chamonix thay tell me 7 year warranty
Some people buy the $1000+ arc alpha SV to walk the dog, then complain about the pockets & arm length, not realising the pockets are designed for access wearing a harness & the arm length is for ice & rock climbing - the jacket fits & functions well when your arms are extended overhead. Buy whatever jacket you can afford for the specific use that's required. You can wear a $2 plastic poncho to walk the dog, or just carry an umbrella ffs, but everyone wants to peacock in their North Face, Canada Goose, Arc'teryx, Norrøna, Peak Performance, Patagonia...
If you register as a member the warranty is 7 years
I bought a marmot gortex single ply fir $30 and the seam tape is coming off. So i duct taped it. 🤣🤣🤣
I like it
@@WillFaulkner sometime 8 will get a new shell.
Zero tall sizes😭
Simply enormous high quality alternatives for 1/3 of the cost ….price is simply unrealistic and excessive
Dude says dad bod as he also says he wears a smedium 😂
Bruh its the same price 😂
I never seen it in my life. Never heard about the brand.
Arcteryx is popular due to it being expensive. I.e. It's not really better than any other jackets. It's just a statement. This another brand will have hard time competing as no one knows you spent 1000 on it.
Same, over priced exploitive "made in china" crap
What do you recommend as an alternative?
@@WillFaulkner Imagine if there were laws set in place which made it mandatory for business to allow customers to choose where their purchased product comes from.
@@WillFaulkner'' Burton ''Of Course ! Same quality made in China Gore-Tex but cheaper ! Burton made in China is batter deal !
@@ivanronin8209 ok
@@WillFaulknerpretty much any brand name. North face, mountain hardwear, Patagonia etc. Heck kalias Chinese brand is great.
Weak zippers
Too similar for me to make a change from Arc’teryx
All my hardshells have these big hoods. I have never worn a helmet and I never will. So I don't need a hood that will fit over a helmet. I wish manufacturers would make two versions: big hood, and normal hood.
Yea I agree. Arc'teryx had the Zeta line of jackets which had smaller hoods, but I'm not sure if they sell them anymore.